This is practically word for word how we feel too. My husband is in the same industry and our challenges are very similar re work, visa, childcare costs, support etc. It’s such a hard decision as there are also so many positives here like you say. Wishing you the best in making the right one for your family. X
its SO hard, i completely sympathise with you because i'm so torn. All i would say is nothing has to be forever - it's also not permanent so you can always change your decision if you really hate something. I wish you all the best too! x
Having moved from South Africa to UK, I’ve experienced the same in that finding a lot of challenges with living in UK (weather playing a massive factor as don’t quite realise how much of an impact weather has on one’s lifestyle) with that being said financial impact and affordability is also massive. Now been 3 years in UK and don’t feel settled(don’t have kids yet) Thinking of Australia - it seems a stunning place if one can earn enough and keep costs like childcare down. Thinking what about pushing through and getting PR to alleviate some of the financial burden of childcare, etc. Then can explore more and move location if needed. Once you have PR you can possibly also get work and things will change a lot for the better. It’s just this period which is very challenging. I wouldn’t make any rushed decisions off emotions. Could also explore some business ideas to supplement income… In addition, if the kids have AUS passports, that’ll open a lot of doors for them too and their futures. Can always return to UK but not easy to return to AUS and go through the visa process again. NSW looks rather costly. Queensland, Adelaide and WA look bit more affordable in terms of daily living… There’s no silver bullet and every country has its pros and cons… Living an outdoor lifestyle and as a child growing up with sunshine and play areas and paddle boards on the ocean, etc - it sounds so unreal
ive known a lot of people move to Australia and after x amount of years gone back to the uk only to return back a few years later. i done it myself. i lasted less than 2 years in London. i just couldn't afford to live. yeah having my extended family and old school friends was great but peoples lives were changing and i felt my life wasnt. so 2010 i finally called Australia home. every few years i head back to London for a catch up and few beers and that does me. you need to give it time. its hard not having that social connection with family and friends but you also got to remember that it is a changing world that we live in and to make new friends is even more difficult. join a meet up group. also geelong in Victoria is a great place to live. very similar in Ireland.
I watched you guys stress take a breather take too steps. Back. Don’t rush you can self stress if things get hard don’t rush in to talk about it. In moderation that stops the stress.be more layback that’s what aussies Do you will make it. Hang in there stay strong and focas. Do every thing layback
I understand the strong pull for you to return to the familiar and the support of your family, you have so much to consider. Just remember though that once you settle in a town and start your kids at a local school you WILL find long term friends. Neighbours and the parents of your kids friends will become like family. Other people, including Aussies, feel isolated at times and are looking out to connect too. Wherever you choose to live, I think that during the next 5-10 years of your children's lives, it is important to be settled. You definitely can make a happy life for yourself in Australia and you would be making a great contribution to the future of our country if you decided to stay. Australia is built on immigrants finding their way in a new country so you are in good company. I hope that you try to stay but understand what's calling you home. Either way you've been very brave and have experienced a great challenge and adventure. Good luck!
Great honest vlog kimbo. Takes alot of courage to do what you and your husband have done over the past 18 months, especially with two little ones, with minimal support. I think your kids have made up your mind in terms of if you stay in Australia or move back to the UK. Not a bad thing at all, at least you can say you give it a go. Wishing you and your family the very best for the future, whatever decision you make!!!👍👍
Thank you for being so frank and open. It might be worth considering investing in PR because more benefits would be available now and, for a few years at least, it would be easier to return to Australia (even easier with citizenship). I see how difficult life is as a family on a 482 visa compared to a 190. I also see how you are missing friends and family. But the long term economic and social prospects are far better in Australia than a UK which has serious and long term economic issues. Just consider getting a Doctor's appointment there. And think about a dark and cold night in November or February. I used to go to the UK twice a year for 10 days to see my elderly parents. You get used to it and the fare I paid in 1997 was the same in 2022! But whatever you do good luck.
Hi there, good to see you again. Was concerned about you after the last vlog. Whatever you decide, I wish you all the best. Would love to have you in Adelaide, but we went to WA this year, and it's absolutely beautiful, and there are lots of people from the UK, and you might find it easier to find people who are on the same journey. All the best!!!!
Thank you for your video and the honesty you demonstrate. It must feel good having family here on a visit. Tough decisions for you both and I feel for you. It struck me as you talked that I am unsure about your primary motivation in coming to Australia- was it to have an adventure in a different country with better weather and a beach lifestyle and to just experience that, enjoy and perhaps see if you want that long term? If so, a temporary visa makes some sense. The difficulty with the temporary visa, as you have experienced, is that you don’t receive the benefits of permanent residency and are kind of tied to an employer (who sounds like they are ensuring they get the maximum benefit from the arrangement). It probably wouldn’t matter so much if you were a young couple without children as you could both work, be financially comfortable, able to travel more on weekends or short breaks while you were here and have more of an adventurous life as a couple doing things together. However, if your primary motivation was to come and ‘likely’ put down roots, then it would have been best to come with permanent residency, be able to choose your employer, change employers without difficulty and receive the benefits of childcare subsidy, free school, housing purchase help etc. While a permanent visa costs upfront and you don’t usually have an employer to pay some of the relocation costs, there are the ongoing benefits of permanency which accompany that initial outlay and cover the initial outlay quite quickly. That is how the Australian immigration system is structured with the two broad categories of work visas (whether we agree with it or not). Then there is what I think of as the separate issue of missing your family and support system and creating a new friendship or support group. I think everyone has a different tolerance and approach with these two issues and only the two of you can gauge the impact of this on you individually and as a couple. Previous life experiences can sometimes help with gauging one’s response but not always, especially if this is the first time you have experienced prolonged separation from your exisiting support group. I think this factor is so important for some individuals that it completely overrides the type of visa you come on. However, if you combine this factor with the temporary visa disadvantages for those with children, then you are facing challenges on multiple levels. On another note, I know a couple of civil engineers who are not expected to work those kind of hours consistently so there are jobs around in this profession with better working conditions. One of them is now self employed as a consulting engineer and the other works in a managerial role with a government body. Whatever you decide, I do sincerely wish you happiness and a sense of peace with your decision. ❤🙏🏻
Such an honest perspective. Depending on your visa, your family should be eligible for citizenship in just two and a half years. After taking such a leap by moving to Australia in the first instance, I think you should hold out for at least four years as it will keep options open for a lifetime. I would encourage you to take a long term view before making your decision. I'm sure when you decided to move, you done so with the hope that it would improve your family's quality of life for decades. Bumps on the road are to be expected. For selfish reasons I would like you to stay. As a 24 year old Scot keen on moving to Australia in a couple of years, I enjoy watching your videos above all others.
