Absolute love the look of these wheels I went to put them on my winspace bike today was about to ride but I forgot to charge my ltwoo group so I had to take a tarmac sl8 expert, But very very very soon I am excited for these wheels... are you excited? do you think winspace is drifting to far out of there lane by making this more expensive items, or do you like the innovative approach of going after the whole industry and putting out a new piece of equipment for every category??
I'd say that Farsport currently is more attractive. $1k for a 1170g 45mm deep carbon wheel with carbon spokes. I feel like 1 piece carbon fiber is a potentially expensive repair. Especially because there is no life-long warranty with Hyper
There are also Corima with their "MCC EVO" (🥰🥰) and Mavic with their "COSMIC ULTIMATE" doing full carbon road wheels (i'm French and proud of our engineering 😅🤣)
My bike cost less than the wheels, but your videos are great and you should be the East Coast USA correspondent for the Chris Miller show.... Keep going 🎉
aint gonna lie, thats how the whole world is right now, currecnt economics, cost of living going up, intrest rates through the roof, I am in the same boat to be honest, you just see bike stuff but I got similar stuff going on too
You can get a bike for the cost of these wheels, unbelievable. Cheapest carbon wheels? In what world is a set of wheels worth this much,we have all lost touch. 😂
Hi GC, though I can’t afford these wheels, I always love to see new products coming onto the market to give consumers more choices. For the nay sayers out there, most of them don’t even ride a bike and just seeking attention, so just ignore them.
HA wel thank you for this, I just show products and tell people the product is good or not, it is there choice at the ned of the day to buy it or not lol
That wave finish is part of the brand identity by now, it is easy to recognize it has LUN/Winspace, so maintaining it through all their wheels is just the smartest thing they can do tbh
Yes, they're all about minimal rim finishing. I don't like matte black-coated carbon rims, they look cliché. Carbon black doesn't look bad, especially if you use black as an accent colour.
yea I know this is for sure there calling card, but i have customers who refuse to buy it for that look, but I mean hey, it is the companys chocie, I did sell a good amount of the black edition hyper 65 when they came out back in the day
I quite agree with you, I'm going to put this budget into wheels and they will be Roval Rapid CLX. we have experienced Hyper and when it comes to resale people don't like them, they want brands like dt swiss, Enve, Roval etc. Here we are on a premium price with a wheel which does not have a premium look, at this price we want an impeccable finish, a worked writing which stands out from the rest of the production but which remains sober and elegant. there it's a bit "too much" even if the technology is advanced. I don't find it attractive and I would never spend €2500 on these wheels.
yea the wheels are really stiff I love this version I klnow they are a premium price tag but these wheels for the money are some of th ebest performing wheels on the market
No stress, I used Mavic Cosmic Carbon SLR +6 years without failure or issues. .bearings replacements and riding all seasons...marketing is the Dark Side always
they look amazing just installed them going on a ride friday with them I am very excited but I know people riding them now who are loving them in replace of there roval clx rapide
For road use the Syncros Capitol 1.0 SL is fine as the chances of breaking a spoke is really low. For their MTB monocoque wheelset the Silverton is more risky but then again it should be used as a race day only wheelset and yes it's target customer is the dentist
this is true, we get them bad here in between condos coming in from the east coast of the beach we are right against the water, we do not have hills but we got wind
I think they are great - Mega D45 are again half of the price of western offerings with even better reparability. If I was on the market for the full carbon wheelset, I would buy them
I rode them today and I am very impressed with how they responded to the ride, everything I put down on them they reacted how I wanted them too, yes they are stiff but paired with my 30c tire and tpu tube the bike was amaingf
I think if you “need” wheels of this level and up someone should be giving you them as part of a sponsorship. UCI says that all parts raced have to be available to the public so they are. I wonder if they intend for low miles given the “race day” mention rather than as a daily driver.
i have to say its not a bad idea, its similar to the one piece without the down sides. engineering wise anything can be made to last a long time. but since these are gen 1's lets see what happens in due time
Good to see companies thinking about balancing maximal performance with practical versatility. Equipment damage is part of the game in competitive cycling. I remeber racing on early one-piece carbon wheels back in the '90's and having to change out an entire wheel when only one part sustained damage. I had sponsorhip at the time, so it cost me nothing to do so. But, if I was personally paying for all my gear, I'd think twice about such trade-offs.
I feel like $2600 is steep for a relatively unknown chinese wheel. I get it, cutting edge spoke setup, meanwhile everyone shrieks about what ENVE/Zipp offer being too expensive. Also, for the price, I’d like to see wider internal rim width and deeper section options. On looks, I agree, I’d rather them be black or something than have the same look as the wheel they sell for half the price.
