DOUBLE YOUR TROUBLE! Modern Gruul Shamans. Explosive Rage Forger Harmonic Prodigy Meat Grinder MTG

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  • @wolfetrax
    @wolfetrax 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Yes! This was one of my favorite decks to play in paper before fury really took over and now that I am able to play on MTGO, this was one of the first decks I built, in paper and online. This is gonna be a good episode!

  • @jakehr3
    @jakehr3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    9 4-ofs and 1 2-of, that's called just good old fashion deck building right there
    Love to see just how streamlined this deck is for the shaman strategy

  • @GellyGelbertson
    @GellyGelbertson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    6:45 unexpected benefit of recent bannings: you can now use the word "fury" and it doesn't cause pain

  • @kevink.8809
    @kevink.8809 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    One of my favorite tribes ever. The deck has a lot of flexibility as far as how you construct it. And it pushes crazy stupid damage. Lot of fun! Great video!

    • @robh9075
      @robh9075 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I only play red really because well it's the only colour worth playing but I am certainly going to mess around with it some more, soon as I get some more rares to craft the missing cards for the deck.

  • @ZoltarDeathNnja
    @ZoltarDeathNnja 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I love this deck. I run a similar build with 4x Essence Warden, 4x Flamekin Harbinger, and 2x Ewit instead of 4x Ewit, 2x Fable, 4x Bolt. My bolts are in the sideboard.
    Mine is pretty much a modern carbon copy of ThrabenU's legacy TRIGGERS shaman deck (the first time it was brewed and trophy'd)

  • @firedrake110
    @firedrake110 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I love how fun and interesting this deck is. I've spent a bit of time looking over the options for Shaman creatures in modern, and I think I've got a few bangers that might be worthwhile for anyone else that's considering this explosive pile of cards XD
    The first option is including the classic bastard magic card Burning-Tree Shaman. This bad boy kicks Yawgmoth and Hardened Scales players right in their teeth, eating up a lot of life rapidly, while also sitting outside of standard 1-mana interaction range. They'll have to revolt their Fatal Push, or specifically Grist and throw a creature at it. This entry comes with a bonus suggestion, in case 3 mana is too much and you'd prefer to get lower to the ground with a 2-drop instead: Immolation Shaman. It still punishes land, artifact, and creature abilities, but only from your opponent, and it comes stock with Menace. At the very least consider including a few of these instead of that wacky blue Orvar in your board, if you don't want to think too hard about changes to the main deck.
    The next, and most spicy suggestion I'll be making, is Keldon Flamesage. This bad boy has Enlist, so you can tap a creature whenever it attack to boost it's power, and then you get to look at the top X (X= it's power) cards of your deck and cast a free instant or sorcery from among them, as long as it too costs X or less. The big thing here is that, while we obviously don't have a ton of non-creature spells, we REALLY want to put a collected company on the stack, and the deck is full of 2-power creatures you don't want dying that you can freely tap to boost the Flamesage into CoCo range.
    Finally, after watching the deck get stuck in the mud repeatedly and weeping inwardly at how mana variance really beats up decks like these, I have a dangerous, highly illegal suggestion in a world where Orcish Bowmasters exist: Sensation Gorger. Who DOESN'T love revealing the top card of their library and forcing everyone to discard their hand to draw four new cards if it's a goblin or shaman? I know I do. It's not even mandatory, there are two separate instances of the word "may" in the ability text! You're not a coward, are you? As an extra upside, sometimes you'll make an opponent discard their 6-7 card hand on turn three and they might just have a heart attack on the spot >=D

    • @drpibisback7680
      @drpibisback7680 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I don't know if replacing Orvar is where you want to go with Immolation Shaman, Orvar is generally tech against Creativity decks - they cheat in Archon of Cruelty, you discard Orvar to the trigger and kill their Archon with your Orvar copying theirs. Immolation Shaman doesn't do a whole lot against that.

