The Mavic 3 Is So Much Better Than You Think
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- When I first did my review of the DJI Mavic 3 I really hated the telephoto lens and camera. The zoom feature seemed gimmicky at best. DJI has made some updates and I have been using the Mavic 3 zoom camera for a little while now and I love it. The Mavic 3 telephoto zoom camera can be used to film and create some unbelievably cinematic shots and I think it's worth a second look. The 162mm zoom camera on this drone opens up incredible creative opportunities to capture footage that was up till now impossible.
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Hey Jake! I am loving the 162mm too, I’ve heard they may be big improvements coming soon hopefully! Your shots are gorgeous here. I bet if you ran them them Topaz video enhance AI they would be even better!
Also just an FYI about what you said about the aperture equivalence of the top camera to Full frame being f/26. Yes, you can totally convert the aperture to what that would be but all you are doing is equating physical size of the aperture. All you are doing there is saying that on a full frame camera at 162mm, to get the identical depth of field to what you get with the top camera is to be at the same distance and stop down to F/22.
This has no real connection to low light performance because I am sure you know that if you were at f22 on a full frame at iso 100 wouldn’t see much!
Think about the tiny size of this sensor. Yes, it’s stated F/4.4 isn’t letting in the most light but the size of that aperture in relation to the sensor is key. A full frame F2.8 aperture would be big enough to cover about 6 of those 1/2 sensors! It’s all relative.
To get a realistic equivalence you need to know about the sensors performance and do calculations based on that, the sensor size AND the aperture.
To see what I mean, take a photo with the main camera and the top camera in auto. Then look at the exif data. You will need to do some shutter speed and aperture calculations but you will see that the actual difference in exposure is more like 3 stops between them. This is why I wish manufactures would make NDs with two different strengths in then for each camera. Have an ND 64 or 128 on will make using the top camera horrendous. Avoid variable nds too for that camera as none are of high enough quality for that focal length.
The biggest downside to that camera is not the sensor or the processing but the soft/ cheap lens these used.
Anyway I hope I have blathered on too much!🙂
Thank you Phillip!! Your comments and advice are always much appreciated.
"This is why I wish manufactures would make NDs with two different strengths in then for each" Phillip that's what I was thinking...would be super useful as I would mainly use the full lens and then switch the I see a good parallax opportunity
@@darrenleewinwood I did say this to DJI, Freewell and Polar Pro but those last two have gone for the circular design to cover them both. DJI never get back to me when I give them suggestions to improve their products! 😂
@@philipbloom The TH-cam audience appreciates the professionals like yourself, Jake, and others. DJI Global likely has unimaginable challenges given what's going on geopolitically over the past few years as well as directly in their Chinese locations.
Hey Philip. Could you not just push out the top filter in the DJI ND’s and have it clear . Would be better no filter on this zoom camera I would imagine ?
Great video Jake as always. The dji product manager says on official Chinese forum that they will add more settings and controls to this camera in both photo and video mode via software update by the end of Q3. In addition to that, they plan to implement a dedicated waypoint function further along the way as well. The FLY app is currently undergoing a complete overhaul. It may take sometime to code and test different functions though. We just have to wait and see the full potential of this drone. Hopefully it will become more potent and fun to use at the end of this year. Cheers.
I heard they plan to add manual controls soon and I cannot wait! It will only unleash the full potential of this drone and camera. Cheers mate!
If they add a dedicated waypoint option I’m sold. I was bummed to see that it wasn’t included with this drone. I hope everything you say is true that would be great! I just hope they don’t create a Mavic 3 Pro or Mavic 3S this year.
Sony Airpeak is worth every professional penny
I have LOVED my Mavic 3 from the very beginning, as I ordered it the day it was released. With each update, it has just gotten better and better. I keep hearing that there is another update coming very soon. I can't wait to see what else they add or fix with that update.
Agreed and thank you!!
Amazing shots!
Thank you Kevin!
So my projects with Mavic 3 have been tracking raptor nests on intercoastal waterways, where simply locating active osprey nests is the primary goal vs quality, but I definitely want to learn these skills. Good job!
Nice!!!
Another great production Jake. I’m planning on upgrading to the M3 from an Air2s and have found your honest and practical insight invaluable. Love that shot with the luscious blue river!
Thanks’
I’ve got a phantom 4 pro V2, Inspire 2 with the X7 camera and the Mavic3 with the pro controller and I can say without a doubt that the Mavic 3 is my go to drone. The Inspire 2 with the Zenmuse X7 and interchangeable lenses is still the best quality for videos and photos but the Mavic 3 is damn close and much easier to use. Love the Mavic 3 and the Fly app.
