The closing theme, "WKRP In Cincinnati End Credits", was a hard rock number composed and performed by Jim Ellis, an Atlanta musician who recorded some of the incidental music for the show. According to people who attended the recording sessions, Ellis didn't yet have lyrics for the closing theme, so he sang nonsense words to give an idea of how it would sound. Wilson decided to use the words anyway, since he felt that it would be funny to use lyrics that were deliberately gibberish, as a satire on the incomprehensibility of many rock songs. Also, because CBS always had an announcer talking over the closing credits, Wilson knew that no one would actually hear the closing theme lyrics anyway.
Steve Stalzle That's the way I heard the story, as well. The lyrics weren't written, but they liked it just the way it was. Similar story with Bachman Turner Overdrive's song, You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet. They considered the cut a demo and decided to have some fun with their manager, who stuttered. The manager loved it and insisted they leave the stutters in.
I'd always thought it was a satire on rock singers. Thanks for the confirmation. My mother used to tell a joke when I'd be listening to my radio: "That producer is going to be angry. 'I understood a word! I'm going to send you back to Mitch Miller!" What makes this great is that it's one of the best rock tunes ever!
It used to drive me nuts as a kid---I'd be rocking out and then 4 seconds in--"Coming up on CBS, blah blah blah" over the whole song until the last 3 seconds and then the meow
Head to the bartender, "What cha gonna have?"... said to the boys in a pocketball bet, uh-huh. I said, "Close the bar down, I had better and head out." Then bet I wouldn't do it, as I poured another beer in a Hearth.
Back in the day I was a little kid when this show started . At the end of each WKRP episode I saw I would not turn off the tv change the channel go into another room etc .. until the ending credits were completely over just so I could hear this kickass song . I’m guessing I wasn’t the only kid who did that .
I was introduced to this show by my parents right around the time we were binge watching MASH and I fell in love with Marcia Strassman. I feel like Jan is almost a clone of Marcia. But nicer.
Someone at CBS really didn't like this show, because as popular as it was, it had at least four different time slots in four seasons, including two in one season. Plus it was an Emmy winner (for the "Turkeys Away!" episode), and it made stars out of the entire cast (at least while it aired). RIP Carol Bruce and Sylvia Sidney (the two Mother Carlsons), Gordon Jump, Frank Bonner, Allyn Ann McLerie (Carlson's wife), and Howard Hesseman.
Went to the bartender, best night I ever had. Sitting at the bar had a microphone in her heart. I said good bartender I have a bird in hand. I said I'm doing good, and putting love in our hearts.
I totally forgot about the "other" WKRP song. Interesting how this show didn't do the full credits until the end. This brings back memories of being a little kid and falling asleep on the living room floor in front of the TV. Now I'm an adult dozing off in front of my computer.
What are you talking about? They did what EVERY show did...and still does to this day. The opening credits are for the most important names..the cast and the creator. The end credits are recapping the cast, plus guest stars and with more crew. That is the most common format of credits in TV.
Hell yeah the cats meowing is like part of the song to me. If I heard it without the little orange Tabby meowing at the end it would seem weird and incomplete. This band should actually have to tour with the Cat as part of their contract.
lol, me too, I didn't realize at first that it is like three closing credits put together. I didn't care, I was glad I got to hear the song on loop for three times--I think it's a great tune.
I was born in 76. This show was one of my earliest to grow up with. My sister and I wrote a book full of quiz questions about the show when I was about 8 or 9. It was absolutely our favorite.
In the mid 80s I was working at a local TV station that aired WKRP in syndication. I edited a promo for the show using the closing theme and cutting video from some of the funnier moments. Viewers actually called in requesting we run the promo. Loved that song and that’s from someone who spent a couple of hours listening to it as I edited.
Honestly that Thanksgiving episode is still the best Thanksgiving thing I have ever seen!!! Les Nessman & those two other goofs Herb & the boss, priceless!!! #WKRP4Life!!!
Man, this has the late 70s written all over it. I loved this show and my older cousin would hit that GREEN while watching it. I was a little kid when this show ran first run.
Always was a big fan of the WKRP closer. Also love how MTM sitcoms would close the show with clips of the supporting cast and guest stars. The "extended mix" is icing on the cake.
