I did some research and came across a post draft evaluation of Pastrnak in the Bleacher Report. He was definitely seen as a potential elite scorer in the NHL, but the concerns were 1) Could he adapt to a different style of game in the NHL compared to the Czech Republic and Sweden where he was playing before?, 2) a tendency to disappear in tighter checking games, which are more common here than in Europe and 3) his size. Here is the quote from the article: "At 5'10" and weighing 165 pounds, there's just no way for the shifty forward to be competitive against the larger, meaner and faster players that populate the league." That does seem a bit harsh to me. Hindsight is always 20/20. There were some European hits in that first round and some busts. I don't think the Panthers, Oilers , Leafs and Red Wings regret their picks. It has to be infuriating for rooters of the Canucks who drafted another European right winger who turned out to be a bust and then took McCann right before Pastrnak.
It makes me crazy when these FOOLS talk too small! Many of the best players in the game are “small!” Crosby is under 6’ although 200 lbs, McDavid is under 200 pounds, Kutcherov is listed at 5’10” 185, Patrick Kane, Brad Marchand, the 3 Hughes bros, Panarin 175, Pettersson in Van 175 at 6’2” he looks like a hockey stick!, Marner 180, Point 5’10” 175…most of these guys are top 15 in points right now. This size bs is just that…bs!
@@NewDesignVinylGraphicsI’d think you could even make a case for Ekblad at 4th. Reinhart has been stellar the last few years but Ekblad is a solid top pairing D man.
Pekka Rinne will always be the best value pick in the modern league to me. Starting four-time All star netminder, taken in the 8th round pick 258. One of the leagues only goalies to have a goal stat as well!
@@chadlevitan7886 their 2008 cup run squad is easily one of my favorite rosters of all time. Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterburg, Chelios & Kronwall + many many more. Than behind them was Osgood, Jimmy Howard & Hašek between the pipes!? Holy mackerel what a team.
@@alexei1195 I was spoiled enough to be a Wings fan of around 8-10 yo when the Wings won their 90's championships, and then get the 02 and 08 ones on top. I love all those teams for different reasons. Pekka was a monster though too! Huge and athletic and technical. Kinda the ideal modern goalie.
Although there were some very good players in this draft…Ekblad was a solid choice…Pasternak is ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT the 2nd best player from it, can’t go wrong either way with Pasternak and Draisaitl at #1 and 2. It was a pretty damn good draft year that’s for sure!
I am sure that most teams in the top 10 would keep the picks they had, besides the NHL history has a boat load of late picks (Patrick Roy 51st) or non picks (Martin Saint Louis, never drafted) that have done way better than the previous picks, Pastrnak is just 1 of many.
larkin is one of if not the most underrated player from that draft without him its been proven the red wings dont do well hes the heart and soul of the team put him on other stacked teams and hed esily get 80+ points a season
Hindsight being what it is I think the only player who should have gone before Pasta is Draisaial….. but then that would make him a Buffalo Sabre so I’m fine with him going at #25
@@beyond_thebench listen… this video is fantastic. your editing is fire, narration is great, the overall execution was fantastic because there aren’t that many videos of this length that I watch all the way through. I simply disagree with the core argument of the video. A steal can’t happen in the first round, unless it involves a team literally putting themselves in a position to draft even higher than they were originally supposed to. the Boston Bruins had no way of drafting anyone else before this pick, and there were obviously even some teams that hadn’t made theirs yet. That’s a really privileged position to be in for you to still call it a steal. I’m not saying a steal has to be a 17th rounder hall of famer every time, but the lines are not so blurred that your incredible video is gonna convince me you’re right on this one lol. have a good one
@@ground.jordan Totally fair man! Appreciate the kind words! Was more of recap on the players who went before Pasta. “Steal” is definitely thrown around a little loose here for sure
Yes. You are clueless. A late 1st round pick who became an elite superstarer is a HUGE steal. Do you not realize most late 1sts only become depth players or worse? Getting an elite player as late as 24 is massive steal.