I think this would be an amazing thing to give the kids Australian citizenship. I wish someone would have asked them do they think their outlook would be different if they had moved as a couple and not as a family, or if the kids were older? It would give a good insight for people looking to move who don’t have a family.
@@BellaBella284 I can answer that for you now - yes, it would have been different if we were a couple. Two incomes, living in an apartment in sydney - travelling around, lounging on the beach - absolutely! what couple wouldn't choose that over Scotland? However we have two beautiful children who at the very least need happy parents - not stressed out, tired, and anxious parents or a daddy that isn't around as much as he was in scotland. I would like them to be settled in their home in stead of worrying that we will be given a months notice to find a new rental because our landlords want to increase our rent each week. hope that helps with that question - i'm always happy to give advice :)
i'm unsure of your personal circumstances but at 24 years old i ABSOLUTELY encourage you to come to Australia and give it a go! I wish i had done this when I was younger - it will be the best thing you do! It will be a completely different experience at your age :) go for it!!!
@@kimberleylucasYou moved further away from his work place, no landlord can increase rent weekly! He has a contract to fulfill and then you can be more settled and find jobs? It's never enough, why is that exactly?
@jenniferharrison8915 do you live in Australia? 😂 they absolutely can increase your rent, it's happened to 2 people I know already and the reason they are having to find new homes. Just greed. We moved to be CLOSER to my husbands work? Unfortunately he will never have a fixed place of work so do you suggest we continue moving each time he starts on a new project? It's not that easy with 2 young children unfortunately. My daughter starts school in January and that's not fair on her. Finally, would you work 2 extra hours per day for free? :)
You guys would love the Sunny coast! There are suburbs classed as regional that are actually only 20 min drive from the beach so that could always be an option for you. I would definitely recommend moving out of NSW as Sydney prices will affect your cost of living. I hope you do stay as you’ve been through a tough ride but it’ll all smooth out soon!
Hello both from the (yes sunny!) U.K, I'm so glad you posted, I was waiting in anticipation for your Q&A! It's always nice to hear from both of you. I've been watching your journey from the very start (still not even sure how it popped up!) I feel you are torn, only you can make the decision that's right for you of course. I just wonder if when you have PR, child care cost reduce, different less expensive area etc that you will finally feel settled more. Also, once you have tried that and given it some time then you can make a fully informed decision? Honestly, the weather isn't that bad here, its currently beautiful sunny and autumnal with a glorious wealth of colours in the trees. There is so much to do with kids here too, I can say hand on heart, that the U.K is very family orientated especially compared to America (where my hubby is from) there 10 days leave a yr is normal, bloody awful! I adore Australia though, it has so much to give. Whatever you decide, I just hope you are all happy. I lost my job recently after 15yrs in Childrens Social Care and I'm feeling adrift and scared myself. 4 people and a needy cat depend on me. I don't know what's ahead either. Sending hugs, Love Jessie x 🧡
hello - i always smile when i see your comment! Thank you for your positivity - it definitely helps when we are feeling so torn. Honestly.... right now i'm not even thinking about the weather back home, just the people in it :) Home is what you make it and i think being so far away from family has made me realise what really matters. My kids having happy parents its the absolute minimum for me and right now i feel like they aren't getting our best versions and I absolutely hate that. I never hated home - we always knew this would be a 'lets give it a try' and thats exactly what we are doing! hopefully give you more of an update soon! sending you hugs - i'm so sorry about your job :( x
If Scotland had good weather is would be the best place to live in my opinion 😂 The weather is absolutely brutal! Having the comfort/support from loved ones when it’s pouring outside is a luxury though. Everything seems to come with a sacrifice. One thing I would say as a mum of 2 in Scotland is that your children will not always be so demanding. You won’t always need the kind of support you’re craving now. I think moving to give your kids a better future is a long game however you and Euan are important too. You’re doing something some people only dream of and regardless if you stay and it works out or you come home you will have grown so much. While the cost of everything is going up in Scotland house prices are around 10% less than what they were selling 6 months ago. Or they are where I live. Absolutely do not envy you for having to make this choice. All the best! X
I've been following your journey from the beginning Kimberley, but I stay quiet mostly. I personally think that you and your family would've been far better off in Western Australia, mostly because it's a lot more family orientated than the east coast is. I've traveled Aus, and found that people on the east coast, as nice as they are, stay pretty well much to themselves, or their small circle of friends. Whereas here in the west, we mix a lot more with new people, especially when you have young kids. We have quite a large population of Scottish, English and Irish in my area (Mandurah, Rockingham), which would also help you guys to settle I think. Good luck with trying to decide what's next for you all, I wish you all the very best ❤
I agree… I would have loved to watch them move to WA. I’ve been hoping that’s what they would do rather than considering Adelaide. However I do wish them all the best, I’ve loved watching their journey 🩷
Hi Kimberley 😊 I know how much rent can eat into anyone’s budget, especially renting houses in the Sydney/Central Coast area of NSW. Have you considered downsizing to a 2 bedroom flat/unit? Especially since the kids are still so young and could share a room with double bunk beds. Once you have PR (just a matter of time) so childcare costs are alleviated, your outlook may be very different. I’ve been watching and following your Australian adventure from the start and I can’t help wondering if all the house moves have impacted your quality of life. It’s only been 18 months and you’ve moved 5x or more! That would do anyone’s head in 😢 Wishing you both all the best. 🙏 You seem to fit in here more than you realise, just a few normal, albeit aggravating, life issues 🤷♀️ Take care 😊❤
It’s not easy living next to the beach. The life style is amazing. If you got a good job Australia was cheap to live next to beach but the prises went up because a lot off people what to move to the beach it has very high value
Is there any chance that with the Christmas school holidays coming up, could you maybe come over to Adelaide for a holiday to see what you think of the place and look around. If you can apply for PR after 2 1/2 years, you are so close to that time, wouldn’t it be worth waiting and trying to get that, before making the decision of going back to Scotland. By the way we have lovely children’s playgrounds in Adelaide too and beautiful beaches. More affordable city to live in too.
