Good for a base camp area set up by a stream. I saw one guy used two 4 foot shepherd's hooks, pounded into the middle of a stream, and strung the water lily between them. It was pretty stable that way. He also had an extension cable hooked in place so he could get it to power back to the shoreline. I'm interested in the Wind Lily... now that would be more practical for use during power outages.
The problem is that channels like yours recommends the Waterlily, and people like me order it, or rather also their version that is wind powered also, paying like $300US, and they tell you to wait 4 to 6 weeks for delivery, and then they don't contact you. Just take the money and run seems to be the company policy. I ordered May 7th, and haven't heard from them since...
Well, first, the be clear I didn’t “recommend” this. I just demonstrated it as best I could to try to provide information. I rarely “recommend” anything. Second, that does not sound good. Have you reached out to them again? I’ll try to contact them for you if you will send me your actual name used to order it. Because I don’t like to hear that about any product I have introduced to my viewers, recommended or not. Please email me at survivalonpurpose@gmail.com
@@SurvivalOnPurpose ... I ordered on May 5th their newest version of the Waterlily that has a more suited wind design. After the 6 week limit to finally be able to order due to things about Covid, I contacted, or at least attempt to contact them. I told them I didn't what to have to contact the RCMP about a possible scam. I say that I attempted to contact them, but they never responded. Meanwhile, the almost $300US was definitely taken out of my account. I've never contacted the RCMP, nor do I want to cause someone struggling in their business in this day to struggle more. But I would appreciate more transparency, in the form of maybe an email. Thank you for your offer of help, I guess the universe doesn't want me to have that thing... I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you didn't recommend this item, I had searched you up looking to find a video to show a friend of mine the thing I got stiffed on...
love the review. Here's my quick thoughts: as far as the Amps at the peak I was seeing .27 Amps. keep in mind your car charger for your phone provides 1- 2.1 Amps. And sometimes this feels like it takes forever to charge your phone. Although in a SHTF scenario anything that can provide power for your charging needs is great to have. I feel this is a great option although there is more powerful options like small solar chargers. This may be a great option for when Solar is not an option. I am curious to see how the windlily preforms. Although wind and sun you can never depend on 100% of the time being available. Wish this little machine could put out a higher amperage to up the charging capabilities. I would love to see a video testing this out on a fully dead cellphone battery and seeing how much charge it can provide in say a 12 or 24 hour period or overnight bug out spot by the river.
Looks like a great idea that doesn’t do much in real life. It’s unfortunate but they haven’t created a product I could stand by and purchase when there are way cheaper solar power banks that are a million times easier to use. I know you have to pay bills but that product doesn’t do it. At least for me. Thanks for showing it and being real about it.
This product isn't really paying any bills. I just thought it was a cool concept and wanted to see if it wa really practical. And, while solar is an often cheaper option, it is just as limited as this device- just in different ways. I am curios to see how well the wind attachment works.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose I think you did well bringing this product to light. I looked at this type product few months ago, think same brand. You had a cable crossed, it looked like it was hindering use, so maybe results would have been a tiny smidgen better. I would carry this in a pack if I had the extra $$. Thanks for all you do Bryan, bless you.
Depending on you location. Solar. Wind. Hydro. Are never enough alone. Well hydro works best of the three for 24/7 power output. But you need a good flow constantly. Solar & Wind even together have times of no power generation and nulls in output.
All of these points are valid but like I said, this one feels at a minimum based on the video footage from the review like the most difficult to use with the least benefit based on safety alone. Falling into rapids in a survival situation (if that is the intention of this product) or trying to navigate across rapids back and forth to secure properly this product feels like the risk/reward is way out of balance. Will it work, yup but that isn’t the point at least for me. In an shtf situation this thing is another hazard. Just my opinion and if you want to spend $159 or more on it, by all means do so. I will stick to the best idea for my area (Florida) and go with solar for now at least. I very much appreciate the work put into this to show us this product
@Brian Sciarratta I don’t see this as a survival tool at all. More like a way to charge different electronics in an off grid situation, like a regular old camping or hunting trip. It’s just another option that I thought was pretty cool.