@@alessandroscuderi7300 99% of the ENTIRE draft EVERY YEAR will never go on to see meaningful ice time in an NHL game. that’s the hard truth. there are only so many available spots within the 32 teams at any given point in time. that also goes for people selected above 24th. when the 191st overall pick doesn’t go on to have an elite career, we don’t call that a bust. similarly, when the 24th overall pick is putting up team leading numbers, they’re not suddenly a steal. they were chosen in the first fkn round! honestly, if we’re being completely fair here, anybody who contributes in any meaningful way to a team’s season could be viewed as a steal. it’s one way or the other. besides, the videos creator already admitted that they threw the term around kinda loosely. it’s a textbook case of clickbait, which I can completely respect. but let’s not act like 24th overall is ever truly a STEAL. I mean it’s not like the other teams didn’t know about Pasta! they just gambled on somebody else. and it worked out for some of them, too.
So has it been long enough to say the first 2 picks of this draft were kinda flops? Ekblad and Reinhart are good, don’t get me wrong, but when dudes like Draisaitl, Nylander and Pastrnak are floating around, they’re a bit underwhelming to be taken that high.
Dal colle no. 4? i saw him play as a gennie. Dude just lumbered around out there, never got involved or could make players better. Once hockey canada cut dal colle that was the flag to avoid him. Had a terrible return to jrs. including last season split between gennies/fronts. Isles could have taken willie n., eihlers, fiala, even pastarnak instead of dal colle. Total bust pick by snow.
One of the biggest draft steals in NHL history? Call me biased but my Wings drafted Lidstrom in the 2nd, Zetterberg in the 6th and Datsyuk in the 7th if I’m not mistaken…
Obviously in hindsight, he probably would go first. I know if it was my decision I would have rather had him on the Canucks that both Virtanen AND McCann.
Not seeing pastrnaks greatness.yup he can shoot skate and hes got some moves but hes as soft as a sneaker full of💩.HE DOES NOT COMPETE FOR THE PUCK PERIOD.if hes got the puck he s not gonna have it very long ,either a one timer or the opposing players will simply take it from him like a child .in short hes big money and a liability .rareley does he perform in games that really count.most overated player in hockey
What's interesting to note is that picks 1, 2, and 4 are teammates on the Panthers now.
And also, Nick Ritchie moved to Germany.
Pretty sure he was playing in Finland, suspended now but
@@beyond_thebench Nick Ritchie is now with the Iserlohn Roosters in the Deutsche Eishockey Liga (DEL).
@@ariccua6101 Nice didn’t know that! This is recently?
Ritchie didn't do much in Finland. He'll be remembered only from when he tried to beat a guy through the ice with his fists
@@beyond_thebenchhe has 7 games there. Funny thing is that Michael del Cole is his teammate now
Definitely not an Oilers fan but I am sure they are quite happy with Leon.
VERY happy! Haha
He is a product of mcdavid.
It's the greatest thing Mctavish ever did for the oilers (as a non player)
I did some research and came across a post draft evaluation of Pastrnak in the Bleacher Report. He was definitely seen as a potential elite scorer in the NHL, but the concerns were 1) Could he adapt to a different style of game in the NHL compared to the Czech Republic and Sweden where he was playing before?, 2) a tendency to disappear in tighter checking games, which are more common here than in Europe and 3) his size. Here is the quote from the article: "At 5'10" and weighing 165 pounds, there's just no way for the shifty forward to be competitive against the larger, meaner and faster players that populate the league." That does seem a bit harsh to me.
Hindsight is always 20/20. There were some European hits in that first round and some busts. I don't think the Panthers, Oilers , Leafs and Red Wings regret their picks. It has to be infuriating for rooters of the Canucks who drafted another European right winger who turned out to be a bust and then took McCann right before Pastrnak.
Great break down my friend!
