Genshin Impact | The Prototype Solution

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  • @Obdiah
    @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    #FIXTHEDROPRATES

    • @hakiman3167
      @hakiman3167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      #FIXTHEDROPRATES

    • @cultured2535
      @cultured2535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bruh I’ve been playing since launch and never got a prototype drop from the bosses. Unfortunately I have both a prototype grudge and whiteblind at refinement 2 cause I’m dumb.

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cultured2535 Dude that's freaking terrible. I got myself a R2 Whiteblind. But I feel for ya man. When the game dropped there was a lot of misleading information, and I thought Noelle was one of the best characters in the game. Yep.

    • @kaibutse
      @kaibutse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i would rather have there to be at least 3 times limit for world bosses( dragon, childe, wolf).

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaibutse Do you mean as in you can claim rewards from the bosses up to 3 times, or a prototype pity every 3 times? If about the pity, I agree. If about the bosses, then it would never happen. The last ting Mihoyo wants to do is make it easier for whales to level up talents, so it wouldn't work out probably.

  • @MalevolentGort
    @MalevolentGort 3 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    The prototype rarity says it’s 4 but in reality it’s 6 that’s stuff harder to get then a gravestone

    • @OddsShroom
      @OddsShroom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can confirm, I got gravestone before getting any new prototypes in the past couple months

    • @straawberryfieldsforever
      @straawberryfieldsforever 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      For real, I had the time to pull 5 different 5 stars characters but I only got 1 prototype, which was a catalyst. And of course none of my 5 stars are catalysts..

    • @paklekj4429
      @paklekj4429 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@straawberryfieldsforever i need catalyst prototype i want to make the frostbearer

    • @azharaziz2837
      @azharaziz2837 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I got gravestone as a beginner before my prototype weapon or Bishil/prototype

    • @Icyrice
      @Icyrice 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      more like 60

  • @iqmilhaqeem496
    @iqmilhaqeem496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Why not just add prototypes to the star glitter shop

  • @miomiow__
    @miomiow__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    A note to remember: You can get prototypes from souvenir shop in liyue and mondstadt, but you can only get them once

    • @LeivenFrestea
      @LeivenFrestea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and a note: Make sure you make all weapons, don't make the same weapon, this will be handy in-case you want a support weapon or DPS/Sub-DPS weapon

    • @Jeff-rm3ry
      @Jeff-rm3ry 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@LeivenFrestea all ready made this mistake when I wanted a whiteblind for Noelle

    • @LeivenFrestea
      @LeivenFrestea 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jeff-rm3ry big rip then

  • @MalevolentGort
    @MalevolentGort 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Your the only one that I’ve seen address this no one else does because the TH-camrs summon weapons so they don’t need ftp weapons

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It's an important issue for ftp players as well :( Hopefully prototype rates will get a increase or a pity one.

    • @frippy9473
      @frippy9473 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s been 3 years… we’re suffering in natlan f2p builds

  • @XvAstarisk
    @XvAstarisk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +111

    Hope they would increase the chance of getting a prototype

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Yeah the rates are way too low, I've gotten more 5 stars than prototypes, which makes perfect sense.

    • @cakephone7893
      @cakephone7893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want to refine prototype rancour to max refine,but now i never get prototype-_-

  • @lazyrebel5019
    @lazyrebel5019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Fun fact: I have gotten more world boss specific drops (dvalins claw and etc.) than prototypes. I really hate these world bosses, they're only available once a week, you'd think they would have good loot. The only good reward these world bosses give to f2p players is the weekly quest exp. for the battle pass.

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol the BP exp and talent material are the only reason why the weekly bosses are worth spending resin. Really wish that they would make prototypes less rare as well.

  • @FreshSpartin117
    @FreshSpartin117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I like the last option and the pitty system. Can technically incorporate both into same system. Such as if you don't get a prototype from the three bosses for the week you get tokens to use so you can buy the prototype. You can get more tokens by completing sections of spiral abyss which will be more lucrative spot to farm the tokens

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      At this point I just want Mihoyo to do something, it is dumb how hard it is to get a single proto drop... preferably the token idea.