Thats awesome! I'm very skeptical of the 15 watt claim.. especially as your power meter showed 0.59 Watts. Ive built a similar version that was much larger and output about 5 watts.
Cant help but feel there's a very good reason paddle type water wheels have been historically used to harness energy from flowing water and not this frankly bizzare contraption. 🤷♂️
Depends on the flow rate and head, what you are referring to is called a Pelton wheel. This type of turbine is typically used when you have a low flow rate and a high head. I believe that Water lily is a Kaplan turbine so covers a large spectrum of flow rate and head.
@@roo1234 You sound like you know what you're talking about Andrew, so are there any historic examples of this sort of turbine being favoured over the paddle style for capturing water's kinetic energy
@@AggyGoesOutdoors As I have said already, from a basic requirements view, the selection of turbine type depends on the head and flow rate but there are obviously other factors which have been considered. Kaplan Turbines are certainly used in industry and even on a large scale in some hydro dams.
Wow, what an ingenious idea! Thanks for bringing us some great novel equipment ideas. I was supposed to be making my family some lunch which is now a little delayed because I had to watch this all the way through!
Wait. So a small, portable hydro electric generator that is available with a wind power attachment was around in 1870? Dang, too bad they didn't have anything to charge yet. Them cowboys could have been texting instead of telegraphing. ;-)
@@papimaximus95 the ingenious idea is to bring variety of content to viewers. Guess what? Ideas get translated into different formats all the time. A sub $200 hyrdo turbine was a cool idea for a video.
"For those of you still stuck in that old metric system..." That gave me a chuckle. Metrication started in the 1790's, and, according to the CIA World Fact Book, only three countries in the world still officially use imperial measurement: Myanmar, Liberia, and the United States. Maybe you were kidding, and the joke's on me :) This device is really clever, and if you live or spend time near flowing water, could be very useful.
2 years later, what is you final taught? Sure it's cool... But is it really possible to get the 15 watt in real life situation? Like other had pointed out. It seem more convenient to get solar panel and small power bank.
Use some river rocks to divert the flow and suspend the turbine in a vertical orientation. Kind of how modern gold prospectors do with a mini sluice box. Think that would be the easiest way to setup this little unit.
Idea! Tie two short lines to the end of a 3' stick or pole. Tie the free ends of the two lines to the end of your main anchor rope...like a water ski rope. Tie each end of the machine's 2 anchor lines (the ones meant for each bank) onto the ends of the pole with 3 or so feet of line between the stick and machine. Anchor as normal with the stabilized generator.
Great video Bryan! I would use my Goal Zero Nomad 10 or also Power Film 14 watt rollable solar panels. Too much chance for injury to setup that Water Lily.
I have one and tested it. I have the USB version. I believe the cord isn’t long enough. You can have a bridle a mile long, but if the cord is only 6’, then you’re limited. I had to find a heavy water flow through two rocks on the other side of a low head dam. Plus you gotta anchor this to something... remember the short cord so split the length. I’ll probably get rid of mine. It’s not worth the weight in my bag, the risk of submerging electronics (yes even with the bag) nor is it worth possibly injuring yourself setting it up. It’s not iPhone friendly either. Nice review! 👍👍😁🇺🇸
I wonder if someone makes a larger one to power my entire house! The set up for every hydro power plant I've seen is really arduous... And with all the piping and wiring can be very expensive... Something like this, only a little larger in a box with a screen protector from rocks and fish would be great!!
"For those of you still stuck in that ol' metric system?" Ummm, that would be the entire world outside the USA! The metric system is easy and makes sense! You don't have to put anyone down to demo a plastic fan. lol 🙈🥴
@@SurvivalOnPurpose 😂 “allegedly” still haven’t found it with a telescope yet… 😂….. Let’s not forget Australia invented plastic money, doesn’t disintegrate when wet…. Seems a bit more useful than putting a sentiment on a rock that’s inhabitable….. and that’s just the start. 😉 Think about the high heart failure related diseases that require electronic pacemakers…. Then look at the percentage of the world who requires them…. “Cough cough” America….. You’re welcome.