    • @firedrake110
      @firedrake110 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@drpibisback7680 that's a great bit of tech, wow

  • @musicalcacti
    @musicalcacti 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hello!

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Hello!

  • @Goosegoosegoose24
    @Goosegoosegoose24 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mtg player that finally coming around to modern play and this video was great! Loved your familiarity with the deck and your synergies. Well done!

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Welcome to Modern!

  • @ericdravenashecorven
    @ericdravenashecorven 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oof, that first game against Hardened Scales was fun. I played the deck for almost two years and I miss Affinity Math. Even without the Zabaz draw, seeing that line with saccing the Ballista to counter-up the Ravager/Ozolith to get around the Bolt gave me the good brain chemicals. I haven't played since Agatha's Soul Cauldron was printed but also seeing your opponent able to throw Infect damage after the attack with Soul Cauldron/Ballista's ability on Inkmoth was a nice little realization.
    Ah, I miss playing Robots. I should put it back together at some point.

  • @janmelantu7490
    @janmelantu7490 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    How do you feel about Seasoned Pyromancer in this shell? Card selection/draw that gets doubled by Prodigy.

  • @firedrake110
    @firedrake110 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Damn, when the deck actually draws Collected Company, it goes UGLY for the opponents

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Maybe I should try 6 of them next time.

    • @AaronRotenberg
      @AaronRotenberg 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@BoshNRoll Obviously you just need to splash triple white for Kayla's Reconstruction.

  • @AaronW315
    @AaronW315 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Brian! This is aaron! We drove down together to GP Atlanta with Doug and Dre. Truly ancient times. I remember playing UW baneslayer that tournament. Deglamor being the insane tech.

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I had to find 2 Safe Passage on site to cast off my Murmuring Bosk because I couldn’t beat Valakut haha

    • @AaronW315
      @AaronW315 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@BoshNRoll wow that safe passage tech just blasted me in the face from the past.

  • @MorbusIRO
    @MorbusIRO 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I tried this in arena timeless, having acces to Deathrite shaman helps to the lack of ignoble and also added Ojer Taq on top, making any attack deadly.

  • @derekcline950
    @derekcline950 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Glad to see this deck cut Flamekin Harbinger and move the elementals to the board. It always felt really slow.

  • @ContraMagic
    @ContraMagic 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Round 3 as you are cutting Boseiju, my mind is screaming soul cauldron. You caught it quickly. 😅

  • @Interesting_Failure
    @Interesting_Failure 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Deckbuilding is weird sometimes. It's interesting how DRC is a shaman, powerful in the format, AND has a useful trigger for prodigy to double but doesn't really work here because delirium is too hard and making it easier would junk up the deck in other ways.

  • @ThingsareLikeable
    @ThingsareLikeable 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    omggggg such a blast from the past. i loved this deck when modern first came out it was so janky

  • @robh9075
    @robh9075 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just started fiddling with this archetype in Historic on MTGA, I am using Commune with Nature so I can dig a little deeper and find a good threat on T1. I am also testing Seasoned Pyromancer as well.

  • @Crimmando
    @Crimmando 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The ships passing, and the huge advantage of being on the play in Modern is why I’ve always liked Legacy so much more.

  • @grnman86
    @grnman86 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I propose we call this twist of a deck M. Night Shamanlan

  • @chadoftoons
    @chadoftoons 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the videos as always

  • @luna6315
    @luna6315 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love that this is just a fully legal historic deck except for catacombs and i think ewit mainboard wise

    • @tylergoerlich9494
      @tylergoerlich9494 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rage forger is in historic?

    • @luna6315
      @luna6315 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tylergoerlich9494 yep!

  • @jochenkirn9468
    @jochenkirn9468 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly, I like the Legacy leagues so much more. The Modern metagame seems so samey every single time. Does the Legacy metagame just feel more diverse to me? Do brews hold up better in Legacy? Do they have better answers?