    • @FreshSpartin117
      @FreshSpartin117 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Obdiah yeah man its really rough. That 5 star idea is really good too. Like part of an event thing that lasts like a month where each week you have to obtain stuff. Rates for 5* weapons are horrible as well so can fix alot with your ideas

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FreshSpartin117 yeah hopefully they see this video and decide to implement one of these ideas. Thank you for the support!

  • @reacreations
    @reacreations 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    another idea would be the battle pass, like they add 10 more levels to it and one thing they add is a box similar to the weapon one except you get to choose a proto mat, or it just gives you a random one either way it would kill 2 birds with 1 stone by giving a reasonably consistent way to get protos and add to the battle pass which is something a looot of people have been beggin for
    in regards to the pity system one way they could go about doin it is make it so if the boss doesnt drop a proto that it'll drop somethin like proto shards or proto scraps or somethin and if you gather enough of them you can take them to the blacksmith to craft a random proto, or if you save a lot of them also have the option to select which proto is made....or simply let the scraps be used as a substitute for them if you have enough, theres many ways that could go

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There are definitely a lot of ways this issue can be handled but I really like your suggestions, if they decide to expand the battlepass with prototypes it's a win-win. Also the idea of proto shards or fragments would be awesome too.

    • @luqmanazli4450
      @luqmanazli4450 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well about the battlepass... what if we do like the paid battlepass but it's chosen prototype?

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@luqmanazli4450 That would depend on mihoyo. Personally I would like to see it on the free BP since prototypes drops are a problem for everyone. So hopefully they could implement something like this...

  • @zhao343
    @zhao343 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was like “I need to build my Noelle.. need a shield for my Xiao” but then I realized I already used my 2 claymore prototypes so I can’t even get White blind anymore...

  • @capraztai6978
    @capraztai6978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The people talking about the really good topics involving Genshin aren't getting nearly as much exposure as they should honestly

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks! It was surprising to see almost no one speaking up about these types of issues that affect everyone. Content for Genshin can be summed up in 3 categories of "Horn e", Guides, and "Summoning for my views for the 100th time". I try to make videos that are fun, informative, or that are important to me, but guides are not my calling in life lol, Albedo was enough.

  • @cakephone7893
    @cakephone7893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    When i get prototype polearm from Childe boss fight at AR 45 be like:
    "Is this real?Am i dreaming?"

  • @jahbruce99
    @jahbruce99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What if, when imazuma comes out. Some of reputation rewards could be recipes to make prototypes, which would all list.
    10 diamond chunks
    12 white iron chunks
    5 iron chunks.
    Here's how it would work. Every even numbered rank, we'd obtain a prototype recipe .
    The order would be:
    2.catalyst
    4.bow
    6.polearm
    8.sword
    10.claymore

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that's a great idea! There would definetely have to be limits placed on how many you can craft in a week(or month). Hopefully we can see something like this in the future!

    • @jahbruce99
      @jahbruce99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Obdiah taking that in, and following the concept. I'd say it's best to be able to make five prototypes in total every month. So your can make one of each until the Same day next month.
      Or five of your preferred prototype.

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jahbruce99 That would be really nice for us. Knowing how Mihoyo does things, it may end up being three total, or some weird restriction on crafting. Hopefully you can make the prototypes you want, rather than one of each too.

    • @jahbruce99
      @jahbruce99 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Obdiah well the idea for crafting prototypes up to five times cam from the fact that in 1.4, we can hold up to five pieces of condensed resin. Idk rlly

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jahbruce99 lol it's fine, i'm not trying to harp on ya or anything. I think your idea is great regardless of how many protos we can craft. Just being able to, on a consistent basis would be huge by itself.

