Don't Turn Your Shoulders In The Golf Swing

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  • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
    @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Do you try and turn and turn? Have you noticed iffy results despite trying to get MORE turn in your swing? Let me know below!

    • @lawrencekidman4033
      @lawrencekidman4033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ‘Don’t turn your shoulders…too much’ YOU are ALL arms! I have been told this, for years. I have played off 12/13 for decades, I have been playing for 35 years. A year ago Listening to many golf professionals I thought I must learn to swing ‘Properly’, use my body, not my arms. I have tried & tried to groove a greater turn into my swing, get my right hip back, keep a flat left wrist at the top of the back swing, then my left hip back through impact, etc, etc, The result, over the last year, I have struggled with inconsistency, when I was renowned (with my shorter/all arms swing) for being annoyingly consistent! My driving now is horribly unreliable. Then I listened tonight to this instruction, and recognised my old, reliable, enjoyable swing; & I said to myself…’You know what I’m going to dump all the fancy moves, & turns, because I can’t do them; this guy knows what he’s talking about’. A half to 2/3 swing, properly executed, is far more repeatable, & enjoyable. I’m off now to sign up to his site.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lawrencekidman4033 too common a story I’m afraid!!! But very glad you found your path and now can learn the moves and feels that work best for you. Well done and look forward to seeing the progress ;)

    • @MarkJ-zp6sy
      @MarkJ-zp6sy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @LawrenceKidman You wrote my story as well!

    • @stevenszyper3916
      @stevenszyper3916 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I do this BUT when I try to turn through the ball my lower body gets way out in front and it causes an over the top swing. Well you know what that causes... SLICE! When you do what you said in this video, how do you keep the lower body from getting way out in front and causing the over the top death move??

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenszyper3916 practice some with your trail leg pulled back to. E level with back of lead foot. Practice swing that and hit balls gently. We have a video or two on that. Right foot back drill etc

  • @amarug
    @amarug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    This might be irrelevant to most and it probably doesn't apply to anyone, but I find it interesting so I'll post it. I am a one armed golfer (right arm, RH clubs) and I essentially did exactly that first arm-driven swing the first 10 years of my life. My driver went maybe 160, spraying in all directions. Eventually I quit golf as my hcp was stuck at 25 and it would not move no matter how much I tried. Now a few years ago I picked it up again and decided to "delete" everything I knew and rebuild my swing from the ground up, literally. Now my arm is basically passive, I wind up my body massively, shift my weight well back (not swaying back of course, more a pressure shift), then I leave my arm "up there" and during that pause my weight drops back into the center and I sort of squat down and push off with my legs to kick in the hip turn and rotate my shoulders through. I went from crappy 160 sprays to hitting many fairways with up to 275 drives. And my accuracy went even almost more through the roof, my handicap 25 went down to breaking 80 regularly. The feeling now is unbelievable. Maybe my point is just: there are so many different ways to accelerate the club, maybe different people need different swings? I went from a very simple swing with terrible results to a really rather fancy and complicated swing with outrageous results. Sure it took a long time to practice and get the sequencing right but now it feels effortless and harmonic, it's become second nature and I am so glad I did this. Never in my dreams did I imagine in my 20s I could ever play like this.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Sorry just saw this! It sounds pretty good to me. It might get jerky if you try to hit AT the ball too much. So mind that. But keep at it and I’m sure there are things you can learn here too

    • @jc238
      @jc238 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Very impressive bro’, Amazing perseverance.

    • @FredCDobbs-er4qd
      @FredCDobbs-er4qd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting comment/story. Enjoy your golf.

    • @jasonbourne488
      @jasonbourne488 ปีที่แล้ว

      Truly amazing and inspirational. I would love to see a video of your swing and what you’ve accomplished.

    • @lloydmerryman3533
      @lloydmerryman3533 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@TheArtofSimpleGolf9

  • @knightwriter2989
    @knightwriter2989 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    OUTSTANDING!!!! I'm 6'3, 210 and have been athletic my entire life. I even run half marathons!!!
    But now I'm 59 years old and have been absolutely exhausted after a round of golf because I'm doing precisely what you cite. BIG, BIG shoulder turn and I'm all over the place with my irons and driver. This video just makes so, so much sense and keeps the game so simple. Thank you for a sane approach to golf!!!