Check out Water Lily at survivalonpurpose.com/WaterLily
Put it in a 10 or 12 inch plastic culvert and it should work great.
Link does not work anymore.
Thanks Brian, Great Review!
Good for a base camp area set up by a stream. I saw one guy used two 4 foot shepherd's hooks, pounded into the middle of a stream, and strung the water lily between them. It was pretty stable that way. He also had an extension cable hooked in place so he could get it to power back to the shoreline. I'm interested in the Wind Lily... now that would be more practical for use during power outages.
Very cool!
I bet it would work well mounted in a sluice box , plus you could install a grate on the top end to protect the turbine from debris. Cool vid Bryan!
I'm sure that would be better
I am curious how it would work with a rebar anchor
An “in stream” anchor is probably the best option. I didn’t want to get wet making this video.
Two rebar anchors to balance out the turbine.
How does the whole unit not spin? I've thought of this for years.
For 50 dollars maybe but this thing is more like a cool thing to play with
What about dragging it behind a canoe or kayak?
If you can paddle fast enough
Very cool Bryan. I've been watching videos of this or one like it seems like for 10 years.
Beautiful Brian. I've had something like this in the back of my mind to start looking in to.
In 1991 I designed a little unit like this but the Tesla Turbine wasn't public knowledge back then.
Like everything, it has it's limitations but it is pretty cool
The problem is that channels like yours recommends the Waterlily, and people like me order it, or rather also their version that is wind powered also, paying like $300US, and they tell you to wait 4 to 6 weeks for delivery, and then they don't contact you. Just take the money and run seems to be the company policy. I ordered May 7th, and haven't heard from them since...
Well, first, the be clear I didn’t “recommend” this. I just demonstrated it as best I could to try to provide information. I rarely “recommend” anything. Second, that does not sound good. Have you reached out to them again? I’ll try to contact them for you if you will send me your actual name used to order it. Because I don’t like to hear that about any product I have introduced to my viewers, recommended or not. Please email me at survivalonpurpose@gmail.com
@@SurvivalOnPurpose ...
I ordered on May 5th their newest version of the Waterlily that has a more suited wind design. After the 6 week limit to finally be able to order due to things about Covid, I contacted, or at least attempt to contact them. I told them I didn't what to have to contact the RCMP about a possible scam. I say that I attempted to contact them, but they never responded. Meanwhile, the almost $300US was definitely taken out of my account. I've never contacted the RCMP, nor do I want to cause someone struggling in their business in this day to struggle more. But I would appreciate more transparency, in the form of maybe an email. Thank you for your offer of help, I guess the universe doesn't want me to have that thing...
I'm sorry, I didn't realize that you didn't recommend this item, I had searched you up looking to find a video to show a friend of mine the thing I got stiffed on...
I agree I ordered last yr and still no answer they just disappeared
Thanks Brian.
You're welcome!
Maybe if you're lucky, you could find a small water fall where you can dangle this unit into.
love the review. Here's my quick thoughts: as far as the Amps at the peak I was seeing .27 Amps. keep in mind your car charger for your phone provides 1- 2.1 Amps. And sometimes this feels like it takes forever to charge your phone. Although in a SHTF scenario anything that can provide power for your charging needs is great to have. I feel this is a great option although there is more powerful options like small solar chargers. This may be a great option for when Solar is not an option. I am curious to see how the windlily preforms. Although wind and sun you can never depend on 100% of the time being available. Wish this little machine could put out a higher amperage to up the charging capabilities. I would love to see a video testing this out on a fully dead cellphone battery and seeing how much charge it can provide in say a 12 or 24 hour period or overnight bug out spot by the river.
I like it!
Looks like a great idea that doesn’t do much in real life. It’s unfortunate but they haven’t created a product I could stand by and purchase when there are way cheaper solar power banks that are a million times easier to use. I know you have to pay bills but that product doesn’t do it. At least for me. Thanks for showing it and being real about it.