  • @DARKLIGHTNING7
    @DARKLIGHTNING7 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh is a great 3 drop shamen to hit off Coco, just sayin' (in case no one has experimented with her yet)

  • @RumpledNutskin
    @RumpledNutskin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm just glad to see CoCo in modern again

  • @vantharion
    @vantharion 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    40:26 why not play Rage Forger? You put two +1/+1 on your 2/1 and 3/3, making them 4+5 power. Then you attack and get 2+2 1 damage triggers. Opponent is at 12 life?

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup, good call. Probably just locked in on double spelling and didn't account for the cost reduction.

  • @nooneatall5612
    @nooneatall5612 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I was really surprised about how coherent this list looked. I don't like anarchomancer and emissary in this deck.

  • @l337ath3ist
    @l337ath3ist 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    We ❤ BoshNRoll! Happy new year!

  • @skullrocker8022
    @skullrocker8022 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    since it's a similar playstyle to this deck, have you thought about checking out thunderkin awakener/lightning skelemental decks? There's a fair number of ways to take it (scam, jund with coco, full rakdos aggro, etc.), and I'd like to see what you think of it. Bloodthorn flail from LCI has been great with the deck

  • @tsimehcMTG
    @tsimehcMTG 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Shaman-manah - Gruul, Gruul, Gruul, Gruul.

  • @firedrake110
    @firedrake110 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sometimes you just have half the lands in your deck across your hand, board, and bin while your deck still has 44 cards left in it, and that's ok.

  • @raevimati7048
    @raevimati7048 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I almost feel like playing chord of calling over coco would make the deck better, you get to play more fables and generically good cards

  • @joshua_lee732
    @joshua_lee732 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im curious how portable this is to Legacy? How many decks can handle a full force aggro deck? Just curious because of how powerful goblins have shown to be

  • @GGun1t
    @GGun1t 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    22 lands seems like a little too many for this deck

  • @MTG_Ronin
    @MTG_Ronin 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thoughts on veil of summer in this?

  • @druharris6974
    @druharris6974 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah this deck is kinda nuts, a friend of mine made a jund variant of this list and its pretty OD. If you dont have an answer to the prodigies amd the CoCos they literally will just run you over.

  • @DanielLivant
    @DanielLivant 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude I was literally watching this last night. Are you in my house?

  • @xxiirraann
    @xxiirraann 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why didn't they make harmonic prodigy a shaman!!!

  • @Isaac-pg2hm
    @Isaac-pg2hm 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your scales opp missed so many easy lethals 😂

  • @deviljay3574
    @deviljay3574 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At 6:29 what in the world is giving the Harmonic Prodigy the +1/+1 counter? What am I missing???

    • @BoshNRoll
      @BoshNRoll  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It has prowess. There’s no counter, just +1/+1

    • @deviljay3574
      @deviljay3574 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ok damn that's right. I was racking my brain here. 👍

  • @Reversespacehippie
    @Reversespacehippie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Obligatory algorithmic contribution

  • @elijahlyons8164
    @elijahlyons8164 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BANG

  • @LucksackGames
    @LucksackGames 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Triggertriggertriggertriggertriggertriggertriggertriggertriggertrigger

  • @anthonyzheng7274
    @anthonyzheng7274 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    looks like a fun budget deck until you see cavern of souls and fetch lands, $$$$ ouch

    • @drpibisback7680
      @drpibisback7680 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The unfortunate nature of all the money being in the landbases is that budget decks, instead of being unusual strategies, are usually just "real decks" with bad manabases.

  • @9forMortalMen
    @9forMortalMen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this deck, but it’s so bad :(

  • @Caludot
    @Caludot 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Modern so boring compared to legacy xd

  • @Strawberrycock309
    @Strawberrycock309 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been enjoying seeing more and more modern on the channel!

    • @Dracomandriuthus
      @Dracomandriuthus 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Likely because they were delayed until after eternal weekend