They are being taught that there is no limit to gender identification. Not even joking. My sister's daughter has a kid in her class that moved from California and identifies as a fruit-loop dog/cat dragon. A fruit-loop dog dragon from a certain time in the day until she changes to a fruit-loop cat dragon.
Re:Nox sensor. Thanks for the video. It is very helpful. The thing is, I sat down for a minute and realized there was no need to remove the nox sensor as i have 410km on my truck, so it's tight. Just take the whole elbow out with the sensor/cable and move it off to the side. There is enough cable once you cut the zip ties that it can sit on top of the steering linkage.
Wish this video was up a few days ago. Just replaced my turbo on 2016 RAM 3500 with a tow master from Thoroughbred Diesel. Had to fumble my way through it. Got it done but I will say the fleece cheetah drain tube is an absolute must have.
Just finished getting mine out. Watched this video step by step and followed to a T except that I did remove the battery tray and therefor didn't have to disconnect the alternator. I also opted to remove the coolant line from the block instead of dealing with the tight area under the turbo near the oil drain tube. Can't thank you guys enough for this video! New fleece goes in tomorrow morning 😃
Great video helped so much. But, I found if you remove the compressor housing you have good access to the lower lines and you don't have to raise the engine 2015 Ram 2500
Good job Wade, have all new respect for you. Everything you said is true Put performance exaust manifold on my 2018 Ram 3500, much easier with emissions removed.
Great video!!! watched it a few times and just finished swapping mine out. I saved a little time by not removing the NOX sensor, just undo the 2 clamps and take the elbow out the side and set it on the suspension. the only other thing I did different was the bottom cooler line, if you massage the heatshild a little, you can get a 7/8" socket on it to undo it. all in all, one of the best if not the best video for this swap!! thank you!!
So I put this turbo on my 2018 ram. Everything went smooth, Turbo works great. I installed the fleece drain tube with no added gasket at first( looked like it’s what you did in the video). About 5k miles it started leaking oil. Yesterday I took it off cleaned everything up and added a gasket with a fine line of RTV( used high temp red) … still leaking. I’m going to attack it again this weekend. Any advice as to why it could be leaking? Was going to try a new gasket with oil resistant RTV.
Same thing happened to us. The drain tube does not require another gasket, as there is a recessed o ring in the flange. The first kit we had the bolts in it were too long to make a good seal, you might want to check bolt length. If you need help on this just give us a call.
My Brother how are you doing there with your new Dodge , l am impressed how well and details you explained heviting on, l thank you very much , l do have 1999 Dodge Diesel 2500 , l am going to put a turbo like one but much older with not Egr , God bless you my brother your the best to explain step by step uninstall to put back together l thank you very much for your well video!
Good evening sir. First, thanks for an incredibly useful video. I'm at the point of lifting the engine up 1" on the passenger side to clear the turbo studs and found that the engine does not pivot upward. Engine mount bolt has at least 1/8" of clearance on each end. What are the possible causes? Thanks in advance for your reply!!!
Thanks for the answer! Turbo installation was very successful, thanks to your video, no leaks, great performance etc. FYI- I loosened the transmission shock mount bolts and it came right up. My next move would have been the driver side mount bolt as you suggested. Thanks again! B
Great video, going to be doing my turbo soon. Recommend linking your products and listing your tools used used in this video. It makes it easier to locate them.. As I cannot locate the down pipe gasket at 1:01:30 you spoke of having on your site.
Wade I’ve been watching your videos for a long time because you use to have brown hair when to gray and now it’s white, this job is tuff on a old dude . Ha Ha and Iam 68 and tiny bit of gray .
I want you to do a second Gen swap with a Sneed Speed exhaust and a cheats turbo on my 05 3500 6 speed manual 4 door long bed dullay and it is used to haul a 10.6 Bigfoot truck camper so let me know I will pay for all parts and you supply the labor. This will be a good video for your customers !!