Red toothed bartender, But she's not half bad Real to the bone and a microphone in her heart But then, good for now, I had a bird in hand I said I would do it, and I put a life in our hearts.
This has been in my head for the last few weeks! Not sure why the closing theme and not the opening theme 🤣 This song was the business for me as a 7 yr old as I jumped on the bed pretending to play the bass!!
“I said, ‘Good bartender, I’ll have a beer and head out.’ I said I’m doin’ good and I’m puttin’ love in our hearts.” Those are the last lines and there can be absolutely no debate on this.
Went to the bartender, Best night I ever had. Sitting at the bar had a microphone in her heart. I said good bartender I have a bird in hand. I said I'm doing good, and putting love in our hearts. MEOW
@ilovethetampabaylightning92 I loved him his hair reminded me of Dean Martin's if you know who I'm talking about cause both guys' hair was curly...I hope you will reply to this
THIS very song is the reason for direction of my musical interests since I first heard it in mom and dads living room on tv circa 1980. I was about five. My dad hated the show but every week I’d make him turn the channel at the right time so I could hear this ridiculous song. Thank you red tooth bartender… wherever your velvet Elvis 🔥🇺🇸
This is what I hear: A man tooth bar tena Put'cha night aheada Seein' you the mornin' A back a poppa see ha-a-ah I say Good fun denim I laugh bared in hey-la I say I'm ruin doin' And Put a lotta milla hon
+David Cook I think most people are aware of that famous story, but if you're in a band and want to jam this song, what do you get the lead singer to sing? And as far as gibberish goes, this is the coolest sounding nonsense that I know of.
+11db11 : "...but if you're in a band and want to jam this song, what do you get the lead singer to sing?" Anything he wants! (And he never has to worry about forgetting the lyrics!)
No, no, no! It's clearly: Mantooth bartender Spot you right ahead-a Sing a little more in the microphone yeah uh-huh I said, good bartender, I got burnin' hair I said, the wood’s good And you put an apple in our hearts :D
Maybe they were channeling The Kingsmen, drawing inspiration from their song "Louie, Louie". Because even that song don't make much sense either! hahaha! XD
Stitched together from the shows of the first season. (The very early ones are in blue, mostly with character names beneath them.) This includes BOTH Mrs. Carlsons (Sylvia Sidney in the pilot, Carol Bruce from January 1979, when the show returned from a two-month hiatus).
This always reminded me of Bob Seger, musically, like something that could have been on Night Moves or Stranger In Town...one fun thing about WKRP is trying to spy the posters on the walls in the studio that varied from show to show.
This is how most rock music sounded to my parents. They were the kind who loved that '50s rock and roll in its time (both were born in '38), but then tuned rock out in the Beatles era.
According to people who attended the recording sessions, Ellis didn't yet have lyrics for the closing theme, so he improvised a semi-comprehensible story about a bartender to give an idea of how the finished theme would sound. Wilson decided to use the words anyway, since he felt that it would be funny to use lyrics that were deliberate gibberish, as a satire on the incomprehensibility of many rock songs.[21] Because CBS always had an announcer talking over the closing credits, Wilson knew that no one would hear the closing theme lyrics.
LOL... Michael Des Barres. first concert I ever went to, KISS in 1977, one of 3 shows at Madison Square Garden. Des Barres' band Detective opened. the other 2 nights, the opening act was Piper, Billy Squier's band
Lot of character actors in that lineup. The two standouts were Batman villains...Bob The Goon (Tracey Walter) and The Organ Grinder/Mr Vargas (Vincent Schiavelli)
Something about a bartender and there's a microphone in my heart maybe even a microphone in your hair, but definitely a bartender and rocking roll in our hearts
I'm watching the show on the Decades Binge, I have been watching this show all day, I think I have made through a season and a half all ready and still can not understand the end credit song.
Always LOVED this smart, yet underrated, show and both the opening and closing themes - especially the closing theme. WKRP is now showing at 9:30 p.m. PST on the DECADES channel. Hardly ever miss it.
I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)! It was intentional nonsense by Ellis. (I don't even think HE quoted it right atf) *"Mad-tooth bartender.* *Watcha gonna have to have."* *"Sing to da bar.* *To the microphone I did uh huh."* *"I said. Good bartender.* *I like....better-than-hate-'er."* *"And then I would do it.* *And I could and then I did uh huh."* (meow) I am fairly certain about the last line. - Dave B.