U been living under a rock? Its not an unknown chinese wheel. Winspace has been making frames and wheelsets for bigger western brands for 15+ years. They've sold hundreds of thousands of HYPER over the last few years. I see them on every bunch ride and race event. They are the dominant wheel brand, arguably the largest by sales volume in the world currently
@@pigupigu If you turn up to a bike shop and ask Joe Nobody if they’ve ever heard of Lun wheels, they’re not going to know. I’m not saying they’re a shit brand, just that they aren’t a big recognized brand. Sorry if I’ve offended you and your youtube cycling bias lol
This is exactly my sentiment as soon as I got the price from the intro. It'll be a hard sell to go for a Winspace wheel when it's more expensive than a Zipp 404!
I don't see any benefit of them over the Hypers. There is a 50 gram difference, harder to maintain and twice the price. I also think there would be a big penalty in resale value. JMO BTW Love your videos, keep them coming and I would love to see your thoughts of the new Defy if you can find one!
I don't think he mentioned the stiffness.... I suspect due to the construction that they are even more laterally stiff than the Hypers. I don't think it's just about the weight.
When China cycling checked out these wheels at a show they were said to be around 1800 bucks, at 2600 they are a bit to pricey for me... besides I love my R45 Hypers.
I know it seems like they are pricing themselves more and more, when they asked me i said try to get it under the 2k target and get a 1 in front to make it more enticing
For a wheelset with carbon spokes and hub flanges, and at that pricepoint for DTC, these are pretty heavy. For an additional 50 grams you could get standard spokes and hubs that will be a lot easier to live with and a more comfortable ride quality, all under $1500
yea that was the push back with the wheels, that it was not that much crazier but also the lightweight wheels they are competing against are not crazy light either, these are just very stiff laterally and responded very well too snappy power
I would be curious to hear if that stiffness translated to a faster ride for you, or if it results in a bit more fatigue by transferring more road vibration and chatter.@@GCPerformance18
Would totally love to see a hyper with some sapim metal spokes for sale. Ran lun 30mm for two plus years without any issues and liked the less stiffness for long rides. Biggest reason for not going hypers. Kudos on them using a rachet system
Good idea, I like the engineering and price point. However, it's not worth it to me. The benefit is so marginal it might be non existent and there are some serious downsides to having a 1-piece wheel. Winspace did a great job minimizing those downsides though.
Routte wheelsets ftw: none of the issues of carbon spokes or ceramic bearings, great stiffness and value. Obviously not the bling of these beautiful wheels.
As someone with 2 year old Winspace Hyper 45s I don't think many people are gonna jump on Winspace wheels for $2600. Wild. I understand you are sponsored/receive this stuff to review like many other youtube channels but Winspace is majorly straying from the reason that made them so popular.
I have the SCOM wheels and a set of Enve 4.5 and I must say that I prefer to ride with the Scom-set. The sound👍 Yeah, pro teams in southeast Asia use them and if they are good enough for them they are fine for me as well.
With this price, they should have made the inner rim shape like the Princeton or Zipp NSW. On another note, the reason I have a set of Lun is bc I couldn't afford a set of Enve, I don't foreseen myself getting this just to get a 1/2 price of the Madfiber
Watched this twice. Hopefully this will help you to your Ferrari goals. AFAIK, the choice to manufacture a single piece carbon wheel had less to do with performance characteristics and more to do with carbon fibre manufacturing limitations at the time, constraining them to using bonded spokes. A choice they decided to stick with even after the release of threaded carbon spokes. If one piece carbon wheels provide superior power transfer that's great, but I think that is more of a marketing afterthought in response to companies like Winspace and Elitewheels releasing high performance threaded carbon spoke wheels for a quarter of the price.
To be honest, there nice wheels But sometimes I sincerely think why wouldn’t it not be better to ride with a what heavier bike and less aerodynamic! Because that would make you far more stronger and faster! And only for the race you can benefit from a better bike 🚴
Yea they are lighter, bigger internal rim width and cheaper. Peak torque did a review of them and they had a huge fault in them! They look like they have sorted it now
These are very nice wheels indeed, but Campagnolo Bora Ultra WTO 45 wheels are about same price, only 50 grams heavier, they have better hubs with ceramic cup-and-cone bearings, internal spoke nipples and no tubeless tape required. If these Lun wheels are marketed as race-day wheels, it's hard to justify these over the Bora Ultra's at this price point.
What part of FL u in ? I have a CANYON Aero fitted with DT Swiss 1500 plus grams wheel and wanted to get some lighter wheels but idk if I’m willing to flush 2600 bucks to gain 1/2 pound on my bike weigh in general .. I think I’ll go tubeless better instead Wait .. can I save 10% on HYPER 3 D45 Disc Brake Wheelset with your code ? Or I’m misunderstanding.. I can do this less expensive if I can save an extra 10%… please advise.