I feel like those manifold stud holes are to tight on all of my imports that have had that issues I take a drill and clean the holes up to get rid of the resistance, also yes I own a 2013 cummins so what I wonder would there be an issues with doing the same on the manifold of the truck seems like it would make siding the turbo back on and off much easier
You talk about the coolant banjo bolt reinstall being the qorst part. Woulent it make it easier to run that down after placing the turbo in the bay but before attaching? Or does thqt create clearance issues when bolting it up?
You nailed it, and I really wish that you could do it that way. The damn coolant line is only so long and its length and position really only lends itself to being installed once the turbo is at its final resting place, if that makes sense. Chasing the line to hook up at the other end is worse in my opinion.
Truck setup will determine the HP capabilities of the Cheetah. This one, for the 13-18 Dodges will support up to 700 HP (with the right modifications).
Recalibrate VGT, did a kill test and number 1 was no change to idle or 900RPM Is there anything else I can check before I tear down, to make sure u replace what needs to be done
@thoroughbreddiesel did you do anything special for first startup with the new turbo? Some recommend unplugging the injector harness and turning the engine over multiple times for 10 second intervals to get oil pressure at the turbo before first startup. Then plug injector harness back in and start the truck. What do you typically recommend?
We recommend pre oiling the turbo, we also recommend an oil change when changing a turbo. And for that, we change the oil right before changing the turbo, so that the truck doesn’t have extended times without lube.
It’s a snap on 3/8 ratchet 14.4 volt. I really do like the ratchet, but I haven’t had very good luck with these batteries. I know a lot of guys like them but I haven’t been very impressed. Great ratchet though.
The only way to do it without pulling the manifold and the turbo is to lift the motor. If you take the manifold out and want to deal with the 12 gaskets that are behind it also, you don't have to lift the motor.
I was looking at the 3000 because you put it on one of the trucks I got on the web and it has a lot of bad reviews it looks like 90% of people likes the s300’s what do yea think
I just had my mechanic install a fleece cheetah on my 2017 cummins 2500. I feel like I have some pretty good turbo lag till about 2000RPM. Then the truck shoots off like a rocket. Any chance you guys have some real world numbers for what boost should be? I feel like I can no longer maintain 70mph pulling my utility trailer in 6th gear as the rpms are too low and don't build much boost. Stock turbo always had power when requested. Thanks!
There will be SLIGHT lag between the Cheetah and the stock unit on the bottom end, but much better mid and top range. Any chance you have a boost leak? Check the manifold gasket at the turbo.
Been trying for an hour to get the bolts in on the bottom of the turbo to the fleece oil drain tube. Only way I can see to line up the bolts is under the truck with an extension. If I remove the passenger front tire will I be able to access it?
Have a stock 16 ram 3500 if I upgrade to this turbo do I need to reprogram, tune, flash anything? Have a actuator code and figured I'd up garage the whole thing not much more to do so
No reprogram necessary with this turbo and that’s the one of its best features. But the truck runs so much better with tuning that really takes advantage of the performance turbo.
Man there is a ton if junk under that hood . Iam sure glad I bought a new Dodge in2005 and there is nothing under my hood is a hard pulling 5.9 been a great truck 1 ton 4 door long bed dullay 4x4 factory 6 speed manual and manual 4x4 selector Laramie.
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This is what kids these days need to learn, not 3,479 genders
They are being taught that there is no limit to gender identification. Not even joking.
My sister's daughter has a kid in her class that moved from California and identifies as a fruit-loop dog/cat dragon.
A fruit-loop dog dragon from a certain time in the day until she changes to a fruit-loop cat dragon.
Wade is correct. This Fleece Cheetah is what I went with with new tuning. It will awaken when I put it to the floor.
can't thank you enough for doing this video, saved me $3000 dollars by doing it myself! i owe you a beer!
You're very welcome!
Re:Nox sensor.
Thanks for the video. It is very helpful.
The thing is, I sat down for a minute and realized there was no need to remove the nox sensor as i have 410km on my truck, so it's tight. Just take the whole elbow out with the sensor/cable and move it off to the side. There is enough cable once you cut the zip ties that it can sit on top of the steering linkage.
Thanks for sharing.