Simply the greatest closing theme in television history.
Truer words were never spoken, whatever they were.
LOL. Underrated comment.
These words say 10X more than most pronounced phrases I have ever been expected to believe.
Red tooth bartender, box o night of a head. Lol 😂
The most kick ass "fake" rock song of all time. If this was a real song it'd be on rotation on all classic rock stations across the nation.
John Boy and Billy close their show EVERY day with this gem!
Tony and Dwight on WHAS in Louisville close with it occasionally.
@@jonwithers4607 I'm still sad Robert D Rayford passed away.
Absolutely correct!
Absolutely fucking brilliant
The closing theme, "WKRP In Cincinnati End Credits", was a hard rock number composed and performed by Jim Ellis, an Atlanta musician who recorded some of the incidental music for the show. According to people who attended the recording sessions, Ellis didn't yet have lyrics for the closing theme, so he sang nonsense words to give an idea of how it would sound. Wilson decided to use the words anyway, since he felt that it would be funny to use lyrics that were deliberately gibberish, as a satire on the incomprehensibility of many rock songs. Also, because CBS always had an announcer talking over the closing credits, Wilson knew that no one would actually hear the closing theme lyrics anyway.
Steve Stalzle That's the way I heard the story, as well. The lyrics weren't written, but they liked it just the way it was. Similar story with Bachman Turner Overdrive's song, You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet. They considered the cut a demo and decided to have some fun with their manager, who stuttered. The manager loved it and insisted they leave the stutters in.
@@dorian3260 I didn't know that about You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet. I always wondered why there were stutters in there. Thanks for the 411.
@FloodyBoy Randal That is completely awesome.
You can definitely hear “microphone” in there. I’m sure the lyrics the writer gave out are a joke to mess with us.
I'd always thought it was a satire on rock singers. Thanks for the confirmation. My mother used to tell a joke when I'd be listening to my radio: "That producer is going to be angry. 'I understood a word! I'm going to send you back to Mitch Miller!" What makes this great is that it's one of the best rock tunes ever!
It used to drive me nuts as a kid---I'd be rocking out and then 4 seconds in--"Coming up on CBS, blah blah blah" over the whole song until the last 3 seconds and then the meow
Head to the bartender, "What cha gonna have?"... said to the boys in a pocketball bet, uh-huh. I said, "Close the bar down, I had better and head out." Then bet I wouldn't do it, as I poured another beer in a Hearth.
We couldn't hear the actual ending theme because CBS had a voice announcer to cover up the lyrics.
This is fun. Please keep it going.
And then the meow.
No freakin' kidding eh? Gaw!!! That used to really tick me off!!! :)
“Dr. Johnny Fever” has left the building. Thanks for the memories Howard! RIP...
Booger!!!!
Oh my God. Even down to cat meow at the end takes me back to my childhood. Golden age for television, movies & music in my opinion
And with that, RIP to the great Howard Hesseman. We will keep your memory for as long as we're all still here.
And just one word - Booger!
Back in the day I was a little kid when this show started . At the end of each WKRP episode I saw I would not turn off the tv change the channel go into another room etc .. until the ending credits were completely over just so I could hear this kickass song . I’m guessing I wasn’t the only kid who did that .
i did it for the "MEOW"
Nope u were not
Nope! :)
And to hear the cat meow!
51 now. I still check in with this jam regularly. I'd love to hear the end play out longer. Seems like something Phish would do...
I'm not sure what the lyrics are, but I am certain that Jan Smithers was the most gorgeous woman on television.
Yes G. Monsoon I agree. I felt she was more approachable, genuine and attractive than Loni Anderson.
YUP!! She was one smokin' hot babe for sure!!
I was introduced to this show by my parents right around the time we were binge watching MASH and I fell in love with Marcia Strassman. I feel like Jan is almost a clone of Marcia. But nicer.
Amen to that!
Yeah Mrs. Kotter
One of the best rock tv show themes I’ve ever heard
Absolutely. 😎
Another great was was "Drive" for Hardcastle & McCormick, and the theme for "Wheeled Warriors" (1985 Saturday morning cartoon)
Agreed
Barney Miller.
@@patrickwalling1636 Barney Miller was a good song but not a rock song.