Go wherever makes you happy. People can tell you the UK is a mess, you can still find your spot, surrounded by your community and people that make you feel good. Nowhere is perfect, it's easy to see the sunshine and beaches as many do and think life will be better- that's not the case for everyone. Australia has it's issues too and I do wonder if people actually look at the politics in Oz that make the move. They just find a bubble. My hubby and I work with the community and it's so sad, the comments I see people making about the UK and the issues are happening here in Oz too!! We love both places but being settled, being happy is a big priority. Australia will always be here. I don't think people realise how many end up going home!! Life is an adventure. Yes Scotland isn't known for it's sunshine 😂 it's only weather at the end of the day!
As someone also from Scotland - This place isn’t the place you left 18 months ago. If I was you I would try and find happiness in Australia, try a different state.
@@BellaBella284 I totally agree with you, the UK is in real trouble. I moved to Ireland 11 years ago, and God it was so hard for the first two years, but there were better days to come, and I'm still here. I'd never go back to UK now,
@@kimberleylucas I know, but with respect a short visit round family and friends isn’t the same. There are scary things going on round here, town centres are chock full of new faces and if I had a viable alternative for my kids to grow up somewhere safer I would take it.
@@kimberleylucas oh no, I moved from Manchester to Ireland, sorry. I was just agreeing with this comment. as I say to my brother, don't ever think that the UK is going to get any better, you left it behind for a reason. But I know you have a really big pull with your family and support network. X
To be honest I have watched your vlogs ever since you arrived and never at any time have I had any confidence that you would be staying In Australia permanently.. Your hearts are obviously still in Scotland and you are never really going to be happy until you are back home, I think you would be less stressed if you finally made that call and accepted that this was only a temporary move, set an end date and then enjoyed the time that you had left here. Once you make that call I,m sure that the stress levels would drop away, what is the point of trying to stay and get a PR or even an Australian passport if you are not convinced that this will be your home.. As an Aussie I dont see much point in trying to convince immigrants that they should stay here they really need to decide whether they want to be part of this nations future or not. Along with my young family I lived and worked in a number of different countries around the world we loved the life experiences but the big difference was that we knew each of those moves was temporary and after a year or two we would be going back home...Good luck with whichever decision you make at worst you at least gave it go..
Hi Kimberley, if you make the decision to return I know the sunshine will seem a big miss. However, have you considered a holiday cottage abroad in Europe (or even siteing a large caravan in one of the beautiful parks within in Europe? We have been crossing regularly to Europe since our return. If you use the ferries they are cheap and motorways brilliant. We still have sunshine on our doorstep (virtually )to get our 'fix' of sun lol Sending you all love ❤🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘
I think when you move so far from home you appreciate that weather really isn't everything. The UK is lucky to have Europe on its doorstep. My mum has a home in Spain so I would be getting a good few trips in there 😅😅😅 x
Chiming in from Perth WA (my wife is from the UK & i was born & bred in WA). It is pity you did not move to direct to Perth from Scotland as it is far more family orientated and more relaxed lifestyle as not the heavy traffic & dense population like the east coast so housing & living costs are cheaper and standard of housing is much better as more modern & our beaches are better than the east coast. Many Scots,Irish, Poms have settled here (we call it little Britain especially down Rockinham/Mandurah way and in the northern coastal suburbs from Ocean Reef up the Yanchep. Civil Engineering jobs are a plenty over here, Housing is way cheaper than the east coast so do you homework and reach out to anyone you may know that is living over here to discuss direct with them. My wife absolutely loves it here and could never go back to the UK except for a holiday which we did in May for a wedding and then tripped around Europe for 3 weeks but it was so nice to get back home to our wide open spaces (UK/Europe is way too crowded & too busy & expensive these days).
Better beaches is a real stretch!!! Outside Perth the beaches are impressive but Perth are just run of the mill ordinary compared to the best parts of NSW and QLD! 😅
Hello I been watching you for sometime like many whom come to Australia from the UK yes it far about in 2024 how hard is it. The one thing I am talking about is family. Nowadays you are only click away from family friends whom you left behind. My Adopted Mother's family also came from the UK In the 1950s and now she gone bless her soul. Yet it would be even harder because there was only letter writing and a phone calls. Now my Aunt is the only one that still lives and she quite happy being here and Australian.
Hope you are feeling better as well with family visiting Kimberley? I appreciate your honesty in how the immigration journey has been for your family. Something in me wants to add that Ewan is allowed to ‘defend’ his contract hours. I don’t know how his work is, and of course I can’t say anything on it. I just feel like a contact on 38 hours can’t be 50 hours in realtime, there has to be a way to ‘fight’ that. Isn’t there a union or something to ask? Anyway, again, you probably have thought about this a million times so excuse my forwardness. Hope he can look at options to find a fairer work environment, that’ll lift some pressures off the family as a whole. I hope you find the best solution for yous and can be content in the choice 😊😘
Hello, lovely to hear from you again :) Euan has raised many times that his hours are WILDLY different from his contract but unfortunately it seems to be just expected now, and all his team seem to do the same. I really feel for him as its time that he could be home with us and instead he is working (for free!) .... so this has a huge impact on us all and its very difficult. I'm not sure this would really change even moving to another state/company. I think this is where my concern lies right now. Time will tell im sure :)
We currently live by the beach now in Crosby, Liverpool, UK. We want to move near the beach if we can afford too. I’m so sorry it’s been such a struggle. It would massively help if you had some family or friends out there with you for support. We are lucky enough that we have some family out there already but we will likely still be a few hours away from them to start with until we get PR and are free to move nearer to them. We will likely have to be somewhere regional. Our family are in Brisbane.
Many people come here and embrace the opportunity fully, because they are genuinely open to face every day life, not some idealistic fantasy! Australia is far more than a beach and shopping! It is normal to start small and grow!
absolutely! my phone is out of charge so i'm sorry i haven't replied! I'll message you tomorrow and we can arrange something soon! Isla would love that :) x
Before you make any decision, go back and watch your leaving Scotland video to remind yourself of your feelings back then. In my opinion, while the Visa you came out on provided an instant job, it appears that the employer has exploited your position and this is making for the poor work life balance, also many people in the same position have a much better work life balance. In addition this Visa has precluded you from PR, made childcare and school unaffordable and precluded you from owning a home before prices sky rocketed. In the end you have to follow your heart as there us no point feeling miserable. Good luck with your decision.
if you are not happy in the central coast .... good luck finding a better place . adelaide might be cheaper but its cheaper for a reason. do your research and ask adelaide folks. that town can get hotter than sydney . seems to me its all about $$ .
