I'd give advantage to Selänne for the ducks simply for the fact that many thought he was washed up, people were saying his career's finished, he'll never play top level NHL hockey again, his knees won't hold up, anything you name it. Then he recuperates through the lockout season, comes back at 35 years old (on a 1 mill / year contract!) and plays at an elite level, gets the crown for his career with the cup in 07, could've retired but just loved playing hockey too much to do so. played into his 40s at a decent level. that kind of dude is one of a kind
Teemu is unique - not just for the Ducks but also for Finnish ice hockey. You are correct about his late career push to overcome his injuries! But while I live in Helsinki myself, I agree with Jonathan here because of Gez's captaincy and leadership since he might have had a bigger impact for the franchise after all...
I'd give the edge to Selanne as well. I just wish he kept his mouth shut, he's really damaging his legend reputation by whining all the time about stupid stuff on the papers and in social media.
@@Rizit13 Rob and Junkie are also in the same pool. The thing is, you have no idea how much I miss the good ol days when segments like Botchford (RIP)'s Studs and Duds, Ferraro's What's Bugging Ray, as well as Fraser's C'mon Ref were the norm. Those were not perfect but boy were they seething with swag, passion, and knowledge. Hockey media has become so stale and boring these days (sometimes straight up shilling and selling out), with TSN's the Quiz being the only thing that reminds me of the era when hockey media people can inject so much of their own creativity and personality into news and analysis, and as a result were so so much fun to watch/listen to. I think those five, are capable of making hockey fandom FUN again.
This left stunned. It made me realize how many actual franchise stars we have from Finland. I was expecting Barky, Selänne and Rinne to be in there, but totally missed Koivu and the honorable mentions like O. Jokinen, Kiprusoff and Aho. Great video.
While I'd argue a few picks, your list is pretty good overall. As a Quebecois, I'd just like to take a moment to compliment you on the effort you made for French Canadian / Quebecois names. Your pronunciation was, by and large, on point. Props.
As a norwegian hockey-fan, I've always found this name pronounciation....puzzling. How come the french names are pronounced good and all, but the european, particularly the finnish names are butchered like madness. I guess they aren't that important to americans as them frenchies. ;) But yeah, props for pronouncing the names good. Always a joy to hear it. :)
@@Shookie Exposition to them is likely a huge factor too. A lot of announcers kinda butcher Euro names, even if they got better in the past 10 to 15 years.
For the Oilers, it's obviously Gretzsky, but the video did a disservice to all the other Oiler greats by not even mentioning them like he did for many of the other teams; Messier, Kuri, Anderson, Fuhr, Coffey, McDavid, Draisaitl, Ryan Smith, Doug Weight, etc.
@alangil40 No, that would be doing a disservice to “Gretzsky”… he mentioned other names if it was a toss up or close… there is no one close to Gretzky. Imagine thinking Ryan “Smith” is in the running for best Oiler of all time… 🤣
Don’t forget Paul Kariya, they both were studs if it weren’t for the unfortunate concussions Paul definitely like I said would’ve been high on the list
Awww... yeah. These are the best kinds of videos. 😎 Sure, I have a few different choices, like Hellebuyck for the 2.0 Jets, or Selanne for the Ducks, but they're close calls and you still have solid choices. 👍🏻
Kopitar is 100% the correct pick for the Kings, already the games played and assist leader, once he passes Dionne's all time point record there will be no doubt. Robbed of that Conn Smythe in 2014 too
Just insane that Daniel Sedin had around 30 less games played and around 30 less points than Henrik Sedin lol. I grew up as a kid watching those two and always thought they were so dope even though Canucks aren’t my favorite team. Legends
Maybe mentioning Koivu by name with Canadiens should've been cool. Beating cancer and staying as one of the the most loved and respected modern captain is just something exceptional. Otherwise a solid list!
Amazing list there, and I'm a proud Finn to have 4 Finnish players on your list. Plus the many honorable mentions aswell. Sebastian Aho is for sure on track to be the greatest Hurricane ever.
Not a tough one for Vancouver, at all. It's Hank all day. Drafted and retired as a Canuck, captain for half his career, all time franchise points leader, won the Hart and Art Ross, toss in an Olympic gold medal and wold championship, and first career Canuck to be inducted into the hockey HOF alongside Daniel. Donated a ton of money to the children's hospital, never complained, no drama, no bullshit. Just a classy guy all around.
@supermash1 Yeah, his team came within a Lafayette bar/crossbar from perhaps winning it all. Hank's team had a stranglehold in the Final but blew it. Best team in the league that year, in my opinion.
Habs fan here, Maurice Richard is the right choice… Beliveau was amazing, and Lafleur was the best hockey player on the planet in the late 70’s, but the Rocket was the first superstar of the 6-team era and deserves to be remembered as the Habs greatest player ever… 👍
@@raygardiner4723 ...bro, I honestly could make arguments for either Maurice, Jean, or Guy as the Habs' greatest ever, so I'm fine with your opinion... cheers.
@@tonyvac5026 ...I agree, but what does that have to do with the greatest Hab of all time? I grew up a Roy fan, but I understand he doesn't come close to Richard, Beliveau and Lafleur in terms of greatest Hab of all time. I could argue top-5, but not top-3.
Only reason Getslaf got more points than Selänne, was because on his last years Ducks had a coach who simply didn't let Selänne play. In Sotshi Selänne showed that was still top 6 player but no.
You left out a key honourable mentnion for Washington, their franchise saviour, two time Norris Trophy winner, Stanley Cup winner, and hall of fame defenceman, Rod Langway. There wouldn't be a Capitals franchise without him. When he joined the team, they were a defensive joke. They allowed 338 in the year before he was traded, 283 in his first season in Washington, and 228 in his second season. Defensively, they were competitive throughout the 1980s primarily because of his leadership and skill, never allowing more than 278 goals (280 was 3.50GAA, and that was during the offensive orgy of the 1980s) and were always above the league average in team GAA while he was there.