Who cares if the lyrics dont make sense, this song puts me in a great mood every time I hear it!
He deliberately wrote nonsense words for it
Someone at CBS really didn't like this show, because as popular as it was, it had at least four different time slots in four seasons, including two in one season. Plus it was an Emmy winner (for the "Turkeys Away!" episode), and it made stars out of the entire cast (at least while it aired). RIP Carol Bruce and Sylvia Sidney (the two Mother Carlsons), Gordon Jump, Frank Bonner, Allyn Ann McLerie (Carlson's wife), and Howard Hesseman.
I waited for that goddamned meow at the end and I wasn't disappointed.
Gibberish lyrics or not, this is a great fucking song.
*****: I second that emotion!
+Captain Quirk I third it
I fourth it.
I fifth it.
I Sixth it!
One of my favorite closing themes EVER! Exceptional cast and great writng, WKRP is absolutely one of the best shows of that era.
Went to the bartender, best night I ever had. Sitting at the bar had a microphone in her heart. I said good bartender I have a bird in hand. I said I'm doing good, and putting love in our hearts.
Terry Landriault I loved it.
I think that's correct enough. You win.
That sounds as close as we are going to get.
That is the correct lyrics... it is MEGA hard to listen to understand the lyrics... but you got it right... thanks
Damn I think you're right
This show had it all. Far too underated. All the way from script themes, to acting, to music, it was a complete entertainment.
Yep! Genius and perfect-indeed.
completely agree.
Best ending credits ever!!
I totally forgot about the "other" WKRP song. Interesting how this show didn't do the full credits until the end. This brings back memories of being a little kid and falling asleep on the living room floor in front of the TV. Now I'm an adult dozing off in front of my computer.
What are you talking about? They did what EVERY show did...and still does to this day. The opening credits are for the most important names..the cast and the creator. The end credits are recapping the cast, plus guest stars and with more crew. That is the most common format of credits in TV.
"And then the cat comes out "MwEOW!"
And that was 70's television."
Danny Rea if the show didn't end in meow, it wasn't shit!!!!
Danny Rea. Can't have it without the cat. I agree
Hell yeah the cats meowing is like part of the song to me. If I heard it without the little orange Tabby meowing at the end it would seem weird and incomplete. This band should actually have to tour with the Cat as part of their contract.
Considering this is 40 or so years old I feel confident that this cat used up its nine lives a long time ago..
That cat was Mary Tyler Moore's pet, Mimsy.
I literally thought this was the closing credits for a single episode and I was like, "GODDAMN! How many guest stars did this week have?!"
lol, me too, I didn't realize at first that it is like three closing credits put together. I didn't care, I was glad I got to hear the song on loop for three times--I think it's a great tune.
Like the different colours of the titles, and the lack of the "city panorama" with the remaining crew, didn't give it away? #Think
@@bobjersey 🖕🏻
It threw me for a loop. Right when I was expecting it to trail off and hear the meow! it kept going.
😂🤣
I was born in 76. This show was one of my earliest to grow up with. My sister and I wrote a book full of quiz questions about the show when I was about 8 or 9. It was absolutely our favorite.
wish i could buy ur quizz book! i would have given it to My sister! 😌
Thank you for including the MTM cat meow...I kept waiting for it.
The only part I understand is by the cat.
Terrifically edited and a great tribute to an outstanding show. Thank you for posting!
Absolute banger! Best ending credits tune of all time. The opener was pretty damn good too.
Vincent Schiavelli and Tracey Walter. Such a couple of great character actors. I love them both in whatever they appeared in.
And guest musician Hoyt Axton! And EDIE McCLURG!!
Was in Batman and the movie Philadelphia
Wow, this must have been one HELL of a JAM PACKED episode of WKRP to have ALL those guest stars in!!! 😯
Michael Des Barres was in Roseanne around that time too.
When I had my campus/community radio show I dubbed this and used it as my end theme, complete with the MTM cat at the end.
FANTASTIC EDITING!
Agree -- the uploader _nailed_ it! Excellent job. 😎
with the meow too, thank you
I always thought this song rocked
In the mid 80s I was working at a local TV station that aired WKRP in syndication. I edited a promo for the show using the closing theme and cutting video from some of the funnier moments. Viewers actually called in requesting we run the promo. Loved that song and that’s from someone who spent a couple of hours listening to it as I edited.