Nice and same for me! I use the inspire 2 and x7 a lot for work but man the mavic 3 works so well with it and the footage intercuts so nicely I do end up using it a lot
Wow, Absolutely stunning video!!!
Thank you very much!
Great video Jake! Your shots are so steady even with 7x zoom and thats more hard if you think how cold is in Alaska so WELL DONE! I really like the telephoto camera on my Mavic 3 !😁
Thank you very much! I was surprised at how steady this camera is even in high winds or very fast movements!
You're the only person I know who can hike a melting glacier and fly a M3 buttery smooth! Way cool!
Rofl. Thankfully I managed to stay upright the whole time!
Hands down best footage I’ve seen from the Mavic 3. That’s zoom camera would be so awesome if we had some more controls for it.
Agreed and I hear they will give us manual control over it this year sometime.
Wow! Stellar camera work! And thanks Jake for adding another film tool to my kit as I was also initially turned off by the tele-lens but will be putting it to work in some pretty amazing places over the next couple of months. I'm fired up for this! Thanks again for the tips and tricks!
Thank you and you’re welcome!!
Amazing video and ensuring now that I bought in the Mavic 3. I've been testing the 1.5X and 7x it looks promising, I just wish they implement RAW files for stills at least up to 2X with the main camera and 7X. Also for video, D-Log at 7X. That would make me really happy!
Agreed!!
Dropped back to add a note re: Freewell "Split" ND Filters for Mavic 3. Jake, you might want to pin this or put a note in your description. Freewell was listening to your pleas and others like Philip Bloom, and about a month ago put out the Split sets for Mavic 3 filters. I can't speak on how well they accomplished the pairings, but if they got about 3 stops less on the top lens, they succeeded. I finally ordered a set, and need to show them off in a suitable environment. Send my plane ticket, and I will be there in a snap, LOL!
Yes they are! I’ve been testing them the last couple weeks and a video is coming soon but in short they are fantastic!
@@JakeSloan There you GO AGAIN. Fine. But my shots of the baseball diamond and the mall parking lot will still be awesome 👌 - LOL! Looking forward to your experience with these.
Thank you for sharing Jake, 101st comment 👍👍
Thank you
Excuse for offtop, in my plans to buy 4K monitor for my editing laptop, but - how much 4K monitor will load GPU of video card by 4K resolution? In this case is it better to stay with 2K monitor?
staying with a 2k or even 1080 monitor will make it easier for your laptop for sure. if you plan to use a 4k monitor then closing the lid on your laptop will help so the computer only needs to drive one screen not both
@@JakeSloan thank you
Superb Jake, I can't wait to get back up into the Mournes and try out these techniques, thank you.
Awesome!! That has to be a great place to drone
@@JakeSloan it's truly beautiful i just wish I could be there more often.
Loved the video, great shots ! Can you please test the Dji mini 3 pro D-Cinelike 10 bit once you get it ? Thank you
I will absolutely
It's a very good drone, u r right, but: way to expensive for the 'average user'.
Agreed
Wow - incredible! Perfect scenery for this kind of shots. I hope DJI will give us more control over the tele lens... Best regards from the Alps 🏔
Thank you
Great video! Dont think people realise the skill you need for this. Well done!
Thank you!
Great video Jake. I noticed that my image with the telephoto lens degraded when I put on a variable polarizing filter. Based on your video I think I now see why (2 panes of filter glass screws up the focus). Also I’m interested if you did any special post processing for the telephoto sequences (e.g. added sharpening, denoise, etc). I’m very excited to play around with parallax effect. Unfortunately my area isn’t quite as spectacular as yours!
I only messed with the color grade a little bit to lessen the contrast and bring up the mids a little bit. it's pretty amazing what you can capture with this lens even in less spectacular locations lol
Incredible! I'm going to start shopping for one!
thank you
Just wonder why your film is always winter?
I live in alaska. You’ll see some summer stuff for the next few months. This was filmed on a glacier so that looks winter all the time.
It's so crazy how drones have evolved over the years. It used to be you have to fly a plane to get shots like these, now it can all be done in the palm of your hands. Great work with this Jake.
Agreed!!!
What a great video. I just bought the Drone and was wishing it didn’t have the x7 lens and been a bit cheaper. Now I’m thinking of all the cool shots you can get, thanks to you 👍🏼
Thanks!