This is very true. It was a lot easier and cheaper before covid. Many people have told me this and a lot have returned home because of it. I appreciate your comment. Thank you ❤
Im Aussie, so from what I can tell you have moved as a family on a minimalist visa - a work sponsorship as against applying to immigrate with full PR rights - these decision's have consequences, as you found out you are not entitled to subsidised child care. due to being work sponsored. This route is one of the most difficult and this is why you are finding it hard financially adjust and also seem fixed on living right on a beach environment whereas most Aussies know beach property is expensive that's why we have swimming pools etc and make our houses in the suburbs like a mini resort.
from what I can work out, even if we were on a PR visa route - we wouldn't get that much from CCS. School fees yes, but CCS wouldn't decrease that much unfortunately which i just find wild. Childcare should be a lot less for everyone - then people would be able to get back to work quicker & for longer etc. I understand your comment about beach properties, but we also didn't want to pay an extra $100 per month for a pool cleaner haha! We are just trying it all out to figure which we prefer :)
Whose paying for the childcare the tax payer it's not an endless pit in Australia you know with a small working population and high ageing population ...even with PR there are waiting periods for any welfare and CCS and FTb are still welfare not an entitlement @@kimberleylucas
Truly. It is time to go home. The family is there and friends. But you are not living for the family and friends. You are living for YOUR family. The children should come first and foremost in this decision. I have never moved that far. So it is not coming from someone in your position. You have to make the decision now for the children to have a settled life. They need the time to make friends. Whatever you do I wish you the best whether here or back in Scotland. Just an opinion.
I can see you're both really torn, and it looks to me like you're really trying to stay and not give up without a fight, but you're lacking support. But Isla and Ren won't always be small and you won't always need help with them. But it looks like Euan would prefer to be in Scotland, and that's understandable, he's having to put in some serious graft to just break even. If the only thing he will miss is the weather, Is that really enough to make you stay? You'll know what to do, you're there ones living that life and making sacrifices. I look forward to your next video to see what decision you've made, best of luck, I'm rooting for you both ❤️
Always lovely to see you commenting! Thank you for sticking around!! Euan definitely prefers working in Scotland for sure, and its a big part of our life here so understandably its having a huge influence on our decision making! It could be different in Adelaide... he's just not certain it would change that much. I completely agree with your comment about beaches and weather - right now it does feel like thats whats keeping us here, but also the outdoor lifestyle for our kids - ahhhh it's going to be so hard!
@@kimberleylucas ah thank you. I'm totally invested in your journey, and I sooo want you all to be happy. It's easier for my brother as he was just one person on his own, he doesn't have a wife or children, so when he moved to Perth, he just packed a bag and left. Plus his accommodation is provided in the mines, but i know it's not as easy for you. Anyway, keep going, hopefully better days are ahead, x
I know 😂 I'm sorry about this. I did think we should re do it but then I remembered i have 2 kids and quality time is already very sparse so I accepted it and posted it out there 😂 next time will be better!
Sounds like he needs a new job. Construction managers are some of the best paid people in the country. Not sure why Civil engineer is such a punish here, never known anyone in the position. But sounds like he would he able to move into another position and move to Brisbane, Sunshine all year round. You couldn't pay the average Aussie to move to Adelaide! Don't do that 😅 Such is life
Your husband has a great smile lol. This ruined your video for me Kimberley looks like he would not be happy anywhere he went. The first question you asked him and he said "NO" well that's a great start isn't it. With an attitude like that your not going to get many likes that's for sure, I thought that type of attitude was british not scottish? What a barrel of laughs he is and so entertaining pfft!
Being forced to do videos with me is definitely not his idea of fun 😅 he's answering questions you all ask me to ask him and giving honest answers. He works 90% of his time in Australia so if he isn't happy then of course it's going to impact us all. I also didn't sign up to him working the hours he does. And the weekends.... I don't think many people would give an extra 40 hours per month to their workplace with no overtime pay....
Thanks for your reply Kimberley and explaining the situation I totally agree. I thought it was illegal in Australia to not get payed overtime rates? Just did a quick look and found this which is what I believed. How does overtime work in Australia? Overtime pay on a normal work day From Monday to Saturday, Australians receive time and a half for their first two hours of overtime (or 150% of their minimum hourly rate). For any additional hours, this increases to 200% of their minimum hourly rate. Unless I was getting ridiculous amounts of money I might turn a blind eye but otherwise I'd be telling the company to stick it. 🤣 I've actually got Scottish blood from my Mothers side both her parents Grandma and Grandad both named Mackenzie. Immigrated to Australia in 1841, both families,...go the Scots 👍 Maybe I should delete my original post cause now I feel bad.
Bloody hell! You have said such nasty comments previously, but still crawled back out from under your judgemental rock. Here's hoping you do finally f off for good now!
I watched you guys stress take a breather take too steps. Back. Don’t rush you can self stress if things get hard don’t rush in to talk about it. In moderation that stops the stress.be more layback that’s what aussies Do you will make it. Hang in there stay strong and focas. Do every thing layback
This is practically word for word how we feel too. My husband is in the same industry and our challenges are very similar re work, visa, childcare costs, support etc. It’s such a hard decision as there are also so many positives here like you say. Wishing you the best in making the right one for your family. X
its SO hard, i completely sympathise with you because i'm so torn. All i would say is nothing has to be forever - it's also not permanent so you can always change your decision if you really hate something. I wish you all the best too! x
Having moved from South Africa to UK, I’ve experienced the same in that finding a lot of challenges with living in UK (weather playing a massive factor as don’t quite realise how much of an impact weather has on one’s lifestyle) with that being said financial impact and affordability is also massive.
Now been 3 years in UK and don’t feel settled(don’t have kids yet)
Thinking of Australia - it seems a stunning place if one can earn enough and keep costs like childcare down. Thinking what about pushing through and getting PR to alleviate some of the financial burden of childcare, etc. Then can explore more and move location if needed. Once you have PR you can possibly also get work and things will change a lot for the better. It’s just this period which is very challenging. I wouldn’t make any rushed decisions off emotions.
Could also explore some business ideas to supplement income…
In addition, if the kids have AUS passports, that’ll open a lot of doors for them too and their futures.
Can always return to UK but not easy to return to AUS and go through the visa process again.