"As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly!"
Honestly that Thanksgiving episode is still the best Thanksgiving thing I have ever seen!!! Les Nessman & those two other goofs Herb & the boss, priceless!!! #WKRP4Life!!!
I really love the closing theme.
Magnificent tribute to the guest actors.
Man, this has the late 70s written all over it. I loved this show and my older cousin would hit that GREEN while watching it. I was a little kid when this show ran first run.
Came flooding back to me when Simpsons played this as their closing theme one episode. Hadn’t heard it in 25 years probably.
Always was a big fan of the WKRP closer. Also love how MTM sitcoms would close the show with clips of the supporting cast and guest stars. The "extended mix" is icing on the cake.
Hell yeah!!!
Love that kitten,too
Red toothed bartender, But she's not half bad
Real to the bone and a microphone in her heart
But then, good for now, I had a bird in hand
I said I would do it, and I put a life in our hearts.
This has been in my head for the last few weeks! Not sure why the closing theme and not the opening theme 🤣 This song was the business for me as a 7 yr old as I jumped on the bed pretending to play the bass!!
Greatest hard rock number no one can understand.
I would tend to agree...but let's not forget "Louie Louie'. I'm just sayin'.
Everyone THINKS they know the lyrics but noone will really ever know because it's the way they recorded it.Great song!
“I said, ‘Good bartender, I’ll have a beer and head out.’ I said I’m doin’ good and I’m puttin’ love in our hearts.”
Those are the last lines and there can be absolutely no debate on this.
Went to the bartender, Best night I ever had.
Sitting at the bar had a microphone in her heart. I said good bartender I have a bird in hand. I said I'm doing good, and putting love in our hearts.
MEOW
Awesome translation. It sounds damn close if not spot on.
The best gibberish ever...and 3 times!
Third time's the charm!
That is just total brilliance! Best TV theme song EVER!!!
Frank Bonner had a gorgeous head of hair in those days. It always drew my attention. That and he played Herb Tarlek perfectly.
@ilovethetampabaylightning92 I loved him his hair reminded me of Dean Martin's if you know who I'm talking about cause both guys' hair was curly...I hope you will reply to this
THIS very song is the reason for direction of my musical interests since I first heard it in mom and dads living room on tv circa 1980. I was about five. My dad hated the show but every week I’d make him turn the channel at the right time so I could hear this ridiculous song.
Thank you red tooth bartender… wherever your velvet Elvis 🔥🇺🇸
Elton John's Saturday Nights Alright for Fighting always reminded me of this song.
@davidlkeehoth7 even though the song came out in 1973 five years before WKRP in Cincinnati went on the air??????....I hope you will reply to this
@@sherryhannah498It's possible that this song took some inspiration from Elton John's song, sure.
This is what I hear:
A man tooth bar tena
Put'cha night aheada
Seein' you the mornin'
A back a poppa see ha-a-ah
I say
Good fun denim
I laugh bared in hey-la
I say I'm ruin doin'
And
Put a lotta milla hon
+David Cook I think most people are aware of that famous story, but if you're in a band and want to jam this song, what do you get the lead singer to sing?
And as far as gibberish goes, this is the coolest sounding nonsense that I know of.
+11db11 : "...but if you're in a band and want to jam this song, what do you get the lead singer to sing?" Anything he wants! (And he never has to worry about forgetting the lyrics!)
No, no, no! It's clearly:
Mantooth bartender
Spot you right ahead-a
Sing a little more in the microphone yeah uh-huh
I said, good bartender, I got burnin' hair
I said, the wood’s good
And you put an apple in our hearts
:D
Maybe they were channeling The Kingsmen, drawing inspiration from their song "Louie, Louie". Because even that song don't make much sense either! hahaha! XD
LMFAO. No sh*t
Stitched together from the shows of the first season. (The very early ones are in blue, mostly with character names beneath them.) This includes BOTH Mrs. Carlsons (Sylvia Sidney in the pilot, Carol Bruce from January 1979, when the show returned from a two-month hiatus).
It makes me ridiculously happy to hear this
This always reminded me of Bob Seger, musically, like something that could have been on Night Moves or Stranger In Town...one fun thing about WKRP is trying to spy the posters on the walls in the studio that varied from show to show.