Impressed Jake 👍 I've an Air 2 which always does me well , enjoyed your film 👍👍 Glyn 🇬🇧
Awesome cheers.
Fantastic video! Thanks again for sharing.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hi Jake, great review, I have done some of the similar shots like you did and I have to tell you, Im pretty experienced pilot, it was very hard to keep the circle nice and steady and objekt in the middle like you did. And you even walked in some of the shots? I do not get it, do you have any tips how to do this? Did you changes expo settings? I was sure that non of the "helper" modes works with this camera (orbit, tracking etc). Thanks and keep up great work. Jakub
Thanks and it takes a LOT of practice to do this while walking lol. Maybe I will put together a video about it soon
OK, now my wife just said we MUST go to the Knik Glacier! Fabulous video not only the footage but the info on Mavic 3!
Thanks so much Jim!
This is great! I live that they added telephoto. With more people that show how amazing it is, and the ways that DJI can improve it, then hopefully things will get better. It really gives a unique perspective and incredible shots!
Agreed!!
Them Parallaxes. Go to try to make em myself when I go to the mountains up north in Sweden, in June.
Awesome!!!
Well done as always, Jake. Have a great day and thanks for sharing! 😀
Thanks! You too!
Wow... Amazing video Jake as always!!!
I'm really impressive with you fantastic work with the Mavic 3, thank for sharing your knowledge and experience using this drone to get a amazing motion blur effects or parallax effects too.
Great job, simply amazing videos!!! 👌👏👏🤚
My pleasure!
Well, you filmed in a badass place already ahah, yes the Mavic 3 is a beast, but wherever is that you filmed this, even with a normal DJI mini 3 pro or air 2s would have been bomb.
Where is this, Patagonia?
9:03 is beautiful.
lol most of this was filmed in Alaska, but actually I did a TON of work in the 48 states for various shows commercial shoots and companies that I used the drone for as well, Im just not able to share the footage as it's not mine to share
Still jealous of such an epic location... awesome footage there man!
Thanks Paul!
👍「おやぢ日記」
Cheers
stunning footage! thank you
Thanks
Have been learning a lot from your videos! Thank you so much for all the work and effort, Jake.
Glad to hear it!
Very nicely explained, can you please let me know if the scene is being shot 1x is the telephoto lens involved.. ? If no then do we necessarily need to shoot a scene in 7x to get both the cameras involved...?
the only time the telephoto camera is involved is 7x 1x is the main camera and anything else is a digital crop
now thats the feature ive seen to date that looks so good thanks for sharing that with us jake 😁👍👌 🇬🇧
Thanks!
Nice video😁 , liked & subscribed, thanks for sharing ‼️
Thanks!
Jake holy cow was this amazing to watch, that parallax effect is nuts! This really is the drone that keeps on giving 😂 once DJI can figure out this GPS issue I think I might have to get one! I’ve gotta get back into flying…
I loved this video thank you for creating it, it’s super helpful to see the things this drone is capable of in the hands of pro user.
Thanks Robert!
Very nice video Jake. And very informative. You da man😎
Thank you
Great video again. Can the exposure be locked on this lens?
Yes it can but it’s a little strange. You have to setup one of the buttons to be the AE lock
@@JakeSloan yes that is strange. Thanks for the info Jake
@@JakeSloan thanks for replying so quickly
Love this video, wonderful information. Did you find flying over a glacier challenging due to wind variables or did the Mavic handle that okay?
The mavic handled it great actually
Very nice video. But I have to say: Those guys on the glacier are in great danger. One slip, and they can disappear in one of the several holes in the ice. Not visible because cover of snow. I know, I am from Norway:)
Anyone doing anything on glaciers needs to have a lot of experience or go with guides who have a lot of experience. Both of us (me and my friend in this video) have decades of experience with this and so we were safe and took many precautions to be safe for this video. At no point would either one of us have walked on snow on the glacier because as you correctly point out it isn't safe as you don't know what's under the snow. Cheers from Alaska. I hope someday to come visit Norway. You have some spectacular places to film there!
@@JakeSloan Yes, we have som great places. What is special in Norway is that you can reach these places right outside the houses. Some cities are in the middle of it.
You live in such an amazing place Jake. I haven’t had a desire to buy the Mavic 3 until now. Haha
Great video as always sir.
Thank you sir!