NSW looks rather costly. Queensland, Adelaide and WA look bit more affordable in terms of daily living…
There’s no silver bullet and every country has its pros and cons…
Living an outdoor lifestyle and as a child growing up with sunshine and play areas and paddle boards on the ocean, etc - it sounds so unreal
Thanks for the honest and insightful video. Just moved to Melbourne this week from Belfast and London and these kinds of videos are great!
ive known a lot of people move to Australia and after x amount of years gone back to the uk only to return back a few years later. i done it myself. i lasted less than 2 years in London. i just couldn't afford to live. yeah having my extended family and old school friends was great but peoples lives were changing and i felt my life wasnt. so 2010 i finally called Australia home. every few years i head back to London for a catch up and few beers and that does me. you need to give it time. its hard not having that social connection with family and friends but you also got to remember that it is a changing world that we live in and to make new friends is even more difficult. join a meet up group. also geelong in Victoria is a great place to live. very similar in Ireland.
I watched you guys stress take a breather take too steps. Back. Don’t rush you can self stress if things get hard don’t rush in to talk about it. In moderation that stops the stress.be more layback that’s what aussies Do you will make it. Hang in there stay strong and focas. Do every thing layback
I understand the strong pull for you to return to the familiar and the support of your family, you have so much to consider. Just remember though that once you settle in a town and start your kids at a local school you WILL find long term friends. Neighbours and the parents of your kids friends will become like family. Other people, including Aussies, feel isolated at times and are looking out to connect too. Wherever you choose to live, I think that during the next 5-10 years of your children's lives, it is important to be settled. You definitely can make a happy life for yourself in Australia and you would be making a great contribution to the future of our country if you decided to stay. Australia is built on immigrants finding their way in a new country so you are in good company. I hope that you try to stay but understand what's calling you home. Either way you've been very brave and have experienced a great challenge and adventure. Good luck!
Loved watching your journey. Looking forward to seeing your next video and what you decide on doing ❤
Thank you for sticking around :)
Great honest vlog kimbo. Takes alot of courage to do what you and your husband have done over the past 18 months, especially with two little ones, with minimal support. I think your kids have made up your mind in terms of if you stay in Australia or move back to the UK. Not a bad thing at all, at least you can say you give it a go. Wishing you and your family the very best for the future, whatever decision you make!!!👍👍
Thank you for being so frank and open. It might be worth considering investing in PR because more benefits would be available now and, for a few years at least, it would be easier to return to Australia (even easier with citizenship). I see how difficult life is as a family on a 482 visa compared to a 190. I also see how you are missing friends and family. But the long term economic and social prospects are far better in Australia than a UK which has serious and long term economic issues. Just consider getting a Doctor's appointment there. And think about a dark and cold night in November or February. I used to go to the UK twice a year for 10 days to see my elderly parents. You get used to it and the fare I paid in 1997 was the same in 2022! But whatever you do good luck.
Hi there, good to see you again. Was concerned about you after the last vlog. Whatever you decide, I wish you all the best. Would love to have you in Adelaide, but we went to WA this year, and it's absolutely beautiful, and there are lots of people from the UK, and you might find it easier to find people who are on the same journey. All the best!!!!
i've heard lots of nice things about Perth, unfortunately it's not been an option for us - we tried! )
Thank you for your video and the honesty you demonstrate. It must feel good having family here on a visit. Tough decisions for you both and I feel for you.
It struck me as you talked that I am unsure about your primary motivation in coming to Australia- was it to have an adventure in a different country with better weather and a beach lifestyle and to just experience that, enjoy and perhaps see if you want that long term? If so, a temporary visa makes some sense. The difficulty with the temporary visa, as you have experienced, is that you don’t receive the benefits of permanent residency and are kind of tied to an employer (who sounds like they are ensuring they get the maximum benefit from the arrangement). It probably wouldn’t matter so much if you were a young couple without children as you could both work, be financially comfortable, able to travel more on weekends or short breaks while you were here and have more of an adventurous life as a couple doing things together.
However, if your primary motivation was to come and ‘likely’ put down roots, then it would have been best to come with permanent residency, be able to choose your employer, change employers without difficulty and receive the benefits of childcare subsidy, free school, housing purchase help etc. While a permanent visa costs upfront and you don’t usually have an employer to pay some of the relocation costs, there are the ongoing benefits of permanency which accompany that initial outlay and cover the initial outlay quite quickly. That is how the Australian immigration system is structured with the two broad categories of work visas (whether we agree with it or not).
Then there is what I think of as the separate issue of missing your family and support system and creating a new friendship or support group. I think everyone has a different tolerance and approach with these two issues and only the two of you can gauge the impact of this on you individually and as a couple. Previous life experiences can sometimes help with gauging one’s response but not always, especially if this is the first time you have experienced prolonged separation from your exisiting support group. I think this factor is so important for some individuals that it completely overrides the type of visa you come on. However, if you combine this factor with the temporary visa disadvantages for those with children, then you are facing challenges on multiple levels.
On another note, I know a couple of civil engineers who are not expected to work those kind of hours consistently so there are jobs around in this profession with better working conditions. One of them is now self employed as a consulting engineer and the other works in a managerial role with a government body.
Whatever you decide, I do sincerely wish you happiness and a sense of peace with your decision.
❤🙏🏻
Such an honest perspective. Depending on your visa, your family should be eligible for citizenship in just two and a half years. After taking such a leap by moving to Australia in the first instance, I think you should hold out for at least four years as it will keep options open for a lifetime. I would encourage you to take a long term view before making your decision. I'm sure when you decided to move, you done so with the hope that it would improve your family's quality of life for decades. Bumps on the road are to be expected. For selfish reasons I would like you to stay. As a 24 year old Scot keen on moving to Australia in a couple of years, I enjoy watching your videos above all others.
I think this would be an amazing thing to give the kids Australian citizenship.
I wish someone would have asked them do they think their outlook would be different if they had moved as a couple and not as a family, or if the kids were older? It would give a good insight for people looking to move who don’t have a family.
@@BellaBella284 I can answer that for you now - yes, it would have been different if we were a couple. Two incomes, living in an apartment in sydney - travelling around, lounging on the beach - absolutely! what couple wouldn't choose that over Scotland? However we have two beautiful children who at the very least need happy parents - not stressed out, tired, and anxious parents or a daddy that isn't around as much as he was in scotland. I would like them to be settled in their home in stead of worrying that we will be given a months notice to find a new rental because our landlords want to increase our rent each week. hope that helps with that question - i'm always happy to give advice :)
i'm unsure of your personal circumstances but at 24 years old i ABSOLUTELY encourage you to come to Australia and give it a go! I wish i had done this when I was younger - it will be the best thing you do! It will be a completely different experience at your age :) go for it!!!