April Wine
Really liked this show and loved both the opening and closing themes as a kid. The end theme always reminded me of the Rolling Stones.
The vocals in this song kick ass
I remember watching this as a kid tv was so good then
RIP Frank Bonner. Herb was always my favorite from the show!
Rest in Peace, Dr. Johnny Fever.
Although the lyrics may be complete nonsense this song still rocks. If I was driving and this song came on the radio I would totally blast it!
And didn't edit out mimsie at the end. Nicely done
Love ❤️ that show wkrp in Cincinnati
That last chord is actually quite cool!
Meow!! Cant forget that !! And the Kiss 1976 poster! Great be a kid then . Lonnie oh yes !!!
This is how most rock music sounded to my parents. They were the kind who loved that '50s rock and roll in its time (both were born in '38), but then tuned rock out in the Beatles era.
According to people who attended the recording sessions, Ellis didn't yet have lyrics for the closing theme, so he improvised a semi-comprehensible story about a bartender to give an idea of how the finished theme would sound. Wilson decided to use the words anyway, since he felt that it would be funny to use lyrics that were deliberate gibberish, as a satire on the incomprehensibility of many rock songs.[21] Because CBS always had an announcer talking over the closing credits, Wilson knew that no one would hear the closing theme lyrics.
What TV show has not one but two awesome themes? This one!
LOL... Michael Des Barres. first concert I ever went to, KISS in 1977, one of 3 shows at Madison Square Garden. Des Barres' band Detective opened. the other 2 nights, the opening act was Piper, Billy Squier's band
With all those actors that had to be one hell of an episode!
Lot of character actors in that lineup. The two standouts were Batman villains...Bob The Goon (Tracey Walter) and The Organ Grinder/Mr Vargas (Vincent Schiavelli)
Something about a bartender and there's a microphone in my heart maybe even a microphone in your hair, but definitely a bartender and rocking roll in our hearts
Wow, it's like a who's who of That Guy actors...
Definitely miss some aspects of the late 70s/early 80s TV and world.... this is one of them.
This video is like the K2 and Everest of 80's bit actors.
Now that's a rock and roll jam
Goddammit that's one of my childhood favorite songs ❤
Half the time U-tube is just audio for me and that means I might miss somethig as brilliant as your tribute. Great stuff Thank You.
Jan Smithers gave me a significant case of zipper strain on many an occasion back in the day
I'm watching the show on the Decades Binge, I have been watching this show all day, I think I have made through a season and a half all ready and still can not understand the end credit song.
Godamn this song just comes rippin out the gate
You never forget your first meow,
You never forget M T M.
My mother used to watch this when i was three years old🥰
Always LOVED this smart, yet underrated, show and both the opening and closing themes - especially the closing theme. WKRP is now showing at 9:30 p.m. PST on the DECADES channel. Hardly ever miss it.
I second that - great editing work!
RIP Howard Hesseman
Classic, iconic & freaking awesome 😎👍! Every character was spot on especially Dr Johnny Fever 🤗🥲❤️!
One of the greatest songs from wkrp the end credits
I don't even care if I don't understand the words, the instrumentals is catchy and hijacks my brain HARDCORE!
The kitty at the end is part of the closing song!
I remember the Who concert in Cincinnati episode. Classic show.
Incredibly smooth editing!!
R.I.P. Gordon Jump, Frank Bonner, & Howard Hesseman.
garry hixon in our hearts...rock n roll i our harts
Rock and roll jam
Ive always liked the this. Watched this show quite a bit when I was a kid. The ending theme credits song was great.
Cool video a very creative way to extend the closing credits to like every person that’s ever appeared on the show very funny
Every time I hear this song I’m taken back to being five years old, and knowing it was time for bed…
Great Show
I'm from Detroit (blow the reveille)!
It was intentional nonsense by Ellis.
(I don't even think HE quoted it right atf)
*"Mad-tooth bartender.*
*Watcha gonna have to have."*
*"Sing to da bar.*
*To the microphone I did uh huh."*
*"I said. Good bartender.*
*I like....better-than-hate-'er."*
*"And then I would do it.*
*And I could and then I did uh huh."*
(meow)
I am fairly certain about the last line.
- Dave B.
I agree about that last line.
(never seen anyone else get it that way)
The rest is hard to say.
Yours seems real possible though.