I’m a Wild guy, been to games every year since the start. Koivu played the longest and has the most points, retired his jersey and we love him so much. Captain, leader, shootout specialist, playmaker, Koivu did it all. Marion Gaborik was the stud, he was lightning on ice and had a wicked wrister, in terms of skill and being better, Gaborik gets the nod here IMHO. Kaprizov 100% will surpass both, and is getting a big contract next year as the Parise and Suter contracts FINALLY expire. Kaprizov is insane and I’m happy he landed in the State of Hockey! (Siberia is cold like Minnesota, he won’t mind living here)
No that honor goes to Cliff Ronning. The greatest hockey player of all time for the Wild. Cliff could trick teams into taking penalties by acting he was hurt. Then the Wild would score on that PP.
Miikka Kiprusoff was the Greatest Calgary Flame ever, hands down, so many games he pulled out a win or tie when when the team in front of him was lackluster
@@billymays7210 I don't know as the talk before the season started was how bad they would really lose. In hindsight there were just a lot of "after the fact"-experts who claimed to have known that the team would be better than the mostly scraps they looked like initially, but going through most of those "experts'" posts on Hfboards they seemed to have been more convinced than anyone that the team would suck. Urinatingtree's video of those playoffs was the best one and how the sentiment turned all of a sudden when they "unfortunately" didn't suck.
@@natyalim Well, guess we “talked” to different people. Everyone I talked to knew they were going to be good. They were basically made from top 10 players from each team.
@@billymays7210 Sure. And top 10 players? Looking at the teams for the year before the draft, and the selections at least 27/30 weren't near the top 10 of their team of that year. The best ones were Fleury, Marchessault and Perron, and even they played at a different level when they got to Vegas.
@ Well, teams were only able to protect 8 skaters in general. Logic would dictate that would mean there were top 10 players available from every team. As you said, they got an amazing goalie, arguably the most important position. And those were not the only good players. Karlsson was the fastest player on a crappy team, playing with crappy players, he was bound to be better. And McNab was great, he was a top 3 defenseman for LA, probably the best defensive team the previous 4 seasons, to name a couple. Not saying I predicted Karlsson would score more than 40 or that they would make the finals, but I thought it was pretty obvious they were the best expansion team by far.
With all respect to the legend that is Gordie Howe, Detroit’s greatest ever player is without a single doubt Steve Yzerman. He won three cups with them, one of them with one knee. Could’ve won a fourth if he hadn’t retired in 2006. 1k+ point scorer. Never left the team. And most of all, Stevie played during arguably the game’s golden era. His competitors were guys like Gretzky and Lemieux. Hockey was tougher, faster and more evolved than when Mr. Howe played. It’s a close one but for me, it’s always going to be Stevie.
I came to the comments section to say the exact same thing. Not to take away from Howe, but I think the commentator has too much bias towards old time players. Everything you said is 100% accurate.
It's crazy this came up on my for you page. I was literally just thinking about this yesterday. The video was really well done and I will be checking out more of your content. Keep up the good work!
I love the small albeit probably unintentional nod to Jágr at 6:27. "But for the little penguin holding a hockey stick or the robo-penguin, it's SIXTY SIX." Cue a photo of Mario wearing Jágr's captain 68 jersey.
For Colorado / Quebec, Peter Statsny or Michel Goulet could have been even runner-ups. Together they scored a hair short of 2000 points in 21 seasons for Quebec.
It was interesting to go through franchise stats and finding mostly those two, Sakic, and Forsberg. Also finding out that there’s apparently been 4 different Stastnies in the franchise It’s really exciting how some of the current players are infiltrating it now. Hell, MacKinnon already has the single season points record for them
there is some luck or whatever you want to call it since minnesota and nashville are still relatively new and low in success. guys like saku koivu, kurri, lehtinrn and timonen didnt even get a mention because they played for super studded teams. aho, barkov, mckinnon, matthews are indeed hard to rate since theyre still midaged players at most
@@kallemetsahalme5701 It's not really luck to become that one player, or one of few players like Kipru, Rinne, M. Koivu etc. who the entire team relied on when they didn't have an established market or a great roster.
I know you said Boston has alot of players like you mentioned Bergeron and Marchand but I was honestly suprised you didn't mention Zdeno Chara. He is what comes to mind to me for Boston as a Wings fan especially during the late 00s to early 10s. What a defender.
I just saw this and really enjoyed it ! I agree with your Jet choices Ducky is obviously my favourite. His is dearly missed, RIP Ducky. I would give an hororary mention to Teemu.
I'm a leafs fan and even though i never saw Tim Horton play he's my favourite. I heard Gordie Howe called him the strongest man in hockey. (Ps the restaurant is amazing but that's not the sole reason i like him lol) I also wear 7 cause of him. he brought 4 cups to the leafs, RIP
It's a good list man. I watched it a second time because I got interrupted. Btw the Super Mario and Mike bossy picks were spot on. If you didn't pick those guys I would have lost interest.
Jersey fan here. I agree with Marty as your pick. He made me want to be a goalie and fall in love with that team as Canadian kid. Scotty was fun to watch as well though.
Devils fan here. On the ice Marty, off the ice Stevens. I’ve met both acouple times both as a kid and an adult, and Stevens gave me the same respect both as a kid and an adult, and Marty gave off this “why are you in my pressence” vibe every time, and I’ve heard similar stories.
Devs fan from game 1 (1982) ... I get Marty (many Devs fans & likely all will choose him), but Im still voting Stevens. The team was ascending when he arrived, but it was #4 that led them to the top. It was Lou''s vision, but Stevens established and maintained the culture on the ice & in the locker room
@@father042 I'm a big Niederfan myself ... He never received the respect he deserved as maybe the most offensively skilled defenseman of his era, due to the system & market he played in and his defensive prowess. The Stevens / Niedermayer pair must be in top 10 all time.
Asa longtime hockey fan, especially the Boston Bruins, I found little to argue with in these picks. They all showed respect for that team's history and avoided being biased to recent players..
You're right about Iginla for Calgary, but the second place has to be Theo Fleury, not Lanny. Lanny was great in Calgary, but outside of that one monster year he had in 82-83, his best seasons were in Toronto. He was the face of the Flames franchise because Calgary needed someone to rally behind while Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, and Coffey were ruling the league from 300 km up the road. Fleury also had the good fortune to have his time in Calgary overlap with both Lanny and Iginla, so he's the star who ties the franchise history together.
