Still a tuner. After a fellow expert in this discord answered in A lot of detail. Unclassified effects are applied when summoned. If effects are gained and are already applied via an unclassified effect such as name change, or becoming a tuner, veiler will not be able to negate it.
7:15 Tombox, when I play Duel Links, if you use Ms. Judge on a fiendish chain, it only negates the first effect of fiendish chain (which negates a face-up monster, continuous) and the second effect (which doesn't let you attack, continuous) isn't negated. How does this work? If also connects the two effects into 1 effect like you're saying at 7:15 then shouldn't Ms Judge negate the whole effect of fiendish, like how ash is negating the second part of nadir servant? This is going to sound dumb, but is it because fiendish chain doesn't have a comma following also, meaning the two effects aren't turned into 1 effect like in Nadir Servant? When I go on yugipedia, it shows that the nadir servant has only 1 effect, thus like you're saying the also, turned it into 1 effect, but on fiendish chain it shows 2 continous effects even though it has an also conjunction, but no comma.
Question about punishment. If you activate it and target a monster, let’s just assume raye for ease, your opponent chains raye, we know that you can’t dump anything from the extra and obviously nothing is destroyed. Does the extra deck restriction still apply in that case?
Hey, i know this video is so old but i have another question for Dogmatika Fleurdelis: its effects says, that the summon and the effect negation aren't happening simoultaneously (bc of the word "then"). But if i have for example a millennium eyes restrict on the field and my opponent plays Fleurdelis, can i negate the effect of Fleurdelis negating a monsters effect?
My opp activates divine sword Phoenix blade I chain ravenous crocosaur eff to pop immortal Phoenix gearfried can he chain immortal eff even though there weren’t any other equips on the board besides the Phoenix blade there trying to activate ?
It's because you can only activate certain effects during the damage step, typically effects that modulate stats (e.g. Rush Recklessly or Lost Wind) or things that negate the activation of effects (e.g. Toadally Awesome or Solemn Strike). There are others too (for the full list here's a resource yugipedia.com/wiki/Damage_Step ), but that's the short gist of it. Because Ghost Ogre does not meet any of the criteria for cards that can be activated during the damage step, it cannot be activated. That's it, really.
please help me with this ruling questions if I use Dshifter card effects that says sind this card do something or send X card do something are negated? if my opponent has borrel savage with tokens and use 1 to negate one of my cards and I chain tripleT and use the change of heart effect do I get the borrel savage with the remaining tokens?
If a card specifically says that "You can send X cards to the GY" as COST specifically, then you cannot use those cards while D Shifter is in effect If you take control of borreload Savage, it keeps the counters on it
But, the Nadir card says after this card resolves, you cannot SS from your extra deck. Since Ash stopped it from resolving, and the use of your Extra deck was only cutoff if the card resolves, why is the SS from the Extra deck shut off?
It's not shut off. Ash negated the whole thing. Because of the conjunction, Also, connected the 2 effects together. If it was a separate sentence Ash would not stop it. Resolving a card doesn't necessarily need it to resolve successfully
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The also makes it so that the effects do not rely on each other to resolve, true. But none of them say "you can" not make any part of it optional... So if they cannot send, you cannot activate. If u already activated, and then they resolved something else to mod that number, you still send but they won't.
So if you activate maximus and send nova, you can summon mechaba out of your extra deck? From your explanation, I understand the opponent can but what about the player controlling maximus? Maximus states in his card text you cannot special summon from the extra deck for the rest of the turn. Some clarification would be nice here please :)
Ur opponent can, you cannot! 2 things here, 1, sent to graveyard in your possession, 2, by your Opponents cards effect. If you send it yourself it doesn't work. Does that answer the question?
Hey Tombox, hope you feel better had a question about shaddoll schism. The way I read the card is that the first effect is not once per turn only the second effect is. Are you able to use the first effect of schism more than once?
Shaddoll Schism.. Man why you PSCT so messy... It seems that way but the 2nd part of the effect relies on the first and the 2nd part doesn't even activate and occurs during the first effect. I need some clarity on this.
@@MSTTV hahaha we were thrown off by the wording too thats why I had to ask. It says this effect and not the effect. We read it as you can schism send and then schism but you cant send the second time.