It makes me crazy when these FOOLS talk too small! Many of the best players in the game are “small!” Crosby is under 6’ although 200 lbs, McDavid is under 200 pounds, Kutcherov is listed at 5’10” 185, Patrick Kane, Brad Marchand, the 3 Hughes bros, Panarin 175, Pettersson in Van 175 at 6’2” he looks like a hockey stick!, Marner 180, Point 5’10” 175…most of these guys are top 15 in points right now. This size bs is just that…bs!
Pastrnak is 6’0’’ not 5’10’’
@@Ronykopov Does anybody trust official measurements tho? Haha
@@Ronykopov Really irrelevant and nit picky. That was 10 years ago.
Bruins are savage at drafting. Bergeron and Marchand also at 45 and 71.
They were savage then ? They became what in 2015 ?
Unless "savage" mean "lucky". sorry 'bout that.
They got lucky on a couple, but the Bruins are generally dog crap at drafting.
@@Drekulviin Lol almost everyone on the team has been drafted and developed. Unlike with 99% of teams.
@@RickB1792 I mean if its not their drafting thats on point then its the development. The entire team is basically in house drafted and developed.
@@ExplorationRandomDestination HAHAHAHA on 22 players 12 were acquired by trade or signed. That's 55% Almost everyone? You over exagerate.
Pretty underrated draft tbh
Ya not bad eh!
Great job on this video. Enjoyed it very much!
Thanks! Are you a Bruins fan?
@@beyond_thebench Penguins fan 🐧
@@generalfenixNice! Tough year but Sid is the man!
Wicked video man. You just earned a new subscriber 👍🏻😀
Appreciate it!! Welcome to the channel, lots more to come! 🤘🏼
Datsyuk. Hands down the best steal ever in the draft
Oh ya big time! Him and Zetts
@@beyond_thebenchDon’t forget Lidstrom was a 2nd round pick.
pavelski was pretty late goated pick too
Zetterberg…
Jari Krri was drafted 69th overall...1 251 games with 601+797=1 398 points and 5 Stanley Cups.
Very well made video. Can’t wait to see your next one
Thank u!!
#1 Draisaitl
#2 Pasta
#3 Willy
Definitely!
Ekblad still top 5?
Draisaitl
Pastrnak
Nylander
Reinhart
Ekblad
@@NewDesignVinylGraphicsI’d think you could even make a case for Ekblad at 4th. Reinhart has been stellar the last few years but Ekblad is a solid top pairing D man.
Naw, bro. Pasta over Draisaitl. If Draistaitl didn't have McDavid, he'd be working at the Weinerschitzel taking your order
What happened to 134 players drafted before Kirill Kaprizov?
Working on that one too!
Great video!
Thank you!
Pekka Rinne will always be the best value pick in the modern league to me. Starting four-time All star netminder, taken in the 8th round pick 258. One of the leagues only goalies to have a goal stat as well!
Oh Pekka! Forgot about him. I feel like a lot of goalie greats come from late rounds. So hard to predict them.
@@beyond_thebench for sure! Some of the best goalies come from a random deep round pick.
Gotta throw Datsyuk and Zetterberg in there too. 171 and 210 overall respectively. Wings hit the jackpot with those two.
@@chadlevitan7886 their 2008 cup run squad is easily one of my favorite rosters of all time. Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Zetterburg, Chelios & Kronwall + many many more. Than behind them was Osgood, Jimmy Howard & Hašek between the pipes!? Holy mackerel what a team.
@@alexei1195 I was spoiled enough to be a Wings fan of around 8-10 yo when the Wings won their 90's championships, and then get the 02 and 08 ones on top. I love all those teams for different reasons. Pekka was a monster though too! Huge and athletic and technical. Kinda the ideal modern goalie.
Once again Kucherov at 58th and leading Tampa to 2 Stanley Cup rings not being talked about.
prolly shoulda been #'s 3-4 or 5
@@danielpaquet3963 Seriously? Kucherov would be #1 on every draft board unless McDavid is there too.