Great video. Props! The only disagreement I had was Selanne, and as you said, that was a toss up. I was expecting to have a lot more disputes, so hats off! I was especially impressed with your Kopi pick. Most non SoCalifornians wouldn’t have made that (correct) choice. How ‘bout a greatest nemesis for each team? (Hasek can only be used once tho 😆)
I read the title this morning but didn't have time to watch the vid so I thought about it. I'm going Kucherov. I'm bias though, and I've seen Vinny and St Louis play too. Kucherov has an "X" factor.
Even though I don't recognize most of the names, it always gets me excited when I see videos like these about the greats. And either then Mcdavid my favorite player is Gordy Howe, read his book fell in love with the player and hockey!
Great video about a great topic! Wonderful to see that there is actually a real person taking time and not AI to do his research, record, and voice the video! Furthermore - you are one of the very few English speakers who makes the effort to pronounce the French names correctly (the names of the Habs players)! About the greatest players of each team - I believe you are close, or correct with each team. And of course, this is a great topic for a night out at your sports bar - and as long we have sports bars and people show up there, as long we have a extremely important topic to talk about.
When I have to wait for Vancouver to come up I skip the whole video but when u did it the other way around I actually went hmmm ok I wanna hear what the other teams are like on of the few times I made it through the whole video thanks for starting the other way
This was a great listen. As a Leafs fan, absolutely Keon is a great choice. Selke-level two-way play, the Cups, the classy presence, the offense, the skating, the hockey IQ. Matthews may get there some day by virtue of points but Keon.... Ducks is interesting, I'd give it to Selanne since he was there early on and later on and was just so dynamic. A lot of the time he was the best player on the ice as well. I have a hardcore Ducks fan friend and he's on Selanne, Kariya doesn't get mentioned at all. Good work.
Totally agree with your analysis for Marchessault, H. Sedin, Stamkos (captain and 2 back to back cups !), McCann (even if I love Beniers), Marleau, Leetch, Bossy (haaard), Rinne (tough tooo), M. Koivu (you didn't mention Parise ?) , Kopitar, Barkov, R. Nash, Sakic (waiting for MacKinnon legacy...), E. Staal, Iginla, Hasek and Selanne over all other evidences Very hard for Pittsburgh, I still don't know between Crosby and Lemieux, too hard to choose ! Too hard for Chicago too, but I would have gone for Toews because he was the Captain Clutch/serious for a 3-time Cup winning team ! Thank you for this video, cheers from France ;-)
An insanely good video. It's really the depth that you go with each team that makes this fun to watch, start to finish. My strongest disagreement - St Louis. Bernie Federko is St Louis, hands down. But must say - think I'm gonna watch again cause the vid was really good...
Great Video, Jonathan Hockey. I really enjoyed it. I would've had to go with Gilbert Perrault as My Pick-The Buffalo Sabres (We agree on nearly all of the others, especially The Chicago Black Hawks/Blackhawks - I'm A Huge Tony O Esposito Fan, but Stan Mikita is it).
For Tampa, it’s between Kucherov and Stamkos, but I have to go with Kucherov. He was way more important for those cups, led the team in points for 3 straights finals and had some record breaking seasons.
he wouldn't have done all that if it wasn't for stamkos by his side though so stammer has had way more of an impact generally. Without him, who knows what kuch's numbers would've looked like. No disrespect to him at all, i am simply saying that the chances of him being the player he's been wouldn't be the if stammer hadn't guided him and helped him along the way since stammer was already one of the biggest alpha dogs in the league before kuch's arrival
@@ethanparker7900 You can't look at it that way, we can just look at what happened. Stamkos was great for our franchise, he is a way better face of the franchise than Kuch, but Kucherov as been a better player for the team.
Anaheim - Paul Kariya Atlanta - Dany Heatley Boston - Bobby Orr Buffalo - Dominik Hasek Calgary - Jerome Iginla Carolina - Eric Staal Colorado - Peter Forsberg Chicago - Jonathan Toews Columbus - Rick Nash Dallas - Mike Modano Detroit - Gordie Howe Edmonton - Wayne Gretzky Florida - Pavel Bure Hartford - Ron Francis LA - Anze Kopitar Las Vegas - Jonathan Marchessault Minnesota - Zach Parise Montreal - Maurice Richard Nashville - Phillipe Forsberg New Jersey - Martin Brodeur New York I = Mike Bossy New York R - Mark Messier Ottawa - Daniel Alfredsson Philadelphia - Eric Lindros Phoenix - Jeremy Roenick Pittsburgh - Mario Lemieux San Jose - Joe Thorton St Louis - Brett Hull Seattle - Jared McCann Tampa - Steven Stamkos Toronto - Mats Sundin Utah - Jeremy Roenick Vanvouver - Henrik Sedin Washington - Alex Ovechkin Winnipeg - Teemu Selanne
That’s a much better list than the video although Gretzky in LA is my choice. He took them from the bottom of the league to the top in one season and turned career average players into stars. No disrespect to Kopitar, but Dionne is number 2 and maybe number 1 for the Kings. Over 700 goals, 6th in points in league history. 8 seasons over 50 goals… and he never had a great team around him - he could only elevate his line.
If it’s Boston no one else gets a thought I’m sorry. Not a whisper, thought, sniff, or a mention. When we’re talking about one of the top 3 players of all time is as definitive as oilers and wayne.
Devils fan here that think Stevens was the greatest Devil of all time. I’m also one of the few Devils fans that would take a prime Hasek or Roy over Marty.
@@mattiasbjorklund5398 Unfortunately, most other Devils fans don’t agree with me on this, but Hasek’s numbers are the goaltending equivalent to Gretzky’s numbers in the 80s. And on a mediocre Buffalo team, too.
Bobby Orr is the pick for Boston but Phil Esposito was dominant while wearing the black and gold. I know he played on other teams for a while but he's easily the runner up
It was great to hear the names of some players I hadn't heard for a while. Darryl Sittler, Gil Perreault, Marcel Dionne. I think the Bossy or Trottier would be the hardest choice for me. I would probably chosen Trottier because he was the leader of those Cup teams. You've done your homework on this list.
Points per game is Pavel Bure way ahead of Henrik Sedin. The fact he didn’t play more games for the Canucks cannot be the determining factor to whether or not he was the greatest player to play for the Canucks. Saying “Henrik had the most points” is telling only half the story. Bure was electrifying. Bure was mean. Bure scored more points. Bure hands down.
i find it funny that you said that the original six would be hard and then at the wings, it was unequivalently Gordie Howe. we named a bridge to Canada after the man.