Not feeling the tiger shark pattern on the rims. Gloss black with gold emblems would look good but change font on the name or smaller font’s curved around the rim.
Chinese brand,1389 grams for 45mm depth rim, for 2600 USD. Not impressive. I am living in China, I have a pair of 45mm depth wheelset, DT180EXP hub, Super CX Spoke, Chinese light weight carbon rim, it weights 1280 grams, and It cost 1400 USD.
yea thats the question is, are they stepping out of there boundaries of what they are and is this too much, I rode them this morning and they felt amazing and light
Interesting story there about Mad Fiber, which was a Seattle-based company. If it was a Chinese company, some racist jerks would have claimed Chinese can't do cutting edge or innovate, like they did in response to the isolated QA issue with those new Craft Racing Works wheels.
yea that is true but those mad fiber wheels were out long time ago, like before cycling youtube was big, before amazon was only on kindles and stuff like that, this was all just like riders ocming into shops sharing there stories on items
@@GCPerformance18 Regardless, as you said, those Mad Fider wheels were "ahead of its time", which means Mad Fiber were trying to innovate, doing cutting edge. But they ran into failures, until, as you mentioned, some other company perfected it. So, the point is that failures while trying to innovate happens, regardless of the country. It is part of the innovation process.
the fact we don't know how these wheels are in terms of longevity is a red flag and a turn off. Safer to buy from reputable brands like cadex. I just ordered lun but canceled because of this reason
I want to see GP 5000 S TR 28mm with Vittoria inserts and silca sealant - put it on with your hands. Aint nobody going to call you Daddy after that attempt 😅
I'm still waiting when someone make a review REALLY AFFORDABLE wheels from Lun. There is a new model called Routte and it's very silent about it in the net. Everybody has to review Hyper or Mega wheels. Nobody makes videos about lower end wheels.
@@GCPerformance18 blue ones are Routte SE. Regular Routte are raw carbon. I've seen Charles made video about older model Road and it wasn't very detailed. Need to check if he has something new.
rode it today and very impressed i have more videos but I took out the insta 350 with it today so making a video with me riding them, but the wheels are super repsonsive and very fast to get up to speed
These are way overpriced. If they came in super light then many could justify the price. Personally I think Lun has lost who their identity. There wheels are now just as expensive as western brands. Never brought a pair and will never because evertime I check their site the prices kee going up
THEY ARE LITERALLY VERY EASY TO DO SO, THERE IS A VIDEO TO SHOW HOW TO DO, trhere is no difference from an internal spoke nipple on a high end wheel, but they have a tutorial on how it works on youtube and after that any mechanic canm be able to do it because it is the same concept
By the way, I am opening a bike shop across the street from yours with everyday 50% sale on services, parts, bikes, wheels etc just to get WinSpace wheel for free like you do! 😂😂😂😂😂
I know this will probably not be received well, because that is how society is, but you say things similar to, “…we will talk about that in a minute…” way too much. You probably said that six times or more. Then the “let’s get into it” after already discussing details. Not saying making these videos is easy, but I guarantee the presentation would be improved without these things.
After I bought their grapids for 800 bucks and them being the worst chinese wheel set I've bought for the money, I haven't been hyped on winspace. They're not terrible but they're not any better than elites SLT line that cost half as much and the hubs that come with elite wheels have been better. I even got a better set for 300 for my xc bike from just an unbranded eBay seller.
paired with my 30c tires I loved them today the ride was so nice i didnt want it to end, the felt really responsive and reacted to everything I put down, a very very nice wheel for the first ride
no IM telling you I rode these today and they feel top tier veru stiff but super easy to get rolling and hold speed, they are very reactive to whatever you put down at them
@@GCPerformance18 , well I have owned a pair of 40/50mm Hunt Wheels for about 1 year and my experience with them is that they presented ABSOLUTELY NO issues so far. I ride a DISK VERSION so delamination will never occur. Maybe a rim break does. NOT mine.... They kept the trueness so far no issues. They are pretty fast and EXCELLENT BANG FOR YOUR BUCK... I paid 800 dollars for the pair + 100 dollar for shipping and taxes... Big BANG for my poor bucks... WinSpace cost 1200 dollars for the same specification... I am not saying that it does not worth paying US$ 400 dollars more for winspace, but for me it does not... The only thing I cound complain about Hunt Wheels is that THEY ARE VERY LOUD (Extremely) and I don't like that noise despite I have already got used to it... ON THE OTHER HAND, you CAN (not Ican wheels, but you Grant) give me those WinSpace for free (I pay the shipping) and I would become your best FAN EVER! LOL LOL LOL LOL I would say here in Massachusetts that you are the best ever bike Mechanic and that your TH-cam show is the best ever so far...and if somebody dares to say anything negative about your videos aaahhhhhhhh this dude would get a big problem with me LOL LOL ( by the way, I ran pretty fast...)... THINK ABOUT!!!!