  • @mouses_HK
    @mouses_HK 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    1.3 is next month, if they don't fix these BS drop rates or do something about them like add your solutions It's gonna be so disappointing. I don't even wanna waste my resin on weekly bosses anymore. I have to use up all of it and then don't even get the thing i want from all three bosses...
    Mihoyo needs to listen to you

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for the support! I hope they do something. My ideas are just options but, Mihoyo just needs to do anything at this point lol. Literally the only reason I farm Weekly Bosses is for talent material. Then I go farm mora leylines, cuz talents upgrades make me poorer than Zhongli.

    • @1_Trident
      @1_Trident 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      *About that...*

    • @mouses_HK
      @mouses_HK 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1_Trident They reduced it to 30 and also allows us to purchase transient resin at trust rank 6 weekly, so it's good and all, but it still doesn't fix the shitty drop rates.

  • @thegopnikdankknight4801
    @thegopnikdankknight4801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yay I was featured!
    I really liked the development of the Idea you had! A lot of people (like me) don't really like grinding Abyss... you know, too meta game, wrong character bad day... but adding the prototypes to a extent to the Abyss would not only make it more desirable, but profitable as well!
    _But definetly fixing the droprates is my favorite one like c'mon Mihoyo Im wasting away 180 resin to get what some gladiator sets? C'mon I could have done something useful._

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Abyss is currently the most tragic part of my life lol. I've been struggling to beat let alone 6 star floor 12, so if they added some incentives like Abyss sigils, it would make it much easier to smile through the pain.
      At least I hope they fix the drop rates, because I'm stuck here looking at the new claymore sword, and frostbearer, haha just.. just looking.

    • @thegopnikdankknight4801
      @thegopnikdankknight4801 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Obdiah Haha... just looking... definetly not crying over the 180 resin I wasted for nothing... haha... *Sniff*

  • @vinitsurve9024
    @vinitsurve9024 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The game is time consuming especially enhancing weapons very hard to max out the level of it.

  • @Kenfusi0n
    @Kenfusi0n 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I swear they lowered the rates even more it’s been forever since I got a prototype

  • @senpieson9865
    @senpieson9865 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that you could use a system like enhancement were you could add like up to 100 we opens and the weapons get turned into materials with a small chance like maybe a little less than one percent chance to get a nothlander billet( max like five per week) but higher level weapons like leveled up weapons and purples will yield somthing like a 4 or 5percent chance to drop the billets, then from there after you roll the billet by base all of the billets have a 20% chance to come from a weapon that rolled a billet. But you can chant the bias by using a selector for one of the five so when your trying the level something up you can try to get the billets you need but you can also just stock up on all the billets, you may also be able to use resources to increase the chance of getting better materials/relics from the weapons, so like some materials will give a higher chance to give a better relic from a certain set, theses materials will most likely be domain materials for weapons materials , and you could also use boss material used for talents to increase the chance of good relics quite a lot and increase the base roll rate of the nothlander billet(maybe like 3 or 5%).

  • @honkaimidpact1997
    @honkaimidpact1997 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    imagine a 4star item but its so fvcking rare

  • @jawn5661
    @jawn5661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its either they increase the drop rate for these or have the souvenur shops restock them

    • @在下是50萬
      @在下是50萬 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stop using prototype crafted weapon for 1 week and none of your 4 character equip prototype weapon when claiming reward from weekly boss, it work for me

    • @jawn5661
      @jawn5661 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@在下是50萬 oh really? Interesting Ill try it once my world bosses refresh 😳

    • @在下是50萬
      @在下是50萬 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jawn5661 b4 this I was testing on weekly boss talent drop for 1 month, after it success then I switch to prototype drop test from last week

  • @blingbling2841
    @blingbling2841 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    funny thing is this is such an annoying issue, and its not like the weps we can get from prototype drops is even equal or superior to the BP or gacha weps

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There not, it just makes it hard for us to progress, because we are being held back a bit due to refinement. Also makes it where we can not get new prototype weapons as, the prototypes themselves almost never drop.