I think this video really displays how all the best talents always end up on the same teams. So many amazing players left out because they all belong to the same teams.
It's pretty wild you could have said Jagr or Bure for Florida, but neither of them got the Cats to the finals or a cup. Same kind of thing with Roy. Could have been the Av's guy, but yeah, I can see Sakic too. Fun list.
I was waiting for the blackhawks and was expecting a Kane or Toews but can’t even be mad at a Stan Mikita tho very hard to choose for this franchise but like the guy literally is the reason we got curved stick in hockey changing the game of hockey forever. But as a kid growing up playing hockey in Chicago kanes legacy can’t be understated. Kids on my team always wanted their stick taped like him tried imitating his game hell coaches banned the number 88 on the teams I used to play for because kids would actually get in fights on who gets to wear it. Even my little cousin got his mullet at one point. If he ain’t number 1 he’s definitely number 2
I agree with you on LA being the toughest to pick. They don't have the shiniest history, but they've had successful players and franchise legends that can rival cup-winning ones from the 2 Championships.
At some time, our Sabres couldn’t score for shit multiple days because Hasek was such a beast in practice. The team couldn’t net pucks cause all their practice shots were saved
Watched the whole video looking up every player as you named them based on country origin. I'd say 80% are Canadian. That would be a good long video, discussing Canadian dominance in the sport.
I agree that Sakic is the greatest for the Avalanche/Nordiques franchise. But you should have mentionned Peter Stastny. In the 80s, only Gretzky put up more points than him in the NHL.
I honestly thought it was crazy that you had Barkov over Luongo for the Panthers until the game last night against the Blues. I honestly don’t know another player who’d be able to have a 2 and a half minute shift capped off by drawing a penalty after making it look like he was playing keep away against a bunch of children and then scoring the game winning goal on the ensuing power play. Absolutely fucking unreal.
I'd give advantage to Selänne for the ducks simply for the fact that many thought he was washed up, people were saying his career's finished, he'll never play top level NHL hockey again, his knees won't hold up, anything you name it. Then he recuperates through the lockout season, comes back at 35 years old (on a 1 mill / year contract!) and plays at an elite level, gets the crown for his career with the cup in 07, could've retired but just loved playing hockey too much to do so. played into his 40s at a decent level. that kind of dude is one of a kind
Teemu is unique - not just for the Ducks but also for Finnish ice hockey. You are correct about his late career push to overcome his injuries! But while I live in Helsinki myself, I agree with Jonathan here because of Gez's captaincy and leadership since he might have had a bigger impact for the franchise after all...
Teemu Selanne = Finnish Unicorn 🇫🇮
I'd give the edge to Selanne as well.
I just wish he kept his mouth shut, he's really damaging his legend reputation by whining all the time about stupid stuff on the papers and in social media.
easy solution is to never idolize celebrities. they can be great on the ice but i have zero interest in who they are outside of that
@@Effigyy Well I guess everyone has some childhood heroes. You should just never meet them or hear about them outside the spectrum they shone at...
You Eck and Hockey Psych should definitely do a collab of some sort. It'll be epic.
And Rob Talks Hockey!
Omg that would be the best collaboration ever
That would be awesome, those are my three hockey guys as well.
Hockey junkie!!
@@Rizit13 Rob and Junkie are also in the same pool. The thing is, you have no idea how much I miss the good ol days when segments like Botchford (RIP)'s Studs and Duds, Ferraro's What's Bugging Ray, as well as Fraser's C'mon Ref were the norm. Those were not perfect but boy were they seething with swag, passion, and knowledge. Hockey media has become so stale and boring these days (sometimes straight up shilling and selling out), with TSN's the Quiz being the only thing that reminds me of the era when hockey media people can inject so much of their own creativity and personality into news and analysis, and as a result were so so much fun to watch/listen to. I think those five, are capable of making hockey fandom FUN again.
This left stunned. It made me realize how many actual franchise stars we have from Finland. I was expecting Barky, Selänne and Rinne to be in there, but totally missed Koivu and the honorable mentions like O. Jokinen, Kiprusoff and Aho. Great video.
Jere Lehtinen is also pretty high on Dallas Stars list, Jari Kurri on Edmonton Oilers list and Teppo Numminen on Phoenix Coyotes list. 👌🏻
I think Finland had more nominations than any other country apart Canada and US? Three even with Teemu losing by a hairs length to Gezlaf..
@@leopartanen8752 Oh man Jere how to forget him
While I'd argue a few picks, your list is pretty good overall.
As a Quebecois, I'd just like to take a moment to compliment you on the effort you made for French Canadian / Quebecois names. Your pronunciation was, by and large, on point. Props.
Yeah! Can t believe it. I almost thought you were french yourself!
As a French, I was stunned by the pronunciation too !!
Not gonna lie, I thought the exact same thing 💯
As a norwegian hockey-fan, I've always found this name pronounciation....puzzling. How come the french names are pronounced good and all, but the european, particularly the finnish names are butchered like madness. I guess they aren't that important to americans as them frenchies. ;) But yeah, props for pronouncing the names good. Always a joy to hear it. :)
@@Shookie Exposition to them is likely a huge factor too. A lot of announcers kinda butcher Euro names, even if they got better in the past 10 to 15 years.
Flames: Jagr
Flyers: Jagr
Caps: Jagr
Stars: Jagr
Devils: Jagr
Rangers: Jagr
Panthers: Jagr
Bruins: Jagr
Penguins: Jagr
Sharks: Jonathaaaaaaaaan CHEEEEECHOOOOOO
lool
For the Penguins it is obviously Mario and for the Bruins it’s Orr. But for the rest this list applies 😅
Could easily be the all time leading goal scorer if he didn't leave the NHL
Not for the Penguins, but a truly great player.
jonathaaan tootoo the goat
How nuts it is that McDavid and Crosby aren’t on this list. The pens and oilers were so lucky
And Jagr isn't even mentioned.
But Jagr is mentioned in the beginning as an example of why he wasn't picked for the Flames.
@@RippeR751Well, when your Franchise is fortunate enough to draft Lemieux, Jagr, Crosby, and Malkin, you have an embarrassment of riches.