Wish this video was up a few days ago. Just replaced my turbo on 2016 RAM 3500 with a tow master from Thoroughbred Diesel. Had to fumble my way through it. Got it done but I will say the fleece cheetah drain tube is an absolute must have.
Shoot. Well, glad you got done.
Just finished getting mine out. Watched this video step by step and followed to a T except that I did remove the battery tray and therefor didn't have to disconnect the alternator. I also opted to remove the coolant line from the block instead of dealing with the tight area under the turbo near the oil drain tube. Can't thank you guys enough for this video! New fleece goes in tomorrow morning 😃
You're very welcome!
Did you throw injectors in your truck or are you running stock injectors?
Excellent video, bc of these how to videos and your very fast shipping i will continue ordering from thoroughbred. Thanks!
You're very welcome! We appreciate your business!
6 hours to install and a difficulty of 8 out of 10 is not in my thinking a “drop in” part.
I would not call that a 8 out of 10 job. 8 would be like a cylinder head. 10 would be a motor disassemble.
Thanks for the upload guys gonna be a big help. That poor Cummins still has an ERG on it, hopefully one day it can be liberated 👍🏻
You're welcome!
Great video helped so much. But, I found if you remove the compressor housing you have good access to the lower lines and you don't have to raise the engine 2015 Ram 2500
Thanks! Good tip!
Good job Wade, have all new respect for you. Everything you said is true
Put performance exaust manifold on my 2018 Ram 3500, much easier with emissions removed.
Great video!!! watched it a few times and just finished swapping mine out. I saved a little time by not removing the NOX sensor, just undo the 2 clamps and take the elbow out the side and set it on the suspension. the only other thing I did different was the bottom cooler line, if you massage the heatshild a little, you can get a 7/8" socket on it to undo it. all in all, one of the best if not the best video for this swap!! thank you!!
Glad it helped! Thanks and you're welcome!
That is a good video and is very descriptive! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Use a bore scope to show the hidden work
You are the man. Video really helped me with my install. Thanks a lot.
You're welcome!
So I put this turbo on my 2018 ram. Everything went smooth, Turbo works great. I installed the fleece drain tube with no added gasket at first( looked like it’s what you did in the video). About 5k miles it started leaking oil. Yesterday I took it off cleaned everything up and added a gasket with a fine line of RTV( used high temp red) … still leaking. I’m going to attack it again this weekend. Any advice as to why it could be leaking? Was going to try a new gasket with oil resistant RTV.
Same thing happened to us. The drain tube does not require another gasket, as there is a recessed o ring in the flange. The first kit we had the bolts in it were too long to make a good seal, you might want to check bolt length. If you need help on this just give us a call.
My Brother how are you doing there with your new Dodge , l am impressed how well and details you explained heviting on, l thank you very much , l do have 1999 Dodge Diesel 2500 , l am going to put a turbo like one but much older with not Egr , God bless you my brother your the best to explain step by step uninstall to put back together l thank you very much for your well video!
Thanks and you're very welcome!
Be nice to see you put one of those fleece cheetahs on your old Duramax, I've got an 02 lb7 was thinking about putting a cheetah on🤠😎👍
Maybe in the future.
@@thoroughbreddiesel I'll be watching for it 👍💪👌
Good evening sir. First, thanks for an incredibly useful video. I'm at the point of lifting the engine up 1" on the passenger side to clear the turbo studs and found that the engine does not pivot upward. Engine mount bolt has at least 1/8" of clearance on each end. What are the possible causes? Thanks in advance for your reply!!!
That is odd. I would suggest loosening the drivers side as well.
Thanks for the answer! Turbo installation was very successful, thanks to your video, no leaks, great performance etc. FYI- I loosened the transmission shock mount bolts and it came right up. My next move would have been the driver side mount bolt as you suggested. Thanks again! B
Great video, going to be doing my turbo soon. Recommend linking your products and listing your tools used used in this video. It makes it easier to locate them.. As I cannot locate the down pipe gasket at 1:01:30 you spoke of having on your site.
Give us a call at 866-380-3068.