@@kimberleylucasYou moved further away from his work place, no landlord can increase rent weekly! He has a contract to fulfill and then you can be more settled and find jobs? It's never enough, why is that exactly?
@jenniferharrison8915 do you live in Australia? 😂 they absolutely can increase your rent, it's happened to 2 people I know already and the reason they are having to find new homes. Just greed.
We moved to be CLOSER to my husbands work? Unfortunately he will never have a fixed place of work so do you suggest we continue moving each time he starts on a new project? It's not that easy with 2 young children unfortunately. My daughter starts school in January and that's not fair on her.
Finally, would you work 2 extra hours per day for free? :)
You guys would love the Sunny coast! There are suburbs classed as regional that are actually only 20 min drive from the beach so that could always be an option for you. I would definitely recommend moving out of NSW as Sydney prices will affect your cost of living. I hope you do stay as you’ve been through a tough ride but it’ll all smooth out soon!
Thanks for this, sunshine Coast looks lovely too 😊
Sending my love to you and your family and things will be cheaper when you become a permanent resident. Best of luck ♥️
Thank you ❤
Never regreted my return to the UK ❤❤❤Sending love xxx❤️
I really appreciate this comment thank you.❤ xx
Hello both from the (yes sunny!) U.K, I'm so glad you posted, I was waiting in anticipation for your Q&A! It's always nice to hear from both of you. I've been watching your journey from the very start (still not even sure how it popped up!) I feel you are torn, only you can make the decision that's right for you of course. I just wonder if when you have PR, child care cost reduce, different less expensive area etc that you will finally feel settled more. Also, once you have tried that and given it some time then you can make a fully informed decision? Honestly, the weather isn't that bad here, its currently beautiful sunny and autumnal with a glorious wealth of colours in the trees. There is so much to do with kids here too, I can say hand on heart, that the U.K is very family orientated especially compared to America (where my hubby is from) there 10 days leave a yr is normal, bloody awful! I adore Australia though, it has so much to give.
Whatever you decide, I just hope you are all happy. I lost my job recently after 15yrs in Childrens Social Care and I'm feeling adrift and scared myself. 4 people and a needy cat depend on me. I don't know what's ahead either.
Sending hugs, Love Jessie x 🧡
hello - i always smile when i see your comment! Thank you for your positivity - it definitely helps when we are feeling so torn. Honestly.... right now i'm not even thinking about the weather back home, just the people in it :) Home is what you make it and i think being so far away from family has made me realise what really matters. My kids having happy parents its the absolute minimum for me and right now i feel like they aren't getting our best versions and I absolutely hate that. I never hated home - we always knew this would be a 'lets give it a try' and thats exactly what we are doing! hopefully give you more of an update soon! sending you hugs - i'm so sorry about your job :( x
If Scotland had good weather is would be the best place to live in my opinion 😂 The weather is absolutely brutal! Having the comfort/support from loved ones when it’s pouring outside is a luxury though.
Everything seems to come with a sacrifice.
One thing I would say as a mum of 2 in Scotland is that your children will not always be so demanding. You won’t always need the kind of support you’re craving now. I think moving to give your kids a better future is a long game however you and Euan are important too. You’re doing something some people only dream of and regardless if you stay and it works out or you come home you will have grown so much.
While the cost of everything is going up in Scotland house prices are around 10% less than what they were selling 6 months ago. Or they are where I live.
Absolutely do not envy you for having to make this choice. All the best! X
love the quality of the video
thanks :)
I've been following your journey from the beginning Kimberley, but I stay quiet mostly. I personally think that you and your family would've been far better off in Western Australia, mostly because it's a lot more family orientated than the east coast is. I've traveled Aus, and found that people on the east coast, as nice as they are, stay pretty well much to themselves, or their small circle of friends. Whereas here in the west, we mix a lot more with new people, especially when you have young kids. We have quite a large population of Scottish, English and Irish in my area (Mandurah, Rockingham), which would also help you guys to settle I think. Good luck with trying to decide what's next for you all, I wish you all the very best ❤
I agree… I would have loved to watch them move to WA. I’ve been hoping that’s what they would do rather than considering Adelaide. However I do wish them all the best, I’ve loved watching their journey 🩷
Hi Kimberley 😊
I know how much rent can eat into anyone’s budget, especially renting houses in the Sydney/Central Coast area of NSW.
Have you considered downsizing to a 2 bedroom flat/unit? Especially since the kids are still so young and could share a room with double bunk beds.
Once you have PR (just a matter of time) so childcare costs are alleviated, your outlook may be very different.
I’ve been watching and following your Australian adventure from the start and I can’t help wondering if all the house moves have impacted your quality of life.
It’s only been 18 months and you’ve moved 5x or more!
That would do anyone’s head in 😢
Wishing you both all the best. 🙏
You seem to fit in here more than you realise, just a few normal, albeit aggravating, life issues 🤷♀️
Take care 😊❤
Thank you for your comment - we have considered a few different options and hopefully will confirm our decision soon! Thank you for your support :)
It’s not easy living next to the beach. The life style is amazing. If you got a good job Australia was cheap to live next to beach but the prises went up because a lot off people what to move to the beach it has very high value
You’re absolutely right. I think it’s something everyone should consider when deciding to move somewhere.
If the weather is to humid move to Melbourne. Especially if you work outside.
Is there any chance that with the Christmas school holidays coming up, could you maybe come over to Adelaide for a holiday to see what you think of the place and look around. If you can apply for PR after 2 1/2 years, you are so close to that time, wouldn’t it be worth waiting and trying to get that, before making the decision of going back to Scotland. By the way we have lovely children’s playgrounds in Adelaide too and beautiful beaches. More affordable city to live in too.
Go wherever makes you happy. People can tell you the UK is a mess, you can still find your spot, surrounded by your community and people that make you feel good. Nowhere is perfect, it's easy to see the sunshine and beaches as many do and think life will be better- that's not the case for everyone. Australia has it's issues too and I do wonder if people actually look at the politics in Oz that make the move. They just find a bubble. My hubby and I work with the community and it's so sad, the comments I see people making about the UK and the issues are happening here in Oz too!!