For the Oilers, it's obviously Gretzsky, but the video did a disservice to all the other Oiler greats by not even mentioning them like he did for many of the other teams; Messier, Kuri, Anderson, Fuhr, Coffey, McDavid, Draisaitl, Ryan Smith, Doug Weight, etc.
@alangil40 No, that would be doing a disservice to “Gretzsky”… he mentioned other names if it was a toss up or close… there is no one close to Gretzky. Imagine thinking Ryan “Smith” is in the running for best Oiler of all time… 🤣
Temu Selänne for Anaheim! Novcontest, egen though he is a Finn, he put Anaheim in the NHL map. What a rookie season!
Don’t forget Paul Kariya, they both were studs if it weren’t for the unfortunate concussions Paul definitely like I said would’ve been high on the list
Paul Kariya is the man who put the Ducks on the map not Teemu
Selanne's rookie season was in Winnipeg though?
@@Chromedragon79 Yup he had 76 goals in 1993, i was 12 then. Im from Canada.
Is there something wrong being a Finn?
Awww... yeah. These are the best kinds of videos. 😎 Sure, I have a few different choices, like Hellebuyck for the 2.0 Jets, or Selanne for the Ducks, but they're close calls and you still have solid choices. 👍🏻
Kopitar is 100% the correct pick for the Kings, already the games played and assist leader, once he passes Dionne's all time point record there will be no doubt. Robbed of that Conn Smythe in 2014 too
I agree 100%
yup
Ya, this list was pretty spot on
Marcell Dionne played not only on one of the worst teams but in one of the worst arenas and the worst area. I know i lived there,
@@kevinwalters6907 Worst teams? They beat the Gretzky Oilers in the playoffs…
Just insane that Daniel Sedin had around 30 less games played and around 30 less points than Henrik Sedin lol. I grew up as a kid watching those two and always thought they were so dope even though Canucks aren’t my favorite team. Legends
Hockey from 2010 to 2015 was something else man.
Thanks for picking Dave Keon for the Leafs, he really was their greatest player!
i have a uncle always lived in alberta his whole life guys just in love with the leafs always talks about Dave Keon
Selänne is such a legend. What a great photo finish with Getzlaf!
Maybe mentioning Koivu by name with Canadiens should've been cool. Beating cancer and staying as one of the the most loved and respected modern captain is just something exceptional. Otherwise a solid list!
But he has no Cups.
@@JaredtheRabbitmaybe he prefers mugs
Give me a break. They have dozens of hall of famers. Koivu?! 🙄
Amazing list there, and I'm a proud Finn to have 4 Finnish players on your list. Plus the many honorable mentions aswell.
Sebastian Aho is for sure on track to be the greatest Hurricane ever.
Not a tough one for Vancouver, at all. It's Hank all day. Drafted and retired as a Canuck, captain for half his career, all time franchise points leader, won the Hart and Art Ross, toss in an Olympic gold medal and wold championship, and first career Canuck to be inducted into the hockey HOF alongside Daniel. Donated a ton of money to the children's hospital, never complained, no drama, no bullshit. Just a classy guy all around.
It's disappointing that Vancouver has never won a cup. I think Trevor Linden took them the closest and he is a contender for this title.
@supermash1 Yeah, his team came within a Lafayette bar/crossbar from perhaps winning it all. Hank's team had a stranglehold in the Final but blew it. Best team in the league that year, in my opinion.
Dave Tiger Williams for the greatest Canuck. With a name like that.. can't go wrong LOL
Habs fan here, Maurice Richard is the right choice… Beliveau was amazing, and Lafleur was the best hockey player on the planet in the late 70’s, but the Rocket was the first superstar of the 6-team era and deserves to be remembered as the Habs greatest player ever… 👍
Beliveau was the best player ever!!
@@raygardiner4723 ...bro, I honestly could make arguments for either Maurice, Jean, or Guy as the Habs' greatest ever, so I'm fine with your opinion... cheers.
Maurice Richard was always considered the best Habs player ever he's top 5
No way habs win the cup in 86 and 93 without Roy.
@@tonyvac5026 ...I agree, but what does that have to do with the greatest Hab of all time? I grew up a Roy fan, but I understand he doesn't come close to Richard, Beliveau and Lafleur in terms of greatest Hab of all time. I could argue top-5, but not top-3.
Only reason Getslaf got more points than Selänne, was because on his last years Ducks had a coach who simply didn't let Selänne play. In Sotshi Selänne showed that was still top 6 player but no.
Selänne won Sotshi olympics MVP, so was literally chosen as a best player there.
Getz without a doubt, guy was a tank with sweet mitts.
You left out a key honourable mentnion for Washington, their franchise saviour, two time Norris Trophy winner, Stanley Cup winner, and hall of fame defenceman, Rod Langway. There wouldn't be a Capitals franchise without him. When he joined the team, they were a defensive joke. They allowed 338 in the year before he was traded, 283 in his first season in Washington, and 228 in his second season. Defensively, they were competitive throughout the 1980s primarily because of his leadership and skill, never allowing more than 278 goals (280 was 3.50GAA, and that was during the offensive orgy of the 1980s) and were always above the league average in team GAA while he was there.
Nailed it with the Rangers. If you talk about franchise GOAT and you have to pick one - it has to be Leetch. Longevity, Cup, Conn Smythe.
I’m a Wild guy, been to games every year since the start. Koivu played the longest and has the most points, retired his jersey and we love him so much. Captain, leader, shootout specialist, playmaker, Koivu did it all.
Marion Gaborik was the stud, he was lightning on ice and had a wicked wrister, in terms of skill and being better, Gaborik gets the nod here IMHO.
Kaprizov 100% will surpass both, and is getting a big contract next year as the Parise and Suter contracts FINALLY expire. Kaprizov is insane and I’m happy he landed in the State of Hockey! (Siberia is cold like Minnesota, he won’t mind living here)
No that honor goes to Cliff Ronning. The greatest hockey player of all time for the Wild.
Cliff could trick teams into taking penalties by acting he was hurt. Then the Wild would score on that PP.
Miikka Kiprusoff was the Greatest Calgary Flame ever, hands down, so many games he pulled out a win or tie when when the team in front of him was lackluster
This.
Vegas' greatest should be their accountant 😂😂😂😂
Or Bettman, for the expansion draft rules. My grandma could have made a good team from that.