  • @josephshawa
    @josephshawa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    FINALLY!!! Finally someone gets it! I found this myself after 3 years of a newby batting at balls. Now waiting for a rotator cuff surgery to heal. Try what he is saying with one hand and you will have better appreciation for how turning the torso and moving that shoulder high, quickly will impart tremendous speed into the club head. Now they are flying. I can't wait to get that right hand involved when the shoulder is healed.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Excellent well done and glad to have affirmed it for you. Hope your shoulder heals soon

  • @richardgauthier181
    @richardgauthier181 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Alex,
    You are a breath of fresh air...I have been doing the overturn golf swing for many years and have had very little success. The wind-up you teach is exactly what is needed to have a more compact golf swing with much better results. Thank you so much for keeping it simple. I will definitely keep watching your videos. You are definitely a 5-star Golf instructor.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated thank you and glad it’s given you some guidance that you need. Keep us posted and I’m sure we can help you progress

  • @feeryonski7906
    @feeryonski7906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Brilliant!
    I’ve been playing golf for more than 30 years. This is the magic for older weekend warriors. I’ve been coming back to this after taking hundreds of lessons from pros who want to make you swing like the pros!! Without practicing 3-4 times a week there’s no way that an ordinary person can do this!
    Thank you so much for teaching this the way you did!!

  • @extrememetaldrummer1
    @extrememetaldrummer1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Alex, spot on buddy! Everyone likes to overcomplicate, over-extend, and tell you that you have to get the golf club so far past your head. Too many swing thoughts. I'm a big guy, 6 feet, 230 and my swing is short like Rahm's. Powerful, nice and supple. My best and most purest strikes have been as a result of feeling the weight of the club and having supple arms and wrists. When you're tense and try to kill it and "turn," you lose so much distance. Thanks for this! I love following you bud!

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much but you are spot on! The golf swing can be easier

    • @extrememetaldrummer1
      @extrememetaldrummer1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheArtofSimpleGolf Indeed. I let the body lead naturally. Everything you say makes perfect sense.

  • @emmat7384
    @emmat7384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    First time I’ve ever left a comment on TH-cam. And. I’m an avid watcher. I have been learning for two months and had 4 lessons and watched a lot of TH-cam!! Alex. You are an excellent teacher. What you said resonated with me so much. It turned my game around. Thank you so much x

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well I’m honored and very glad you’re with us know. Hope to keep helping. Cheers! 🏌️‍♂️👍

  • @adamhazelwood5282
    @adamhazelwood5282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Fantastic lesson for club golfers. I learned to do this the hard way and am now one of the most consistent ball strikers at my club. Playing with loose wrists is an art in itself and key to distance. Simple golf makes the game much more enjoyable.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Excellent to hear that and wonderful proof for folks. Keep at it

  • @christianglaser1524
    @christianglaser1524 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Strugeling 47 years of golf. I had to wait for you to understand how to swing consistently. Incredible. Thank you, many man thans. Shame on many other golf pros, who were not able to explain to me, what you did in 10 minutes Video including your pitching videos. Great. Great. Greatissimo. 🎉

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Christian! Although I’m sorry you’ve had too much frustration in your golf journey but trust me we are all golfers and have had many frustrating experiences and periods where we go down the wrong path.
      I’m glad to have nudged you in the right direction and happy you’re with us now.
      Keep at it 👍🏌️‍♂️⛳️💪

  • @joevladovich2075
    @joevladovich2075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I’m 66 years old and what you described is pretty much my swing for the past several years. Works quite well for me as I have been shooting my best scores during that time frame. Thanks for reinforcing the swing method I utilize.

  • @outdooroutfitters3658
    @outdooroutfitters3658 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great information! I've always taught that you push the grip end back with your left arm and shoulder, which in turn creates all the shoulder turn you gonna get.

  • @cgvagf
    @cgvagf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your the man brother! I've been playing for 25 years, and I've watched all your videos this year, and I've never hit my irons better than the last few times I played. I did not top, scull, or hit any balls thin, I didn't chunk not even one shot. I hit a 185 yard 6 iron in 50 degree weather by the way, and I'm 60 years old, in fact ALL my irons are going much farther lately. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well that's brilliant to hear! Well done Eric and keep going.

    • @josephwirtz8352
      @josephwirtz8352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Congrats Eric, a 185 6 iron in 50 degree weather is massive. I’m curious, what ball do/were you playing?