Absolute love the look of these wheels I went to put them on my winspace bike today was about to ride but I forgot to charge my ltwoo group so I had to take a tarmac sl8 expert, But very very very soon I am excited for these wheels...
are you excited? do you think winspace is drifting to far out of there lane by making this more expensive items, or do you like the innovative approach of going after the whole industry and putting out a new piece of equipment for every category??
This guy cannot make a comment and not mention Specialized in some way... keep eating that salad.
I'd say that Farsport currently is more attractive. $1k for a 1170g 45mm deep carbon wheel with carbon spokes.
I feel like 1 piece carbon fiber is a potentially expensive repair. Especially because there is no life-long warranty with Hyper
Will you pick this or the Craft Racing wheel?
@@B_KFC_Leg Craft has some good dimensions as well. But I prefer the lower price and better brand recognition of Farsport at the end
There are also Corima with their "MCC EVO" (🥰🥰) and Mavic with their "COSMIC ULTIMATE" doing full carbon road wheels (i'm French and proud of our engineering 😅🤣)
My bike cost less than the wheels, but your videos are great and you should be the East Coast USA correspondent for the Chris Miller show....
Keep going 🎉
hahahahha thank you very much I love those guys over there
@@GCPerformance18 from the west coast LA CA here LOL 🤣
+1 for being Hooked. The halo spoke arrangement seems like a really great idea. Looking forward to a ride review of these.
To be honest, i could care less. Im poor
aint gonna lie, thats how the whole world is right now, currecnt economics, cost of living going up, intrest rates through the roof, I am in the same boat to be honest, you just see bike stuff but I got similar stuff going on too
@@GCPerformance18trump is coming
Also ppl should have a good bit of pocket money rn cause Biden inflated the market hella
@@GCPerformance18 lies. You're a top level TH-camr raking in millions of dollars 😜
Ali express is my go to as well😂😂
You can get a bike for the cost of these wheels, unbelievable. Cheapest carbon wheels? In what world is a set of wheels worth this much,we have all lost touch. 😂
There’s obviously no recession down in Florida given the reported large market for $8,000 wheel sets there.
yea lightweight wheels are ran by the 1% over here, I have no idea how people can buy them but man I hope to be in there shoes one day
Great looking wheelset. I like the minimal logo on the wheels. Maybe just bump up the internal width by a couple of millimeters.
@5:58 Ok, this part had me dying. The finger pointing to a code that was intentionally never edited in combined with the math.
hahahhahah
Hi GC, though I can’t afford these wheels, I always love to see new products coming onto the market to give consumers more choices. For the nay sayers out there, most of them don’t even ride a bike and just seeking attention, so just ignore them.
HA wel thank you for this, I just show products and tell people the product is good or not, it is there choice at the ned of the day to buy it or not lol
That wave finish is part of the brand identity by now, it is easy to recognize it has LUN/Winspace, so maintaining it through all their wheels is just the smartest thing they can do tbh
Yes, they're all about minimal rim finishing. I don't like matte black-coated carbon rims, they look cliché. Carbon black doesn't look bad, especially if you use black as an accent colour.
yea I know this is for sure there calling card, but i have customers who refuse to buy it for that look, but I mean hey, it is the companys chocie, I did sell a good amount of the black edition hyper 65 when they came out back in the day
hope they listen to your feedback and give more options to end consumers
@@GCPerformance18
I quite agree with you, I'm going to put this budget into wheels and they will be Roval Rapid CLX. we have experienced Hyper and when it comes to resale people don't like them, they want brands like dt swiss, Enve, Roval etc.
Here we are on a premium price with a wheel which does not have a premium look, at this price we want an impeccable finish, a worked writing which stands out from the rest of the production but which remains sober and elegant. there it's a bit "too much" even if the technology is advanced. I don't find it attractive and I would never spend €2500 on these wheels.
I see Lun wheels video, I click view, like and subscribe. Loving my lun wheels! Easily up there with the best wheel brand that I couldn’t afford.
yea the wheels are really stiff I love this version I klnow they are a premium price tag but these wheels for the money are some of th ebest performing wheels on the market
I like my d45s, i also like that they came with extra spokes.