@@billymays7210 I don't know as the talk before the season started was how bad they would really lose. In hindsight there were just a lot of "after the fact"-experts who claimed to have known that the team would be better than the mostly scraps they looked like initially, but going through most of those "experts'" posts on Hfboards they seemed to have been more convinced than anyone that the team would suck.
Urinatingtree's video of those playoffs was the best one and how the sentiment turned all of a sudden when they "unfortunately" didn't suck.
@@natyalim Well, guess we “talked” to different people. Everyone I talked to knew they were going to be good. They were basically made from top 10 players from each team.
@@billymays7210 Sure. And top 10 players?
Looking at the teams for the year before the draft, and the selections at least 27/30 weren't near the top 10 of their team of that year.
The best ones were Fleury, Marchessault and Perron, and even they played at a different level when they got to Vegas.
@ Well, teams were only able to protect 8 skaters in general. Logic would dictate that would mean there were top 10 players available from every team. As you said, they got an amazing goalie, arguably the most important position. And those were not the only good players. Karlsson was the fastest player on a crappy team, playing with crappy players, he was bound to be better. And McNab was great, he was a top 3 defenseman for LA, probably the best defensive team the previous 4 seasons, to name a couple.
Not saying I predicted Karlsson would score more than 40 or that they would make the finals, but I thought it was pretty obvious they were the best expansion team by far.
With all respect to the legend that is Gordie Howe, Detroit’s greatest ever player is without a single doubt Steve Yzerman.
He won three cups with them, one of them with one knee. Could’ve won a fourth if he hadn’t retired in 2006.
1k+ point scorer.
Never left the team.
And most of all, Stevie played during arguably the game’s golden era. His competitors were guys like Gretzky and Lemieux. Hockey was tougher, faster and more evolved than when Mr. Howe played.
It’s a close one but for me, it’s always going to be Stevie.
Lidström was the best player for Detroit.
I came to the comments section to say the exact same thing. Not to take away from Howe, but I think the commentator has too much bias towards old time players. Everything you said is 100% accurate.
7:22 that picture of Alfredsson, Heatley and Speeza will never not go insanely hard
It's crazy this came up on my for you page. I was literally just thinking about this yesterday. The video was really well done and I will be checking out more of your content. Keep up the good work!
I love the small albeit probably unintentional nod to Jágr at 6:27. "But for the little penguin holding a hockey stick or the robo-penguin, it's SIXTY SIX." Cue a photo of Mario wearing Jágr's captain 68 jersey.
3rd of the way thru but back to work so finishing later. Great vid so far. You're awesome !
Great video your knowledge of hockey as well as editing is amazing cheers
For Colorado / Quebec, Peter Statsny or Michel Goulet could have been even runner-ups. Together they scored a hair short of 2000 points in 21 seasons for Quebec.
Stastny is so underrated. He was 2nd in points for the entire 1980's behind only Gretzky
And JC Trembley is what, chopped liver?
It was interesting to go through franchise stats and finding mostly those two, Sakic, and Forsberg. Also finding out that there’s apparently been 4 different Stastnies in the franchise
It’s really exciting how some of the current players are infiltrating it now. Hell, MacKinnon already has the single season points record for them
Your picks were all well thought out, beautiful video and content as usual.
Love these vids JH !! Hoping our flames can make some noise and prove some people wrong to start the year here
Damn... Almost picked 4 Finns! 🇫🇮
there is some luck or whatever you want to call it since minnesota and nashville are still relatively new and low in success. guys like saku koivu, kurri, lehtinrn and timonen didnt even get a mention because they played for super studded teams. aho, barkov, mckinnon, matthews are indeed hard to rate since theyre still midaged players at most
@@kallemetsahalme5701 It's not really luck to become that one player, or one of few players like Kipru, Rinne, M. Koivu etc. who the entire team relied on when they didn't have an established market or a great roster.
@@kallemetsahalme5701 what do you mean with Mackinnon and Matthews? Isn't this a finn thread?
I know you said Boston has alot of players like you mentioned Bergeron and Marchand but I was honestly suprised you didn't mention Zdeno Chara.
He is what comes to mind to me for Boston as a Wings fan especially during the late 00s to early 10s. What a defender.
I remember when Iginla left the flames, everyone still loved him so much we were all hoping he would win a cup.
Best to never win
surprisingly good pronunciation of french canadian names, good vid!
I just saw this and really enjoyed it ! I agree with your Jet choices Ducky is obviously my favourite. His is dearly missed, RIP Ducky. I would give an hororary mention to Teemu.
I'm a leafs fan and even though i never saw Tim Horton play he's my favourite. I heard Gordie Howe called him the strongest man in hockey. (Ps the restaurant is amazing but that's not the sole reason i like him lol) I also wear 7 cause of him. he brought 4 cups to the leafs, RIP
It's a good list man. I watched it a second time because I got interrupted. Btw the Super Mario and Mike bossy picks were spot on. If you didn't pick those guys I would have lost interest.
Going Keon for the Leafs has totally raised your credibility for me. Happy now to watch more
Jersey fan here. I agree with Marty as your pick. He made me want to be a goalie and fall in love with that team as Canadian kid. Scotty was fun to watch as well though.
Devils fan here. On the ice Marty, off the ice Stevens. I’ve met both acouple times both as a kid and an adult, and Stevens gave me the same respect both as a kid and an adult, and Marty gave off this “why are you in my pressence” vibe every time, and I’ve heard similar stories.
Scott Stevens is leadership personified
Marty was a dick. Wouldnt take a pic with me while all the rest of the guys did
Devs fan from game 1 (1982) ... I get Marty (many Devs fans & likely all will choose him), but Im still voting Stevens. The team was ascending when he arrived, but it was #4 that led them to the top. It was Lou''s vision, but Stevens established and maintained the culture on the ice & in the locker room
Scott Niedermayer also deserves a mention for the Devils
And Patrik Elias, their best forward
@@father042 I'm a big Niederfan myself ... He never received the respect he deserved as maybe the most offensively skilled defenseman of his era, due to the system & market he played in and his defensive prowess. The Stevens / Niedermayer pair must be in top 10 all time.
Love your longer videos
Really fun to watch
Why was Bobby Hull skipped over without even a name check for Chicago?
He mentioned him having a statue in Chicago along with Stan Mikita.