No coz ur monster cant be effected by a card effect but super poly cant be affected either but since super poly is targeting ur monster which cant be effected he cant use super poly on that monster
no, it cannot affect monsters that are either unaffected by spells, spells/traps and/or card effects. it is the _effect_ of super polymerization that is attempting to use monsters on both sides of the field and if your opponent’s monster is unaffected, then your super polymerization cannot affect it to be used as material.
@@yuseifudo8874 you can't as super Poly is still use it effect to use your opponent monsters. Same reason you can't use super poly on Dark magician under eternal souls or on ultimate Falcon.
Dude, love your vids, but rest. I’d rather you be healthy and post later than put your health at risk for yugioh. Respect the passion though. Stay safe, and feel better.
MST.TV Oh yeah you’re right, because they could just normal summon a monster that they can get into Almiraj and then go into secure Gardina and then pop off from there. Edit; unless you solemn their normal summon, but they could just bait that out and still use Invocation to get into Mechaba
"Idk why I have to explain basic yugioh" hmmm *maybe because* considering the fact that this is one of the few resources out here that TALKS ABOUT THIS SHIT? you're literally bashing you're own place here on youtube, and in the yugioh community. if your position bothers you so much then do something else? that's very condescending, when helping players.
Is Renaud still a Tuner is SSed by its own effect but gets Impermed/Veiler'd?
Still a tuner.
After a fellow expert in this discord answered in A lot of detail.
Unclassified effects are applied when summoned. If effects are gained and are already applied via an unclassified effect such as name change, or becoming a tuner, veiler will not be able to negate it.
Tom you don't sound too good man. Wish you the best and a speedy recovery. Rest my dude, we will await your return
It is important to also make sure players are aware that if you summon Renaud off Isolde, he does not become a tuner. Its only off his own effect
This is so helpful normally I would use automated dueling but these vids help me have the confidence to use stuff like duelingbook
Hope u feel better
The Ryu has me crying haha. Feel better man!
I hope You get well soon and just remember your vids are amazing!
7:15 Tombox, when I play Duel Links, if you use Ms. Judge on a fiendish chain, it only negates the first effect of fiendish chain (which negates a face-up monster, continuous) and the second effect (which doesn't let you attack, continuous) isn't negated.
How does this work? If also connects the two effects into 1 effect like you're saying at 7:15 then shouldn't Ms Judge negate the whole effect of fiendish, like how ash is negating the second part of nadir servant?
This is going to sound dumb, but is it because fiendish chain doesn't have a comma following also, meaning the two effects aren't turned into 1 effect like in Nadir Servant? When I go on yugipedia, it shows that the nadir servant has only 1 effect, thus like you're saying the also, turned it into 1 effect, but on fiendish chain it shows 2 continous effects even though it has an also conjunction, but no comma.
My prayers are with with you Tom box and I'll be praying for you everyday until you get!
0:19 when you lose the hot wing challenge again
Friend of mine at work plays Infernoble and while I don't think he's done anything illegal I'll definitely keep this stuff in mind!
Question about punishment. If you activate it and target a monster, let’s just assume raye for ease, your opponent chains raye, we know that you can’t dump anything from the extra and obviously nothing is destroyed. Does the extra deck restriction still apply in that case?
If I have two fleurdelis can I special summon them both while I have an extra deck monster on field too?
Thanks Tom
I wish the best for your health bro. You're a champion.
In a Dogmatika mirror match, how do they decide, which player sends their monsters first?
So if I equip a Gearfried with Charles effect can I use Gearfrieds negate effect?
Hey, i know this video is so old but i have another question for Dogmatika Fleurdelis: its effects says, that the summon and the effect negation aren't happening simoultaneously (bc of the word "then"). But if i have for example a millennium eyes restrict on the field and my opponent plays Fleurdelis, can i negate the effect of Fleurdelis negating a monsters effect?
Can you used both renaud effects if you ss it, from the hand with it own effect?
Thanks for the vid, u a trooper man! Feel better
My opp activates divine sword Phoenix blade I chain ravenous crocosaur eff to pop immortal Phoenix gearfried can he chain immortal eff even though there weren’t any other equips on the board besides the Phoenix blade there trying to activate ?