No stress, I used Mavic Cosmic Carbon SLR +6 years without failure or issues. .bearings replacements and riding all seasons...marketing is the Dark Side always
I was just looking for this review. Dope!
they look amazing just installed them going on a ride friday with them I am very excited but I know people riding them now who are loving them in replace of there roval clx rapide
I guess the Elitewheels Drive 50D is impossible to beat $/g.
So wait, with your discount instead of paying $2600 it's only $260? Sign me up for 2 sets!! 😂😂😂
For road use the Syncros Capitol 1.0 SL is fine as the chances of breaking a spoke is really low.
For their MTB monocoque wheelset the Silverton is more risky but then again it should be used as a race day only wheelset and yes it's target customer is the dentist
I brought some elitewheels edge 50 of AliExpress.
50mm rim depth front and back, ratchet hub, 1,350g… for 600USD
I got the edge 40s. I'm thinking of getting the 65's. How are the 50's with crosswinds
How are they - they look really appealing. How satisfied are you with the buy? 😀
Crosswinds don't exist in wind tunnels....everywhere else they exist....
this is true, we get them bad here in between condos coming in from the east coast of the beach we are right against the water, we do not have hills but we got wind
I think they are great - Mega D45 are again half of the price of western offerings with even better reparability. If I was on the market for the full carbon wheelset, I would buy them
I rode them today and I am very impressed with how they responded to the ride, everything I put down on them they reacted how I wanted them too, yes they are stiff but paired with my 30c tire and tpu tube the bike was amaingf
I think if you “need” wheels of this level and up someone should be giving you them as part of a sponsorship. UCI says that all parts raced have to be available to the public so they are.
I wonder if they intend for low miles given the “race day” mention rather than as a daily driver.
they are avaible to public, but I mean I think these wheels can handle daily driving all day
i have to say its not a bad idea, its similar to the one piece without the down sides. engineering wise anything can be made to last a long time. but since these are gen 1's lets see what happens in due time
Good to see companies thinking about balancing maximal performance with practical versatility. Equipment damage is part of the game in competitive cycling. I remeber racing on early one-piece carbon wheels back in the '90's and having to change out an entire wheel when only one part sustained damage. I had sponsorhip at the time, so it cost me nothing to do so. But, if I was personally paying for all my gear, I'd think twice about such trade-offs.
I'll wait for the peak torque review like with the Craft debacle
I feel like $2600 is steep for a relatively unknown chinese wheel. I get it, cutting edge spoke setup, meanwhile everyone shrieks about what ENVE/Zipp offer being too expensive. Also, for the price, I’d like to see wider internal rim width and deeper section options. On looks, I agree, I’d rather them be black or something than have the same look as the wheel they sell for half the price.
U been living under a rock?
Its not an unknown chinese wheel. Winspace has been making frames and wheelsets for bigger western brands for 15+ years. They've sold hundreds of thousands of HYPER over the last few years. I see them on every bunch ride and race event. They are the dominant wheel brand, arguably the largest by sales volume in the world currently
@@pigupigu If you turn up to a bike shop and ask Joe Nobody if they’ve ever heard of Lun wheels, they’re not going to know. I’m not saying they’re a shit brand, just that they aren’t a big recognized brand.
Sorry if I’ve offended you and your youtube cycling bias lol
This is exactly my sentiment as soon as I got the price from the intro. It'll be a hard sell to go for a Winspace wheel when it's more expensive than a Zipp 404!
Main question is would you buy them over a roval wheel? If not don’t bother
for performacne a lot yes, key is longevity, roval just has such a great warranty and crash replacement program set up
I don't see any benefit of them over the Hypers. There is a 50 gram difference, harder to maintain and twice the price. I also think there would be a big penalty in resale value. JMO BTW Love your videos, keep them coming and I would love to see your thoughts of the new Defy if you can find one!
Absolut my thought..they look great and for sure they are. But i do not think they are worth the price over the hyper
I don't think he mentioned the stiffness.... I suspect due to the construction that they are even more laterally stiff than the Hypers. I don't think it's just about the weight.
Waiting for new TCR will put them on it ! 🔥👌
I want to see a new tcr too I think it would be sick
When China cycling checked out these wheels at a show they were said to be around 1800 bucks, at 2600 they are a bit to pricey for me... besides I love my R45 Hypers.
I know it seems like they are pricing themselves more and more, when they asked me i said try to get it under the 2k target and get a 1 in front to make it more enticing
@@GCPerformance18 They're killing any reputation they built by doing these crazy prices. Good riddance winspace!