Asa longtime hockey fan, especially the Boston Bruins, I found little to argue with in these picks. They all showed respect for that team's history and avoided being biased to recent players..
You're right about Iginla for Calgary, but the second place has to be Theo Fleury, not Lanny. Lanny was great in Calgary, but outside of that one monster year he had in 82-83, his best seasons were in Toronto. He was the face of the Flames franchise because Calgary needed someone to rally behind while Gretzky, Messier, Kurri, and Coffey were ruling the league from 300 km up the road.
Fleury also had the good fortune to have his time in Calgary overlap with both Lanny and Iginla, so he's the star who ties the franchise history together.
Thanks for marvellous video from Finland
Great video. Props! The only disagreement I had was Selanne, and as you said, that was a toss up. I was expecting to have a lot more disputes, so hats off!
I was especially impressed with your Kopi pick. Most non SoCalifornians wouldn’t have made that (correct) choice.
How ‘bout a greatest nemesis for each team? (Hasek can only be used once tho 😆)
Kucherov not being mentioned in the Lightning conversation is hilarious. As well as Vasilevskiy and Hedman
I read the title this morning but didn't have time to watch the vid so I thought about it. I'm going Kucherov.
I'm bias though, and I've seen Vinny and St Louis play too. Kucherov has an "X" factor.
Yup. Stammer is a legend but Kuch, Vasilevskiy, and Hedman are all also legends for us
Kucherov gets points annnnnnddd that's about it yep. Maybe not the best person to have as the face of the franchise
Kuch is the best Lightning ever! 167 play off points ! 2 art ross( 128 & 144), hart , ted lindsay, 2 cups, 4 finals
Dry your eyes
This was a lot of fun! Thanks
Even though I don't recognize most of the names, it always gets me excited when I see videos like these about the greats. And either then Mcdavid my favorite player is Gordy Howe, read his book fell in love with the player and hockey!
Bummer, you missed out on some incredible years of hockey then.
Great video about a great topic!
Wonderful to see that there is actually a real person taking time and not AI to do his research, record, and voice the video! Furthermore - you are one of the very few English speakers who makes the effort to pronounce the French names correctly (the names of the Habs players)!
About the greatest players of each team - I believe you are close, or correct with each team. And of course, this is a great topic for a night out at your sports bar - and as long we have sports bars and people show up there, as long we have a extremely important topic to talk about.
Great video, but I think Cam Ward could have at least been mentioned for hid 06 Cup run
I was ready to call your list invalid but the rightful GOAT sens player eill always be Alfie, good job!
Great list. Good work. 🙂
Really enjoyed your selections and your production! Keep up the great work. I'll Be Back...
I actually would’ve gave Kariya the nod for Anaheim.
The Dominators stats are insane too btw
When I have to wait for Vancouver to come up I skip the whole video but when u did it the other way around I actually went hmmm ok I wanna hear what the other teams are like on of the few times I made it through the whole video thanks for starting the other way
lol same
This was a great listen.
As a Leafs fan, absolutely Keon is a great choice. Selke-level two-way play, the Cups, the classy presence, the offense, the skating, the hockey IQ. Matthews may get there some day by virtue of points but Keon....
Ducks is interesting, I'd give it to Selanne since he was there early on and later on and was just so dynamic. A lot of the time he was the best player on the ice as well. I have a hardcore Ducks fan friend and he's on Selanne, Kariya doesn't get mentioned at all.
Good work.
highly respectable choices
i liked your video because you started with the jets ty lol
Totally agree with your analysis for Marchessault, H. Sedin, Stamkos (captain and 2 back to back cups !), McCann (even if I love Beniers), Marleau, Leetch, Bossy (haaard), Rinne (tough tooo), M. Koivu (you didn't mention Parise ?) , Kopitar, Barkov, R. Nash, Sakic (waiting for MacKinnon legacy...), E. Staal, Iginla, Hasek and Selanne over all other evidences
Very hard for Pittsburgh, I still don't know between Crosby and Lemieux, too hard to choose !
Too hard for Chicago too, but I would have gone for Toews because he was the Captain Clutch/serious for a 3-time Cup winning team !
Thank you for this video, cheers from France ;-)
An insanely good video. It's really the depth that you go with each team that makes this fun to watch, start to finish. My strongest disagreement - St Louis. Bernie Federko is St Louis, hands down. But must say - think I'm gonna watch again cause the vid was really good...
Great Video, Jonathan Hockey. I really enjoyed it. I would've had to go with Gilbert Perrault as My Pick-The Buffalo Sabres (We agree on nearly all of the others, especially The Chicago Black Hawks/Blackhawks - I'm A Huge Tony O Esposito Fan, but Stan Mikita is it).
Elite video. Thank you.
For Tampa, it’s between Kucherov and Stamkos, but I have to go with Kucherov. He was way more important for those cups, led the team in points for 3 straights finals and had some record breaking seasons.
he wouldn't have done all that if it wasn't for stamkos by his side though so stammer has had way more of an impact generally. Without him, who knows what kuch's numbers would've looked like. No disrespect to him at all, i am simply saying that the chances of him being the player he's been wouldn't be the if stammer hadn't guided him and helped him along the way since stammer was already one of the biggest alpha dogs in the league before kuch's arrival
@@ethanparker7900 You can't look at it that way, we can just look at what happened. Stamkos was great for our franchise, he is a way better face of the franchise than Kuch, but Kucherov as been a better player for the team.
Hedman over Kuch for me
There is really no wrong answer. I love Kuch way more than i ever did Stamkos. And dont forget about Hedman and Vasi.