  • @ranielviejon7419
    @ranielviejon7419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It could be like we can forge or craft a prototype even if the materials are hard to find and hassle but then we can make our prototype at the same time we can choose what type..

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If we were able to chose the kind of prototype that dropped, that would be a nice feature. I've gotten 2 book prototypes that I really didn't want to have, whereas a claymore or sword would have been nice.

    • @ranielviejon7419
      @ranielviejon7419 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Obdiah like now i really wanted a bow prototype and now it comes down to me that can the boss just give me anything? Just anuthing would be fine hahaha

  • @1_Trident
    @1_Trident 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really need to r3 my zhongli spear and also get a ganyu bow for when she reruns

  • @Lookito
    @Lookito 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they would add the ability to change the type with like solvent. Same as boss drops so you can get the prototype you want

  • @skatingmagician
    @skatingmagician 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i dont mind that prototype are super rare, im ar 48 and have only seen 2 prototype drops, but as a f2p player, i dont anything to be easy, like building constellations on my current teams takes months and months of f2p primogems along with wishing only on specific banners that have my 4* characters on them, its a constant grind and takes a long time for a good reason, if everything was so easy to get as a f2p player, the game would simply get really boring and devalue anything worth valuing

    • @spydergaming1047
      @spydergaming1047 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, but the problem is that you have a higher chance of getting a 5 star weapon during a pull than a billet that’s used for , listen to me, *4 star* weapons.

  • @AnJelloSnaccy
    @AnJelloSnaccy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here's my idea:
    I'm calling it the Sacrifice/Trade System
    I'm thinking of sacrificing a certain amount of rewards to this specific award. Like say you don't want to item and want more of this instead. You would sacrifice that item or artifact, for something else. Now, I'm thinking this can work for the Prototypes. BUT, to make it fair, I'm thinking of sacrificing EVERYTHING for the prototype. Because hey, we already have everything expect that one prototype. So it makes sense you know. (Note: This system can also work if you only want artifacts. So you can sacrifice or trade out Mora, Davlin's claw, etc for artifacts)

  • @warrenpanase8404
    @warrenpanase8404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mihoyo wont approve any of these because people wont be paying in the weapon banner anymore if a free weapon is better and has a higher chance to be refined

  • @arianefelixeva
    @arianefelixeva 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not all people can spend money on weapons. As an F2P, prototype is important to make the team better. Kinda like a shame because I'm WL 3 now with no prototype at all

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been playing for over 100 days now and just got my third ever prototype, and I consider myself average for drop rates . Prototypes have a lot value in the hands of F2Ps, but everyone can benefit from them. Getting 4 star weapons can give a huge boost to your team, and refinements are just as important. So if the rates are increased players might be able to even max refine a prototype, instead of being let down week after week. Thank you for your pov!

  • @santiagocr
    @santiagocr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the theory that choosing lower level of the bosses might have bigger chances of dropping prototypes but no way of proving it

    • @在下是50萬
      @在下是50萬 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Stop using prototype crafted weapon for 1 week and none of your 4 character equip prototype weapon when claiming reward from weekly boss, it work for me

  • @sartorius5519
    @sartorius5519 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing that's worked for me is trying the weekly bosses but in lower levels cause I NEVER EVER get a prototype from the highest lvl and even like that I don't always get one :l

  • @codex9190
    @codex9190 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought that mihoyo incresed the prototype rates beacuse the last week i obtained 3 of them, next i realised that i just was super luky, im rank 55 and i didnt get one in 4 months.

  • @cheriquebutterfly
    @cheriquebutterfly 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like the blacksmith is somehow out of job or better say jobless at this point the only thing he can do is making ex crystale for your weapon before he got double the work now he get easy forget...:/ i often craft things more them going to him and that is sad
    i like ou idea making a shop for those Prototype (not everyone like to do abyss) other idea i got was They chould add a Layline or a domain ( like the weapon making things) to get the prototype but if that to easy then in the BP or mabey Bounty you do for the town? You only can do max 3/6 in the end.
    I do wish they make a "abyss" but not like that for people who dont like doing the abyss mabey something else

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be awesome if the blacksmith could sell prototypes directly or just do more in general. Other than making crystals, he is useless.
      I really like your idea for acquiring prototypes directly through a domain/leyline. Maybe every week or 2 weeks we could do it for a prototype.
      I hate how the new abyss is, so I completely understand that abyss isn't the best way to go about prototypes. Maybe we could have a new set of challenges for prototypes. Thanks for the ideas and your comment!