@@DanTuberAgreed
For a wheelset with carbon spokes and hub flanges, and at that pricepoint for DTC, these are pretty heavy. For an additional 50 grams you could get standard spokes and hubs that will be a lot easier to live with and a more comfortable ride quality, all under $1500
yea that was the push back with the wheels, that it was not that much crazier but also the lightweight wheels they are competing against are not crazy light either, these are just very stiff laterally and responded very well too snappy power
I would be curious to hear if that stiffness translated to a faster ride for you, or if it results in a bit more fatigue by transferring more road vibration and chatter.@@GCPerformance18
Would totally love to see a hyper with some sapim metal spokes for sale. Ran lun 30mm for two plus years without any issues and liked the less stiffness for long rides. Biggest reason for not going hypers.
Kudos on them using a rachet system
Hyper SE are steel spoke version
Good idea, I like the engineering and price point. However, it's not worth it to me. The benefit is so marginal it might be non existent and there are some serious downsides to having a 1-piece wheel. Winspace did a great job minimizing those downsides though.
Those screws that hold the spokes at the flange. Are those ti? If allu, or steel, it's going to end bad.
The nipples are usually alloy, which is the case with HYPER and HYPER 2023.
Campag Bora WTO type finish would be 🔥
thats what I am saying it would be nice
Routte wheelsets ftw: none of the issues of carbon spokes or ceramic bearings, great stiffness and value. Obviously not the bling of these beautiful wheels.
As someone with 2 year old Winspace Hyper 45s I don't think many people are gonna jump on Winspace wheels for $2600. Wild. I understand you are sponsored/receive this stuff to review like many other youtube channels but Winspace is majorly straying from the reason that made them so popular.
By sponsoring so many TH-camrs/spending so much on marketing, the customer ends up paying for that and the prices skyrocket.
Riding Scom Ultra, love them.
really??? I have not had scoms on my bike in a long time but I heard they are doing well over in china they are making a strong name for themselves
I have the SCOM wheels and a set of Enve 4.5 and I must say that I prefer to ride with the Scom-set. The sound👍
Yeah, pro teams in southeast Asia use them and if they are good enough for them they are fine for me as well.
But the issue is theyre not that light though. Its a "good" attempt but definitely not game breaking. Perhaps they will do better in the future.
With this price, they should have made the inner rim shape like the Princeton or Zipp NSW. On another note, the reason I have a set of Lun is bc I couldn't afford a set of Enve, I don't foreseen myself getting this just to get a 1/2 price of the Madfiber
Watched this twice. Hopefully this will help you to your Ferrari goals.
AFAIK, the choice to manufacture a single piece carbon wheel had less to do with performance characteristics and more to do with carbon fibre manufacturing limitations at the time, constraining them to using bonded spokes. A choice they decided to stick with even after the release of threaded carbon spokes.
If one piece carbon wheels provide superior power transfer that's great, but I think that is more of a marketing afterthought in response to companies like Winspace and Elitewheels releasing high performance threaded carbon spoke wheels for a quarter of the price.
They look fabulously Stunning
To be honest, there nice wheels But sometimes I sincerely think why wouldn’t it not be better to ride with a what heavier bike and less aerodynamic! Because that would make you far more stronger and faster! And only for the race you can benefit from a better bike 🚴
I would like to see the comparison between this wheel and crw 5055 would be interesting with 1000$ price tag difference
I cant wait to ride them lol
Yea they are lighter, bigger internal rim width and cheaper. Peak torque did a review of them and they had a huge fault in them! They look like they have sorted it now
These are very nice wheels indeed, but Campagnolo Bora Ultra WTO 45 wheels are about same price, only 50 grams heavier, they have better hubs with ceramic cup-and-cone bearings, internal spoke nipples and no tubeless tape required. If these Lun wheels are marketed as race-day wheels, it's hard to justify these over the Bora Ultra's at this price point.
Exactly! 50grams can easily be the difference between a good or bad dump prior to riding. 🤣🤣
GC what’s your win space coupon code?
I can’t remember what video it was in
glad you found it
I wonder what kind of market i.e. how many they will sell throughout the world?
we will have to see, it is hard to poush a china brand for a premium price so we have to see how well they do
Biggest Take-away from this video is about the patent from DT-Swiss running out.
It’s already out. That’s why they made the exp ratchet now.
The Carbon Racing Works wheels intrigue me more than these!
the craft racing works, they are nice wheels still my faveorite for right now
dude if i step up in your store ill pass out in 10s
lmao why??
@@GCPerformance18 so many neat things there about bikes ! its like a dream house
I need a set in boost 148/110 for my xc bike. 25-30mm id.
lmfao
Please review the mavic cosmic ultimate 45 disc. Also with carbon spokes
What part of FL u in ? I have a CANYON Aero fitted with DT Swiss 1500 plus grams wheel and wanted to get some lighter wheels but idk if I’m willing to flush 2600 bucks to gain 1/2 pound on my bike weigh in general .. I think I’ll go tubeless better instead
Wait .. can I save 10% on HYPER 3 D45 Disc Brake Wheelset with your code ? Or I’m misunderstanding.. I can do this less expensive if I can save an extra 10%… please advise.
send me an email, gcperformanceyt@gmail.com
I can tell you more and also where we located
Not feeling the tiger shark pattern on the rims. Gloss black with gold emblems would look good but change font on the name or smaller font’s curved around the rim.