Working on a video for him as we speak 😎
Does 58 happen before the 24 players all the sudden? It’s strange this video didn’t mention Bobby Orr or Wayne Gretzky.
Although there were some very good players in this draft…Ekblad was a solid choice…Pasternak is ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT the 2nd best player from it, can’t go wrong either way with Pasternak and Draisaitl at #1 and 2. It was a pretty damn good draft year that’s for sure!
As a canucks fan......this hurts but knowing Jim he would have traded him away for 2 4liners
Yaaa not ideal! Haha
😂
Damn. This was a very good draft with some huge misses but mostly excellent first round
At the end of the day as a Leafs fan, i'm just glad that the Leafs picked Nylander over richie.😂
Amen! 😂
Rithcie isnt playing in Finland anymore. Hes contract was terminated some time ago.
Ya in Germany now right?
@@beyond_thebenchyeah, if I recall he did some fuck shit in liiga and is now in the DEL
Great video. But I’m not gonna lie the music drove me nuts the whole time
Thanks! Working on fixing that :)
Really good draft year in aftermath.
Totally!
I am sure that most teams in the top 10 would keep the picks they had, besides the NHL history has a boat load of late picks (Patrick Roy 51st) or non picks (Martin Saint Louis, never drafted) that have done way better than the previous picks, Pastrnak is just 1 of many.
Ya for sure, soooo many mid to late round gems
16:18 Bruh, that's Bo Horvat.
Woah incredible video. 24 teams missed out, thats for sure!
Thanks Mr.Colin!
Alot of these guys needed a change of scenery and it worked(Bennett, Reinhart, Tuch, ect)
Totally!
Oilers fan, I'm happy with our pick.
Big time happy haha
A pasta and McDavid line would be wild
Imagine, so nasty!
casually not mentioning draisaitl picking up a league mvp and beeing nr 1 (or 2?) in playoff scoring per game EVER ... :D great video overall though
Drai is the man - and thank you!
I'm sorry what...Ekblad has never hit 65 points. He has hit 68 and 71 PIMs.... but his career high in points is 57. Still an incredible defensemen.
Good catch! Typo in our script! Sorry about that
Anyone find it weird that 3 of the top 4 picks are now Panthers?
Worked out well for Florida ya!
What about, what happen to the 57 player drafted before kucherov ?
Literally dropping in a few days 😂
2 time stanley cup winner and 50 goal scorer brayden point
Goes Top 5 now for sure
How could do many teams not see???
Same reason Zetterberg was selected in the 7th rd.
Ya Zetterberg in the 7th was bonkers! Detroit knew how to draft!
larkin is one of if not the most underrated player from that draft without him its been proven the red wings dont do well hes the heart and soul of the team put him on other stacked teams and hed esily get 80+ points a season
Totally agree! Good Michigan lad who wants to win a cup in the motor city!
Hindsight being what it is I think the only player who should have gone before Pasta is Draisaial….. but then that would make him a Buffalo Sabre so I’m fine with him going at #25
Buffalo woulda found a way to ruin him haha
@@beyond_thebench it’s true
If you’re going to get one #1 draft pick in 40+ years you better get some steals
This is true!
was that Jumbo Joe?
Jared McCann was traded to the Leafs before the expansion draft because the Leafs did NOT Seattle to take Kerfoot away from them.
Ya they regret that haha
Love Pasta!
How can you not right!
Damnn that was a good draft I see why he got picked last butttt ITS PASTA!!
Crazy how Pasta dropped to 25. Steal of a pick indeed. That being said, I'd still probably go with Drai with the #1 pick if I had to redraft.
Definitely!
lmao Florida gobbling the top picks up... Collecting infinity stones.