    • @cgvagf
      @cgvagf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josephwirtz8352 Taylor made, it was slightly downhill, but nonetheless, all my iron shots were flying off the face. I hit an uphill 7 iron 159 into the wind on the same cold day, just another sweet green on reg that day. I attribute most of it to a left bowed wrist pointing towards the ground, shaft lean, & a downward strike while raising & opening the hips through impact. Those were the swing thoughts I had

  • @jamessmith5909
    @jamessmith5909 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You confirmed that there is more than one way to doing the golf club. I have had 3 hip replacement, 2 knee replacement and 4 ankle surgeries. This information is a life saver for the ability to continue play the sport that I love. James L Smith- Smitty.

  • @christophers.1517
    @christophers.1517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I agree with you on this, Alex. What you are describing here is essentially the Stack and Tilt system. I am a big fan of S and T. It has helped me tremendously with hitting the ball consistently with sufficient power and accuracy. I’m not sure why some people seem to get put off when the words “Stack and Tilt” are used when talking about learning how to play solid golf. I can only imagine that those people have not tried it themselves. But, as I said, I have and it has helped me a great deal.

    • @martynmantack4026
      @martynmantack4026 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it’s def S&T I’ve just started playing the stack and tilt way and my ball striking as improved no end

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s similar in some ways the first swing I describe.. but a lot less rotation and no tucking the pelvis under.
      More free flowing.
      S&T was taken from many elements of good golf swings. So there is always lots of crossover.

    • @Bel-Canto77
      @Bel-Canto77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@martynmantack4026 it's a good way of hitting irons. Stack and tilt most commonly revert to as stacking shelves on the tour e.g if you take it up you will be working in a warehouse....yet good for the amateurs...

  • @gregcosier407
    @gregcosier407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The hands going out, the shoulders turning has an added negative for me of the wrists locking producing a down swing of total disconnect. Your sample swing looks like mine on a good day. You have given me hope, no small thing, thank you

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well that’s good to hear! Keep us posted and ask any questions

  • @Ray-ur8ei
    @Ray-ur8ei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Alex, I've been watching your videos and many others for years now and this is such a great swing thought, "wind up". You can stand virtually still and just wind up. It does feel very powerful. Add a little weight shift, turn, and follow-through and it feels great. I've been trying to wind up by turning my shoulders and hips, but there is not that much actual wind up of the torso. Thank you.

  • @jwdly156
    @jwdly156 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is working very well for me Alex. I also find it easier to think about my right hip going a little behind me and this helps me to better time the transfer of my weight to my left side in the downswing. I have been getting more lag and can even feel the bendy feel in the end of my club shaft. I think I finally get what they mean when they say "...cover the ball". Thanks a lot - John Woodley

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  ปีที่แล้ว

      That sounds good to me. Stick with it 🏌️‍♂️👍

  • @stanleywatson6247
    @stanleywatson6247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Alex, I have been trying to teach myself the Mike Austin swing. Studied those Austin / Dunaway videos a dozen times. The shoulder tilt explained by you fixes a major hurdle to me. Thank you so much.

  • @dannieves5040
    @dannieves5040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been watching a lot of people give advice but you really make it simple, I’ve watched 3 other videos and after practicing and applying your suggestions my game has improved, thank you! I’ll keep watching!!!

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well i'm delighted to hear that. It's exactly the goal :)

  • @MarkJ-zp6sy
    @MarkJ-zp6sy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Damn, this is so timely and accurate! I came to the same conclusion today on the range. Reduced my shoulder turn to help make more consistent solid contact. Thank you for the validation and additional instruction!

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      More than welcome!

    • @douglaskim7186
      @douglaskim7186 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the simple idea. You deminstrated with 7 iron. It looks fantastic.
      What about long clubs like fairway wood or driver? What kind of imagination do we need to add for longer club, because longer one eventually requires swinging more horizontally around the body?

  • @rodperezm
    @rodperezm 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The best golf tip i have ever seen. Simple and effective. Made me gain 20 yards and great consistency.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well that’s great to hear!! Well done and keep going;)

  • @kimgongchaTV
    @kimgongchaTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really appreciate it. I am one of the beginners in Korea who is suffering from turning shoulders that makes me a lot of poor swings. I will practice and practice via your videos. Thank you so much!

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi to Korea! Welcome to this crazy game and I’m sure we can help here.