@TEL.EGRAM-ME-YTGCperformance yo
I use to own Madfiber wheels and they were amazing, but damn......they were race day only wheels and maybe not even that.
Chinese brand,1389 grams for 45mm depth rim, for 2600 USD. Not impressive.
I am living in China, I have a pair of 45mm depth wheelset, DT180EXP hub, Super CX Spoke, Chinese light weight carbon rim, it weights 1280 grams, and It cost 1400 USD.
Where did you get them?!
2500$ is already Princeton territory and much as I like my Hypers I’d never spend that much on Winspace wheels.
yea thats the question is, are they stepping out of there boundaries of what they are and is this too much, I rode them this morning and they felt amazing and light
Interesting story there about Mad Fiber, which was a Seattle-based company. If it was a Chinese company, some racist jerks would have claimed Chinese can't do cutting edge or innovate, like they did in response to the isolated QA issue with those new Craft Racing Works wheels.
yea that is true but those mad fiber wheels were out long time ago, like before cycling youtube was big, before amazon was only on kindles and stuff like that, this was all just like riders ocming into shops sharing there stories on items
@@GCPerformance18 Regardless, as you said, those Mad Fider wheels were "ahead of its time", which means Mad Fiber were trying to innovate, doing cutting edge. But they ran into failures, until, as you mentioned, some other company perfected it. So, the point is that failures while trying to innovate happens, regardless of the country. It is part of the innovation process.
So if a spoke on these break, i have to replace the whole wheel?
Nope you don’t. These have halo spokes so you just replace the one side of the wheel
2600$... they should stay true to their customer base. 1600$ like crw would be better
26 hundred? not $26? oof. Ill stick with my allow wheels, at 205lbs Im too fat for carbon to make a difference..
You have a choice:
A) Buy a Ferrari
B) Keep paying for your amazing editor
hahahaha unfortubanlty I am a battered man I need my editor as much as I don't
the fact we don't know how these wheels are in terms of longevity is a red flag and a turn off. Safer to buy from reputable brands like cadex. I just ordered lun but canceled because of this reason
I, like you, don't think this price is out of line for a premium wheel set.
yes, I think they are trying for a different consumer here, and there are a ton of consumers out there already paying for that premium price
So glad I quit the weight weenie habit for good. It was nothing more than a gram dropping exercise on my wallet.
I want to see GP 5000 S TR 28mm with Vittoria inserts and silca sealant - put it on with your hands. Aint nobody going to call you Daddy after that attempt 😅
Ehhh. How many watts do those spokes save at 40kph?
As expensive as the Farsports Evo and other more famous brands… CRW WORKS definitely on par for almost $1000 less
These are nice!
Full carbon fiber wheels are a bad idea.
I'm still waiting when someone make a review REALLY AFFORDABLE wheels from Lun. There is a new model called Routte and it's very silent about it in the net. Everybody has to review Hyper or Mega wheels. Nobody makes videos about lower end wheels.
If you looking for cheap good quality wheels get Elitewheels d40/d50/d60 or hyper d45/67 exceptional wheels
@@marcinstyle85 You mentioned good wheel sets but they're all still above 1k USD. Lun doesn't send anyone there lower tier wheels for test
your talking aboutt the blue ones? I think charles outimet did a video on the chepaer modela long time ago they look really good
@@GCPerformance18 blue ones are Routte SE. Regular Routte are raw carbon. I've seen Charles made video about older model Road and it wasn't very detailed. Need to check if he has something new.
Cycling is becoming too expensive for me 🥺
“Don’t look at that spot”
Me: 👀
Ride review wnd impresions required
rode it today and very impressed i have more videos but I took out the insta 350 with it today so making a video with me riding them, but the wheels are super repsonsive and very fast to get up to speed
US$2600! Yeah..........nah.
Those wheels are definitely worth it for the dummy that hasn't learned the lesson yet.
Must come with a *mega pint* or I won't buy it😂
Reinvented the wheel??☸
lit asf
overpriced
for a wheel set it is high, for what they are aiming to be and competing against, they are the cheapest in there category
These are way overpriced. If they came in super light then many could justify the price. Personally I think Lun has lost who their identity. There wheels are now just as expensive as western brands. Never brought a pair and will never because evertime I check their site the prices kee going up
These videos make me want to go buy myself a set of deep section* pizzas.
hahahaha I had a deep dish pizza for dinner that night
Can anyone tell me about the wheels? I just watched a hot sauce stain for 25 minutes.
hahahha I TOLD YOU NOT TOO LOOK THERE
In what way are these wheels one piece?