😂
Are you seriously trying to tell me that someone who was drafted in the FIRST ROUND, is a steal?!?! lmao
Late first round steal - that’s a thing lol
@@beyond_thebench listen… this video is fantastic. your editing is fire, narration is great, the overall execution was fantastic because there aren’t that many videos of this length that I watch all the way through. I simply disagree with the core argument of the video. A steal can’t happen in the first round, unless it involves a team literally putting themselves in a position to draft even higher than they were originally supposed to. the Boston Bruins had no way of drafting anyone else before this pick, and there were obviously even some teams that hadn’t made theirs yet. That’s a really privileged position to be in for you to still call it a steal. I’m not saying a steal has to be a 17th rounder hall of famer every time, but the lines are not so blurred that your incredible video is gonna convince me you’re right on this one lol. have a good one
@@ground.jordan Totally fair man! Appreciate the kind words! Was more of recap on the players who went before Pasta. “Steal” is definitely thrown around a little loose here for sure
Yes. You are clueless. A late 1st round pick who became an elite superstarer is a HUGE steal. Do you not realize most late 1sts only become depth players or worse? Getting an elite player as late as 24 is massive steal.
@@alessandroscuderi7300 99% of the ENTIRE draft EVERY YEAR will never go on to see meaningful ice time in an NHL game. that’s the hard truth. there are only so many available spots within the 32 teams at any given point in time. that also goes for people selected above 24th. when the 191st overall pick doesn’t go on to have an elite career, we don’t call that a bust. similarly, when the 24th overall pick is putting up team leading numbers, they’re not suddenly a steal. they were chosen in the first fkn round! honestly, if we’re being completely fair here, anybody who contributes in any meaningful way to a team’s season could be viewed as a steal. it’s one way or the other. besides, the videos creator already admitted that they threw the term around kinda loosely. it’s a textbook case of clickbait, which I can completely respect. but let’s not act like 24th overall is ever truly a STEAL. I mean it’s not like the other teams didn’t know about Pasta! they just gambled on somebody else. and it worked out for some of them, too.
So has it been long enough to say the first 2 picks of this draft were kinda flops?
Ekblad and Reinhart are good, don’t get me wrong, but when dudes like Draisaitl, Nylander and Pastrnak are floating around, they’re a bit underwhelming to be taken that high.
Not flops, but I think if you redraft they dont go that high for sure
@@beyond_thebench fair
#1 Draisaitl #2 Pasta/Larkin
Larkin at 3? Not Nylander?
@@beyond_thebench I think Larkin's impact on the Red Wings is a lot more than Nylender's points
@@karel9267fair!
Larkin isnt even close to Pasta level
is the video created completely by AI?
Not at all!
nice @@beyond_thebench
If they knew then what they know now it woulda Drysitle#1 Pastrnak#2 or maybe even vice versa with Pastrnak going #1
Definitely!
I think the top 5 in hindsight discounting none 1st rounders would probably be:
1. Pasta
2. Drai
3. Nylander
4. Ekblad
5. Reinhart or Larkin
why is all the highlights against the Red Wings. i feel attacked.
😂
Can't say biggest draft steal as long as Panarin, Kuch and Kaprizov exist. 😂
Panarin wasn’t drafted
Nah Rinne and Daytsuk are both bigger steals.
Dal colle no. 4? i saw him play as a gennie. Dude just lumbered around out there, never got involved or could make players better. Once hockey canada cut dal colle that was the flag to avoid him. Had a terrible return to jrs. including last season split between gennies/fronts. Isles could have taken willie n., eihlers, fiala, even pastarnak instead of dal colle. Total bust pick by snow.
A lot of teams had big misses in that draft!
The Florida Panthers won the Draft. 3 of the Top 4 ended up there LOL
Crazy how that worked out!
Drai #1 then Pasta
Agree!
draisaitl earnd the 1 pick pasta is a great player but leons better
Is Leon as great without Connor tho…
Are you sure why does Pasta have more points on a team that scores less.
He is not better. He has mcdavid but pasta? What elite forward he has next to him?
@@idkwhat96Had Bergeron, Marchand. They’re no chumps!
@@beyond_thebench yeah but you cannot compare them to mcdavid lmao.