Jake, I simply love your videos and this is no exception. im thinking about selling my Air 2S to get the Mavic 3. I don't need it but I really want it!! ;)
Thank you so much! I totally understand your struggle too. I finally sold my Air 2s after realizing I wasn’t going to use it again after working with the mavic 3 lol
@@JakeSloan HeyJake, thanks for the reply! So I just bought the Mini 3 Pro (like just this past weekend) and I love it. Now thinking I really want the Mavic 3 (I REALLY miss my Mavic 2 Pro!) and the Mini3 to complete my big drone/little drone lineup and selling my S2. I'm not a pro, just do it for fun and personal content creation. Any thoughts on this from you would be appreciated!
That’s my setup currently. Mini 3 for fun and hiking trips and mavic 3 for work or special stuff I want to capture really well. It’s a great combo
@@JakeSloan thanks Jake. Keep up the great work!
Very inspiring 💚
Thanks
Interesting that the variable ND filters wouldn't focus. Great info about using manual focus after getting the focus right with autofocus.
Was your talking head shot from the Mavic 3 while it was flying or sitting on a rock or something?
Way to find the strengths of that camera and use it to your advantage, rather than discount it due to its weaknesses. Very cool, Jake. 👊
My talking head shot was from the mavic 3 sitting on the glacier ice lol.
@@JakeSloan Ha ha nice!
that parallax is super cool looking.
Agreed
Problem is, you can't use the circle quickshot with the 7x camera.
True
For 2023 the FAA wants everyone to have their drone operate with Remote ID. Do you know if that's included or do you think there will be installable software for it or do you think something else? I'm a bit worried that my Mavic 3 may not be able to comply. I got my 3 a few weeks ago and I don't want my investment to go to waste.
It’s merely a matter of a firmware update for most drones made in the last couple years. They already made them remote id compliant for Japans regulations with a firmware update
Wow! An eye opener....thanks for posting!
Thanks!
Hi, on average how far away are you having to fly from your subject to get the x7 zoom to blow up the backdrop? Cheers
a few hundred feet usually
The water at 0:53 got me like, "Dayum soooooon". Great video!
hahahaha awesome! yeah those are some seriously epic places I get to go!
I just love this drone! DJI Mavic 3 Pro is PRO! Amazing video!
It really is!
Sweet love it great job bro air2 s army out
Thanks Mike!!
Awesome footage buddy 👏 👍 👌
Thanks!
Amazing. The shots, the information, so much to learn. Thanks.
Thank you.
Hi Jake, thanks for sharing. Deciding to get maviv 3 or classic and this helps. Just to confirm, when using the telephoto does the obstacle avoidance work? Thanks.
It does but I never recommend relying on obstacle avoidance 100%. It usually when you do that some small branch come out of nowhere and takes you down 😂😂
@@JakeSloan thanks Jake for the info. Now hearing the 3 pro is coming out. Heard the in between 1 to 7 times zoom should be good by then. All the best sir 👍
Great Video, Thanks for sharing.
Thanks!
Yes amazing footage and great tips on how to achieve that! Got to love those great open spaces there, too!
Thanks Mark!!
Amazing vid Jake 👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks Bro!!
Great info and re-review.
Thanks Jake.
You’re welcome
it sucks but 99% of nyc is anti drone which means you cant fly it ! so its useless to me ! but i guess elsewhere is fun to have.
That does suck
Why is the music so much louder than your narration? Don't you value what you have to say?
It’s not louder. It’s 36db quieter
Is this video made with the mavic 3 or mavic 3 cine?
mavic 3 not the cine version
I was very surprised and disappointed that the VND filters didn’t work properly with the tele lens. That’s a major issue in my opinion. I contacted Polarpro for that reason to verify this. They were kind of cryptic in their replies (I referred to this review). I guess they don’t want to confess that the problems truly exist… Now, with the full potential of the tele lens this point gets even more crucial. DJI says the focus performance has been improved with the latest firmware update. Could you doublecheck if the issue has been solved with the update and VND filters are now 100% useable (together with the Polarpro VND filters)? Thank you!
it has gotten much better in the latest firmware and to be clear it isn't just polar pro it's any VND filter. Also it does the best in very well lit situations and lighter VND settings (2stops vs 5 stops etc)
@@JakeSloan Thank you for your reply and your evaluations. It is clear that the effect has been with with any VND filter, not only Polarpro. I was just about to buy the Polarpro VND set and that’s why I wanted a clear statement from them. I am still not sure if it’s a good idea to purchase a VND filter if I want to use it without any restrictions together with the tele lens or if I should rather go for the original fixed DJI ND filters and accept the disadvantage of switching filters due to light conditions. I don’t want to have to buy both because of upcoming malfunctions 🤔
This video deserves way more views, beautiful shots brother!