  • @briangaitens4227
    @briangaitens4227 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have had many lessons, every instructor tells me turn shoulders allot, etc, then every time i do this they tell me my shaft is flat and my hands are too much in the inside and i need Toe up, etc, etc. When i practice on my own and try to get toe up and shaft not so flat! my feeling is I'm picking up /lifting my arms on the back swing, exactly what your saying in this video!! but because of all the lessons i have had and listening to all the instructors,,,,,,I thought by doing this i was Totally Wrong but now i understand it is ok and works for me and many others. I hit the ball much better when doing your feel, but subconsciously revert back to turning shoulders because instructor tells me turn more with body and shoulders and No Arms!! You are the first instructor that actually tells this, just like i feel and have explained. Will definitely subscribe and watch your videos. P.S. My driver has always been my best club and guess what even after having lessons, my feeling is take away with Arms and lifting my hands higher and i get it out there consistently and on fairway.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s all too common I’m afraid. It really is vital to know what you can do and too many instructors try and fit you into a “model”.
      Well done for getting there and glad to help refine and validate

  • @setmefree2818
    @setmefree2818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He's playing my course. Well, he's a member and he so freaking cool. I took video for him once. I was rolling greens and he asked me. I was honored. A sweet, great guy.

  • @timhayes8071
    @timhayes8071 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Alex ,wish I had seen this many years ago after wearing my left hip out trying to turn (really forcing it) I guess now 25 years later the feel is to use the arms and have that lovely feeling that the club handle is just dropping down vertically which then allows the clubhead to drop down naturally (allowing natures gravity to swing the club not trying to force it.) Many thanks for putting this video out

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry lol! Very glad we got there for you and it resonated. Keep going and I’m sure more progress is attainable

  • @akwal1
    @akwal1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid sir !
    I found this out the hard way over 40 years of golf !
    TILT not TURN, I have one feel and that is on the takeaway my left shoulder tilts and my hands move parallel to my legs. This consistently gets my club in the right position at the top of the swing, then just go.
    The smoother your swing the better as that gels the whole swing together.
    I don't care about distance, it's always ACCURACY over DISTANCE for me. I don't miss many fairways now and this is key to consistency and scoring well.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep!! It’s perhaps the biggest misconstrued terms in instruction.
      Keep at it

  • @Pulse2AM
    @Pulse2AM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The problem is swaying away from the ball, you need to keep the sternum centered and rotate around a central axis. A big shoulder turn done correctly is a good thing as the big muscles in the back are adding power.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes indeed. But most golfers just can’t do that. And when they try, it causes all sorts of mess.
      It’s also about feel vs real.

  • @Razjac1602
    @Razjac1602 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hear you! I’ve recently “fixed” my long suffering short game (chipping mainly) by eliminating a conscious effort/intention to turn my lead shoulder on the take away but rather initiate the movement with my hands (and allow the shoulders/upper body to “follow” as a consequence). My club head stays outside my hands as a result and I no longer deliver from the inside. It’s made all the difference.

  • @ktara1033
    @ktara1033 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so much for the great video. I used to hit like that and was making a lot of progress until I started taking lessons and everything started going south from there. I tried this on the range and almost every shot was great contact. Thanks again.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonderful! Keep going and hope we have others that can help too

  • @carlkeehn1262
    @carlkeehn1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow, what great instruction. This has to help anyone with limited flexibility or injuries. I am a Tom Saguto follower with his stack and tilt. I really like your instruction as a version of stack and tilt. Great work!!

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very kind thank you! Yes, I prefer a more fluid way of swinging rather than than making folks fit a model. Stack and tilt has plenty of merit though as all it did was focus and exaggerate some specific commonalties amongst many great swings and strike.

  • @jtboise1
    @jtboise1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love your videos. You make things simple and clear. The supple wrists are what I've found to be valuable, together with a straight left arm. Keep up the good work.

  • @pierrepaulveilleux
    @pierrepaulveilleux 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    With you, golf is different. It becomes more simple. I need to feel the things and with you the way you teach.

  • @danborer3152
    @danborer3152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been looking for this swing for 10 years . I am 67 and a pretty athletic guy for my age but after and accident I had to have my lower back fussed in two places . Turning in the golf swing now HUTRS ! this swing is for me . I watched the driver lesson also Thanks Dan

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  ปีที่แล้ว

      Great!! Hope it helps you! We have the short swing maximizer program that can help too and some others on here TH-cam

  • @brianloomis7007
    @brianloomis7007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm 56 years old. This is the feel I've been wanting for soooo many years. Going to go out today and practice this after work, trying to get to where I'm consistently in the low 80's and breaking 80, a frustrating but fun journey.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Golf. A frustrating but fun journey. Ain’t that the truth lol. Let us know how you get on

  • @YUNBOOLIU
    @YUNBOOLIU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dear Alex,
    You are the best !!!
    You have cleared my 30 year long misconcept.
    Really appreciate your perfect lesson.
    From Seoul.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi! Thank you very much 🏌️‍♂️👍⛳️

  • @danielrose3687
    @danielrose3687 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m 63 with lower back & right side abdominal issues. This advice is essential for me to keep playing golf and lessen post golf pain. Plus it will improve recreational golfers game 100%. Brilliant instructions. Do the hard part of working at it and enjoy the game more… 👍

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent! Thank you for sharing and keep at it.