I think he just loves saying "one piece wheels" even though they're obviously 4 piece
they are meant to replicate the design and benefit of a one piece wheel, but be serviceable of a normal spoke wheel
I'll pass and stick to my $475 steel spoke Elite wheels
another great option
I got the hyper wheels and regretted it. One of the wheels needs trueing and none of the lbs was able to fix it. Stay away from Chinese wheels.
THEY ARE LITERALLY VERY EASY TO DO SO, THERE IS A VIDEO TO SHOW HOW TO DO, trhere is no difference from an internal spoke nipple on a high end wheel, but they have a tutorial on how it works on youtube and after that any mechanic canm be able to do it because it is the same concept
You do not generalise Chinese wheels like this, almost all of them do not have the same structure as Winspace HYPERs.
5:56 THANK YOU for the 90% off discount code! 🤣
hahahahha I meant 260 off lol
More expensive than a Zipp 404? That should be a tough sell for a Chinese wheel vs Zipp!
the wheels are amazing, and zipp 404 right now are only hookless I would not take that wheel over this wheel
Zipp 404 are nothing special ,also they are hookless , winspace all day any day
By the way, I am opening a bike shop across the street from yours with everyday 50% sale on services, parts, bikes, wheels etc just to get WinSpace wheel for free like you do! 😂😂😂😂😂
lmao my friend that is alot of headache for the wheels just get the wheels and make the payments,
@@GCPerformance18 Nooooooo, I want them for free... I never ever got anything for free! Make my dream come true... I pay for the shipping! LOL
That price it's crazy, somebody is getting rob😂
i like my zipp
Broken carbon fiber spokes are dangerous
That hot sauce is probably not good for health.
hahaha hot sauce cleanses the pallet, good for health
Over the top price, Chinese business model undercut everyone ,create a market, then gradually ramp up the price.Give me proX for 500 usd!
I know this will probably not be received well, because that is how society is, but you say things similar to, “…we will talk about that in a minute…” way too much. You probably said that six times or more. Then the “let’s get into it” after already discussing details. Not saying making these videos is easy, but I guarantee the presentation would be improved without these things.
Not so easy to find tubes with 80mm stems
yes it is we stock them here, regular butyl and also tpu as well a good amount of them
After I bought their grapids for 800 bucks and them being the worst chinese wheel set I've bought for the money, I haven't been hyped on winspace. They're not terrible but they're not any better than elites SLT line that cost half as much and the hubs that come with elite wheels have been better. I even got a better set for 300 for my xc bike from just an unbranded eBay seller.
No for both. I don’t like the way they look
They look great but man I bet they ride crazy stiff!
paired with my 30c tires I loved them today the ride was so nice i didnt want it to end, the felt really responsive and reacted to everything I put down, a very very nice wheel for the first ride
Just buy any $300 Chinese eBay wheels. That's all these are.
no IM telling you I rode these today and they feel top tier veru stiff but super easy to get rolling and hold speed, they are very reactive to whatever you put down at them
Absolutely NO!!!!!! I would buy wheels from Hunts Wheels! The same shit and less expensive!!!
hunt wheels are brutal trash there hubs are trash and hunt wheels have been seen to delaminate, winspace is a much better wheel
@@GCPerformance18 , well I have owned a pair of 40/50mm Hunt Wheels for about 1 year and my experience with them is that they presented ABSOLUTELY NO issues so far. I ride a DISK VERSION so delamination will never occur. Maybe a rim break does. NOT mine.... They kept the trueness so far no issues. They are pretty fast and EXCELLENT BANG FOR YOUR BUCK... I paid 800 dollars for the pair + 100 dollar for shipping and taxes... Big BANG for my poor bucks... WinSpace cost 1200 dollars for the same specification... I am not saying that it does not worth paying US$ 400 dollars more for winspace, but for me it does not... The only thing I cound complain about Hunt Wheels is that THEY ARE VERY LOUD (Extremely) and I don't like that noise despite I have already got used to it... ON THE OTHER HAND, you CAN (not Ican wheels, but you Grant) give me those WinSpace for free (I pay the shipping) and I would become your best FAN EVER! LOL LOL LOL LOL I would say here in Massachusetts that you are the best ever bike Mechanic and that your TH-cam show is the best ever so far...and if somebody dares to say anything negative about your videos aaahhhhhhhh this dude would get a big problem with me LOL LOL ( by the way, I ran pretty fast...)... THINK ABOUT!!!!