This product isn't really paying any bills. I just thought it was a cool concept and wanted to see if it wa really practical. And, while solar is an often cheaper option, it is just as limited as this device- just in different ways. I am curios to see how well the wind attachment works.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose I think you did well bringing this product to light. I looked at this type product few months ago, think same brand.
You had a cable crossed, it looked like it was hindering use, so maybe results would have been a tiny smidgen better.
I would carry this in a pack if I had the extra $$. Thanks for all you do Bryan, bless you.
Depending on you location.
Solar. Wind. Hydro. Are never enough alone. Well hydro works best of the three for 24/7 power output. But you need a good flow constantly.
Solar & Wind even together have times of no power generation and nulls in output.
All of these points are valid but like I said, this one feels at a minimum based on the video footage from the review like the most difficult to use with the least benefit based on safety alone. Falling into rapids in a survival situation (if that is the intention of this product) or trying to navigate across rapids back and forth to secure properly this product feels like the risk/reward is way out of balance. Will it work, yup but that isn’t the point at least for me. In an shtf situation this thing is another hazard. Just my opinion and if you want to spend $159 or more on it, by all means do so. I will stick to the best idea for my area (Florida) and go with solar for now at least. I very much appreciate the work put into this to show us this product
@Brian Sciarratta I don’t see this as a survival tool at all. More like a way to charge different electronics in an off grid situation, like a regular old camping or hunting trip. It’s just another option that I thought was pretty cool.
Thats awesome! I'm very skeptical of the 15 watt claim.. especially as your power meter showed 0.59 Watts. Ive built a similar version that was much larger and output about 5 watts.
Would it be poible to put a magnetic foers field in it on the in side of the weel part even mybe the blads on it
Thats a pretty cool gadget.
Cant help but feel there's a very good reason paddle type water wheels have been historically used to harness energy from flowing water and not this frankly bizzare contraption. 🤷♂️
Depends on the flow rate and head, what you are referring to is called a Pelton wheel. This type of turbine is typically used when you have a low flow rate and a high head.
I believe that Water lily is a Kaplan turbine so covers a large spectrum of flow rate and head.
@@roo1234 You sound like you know what you're talking about Andrew, so are there any historic examples of this sort of turbine being favoured over the paddle style for capturing water's kinetic energy
@@AggyGoesOutdoors As I have said already, from a basic requirements view, the selection of turbine type depends on the head and flow rate but there are obviously other factors which have been considered. Kaplan Turbines are certainly used in industry and even on a large scale in some hydro dams.
Wonder how durable it is. Fine idea, but will it last more than a few weeks.
Interesting concept. The fact that you try so many different things is what I love about your channel.👍🏻
It’s not just knives and flashlights.😉
I appreciate that!
Very interesting product. Great review! Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Wow, what an ingenious idea! Thanks for bringing us some great novel equipment ideas. I was supposed to be making my family some lunch which is now a little delayed because I had to watch this all the way through!
@@papimaximus95 be that as it may, I've never seen a practical demonstration of one and found it interesting.
Wait. So a small, portable hydro electric generator that is available with a wind power attachment was around in 1870? Dang, too bad they didn't have anything to charge yet. Them cowboys could have been texting instead of telegraphing. ;-)
@@papimaximus95 the ingenious idea is to bring variety of content to viewers. Guess what? Ideas get translated into different formats all the time. A sub $200 hyrdo turbine was a cool idea for a video.
"For those of you still stuck in that old metric system..." That gave me a chuckle. Metrication started in the 1790's, and, according to the CIA World Fact Book, only three countries in the world still officially use imperial measurement: Myanmar, Liberia, and the United States. Maybe you were kidding, and the joke's on me :) This device is really clever, and if you live or spend time near flowing water, could be very useful.
;-)
You plan on carrying a Pelton water wheel when camping? Comparing this portable generator to a huge water wheel is like comparing a car to a bicycle
I like it
Cool device!! Cool idea!!
I think so too!
2 years later, what is you final taught?
Sure it's cool... But is it really possible to get the 15 watt in real life situation?
Like other had pointed out. It seem more convenient to get solar panel and small power bank.
HI Bryan, cool little turbine and fantastic idea, can´t wait to see it spinning in the wind
Me either.