We love both places but being settled, being happy is a big priority. Australia will always be here. I don't think people realise how many end up going home!!
Life is an adventure. Yes Scotland isn't known for it's sunshine 😂 it's only weather at the end of the day!
As someone also from Scotland - This place isn’t the place you left 18 months ago. If I was you I would try and find happiness in Australia, try a different state.
I was in Scotland 8 weeks ago :)
@@BellaBella284 I totally agree with you, the UK is in real trouble. I moved to Ireland 11 years ago, and God it was so hard for the first two years, but there were better days to come, and I'm still here. I'd never go back to UK now,
@@teamclarke6999 Ahhh did you move to Ireland from Scotland?! i didn't know this - where about???
@@kimberleylucas I know, but with respect a short visit round family and friends isn’t the same. There are scary things going on round here, town centres are chock full of new faces and if I had a viable alternative for my kids to grow up somewhere safer I would take it.
@@kimberleylucas oh no, I moved from Manchester to Ireland, sorry. I was just agreeing with this comment. as I say to my brother, don't ever think that the UK is going to get any better, you left it behind for a reason. But I know you have a really big pull with your family and support network. X
To be honest I have watched your vlogs ever since you arrived and never at any time have I had any confidence that you would be staying In Australia permanently.. Your hearts are obviously still in Scotland and you are never really going to be happy until you are back home, I think you would be less stressed if you finally made that call and accepted that this was only a temporary move, set an end date and then enjoyed the time that you had left here. Once you make that call I,m sure that the stress levels would drop away, what is the point of trying to stay and get a PR or even an Australian passport if you are not convinced that this will be your home.. As an Aussie I dont see much point in trying to convince immigrants that they should stay here they really need to decide whether they want to be part of this nations future or not. Along with my young family I lived and worked in a number of different countries around the world we loved the life experiences but the big difference was that we knew each of those moves was temporary and after a year or two we would be going back home...Good luck with whichever decision you make at worst you at least gave it go..
Hi Kimberley, if you make the decision to return I know the sunshine will seem a big miss. However, have you considered a holiday cottage abroad in Europe (or even siteing a large caravan in one of the beautiful parks within in Europe? We have been crossing regularly to Europe since our return. If you use the ferries they are cheap and motorways brilliant. We still have sunshine on our doorstep (virtually )to get our 'fix' of sun lol Sending you all love ❤🦘🦘🦘🦘🦘
I think when you move so far from home you appreciate that weather really isn't everything. The UK is lucky to have Europe on its doorstep. My mum has a home in Spain so I would be getting a good few trips in there 😅😅😅 x
@@kimberleylucas wonderful ❤️
Adelaide is much more affordable. Seen some lovely homes there 3-4 bed with a pool for under £300k UK.
I hate moving home I’ll be honest with you. It’s such a massive stress!
moving full stop is a massive stress! :(
Chiming in from Perth WA (my wife is from the UK & i was born & bred in WA). It is pity you did not move to direct to Perth from Scotland as it is far more family orientated and more relaxed lifestyle as not the heavy traffic & dense population like the east coast so housing & living costs are cheaper and standard of housing is much better as more modern & our beaches are better than the east coast. Many Scots,Irish, Poms have settled here (we call it little Britain especially down Rockinham/Mandurah way and in the northern coastal suburbs from Ocean Reef up the Yanchep.
Civil Engineering jobs are a plenty over here, Housing is way cheaper than the east coast so do you homework and reach out to anyone you may know that is living over here to discuss direct with them. My wife absolutely loves it here and could never go back to the UK except for a holiday which we did in May for a wedding and then tripped around Europe for 3 weeks but it was so nice to get back home to our wide open spaces (UK/Europe is way too crowded & too busy & expensive these days).
Better beaches is a real stretch!!! Outside Perth the beaches are impressive but Perth are just run of the mill ordinary compared to the best parts of NSW and QLD! 😅
Hello I been watching you for sometime like many whom come to Australia from the UK yes it far about in 2024 how hard is it. The one thing I am talking about is family. Nowadays you are only click away from family friends whom you left behind. My Adopted Mother's family also came from the UK In the 1950s and now she gone bless her soul. Yet it would be even harder because there was only letter writing and a phone calls. Now my Aunt is the only one that still lives and she quite happy being here and Australian.
You're right, it's amazing to be just a click away from everyone, but it doesn't take away the feeling of missing them
Hope you are feeling better as well with family visiting Kimberley? I appreciate your honesty in how the immigration journey has been for your family.
Something in me wants to add that Ewan is allowed to ‘defend’ his contract hours. I don’t know how his work is, and of course I can’t say anything on it.
I just feel like a contact on 38 hours can’t be 50 hours in realtime, there has to be a way to ‘fight’ that. Isn’t there a union or something to ask? Anyway, again, you probably have thought about this a million times so excuse my forwardness. Hope he can look at options to find a fairer work environment, that’ll lift some pressures off the family as a whole.
I hope you find the best solution for yous and can be content in the choice 😊😘
Hello, lovely to hear from you again :) Euan has raised many times that his hours are WILDLY different from his contract but unfortunately it seems to be just expected now, and all his team seem to do the same. I really feel for him as its time that he could be home with us and instead he is working (for free!) .... so this has a huge impact on us all and its very difficult. I'm not sure this would really change even moving to another state/company. I think this is where my concern lies right now. Time will tell im sure :)
What trade is Euan in? Just curious. I’m a trucker and my wife is a senior accountant.
he's a civil engineer :)
We currently live by the beach now in Crosby, Liverpool, UK. We want to move near the beach if we can afford too.
I’m so sorry it’s been such a struggle. It would massively help if you had some family or friends out there with you for support. We are lucky enough that we have some family out there already but we will likely still be a few hours away from them to start with until we get PR and are free to move nearer to them. We will likely have to be somewhere regional. Our family are in Brisbane.
Many people come here and embrace the opportunity fully, because they are genuinely open to face every day life, not some idealistic fantasy! Australia is far more than a beach and shopping! It is normal to start small and grow!
We miss you guys. My Isla is desperate for a play date if you are around ❤❤
absolutely! my phone is out of charge so i'm sorry i haven't replied! I'll message you tomorrow and we can arrange something soon! Isla would love that :) x
Sounds lovely. Can't wait to see you again❤
Before you make any decision, go back and watch your leaving Scotland video to remind yourself of your feelings back then.