No one will hate you for taking a break TB....rest!
Thanks for the ruling on the Nadir Ash resolution gamestate
Im french, and i don't understand dogmatika punishement rulling, could you give more information pls
Damn tom box hope you feel better
Hope you feel better man 🖤
Hoping you feel better soon
Guy hit me in a remote duel with the gearfried attacking again after taking the target. Good to know that cannot be done
Tombox, i wish u speedy recovery, always health first ^^
Feel better, Tombox! Gotta take care of yourself, man.
My opponent couldn't chain his ghost belle to my double evo pill and that seemed weird to me.
Why can you not destroy IP Gearfried during damage with Ghost Ogre if it is a direct response to its effect? Is it because it says “when” and not “if”
It's because you can only activate certain effects during the damage step, typically effects that modulate stats (e.g. Rush Recklessly or Lost Wind) or things that negate the activation of effects (e.g. Toadally Awesome or Solemn Strike). There are others too (for the full list here's a resource yugipedia.com/wiki/Damage_Step ), but that's the short gist of it.
Because Ghost Ogre does not meet any of the criteria for cards that can be activated during the damage step, it cannot be activated. That's it, really.
I have a question, can someone ash uni-zombi for the first effect that sends from hand?
Feel better tombox
Hope you get well
please help me with this ruling questions
if I use Dshifter card effects that says sind this card do something or send X card do something are negated?
if my opponent has borrel savage with tokens and use 1 to negate one of my cards and I chain tripleT and use the change of heart effect do I get the borrel savage with the remaining tokens?
If a card specifically says that "You can send X cards to the GY" as COST specifically, then you cannot use those cards while D Shifter is in effect
If you take control of borreload Savage, it keeps the counters on it
Can a red eyes deck use infernoble knights as an engine cuz of red eyes slash?
Possibly
But, the Nadir card says after this card resolves, you cannot SS from your extra deck. Since Ash stopped it from resolving, and the use of your Extra deck was only cutoff if the card resolves, why is the SS from the Extra deck shut off?
It's not shut off. Ash negated the whole thing. Because of the conjunction, Also, connected the 2 effects together.
If it was a separate sentence Ash would not stop it.
Resolving a card doesn't necessarily need it to resolve successfully
@@MSTTV Okay. I see. I guess I misheard what you said. I thought you said the extra deck would be cut off. By the way, I hope you feel better soon.
Wise man once said: "when you die, the pain is felt by your family n love ones. Same thing when your stupid." Don't go to events without knowing the yugioh basics. Thats why yugioh is recommended for ages 6+
LMAO
Yeah, good luck teaching 6 year olds all these rulings.
@@JABRIEL251 good luck having a 6 years old that doesn't play set 3 mirror force, set a 2000+vanilla
@@erichp9896 lol
@@erichp9896 the true meta play of 2020
For Dogmatika Maximus, since it's an 'also' conjuction neither A or B are required for one another, thus you should still get the effect no?
The also makes it so that the effects do not rely on each other to resolve, true. But none of them say "you can" not make any part of it optional... So if they cannot send, you cannot activate.
If u already activated, and then they resolved something else to mod that number, you still send but they won't.
So if you activate maximus and send nova, you can summon mechaba out of your extra deck? From your explanation, I understand the opponent can but what about the player controlling maximus? Maximus states in his card text you cannot special summon from the extra deck for the rest of the turn. Some clarification would be nice here please :)
Ur opponent can, you cannot!
2 things here,
1, sent to graveyard in your possession,
2, by your Opponents cards effect.
If you send it yourself it doesn't work.
Does that answer the question?
@@MSTTV Yes, thank you! Get well soon Tombox.
Hope you feel better soon @tombox
Get better soon!
can you ghost belle the immortal gearfreed when it attempts to summon from hand?
No, banish for cost. Not an effect
Hope you feel better, buddy.
Hey Tombox, hope you feel better had a question about shaddoll schism. The way I read the card is that the first effect is not once per turn only the second effect is. Are you able to use the first effect of schism more than once?
