@@gosman949 They are expensive here in Germany too. I paid roughly 1900€ which is pretty much the same price as in Switzerland and still are some of the most expensive coffee mashines. Sometimes there are better offers for 1800€ but they never exceed 2000€ so that they stay below the older Z10. But the American prices are simply unjustified. 3500 Dollars - that adds 50% to the German prices. Maybe you should look for Siemens models or Nivona (not sure they are available on the US market). They are equal competitors for Jura here in Europe.
Ah really! That's interesting, but if you could set in mls would that change anything really? It would just run for longer or shorter times based on what ml you set.
@@motivatedtravel That would assume it could automatically tell that you are using oat milk and not dairy/soy/almond etc in order to adjust the time itself.
@@RagebotTKR Hmm... maybe. Or would it just need to tell how many mls it has put through its tube. Interesting either way, I wonder what the tech limitation is there.
@@motivatedtravel Oh, I see what you mean. I guess it could possibly know the input volume even if the output volume changes due to the milk type. I think people would expect it to actually output the specified ml though which could be confusing. Don't forget, we live in a world where people need to be told not to eat Silica Gel. I guess seconds is a universal measurement not open to interpretation.
This is the first time I have seen you on youtube. Loved your review! I am in the US and we have a bit more room in our kitchen, but I loved your honesty and comments about the cleaning cycle etc. Have you reviewed any other bean to coffee machines that have twin grinders that you would recommend?
LOVE THIS REVIEW! Great stuff.
Thank you so much!
I‘m from Germany. We bought ours in April. I am extremely satisfied.
That's great to hear, glad you like it.
and you probably got it for a much better price than us Americans and Aussies!
@@gosman949 They are expensive here in Germany too. I paid roughly 1900€ which is pretty much the same price as in Switzerland and still are some of the most expensive coffee mashines. Sometimes there are better offers for 1800€ but they never exceed 2000€ so that they stay below the older Z10.
But the American prices are simply unjustified. 3500 Dollars - that adds 50% to the German prices. Maybe you should look for Siemens models or Nivona (not sure they are available on the US market). They are equal competitors for Jura here in Europe.
It measures milk in seconds because different varieties such as Dairy/Oat etc produce different volumes in the same amount of time.
Ah really! That's interesting, but if you could set in mls would that change anything really? It would just run for longer or shorter times based on what ml you set.
@@motivatedtravel That would assume it could automatically tell that you are using oat milk and not dairy/soy/almond etc in order to adjust the time itself.
@@RagebotTKR Hmm... maybe. Or would it just need to tell how many mls it has put through its tube. Interesting either way, I wonder what the tech limitation is there.
@@motivatedtravel Oh, I see what you mean. I guess it could possibly know the input volume even if the output volume changes due to the milk type. I think people would expect it to actually output the specified ml though which could be confusing. Don't forget, we live in a world where people need to be told not to eat Silica Gel. I guess seconds is a universal measurement not open to interpretation.
@@RagebotTKR hahaha, told repeatedly in fact. That gave me a good chuckle!
This is the first time I have seen you on youtube. Loved your review! I am in the US and we have a bit more room in our kitchen, but I loved your honesty and comments about the cleaning cycle etc. Have you reviewed any other bean to coffee machines that have twin grinders that you would recommend?
Thank you! The Delonghi Rivelia comes with two hoppers that you can switch in and out, and I think it's just fine for the price difference.