In my opinion, while the Visa you came out on provided an instant job, it appears that the employer has exploited your position and this is making for the poor work life balance, also many people in the same position have a much better work life balance.
In addition this Visa has precluded you from PR, made childcare and school unaffordable and precluded you from owning a home before prices sky rocketed. In the end you have to follow your heart as there us no point feeling miserable. Good luck with your decision.
if you are not happy in the central coast .... good luck finding a better place . adelaide might be cheaper but its cheaper for a reason. do your research and ask adelaide folks.
that town can get hotter than sydney . seems to me its all about $$ .
I think people emigrating here now you need a lot of Money to survive I wouldn’t move to another state , you do what is right for you guys. 🤗🥰
This is very true. It was a lot easier and cheaper before covid. Many people have told me this and a lot have returned home because of it. I appreciate your comment. Thank you ❤
Im Aussie, so from what I can tell you have moved as a family on a minimalist visa - a work sponsorship as against applying to immigrate with full PR rights - these decision's have consequences, as you found out you are not entitled to subsidised child care. due to being work sponsored. This route is one of the most difficult and this is why you are finding it hard financially adjust and also seem fixed on living right on a beach environment whereas most Aussies know beach property is expensive that's why we have swimming pools etc and make our houses in the suburbs like a mini resort.
from what I can work out, even if we were on a PR visa route - we wouldn't get that much from CCS. School fees yes, but CCS wouldn't decrease that much unfortunately which i just find wild. Childcare should be a lot less for everyone - then people would be able to get back to work quicker & for longer etc. I understand your comment about beach properties, but we also didn't want to pay an extra $100 per month for a pool cleaner haha! We are just trying it all out to figure which we prefer :)
Whose paying for the childcare the tax payer it's not an endless pit in Australia you know with a small working population and high ageing population ...even with PR there are waiting periods for any welfare and CCS and FTb are still welfare not an entitlement @@kimberleylucas
Truly. It is time to go home. The family is there and friends. But you are not living for the family and friends. You are living for YOUR family. The children should come first and foremost in this decision. I have never moved that far. So it is not coming from someone in your position. You have to make the decision now for the children to have a settled life. They need the time to make friends. Whatever you do I wish you the best whether here or back in Scotland. Just an opinion.
Hypothetical Q. If you won lotto next week, what would you do?
employ someone to deal with all my difficult youtube comments :)
@@kimberleylucas Hahaha. Good onya Kimbo. That shut me up. ❤️❤️❤️ one each and a handshake for You and.
all country towns are cliqy
I can see you're both really torn, and it looks to me like you're really trying to stay and not give up without a fight, but you're lacking support. But Isla and Ren won't always be small and you won't always need help with them. But it looks like Euan would prefer to be in Scotland, and that's understandable, he's having to put in some serious graft to just break even. If the only thing he will miss is the weather, Is that really enough to make you stay? You'll know what to do, you're there ones living that life and making sacrifices. I look forward to your next video to see what decision you've made, best of luck, I'm rooting for you both ❤️
Always lovely to see you commenting! Thank you for sticking around!! Euan definitely prefers working in Scotland for sure, and its a big part of our life here so understandably its having a huge influence on our decision making! It could be different in Adelaide... he's just not certain it would change that much. I completely agree with your comment about beaches and weather - right now it does feel like thats whats keeping us here, but also the outdoor lifestyle for our kids - ahhhh it's going to be so hard!
@@kimberleylucas ah thank you. I'm totally invested in your journey, and I sooo want you all to be happy. It's easier for my brother as he was just one person on his own, he doesn't have a wife or children, so when he moved to Perth, he just packed a bag and left. Plus his accommodation is provided in the mines, but i know it's not as easy for you. Anyway, keep going, hopefully better days are ahead, x
with accent and wind i cant hear what you are saying. i lasted 5 minutes . good luck. do whats best for the kids.
I know 😂 I'm sorry about this. I did think we should re do it but then I remembered i have 2 kids and quality time is already very sparse so I accepted it and posted it out there 😂 next time will be better!
Sounds like he needs a new job. Construction managers are some of the best paid people in the country. Not sure why Civil engineer is such a punish here, never known anyone in the position. But sounds like he would he able to move into another position and move to Brisbane, Sunshine all year round. You couldn't pay the average Aussie to move to Adelaide! Don't do that 😅 Such is life
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Your husband has a great smile lol. This ruined your video for me Kimberley looks like he would not be happy anywhere he went. The first question you asked him and he said "NO" well that's a great start isn't it. With an attitude like that your not going to get many likes that's for sure, I thought that type of attitude was british not scottish? What a barrel of laughs he is and so entertaining pfft!
Being forced to do videos with me is definitely not his idea of fun 😅 he's answering questions you all ask me to ask him and giving honest answers. He works 90% of his time in Australia so if he isn't happy then of course it's going to impact us all. I also didn't sign up to him working the hours he does. And the weekends.... I don't think many people would give an extra 40 hours per month to their workplace with no overtime pay....
Thanks for your reply Kimberley and explaining the situation I totally agree. I thought it was illegal in Australia to not get payed overtime rates? Just did a quick look and found this which is what I believed.
How does overtime work in Australia?
Overtime pay on a normal work day
From Monday to Saturday, Australians receive time and a half for their first two hours of overtime (or 150% of their minimum hourly rate). For any additional hours, this increases to 200% of their minimum hourly rate.
Unless I was getting ridiculous amounts of money I might turn a blind eye but otherwise I'd be telling the company to stick it. 🤣
I've actually got Scottish blood from my Mothers side both her parents Grandma and Grandad both named Mackenzie. Immigrated to Australia in 1841, both families,...go the Scots 👍
Maybe I should delete my original post cause now I feel bad.
@@kimberleylucasI thought this bit was hilarious 😂 I loved his honesty and straight to the point! And you can tell it’s genuine!
@@kimberleylucaskeep doing you, Kim. Love your honesty. Xxx
G'day Kimbo and family. I have been on your team since you arrived in Aust. I don't care anymore. Take the children home and be miserable.
What a dick you are.
Bloody hell! You have said such nasty comments previously, but still crawled back out from under your judgemental rock. Here's hoping you do finally f off for good now!
LOL
I'm so with you!
Gosh, is there any need for that?
I watched you guys stress take a breather take too steps. Back. Don’t rush you can self stress if things get hard don’t rush in to talk about it. In moderation that stops the stress.be more layback that’s what aussies Do you will make it. Hang in there stay strong and focas. Do every thing layback