Thank you very much
Awesome result here !
Curious to see your gain/expo settings for this lens.
Thanks!
Woahhh that was quite the trippy visual, it really shows a great contrast between the size and scale of nature. Beautiful camera work!
Thank you
Where was this shot and what time of year? I want to visit!
This was shot on knik glacier in June. You can take helicopter tours there!
Don't you experience some sort of "brightness/contrast flickering" in high light ratio scenes ? When a brighter (or darker) layer enter the frame, the camera seems to swap to compensate.
How do you deal with this issue ?
I make sure and keep my ISO as low as possible and lock it to where I want the exposure to be for the scene
Thanks for this but I mean when everything is set to manual and the brightness/contrast switch (mainly visible in shadows parts of the frame).
It’s more obvious when something brighter (like sky or clouds) enter/leave the scene.
Nothing to do with auto mode or settings, more like a software issue trying to compensate or optimize the dynamic range. It looks like switching from normal color to a "loggish" one.
This regularly ruins my footage and I´m wondering if there is any trick to reduce this phenomen as the only solution provide by DJI support (that sounds like a joke to my ears) is to use the 24mm when filming large light ratio scene…
Thanks a lot for your time
amazing! waiting for your review of the mini 3 pro :D
It’s coming!
Marvellous and fantastic shot of mavic 3
Thank you
Nice video.....gorgeous scenery.
Thank uou
Thank You for all of your videos that you did.
You’re welcome
wow where is this shot? absolutely beautiful.
This was shot on knik glacier Alaska
Been wanting this on the Air 2S for years.
oh man that would be awesome
love it...yes it is....
Thanks James!!
Incredible shots on a telephoto lens!!!
Ty!
Very NICE ! Jake. That is something to be very proud of. There is another Mavic 3 video done by Stefan Forster titled Iceland if your interested. That Mavic 3 is such an amazing drone. Is this the Cine Version or standard M3? Again.....well done........👍
I’ll have to check that out. This was all filmed with a regular version
Sweet - Nice Job!
Thank you!
The zoom camera is pretty amazing actually. I just got back from Iceland with the Mavic 3 and got some crazy good parallax shots with it. But, I returned the drone yesterday. It's just not done yet... and for $3000, I don't have the patience to wait for what I consider necessary features; zebras in d-log, histogram that's not affected by color display assist, among other quirks of the app/drone. I'll hold onto my Mavic 2 Pro and Fly 4 apps and maybe see if DJI finally re-releases this drone with a proper controller as the 'Mavic 3 Pro'.
Yeah still needs some work
I just discovered that PhotoLab 5 has a profile and lens correction for the Mavic 3 camera and lens specifically. I also sent them the specs on the top camera because it wasn't working when I tried it. They have implemented the corrections for that camera as well in the latest version 5.4. I've been working with it and it does a great job. Thought this might be useful.
Oh nice!!!
Really helpful, thanks Jake.
Thanks
Great and onest vid!
Thanks
Thanks for a great tip.
You’re welcome
Excellent Video, and Amazing Photography Jake! Very Well Done! Thank You.
Thank you so much!!
wow you made me want a Mavic 3 now!!, Is the sat lock a real issues still I head it can take 3 - 5 mins to get lock?
It still takes a bit. Maybe not quite that long
I saw a good video explaining why. Apparently this drone does not use Glonas sat and instead uses 3 sats systems including the Chinese one Baudi. These are not as populous and because it has to scan three systems it takes longer to get a fix than the other drones, hopefully this can be changed by software although there's no flash in the GPS board. It still uses GPS
BeiDou Navigation Satellite System
Such a cool video.
Thank you so much!
What glacier are you on??
Knik
wow! awesome stuff man.
Thanks
I thought I was doing something wrong, so gave up on the telephoto lens - everything is soft while using the Polar Pro Variable ND!? I have the firmware updated, but definitely have sharper images at the wide end when compared to the telephoto. I’ll be more thoughtful and test this out this weekend.
Definitely try it without the variable ND filters. That was one reason I really didn’t like mine too
@@JakeSloan Really appreciate the response, Jake. Beautiful footage in your video, by the way, so impressive. Thank you again for the input and response, looking at an 8-Stop ND to add to the kit.
hii
Cheers
Incredible Jake! The parallax effect is great to give scenes more depth and movement
Thank you sir!!
I like your videos jake, truly one of the most honest and informative real life youtuber for drones. I have a mavic 3 too!
Thank you so much!
Nice
Thanks