@@roccovb5377 stammer was always the star/top of the food chain though nothing can beat that
Anaheim - Paul Kariya
Atlanta - Dany Heatley
Boston - Bobby Orr
Buffalo - Dominik Hasek
Calgary - Jerome Iginla
Carolina - Eric Staal
Colorado - Peter Forsberg
Chicago - Jonathan Toews
Columbus - Rick Nash
Dallas - Mike Modano
Detroit - Gordie Howe
Edmonton - Wayne Gretzky
Florida - Pavel Bure
Hartford - Ron Francis
LA - Anze Kopitar
Las Vegas - Jonathan Marchessault
Minnesota - Zach Parise
Montreal - Maurice Richard
Nashville - Phillipe Forsberg
New Jersey - Martin Brodeur
New York I = Mike Bossy
New York R - Mark Messier
Ottawa - Daniel Alfredsson
Philadelphia - Eric Lindros
Phoenix - Jeremy Roenick
Pittsburgh - Mario Lemieux
San Jose - Joe Thorton
St Louis - Brett Hull
Seattle - Jared McCann
Tampa - Steven Stamkos
Toronto - Mats Sundin
Utah - Jeremy Roenick
Vanvouver - Henrik Sedin
Washington - Alex Ovechkin
Winnipeg - Teemu Selanne
That’s a much better list than the video although Gretzky in LA is my choice. He took them from the bottom of the league to the top in one season and turned career average players into stars. No disrespect to Kopitar, but Dionne is number 2 and maybe number 1 for the Kings. Over 700 goals, 6th in points in league history. 8 seasons over 50 goals… and he never had a great team around him - he could only elevate his line.
This list reads like the Sega Genesis NHLPA
Campbell vs Wales conference match up
I think Chara could be worth a mention for Boston too. Really great video, love hearing the history of these amazing players!
If it’s Boston no one else gets a thought I’m sorry. Not a whisper, thought, sniff, or a mention. When we’re talking about one of the top 3 players of all time is as definitive as oilers and wayne.
Devils fan here that think Stevens was the greatest Devil of all time. I’m also one of the few Devils fans that would take a prime Hasek or Roy over Marty.
Lol, greatness is a far away from that guy.
Prime Hasek over Brodeur is a no-brainer
@@mattiasbjorklund5398 Unfortunately, most other Devils fans don’t agree with me on this, but Hasek’s numbers are the goaltending equivalent to Gretzky’s numbers in the 80s. And on a mediocre Buffalo team, too.
Hasek had the numbers, Brodeur had the consistency
@@father042 Hasek also started several years later than Brodeur due to the Iron Curtain. Think he was about 26 when he debuted in the NHL.
Great video. I’d love to see one of these with goalies only
Fleury vs. Barrasso
Bobby Orr is the pick for Boston but Phil Esposito was dominant while wearing the black and gold. I know he played on other teams for a while but he's easily the runner up
I dont know bourque to me is ahead of Esposito by a lot
@@jo5r8753 Explain why Bourque never won shit has the best player on his team
@@CSportz-p5r esposito did nothing without orr. after and before orr he was a 30 goal and 40 assist player
It was great to hear the names of some players I hadn't heard for a while. Darryl Sittler, Gil Perreault, Marcel Dionne.
I think the Bossy or Trottier would be the hardest choice for me. I would probably chosen Trottier because he was the leader of those Cup teams. You've done your homework on this list.
Great job! Thank you.😊
Spot on with your choices dude! Great video
I'm so glad you picked Kopi. This dude gotta be the most underrated modern player.
Heeey! A most underrated from each team long form
RBA has been our greatest player but I fully expect Aho to take that mantle when it's all said and done. Good video.
Points per game is Pavel Bure way ahead of Henrik Sedin. The fact he didn’t play more games for the Canucks cannot be the determining factor to whether or not he was the greatest player to play for the Canucks.
Saying “Henrik had the most points” is telling only half the story. Bure was electrifying. Bure was mean. Bure scored more points.
Bure hands down.
i find it funny that you said that the original six would be hard and then at the wings, it was unequivalently Gordie Howe. we named a bridge to Canada after the man.
I can feel that Keller pick for Utah will be spot on pretty soon. Especially after that OT winner
Props for choosing Brian Leetch on this. Bobby Orr 2.0 for me, even though he was less dominant. My favourite growing up.
Agreed all but Ducks. Number 8 is the number 1.
I think this video really displays how all the best talents always end up on the same teams. So many amazing players left out because they all belong to the same teams.
It's pretty wild you could have said Jagr or Bure for Florida, but neither of them got the Cats to the finals or a cup. Same kind of thing with Roy. Could have been the Av's guy, but yeah, I can see Sakic too. Fun list.
Great list overall. I love Lanny but I would put Fleury right behind Iggy for Calgary. That is my only gripe
Great video. I would have considered Pat LaFontaine for the Sabres but in the end Hasek has to be the pick.
I was waiting for the blackhawks and was expecting a Kane or Toews but can’t even be mad at a Stan Mikita tho very hard to choose for this franchise but like the guy literally is the reason we got curved stick in hockey changing the game of hockey forever.
But as a kid growing up playing hockey in Chicago kanes legacy can’t be understated. Kids on my team always wanted their stick taped like him tried imitating his game hell coaches banned the number 88 on the teams I used to play for because kids would actually get in fights on who gets to wear it. Even my little cousin got his mullet at one point. If he ain’t number 1 he’s definitely number 2
I agree with you on LA being the toughest to pick. They don't have the shiniest history, but they've had successful players and franchise legends that can rival cup-winning ones from the 2 Championships.
At some time, our Sabres couldn’t score for shit multiple days because Hasek was such a beast in practice. The team couldn’t net pucks cause all their practice shots were saved
6:45 I love how you called him super mario
That was his nickname.
9:38 Most people still say Patrick “Wah” to this day; I’m glad you’ve broken the tradition 😂
He speaks French so it would be odd to hear him not pronounce the R.
Watched the whole video looking up every player as you named them based on country origin. I'd say 80% are Canadian. That would be a good long video, discussing Canadian dominance in the sport.
Would've gone with MacInnis for Calgary and Hextall deserves honorable mention for Philly, but otherwise full agreement.
love these vids
I agree that Sakic is the greatest for the Avalanche/Nordiques franchise. But you should have mentionned Peter Stastny. In the 80s, only Gretzky put up more points than him in the NHL.
Peter Forsberg is difinetly the best ever in Colorado
@@rogerengblom5061and it's not even close
I got to see Bure in his first week in vancouver. I've never seen anyone fly like he did ever
If you saw Temu live in Winnipeg in his Rookie season, you can't not pick him for the Ducks.
As a rangers fan… gotta be lundqvuist for me
Epic video bro
I honestly thought it was crazy that you had Barkov over Luongo for the Panthers until the game last night against the Blues. I honestly don’t know another player who’d be able to have a 2 and a half minute shift capped off by drawing a penalty after making it look like he was playing keep away against a bunch of children and then scoring the game winning goal on the ensuing power play. Absolutely fucking unreal.