Had a technician tell me if i take the battery box completely out then the turbo will come out without lifting the engine. 2017 ram 2500. I this true
Wade I’ve been watching your videos for a long time because you use to have brown hair when to gray and now it’s white, this job is tuff on a old dude . Ha Ha and Iam 68 and tiny bit of gray .
I want you to do a second Gen swap with a Sneed Speed exhaust and a cheats turbo on my 05 3500 6 speed manual 4 door long bed dullay and it is used to haul a 10.6 Bigfoot truck camper so let me know I will pay for all parts and you supply the labor. This will be a good video for your customers !!
I feel like those manifold stud holes are to tight on all of my imports that have had that issues I take a drill and clean the holes up to get rid of the resistance, also yes I own a 2013 cummins so what I wonder would there be an issues with doing the same on the manifold of the truck seems like it would make siding the turbo back on and off much easier
I just did mine by myself and it went up after jiggling a few times. Maybe lucky
You talk about the coolant banjo bolt reinstall being the qorst part. Woulent it make it easier to run that down after placing the turbo in the bay but before attaching? Or does thqt create clearance issues when bolting it up?
You nailed it, and I really wish that you could do it that way. The damn coolant line is only so long and its length and position really only lends itself to being installed once the turbo is at its final resting place, if that makes sense. Chasing the line to hook up at the other end is worse in my opinion.
Was wondering advantages of this turbo ? Hp ? Torque? Website says "increase performance " thanks
Truck setup will determine the HP capabilities of the Cheetah. This one, for the 13-18 Dodges will support up to 700 HP (with the right modifications).
Followed this tutorial, and came out just flawless, took me about 7 hours total.
I do have one question, at 1000rpm I have a rough idle, any ideas?
Any codes? Check codes and look at actual vs. commanded fuel pressure. I don’t think its turbo related but we can help you figure it out.
@thoroughbreddiesel no codes. It's a 18, so I had to order gateway bypass, to check injectors and calibrate vgt module, should be here this weekend
Recalibrate VGT, did a kill test and number 1 was no change to idle or 900RPM
Is there anything else I can check before I tear down, to make sure u replace what needs to be done
i think bringing the turbo from thr bottow is easier
Do you have to Jack or lift engine on a 2019 ram??
The turbo is angled on those trucks and doesn’t have to be lifted.
Can you show how to install it in the 5.9 Cummins
1:22:56 this is the point you come for.
@thoroughbreddiesel did you do anything special for first startup with the new turbo? Some recommend unplugging the injector harness and turning the engine over multiple times for 10 second intervals to get oil pressure at the turbo before first startup. Then plug injector harness back in and start the truck. What do you typically recommend?
We recommend pre oiling the turbo, we also recommend an oil change when changing a turbo. And for that, we change the oil right before changing the turbo, so that the truck doesn’t have extended times without lube.
Is the fleece available in the 23 models, and would I need any additional tuning even though it’s just a drop in vgt?
Give us a call 1-859-737-4966.
What is the advantage of changing out from stock turbo to a cheata?
th-cam.com/video/YiwItqXuySI/w-d-xo.html
So if you do a 2nd gen swap on a 18 ram 6.7. What price range would you be at all in?
Give us a call 866-806-6142.
What kind of your battery operated ratchet what brand is and do you like it ?
It’s a snap on 3/8 ratchet 14.4 volt. I really do like the ratchet, but I haven’t had very good luck with these batteries. I know a lot of guys like them but I haven’t been very impressed. Great ratchet though.
Is lifting the engine absolutely necessary? Could you put a tool list needed for this
Lifting the engine is a must unless you jack up the motor from underneath. You will need to do this so the turbo clears the studs when it comes out.
@@thoroughbreddieselI’ve seen videos that did not do this step.. Going to be working alone so anything to make this easier the better.
The only way to do it without pulling the manifold and the turbo is to lift the motor. If you take the manifold out and want to deal with the 12 gaskets that are behind it also, you don't have to lift the motor.
It’s easier to pull the manifold with the turbo as one unit.
fleece speed sensor is a low cost part? It's $140.00!
Will these steps work for a 2012?