Very interesting.
Great idea. The Wind Lilly aspect is more useful. Modify the wind capture is an "S" Vertical wind turbine instead of the windmill style fan...
Cool, thanks
Great Video
Thanks!
Need some floaties on that.
cool
🇺🇸Good stuff, on purpose 👍🏾
Use some river rocks to divert the flow and suspend the turbine in a vertical orientation. Kind of how modern gold prospectors do with a mini sluice box. Think that would be the easiest way to setup this little unit.
Or at least one way that would be better
Can use a car alternator to do same thing.
Underwater?
Idea!
Tie two short lines to the end of a 3' stick or pole. Tie the free ends of the two lines to the end of your main anchor rope...like a water ski rope.
Tie each end of the machine's 2 anchor lines (the ones meant for each bank) onto the ends of the pole with 3 or so feet of line between the stick and machine.
Anchor as normal with the stabilized generator.
cool
@@SurvivalOnPurpose They should supplement the thing with a little "clip into" ski‐ropish jig.
Good video, Not sure how it relates to the acquisition and preparation of gizzards.
Good point!
Great video Bryan! I would use my Goal Zero Nomad 10 or also Power Film 14 watt rollable solar panels. Too much chance for injury to setup that Water Lily.
Cool
Id use it to charge a battery bank then charge the phone off the battery because i don't trust charging the phone off fluctuating current
I have one and tested it. I have the USB version. I believe the cord isn’t long enough. You can have a bridle a mile long, but if the cord is only 6’, then you’re limited. I had to find a heavy water flow through two rocks on the other side of a low head dam. Plus you gotta anchor this to something... remember the short cord so split the length.
I’ll probably get rid of mine. It’s not worth the weight in my bag, the risk of submerging electronics (yes even with the bag) nor is it worth possibly injuring yourself setting it up. It’s not iPhone friendly either. Nice review! 👍👍😁🇺🇸
I wonder if someone makes a larger one to power my entire house! The set up for every hydro power plant I've seen is really arduous... And with all the piping and wiring can be very expensive... Something like this, only a little larger in a box with a screen protector from rocks and fish would be great!!
I'm sure someone does.
You could buy one from choggin FHE floating Hydroelectric. They have big ones
Magnetic blads waits and measure
"For those of you still stuck in that old metric system" lol You mean, "the world"?
Just the part of the world with no flag on the moon. Bwaaa haa haa haa ;-)
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Yeah. NASA is working on metric though. You proof my point.
Lighten up a little
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Inch by inch
Put in a flue
Should be a longer tube with a turbine, that design looks a bit dumb.
Ok
"For those of you still stuck in that ol' metric system?" Ummm, that would be the entire world outside the USA! The metric system is easy and makes sense! You don't have to put anyone down to demo a plastic fan. lol 🙈🥴
Gotcha ;-)
WAY over-priced for the output it provided.
Do you know of a lower priced water turbine generator?
most of these targeted boutique products are. Solar and a powerbank for real preparedness.
There a fraud company they stole ppls money and left u should take this down
Don't bought this, its a scam! Since 4 months and i don't received anything..
I am sad to hear that. But thanks for letting us know.
C'est des voleurs ils envoient Jamais la commande
This is a scam and thats why its out of business
9 minutes of talk, 1 minute of test.
Context
this company is a bunch of rip off artists!!!!!
"Old metric system"...... haha lol says the only 'advanced Western country" noot using it. haha
Hah! Gotcha. Oh, and the only one with a flag on the moon ;-)
@@SurvivalOnPurpose 😂 “allegedly” still haven’t found it with a telescope yet… 😂…..
Let’s not forget Australia invented plastic money, doesn’t disintegrate when wet…. Seems a bit more useful than putting a sentiment on a rock that’s inhabitable….. and that’s just the start. 😉
Think about the high heart failure related diseases that require electronic pacemakers…. Then look at the percentage of the world who requires them…. “Cough cough” America…..
You’re welcome.
@@SurvivalOnPurpose Want to know how they got to the moon? It was by using the metric system.