One of the biggest draft steals in NHL history? Call me biased but my Wings drafted Lidstrom in the 2nd, Zetterberg in the 6th and Datsyuk in the 7th if I’m not mistaken…
Not biased! Those are all bigger steals for sure haha
@@beyond_thebench Cool video though bro, no hate at all lol. Who’s your team?
@@ethankibbey1976Thanks! The Leafs…😂
You’re biased.
@@GooseGumlizzard multiple hall of famers, and a consensus top 3 defensemen of all time is biased!
Strong draft year. Nick Ritchie came to play my home town but he was fat and slow and get fired after he fight and then assault some player.
Oh wow, crazy!
pasta clearly should have went 2nd overall
Yup!
Wow pasta could have been picked by montreal
Thank god it didn't happen. Montreal struggles to develop players
@@idkwhat96 yeah you re right
Ya if he fell one spot they could have!
Has everyone forgotten Igor shesterkin a 4th round pick that won the Veznia trophy
Another good one!
Wasn't Kucherov was taken 59th overall? Pretty sure he's a way better player and taken later
He was indeed
This video is about the players drafted BEFORE 25th
Not even the best steal that year. Could make an argument that he was better than 19-24 and thats it.
What? Only player better in draft is Leon and that may not even be true anymore.
Quit using that stupid sound effect every time text pops up
😂 too much? Our bad, shall tone’r back!
Brayden Point went 79th OVR.
Pasternak first than Dylan Larkin 2
Larkin over Draisaitl and Nylander??
Leon is so much better than Larkin ...
Naaah bro, Larkin over Nylander, Drai and Ekblad is wild lol
Obviously in hindsight, he probably would go first. I know if it was my decision I would have rather had him on the Canucks that both Virtanen AND McCann.
Second or first ya. Hindsight is always 20/20!
Pasta isn’t that much of a steal lol😂
Maybe not the biggest steal EVER. But definitely a steal at 24th overall.
Not a steal at all. There were legitimate concerns with him coming out of the shl
@@zb9494 Doesn’t that make it a steal if a team gambles their first round pick on a player with “concerns”?
@@zb9494You don’t understand what a steal in this context means.
@@zb9494idk a player with the potential to finish his career with over 1000 points and 500+ goals is a steal to me
Can’t wait til we have a “what happened to the 16 players drafted ahead of Axel Sandin Pelikka” video 10 years from now
😭😭😭
Not even remotely close to the biggest steal in draft history. Not even sure it's a top 25 steal lmao.
There are bigger steals for sure! Who ya got??
Bro hates Boston lol
@@keenanrayne9170 😂
This individual has issues.
You must have autism
Now do Pavel Datsyuk
Totally! On the list for sure
Draisaitl at #1, Pasta at #2
Won’t argue with that!
Only bc he plays with Mcdavid.
Leon is better than David.
Would be interesting to see how Leon would do without Connor
Not seeing pastrnaks greatness.yup he can shoot skate and hes got some moves but hes as soft as a sneaker full of💩.HE DOES NOT COMPETE FOR THE PUCK PERIOD.if hes got the puck he s not gonna have it very long ,either a one timer or the opposing players will simply take it from him like a child .in short hes big money and a liability .rareley does he perform in games that really count.most overated player in hockey
Most overrated in hockey!? Bold haha
@@beyond_thebench how often does he win a scrum for the puck?
That annoying music...
You’re hearing is too good haha
All dead
Lol ya pretty much
Nylander is comparable to Pasta. Eckblad is a good defensemen but not elite
Ya Willy and Pasta are comparable for sure. Them and Drai would probably go top 3 if you were to redraft
?????? Leafs fans are absolutely hilarious wtf😂😂
Bros career high is 40 goals and never cracked 100 points are you sure that’s comparable or is it cuz they have the same number 💀
Theyre comparable, but Pasta has consistently out performed him thus far
@@supermegaguy666 marchant a better comp for willy styles. mathews a better comp for pasta.
pasta should of been second round he sucks
No waaaay
Pasta on avs 😴
Imagine 🤯