Yes, same pretty much to a T except the wiring harness could be different.
I was looking at the 3000 because you put it on one of the trucks I got on the web and it has a lot of bad reviews it looks like 90% of people likes the s300’s what do yea think
I am very happy with this turbo on my truck, for what I do at less than 400 horse, it does well.
What size I/D for the hose to connect to the drain tube on the radiator? for a 2019+
I think I used a 5/16 line there.
I just had my mechanic install a fleece cheetah on my 2017 cummins 2500.
I feel like I have some pretty good turbo lag till about 2000RPM. Then the truck shoots off like a rocket.
Any chance you guys have some real world numbers for what boost should be? I feel like I can no longer maintain 70mph pulling my utility trailer in 6th gear as the rpms are too low and don't build much boost. Stock turbo always had power when requested. Thanks!
There will be SLIGHT lag between the Cheetah and the stock unit on the bottom end, but much better mid and top range. Any chance you have a boost leak? Check the manifold gasket at the turbo.
Been trying for an hour to get the bolts in on the bottom of the turbo to the fleece oil drain tube. Only way I can see to line up the bolts is under the truck with an extension. If I remove the passenger front tire will I be able to access it?
Do you have the engine lifted still when you install the fleece oil drain tube?
Extension and a universal socket works the best.
Does the fleece cheetah come with a CARB sticker for us that have to smog?
Both models of the 6.7 Dodge Cheetahs have EO numbers and come with the sticker for your truck.
Have a stock 16 ram 3500 if I upgrade to this turbo do I need to reprogram, tune, flash anything? Have a actuator code and figured I'd up garage the whole thing not much more to do so
No reprogram necessary with this turbo and that’s the one of its best features. But the truck runs so much better with tuning that really takes advantage of the performance turbo.
No, it is plug and play.
Was that dent in the intercooler pipe supposed to be there?
Yes, that is factory clearance for the intercooler pipe. Crazy.
@@thoroughbreddiesel that’s horrible. I though for sure it was damaged.
Is there a better intercooler tube available
Yes, we offer upgraded intercooler tubes for these trucks from some great manufacturers. Give us a call.
Question I have a 2018 ram 2500 mega cab it’s already has tunes is there anything that I have to change as far as parameters?
Tuning is not required.
@@thoroughbreddiesel thanks
Where the heck is that coolant drain nipple? Do we remove the bottom bumper skirt to access? Thanks.
I've found it easier to remove the grill. Drain is left and below driver side headlight as you are looking at it behind the rubber flap
Thanks so much for the video I have a 09 3rd gen Cummins is the install the same and does that turbo work for mine or just the 4th gens thanks so much
Here ya go www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/351-0712/
Install should be similar
@@thoroughbreddiesel thank you so much I greatly appreciate it
You're welcome!
Man there is a ton if junk under that hood . Iam sure glad I bought a new Dodge in2005 and there is nothing under my hood is a hard pulling 5.9 been a great truck 1 ton 4 door long bed dullay 4x4 factory 6 speed manual and manual 4x4 selector Laramie.
What's the part # for that shallow 1/4" 10mm wobble?
Snap On TMUSM10A
@thoroughbreddiesel thanks, ordered the whole set!
what a nasty beach
Anyone know how durable this turbo is ?
We highly recommend it!
Looks like a nightmare. 64.5 sxe with t4 mount went into my obs 7.3 way easier
What about how you got a torque wrench in those tight spaces?
It's a challenge!
did you ever get your six pieces of bacon???
😂
I'm sorry there is no such thing a just a drop in. 6 plus hours isn't drop in
@@ronportillo3851 Changed out my stock Hollset with a new one in 3 hours on my 5.9 in just over 3 hours in the hotel parking lot.
Take all that other junk off too
Sixth 👊🏻💪🏻
Hey Dixie Mae.... missed you!
@@thoroughbreddiesel be driving through later this morning 🚛💨
Wouldn't a good Bank's air intake compliment this turbo?
Definately! Here you go: www.thoroughbreddiesel.com/banks-monster-ram-intake-system/