Shaddoll Schism.. Man why you PSCT so messy... It seems that way but the 2nd part of the effect relies on the first and the 2nd part doesn't even activate and occurs during the first effect. I need some clarity on this.
@@MSTTV hahaha we were thrown off by the wording too thats why I had to ask. It says this effect and not the effect. We read it as you can schism send and then schism but you cant send the second time.
Thanks tom box
Can you dark ruler no more / mystic mine monsters that are unaffected by card effects?
Dark ruler no more.. no it won't affect it.
Mystic Mine affects the player's option to do something. They are affecting player not the monster.
Thank you!
Thanks a looooooooot!
I have question can my oponentt super poly on my unefected monster
Yes, I think. Since its not a Targeting effect and its a Summoning requirement.
No coz ur monster cant be effected by a card effect but super poly cant be affected either but since super poly is targeting ur monster which cant be effected he cant use super poly on that monster
Can you specific Card that ?
no, it cannot affect monsters that are either unaffected by spells, spells/traps and/or card effects. it is the _effect_ of super polymerization that is attempting to use monsters on both sides of the field and if your opponent’s monster is unaffected, then your super polymerization cannot affect it to be used as material.
@@yuseifudo8874 you can't as super Poly is still use it effect to use your opponent monsters. Same reason you can't use super poly on Dark magician under eternal souls or on ultimate Falcon.
Lol you can ghost belle hysteric sign even if there is no elegant egotist in grave which is bull!
Good video dude
Soooo... if Nadir servant gets ashed, you can still summon from the extra deck, correct?
Answer wasn’t super clear sorry
It's part of 1 effect so u can the lock is part of the effe t Ash negates whole thing
MST.TV ok so you can still summon, thank you!
Hahah, charles totally stops mystic mine. Just loop it out of there hand before it can be activdted
Not if they draw it :) off the top
Dude, love your vids, but rest. I’d rather you be healthy and post later than put your health at risk for yugioh. Respect the passion though. Stay safe, and feel better.
If i ash Gamma, can my opponent activate the same Gamma later that dame turn? Both times the opponent had no monsters. Also, great vid, keep it up!
Yes, gamma is not once per turn
@@Butternutsquash3 but does he stay in-hand if u ash him?
@@TheRoseCat6_11 yes
@@Butternutsquash3 alrighy, thx
Why can no one pronounce schism properly? It's skiz-um not shizum.
I think it's coz it's more meme that way like some dank religion
how does alstolfo even work
Just remember to maintain game state and all will make sense.
I hate sore throats, I feel you Tombox.
I have a stomach ulcer lol
sorry, bad earbuds
Saw the thumbnail and thought it was a deck profile. Both relieved and dissapointed lol
Haha Imagine a combo deck that finishes with Dogmatika.
So much burritos xD i hope you get well men
Are you ok
Tomboxs hope u get will soon dude
Do you think Dinos are the best anti Dragma deck seen as they don’t rely on their extra deck?
Dragma doesn't need ur opponent to use the extra deck, they just need to use it themselves to get negation and set up winda locks...
MST.TV
Oh yeah you’re right, because they could just normal summon a monster that they can get into Almiraj and then go into secure Gardina and then pop off from there.
Edit; unless you solemn their normal summon, but they could just bait that out and still use Invocation to get into Mechaba
Finally says ogier right
Dogmatika + something = a deck
Y’all wanna know a spicy blackwing tech
Play Charles in main deck
James Finucane you know what I meant
Don't let your health otk you bro.!!! Handtrap that health issue
its was a longgggggg game its winning the grind
Sup man!!!!
hey tombox. dont die. kthxbye
Get better my guy
Nice to see the rullings do more. But once again no Trickstar. Day 6 of walting for Trickstar support
Sound like rona 🤔
get some rest, man
Vitamin c my dude sorry ur sick
Tombox looks like a Ryu player smh
EXcuse me? I'm so V Triggered right now! I'm a Cammy player
"Idk why I have to explain basic yugioh" hmmm *maybe because*
considering the fact that this is one of the few resources out here that TALKS ABOUT THIS SHIT?
you're literally bashing you're own place here on youtube, and in the yugioh community. if your position bothers you so much then do something else? that's very condescending, when helping players.