  • @blitzer12x
    @blitzer12x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You have a idea for F2P to be strong?
    Mihoyo: No

  • @TheMythicalAura
    @TheMythicalAura 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only prototype I got was a catalyst, I don't use catalyst characters.

  • @normundshanzens5954
    @normundshanzens5954 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree about quest for 5 st. wepon on each upgreid, because drop chance for billets for beating bosses is ar rare as snow in sahara :) This is annoing!!! Players will lose any interess in playing game...

  • @tigger1st
    @tigger1st 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just got ganyu and i cant make prototype bow for her :(
    (I made compound bow about 2 months ago)

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dang that sucks, do you got a backup bow? I'd recommend the Blackcliff bow if you don't. Even though it requires Starglitter, the weapon iteslf goes really well with Ganyu!

    • @tigger1st
      @tigger1st 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No i dont, Im using rust on her. I know that it reduce charge shot dmg but i dont have other choice

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tigger1st damn hope you can get something better soon man

    • @vannessaolivia2080
      @vannessaolivia2080 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same i still use compound bow until now

  • @agendawanker
    @agendawanker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have two sword billets, took me 2 months, I need 3 more for ny kageoni sword to be R5 :DDDDD

  • @Lionhart1991
    @Lionhart1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wanna that f crescent and compound D:

    • @LeivenFrestea
      @LeivenFrestea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have the Crescent Bow, now the Compound, damn, i need that Compound

  • @drwillfulneglect
    @drwillfulneglect 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    mihoyo isn’t fair, this isn’t how gacha games work, but I’ll preach anyway
    #FIXTHEDROPRATES

  • @hakiman3167
    @hakiman3167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do all levels has the same drop rates?

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well, no one knows what the prototype drop rates are. We just know that they are very low. Players then assumed that getting to AR45 or 50 would increase the rates, but I can say that at AR53 and a half nothing has changed regarding rates. While I can not guarantee there is no rate increase, I can say it is nothing that make a noticeable different in your weekly drops unfortunately.

    • @hakiman3167
      @hakiman3167 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Obdiah Thanks!

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hakiman3167 of course!

  • @fierypickles4450
    @fierypickles4450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whats that song playin? Fire

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Had a few songs playing
      1-secret crates - Springtime Stroll
      2-Lakey Inspired - Chill day
      3- DJ Quads - Missing Someone
      Hope this helps!

  • @thomasjones5889
    @thomasjones5889 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    you dont even need 5star weapons in this game

  • @stonewars2078
    @stonewars2078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    U get more if u are world level 1

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not really a solution for anyone that's played Genshin for 2 or more weeks though. I did see that the rates are much better at WL1, just 3 months too late

    • @stonewars2078
      @stonewars2078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Obdiah yeah dude I'm also WL3 and haven't got a drop, but I thought I'd share that info for people who are just starting out so they can grind.

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@stonewars2078 I gotchu, hopefully it can help somebody out : )

    • @stonewars2078
      @stonewars2078 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Obdiah Thanks!

    • @sxbarashii2849
      @sxbarashii2849 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im Ar 25, just started on feb 19th, how do I get more prototypes since im world level 1

  • @ytubeanon
    @ytubeanon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    good ideas

    • @Obdiah
      @Obdiah  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @myeeh8020
    @myeeh8020 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do i use it

  • @lacrimaesubs
    @lacrimaesubs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    #GIBMOREBILLETDROPS :3

  • @poizongamerz4057
    @poizongamerz4057 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    #FIXTHEDROPRATES