  • @anth1235
    @anth1235 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is an old video but i absolutely love this analogy. Ive really struggled to understand the difference between tilt, turn, rotation, use your body, how the hips work together with the body. The last part of this video what shows the winding up and the starting of a lawnmower. I cant wait to give this a go at the range. I like that you touched on stack and tilt too, im stuck between 2 styles. I was trying S+T because the whole staying still and moving round the lead leg made sense to me then i had some lessons what proved i was reverse pivoting but this then had me rotating and slightly swaying becUse i was too concious about where my weight needs to be and it lead to more inconsistency. I feel like this video could be a golden nugget for me, thank you.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s great!
      S&T only really works for a few. If you have longer arms for example, the swing will be very challenging in places

  • @keninglis178
    @keninglis178 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent video that makes a lot of sense especially to a senior golfer like myself. All my iron shots now feel like I’m hitting a pitching wedge - going for accuracy rather than power!. I feel more in control of my golf swing. What was ruining my golf game was that turning was destroying geometry, balance timing etc. Thank you so much. What a shame that I didn’t know this 50 years ago. Ps one thing I would mention is don’t try to make up for lost yardage by lunging forward on the downswing

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you kindly and hope it helps! and yes.. don't force or lunge!

  • @glennbonin2677
    @glennbonin2677 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks!

  • @mikecampbell119
    @mikecampbell119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a brilliant video! Had some lessons a few years back from a successful pro who drilled into me that you must move the left shoulder aggressively away from the ball. This guy had a relatively short backswing and just crushed the ball. I truly enjoy your videos, there are gold nuggets in every one! Thanks.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent to hear and yes, once you find a key feel or two… it can become a tenant of your own swing.

    • @ram0666
      @ram0666 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheArtofSimpleGolf Never heard a pro or anybody preach to turn the left shoulder aggressively. Maybe aggressively getting from starting downswing to impact but if turning aggressively is taught you need to do what the old timers say to do and that is to run as far away from that guy as you can and do it now.

  • @patrickwalker6063
    @patrickwalker6063 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    61 year old senior golfer struggling off 8 handicap. This feels like a complete change of Swing and takes some getting use to of course. Now seems so easy - no turn and left shoulder back. Ball flies long and straight. No effort. Brilliant instruction videos. Thanks

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well glad to hear it and exactly the desired goal and purpose of this quick lesson. Cheers

  • @rustyrider6476
    @rustyrider6476 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mr Alex Fortey, that is probably the best instructional video I have ever seen, tried it today and it is amazing.

  • @johnschwartz1536
    @johnschwartz1536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Alex! I have been using the lifting and dropping principal and I have seen some results. I feel that my ball hitting consistency has improved tremendously. I'm going to keep working on it. Keep up the good work!

  • @shaggydogj
    @shaggydogj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I swear this turn move was what they were teaching in the nineties. After watching your video, the lawn mower/bow-and-arrow move clicked with me. I feel more compact and literally like a spring tightly coiled and ready to explode. There isn’t a timing to it as you mentioned with the old turning method. All the energy gets delivered into the ball now. Thank you for the advice.

  • @2309119
    @2309119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just found your channel, been using my version of this kinda just going back until I feel the initial torque, which is between 9 & 10 o'clock, then firing through to between 1 & 2 o'clock, I've been doing this for the last year & been hitting my driver better than the first 30+ years, I just subscribed, looking forward to more of your tips, thank you!🤙

  • @chatenpatel3808
    @chatenpatel3808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I have been doing this swing previously but lost it. This video has finally got me back...only one of its kind.

  • @MichaelLittle47
    @MichaelLittle47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like this. I've noticed when I keep the golf swing more on a "flat plane" - that's the term I used to describe the feeling - that everything just falls into place much more easily.

  • @lootina
    @lootina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic lesson mate, this the best swing thought I ever heard, you really make the 'swing' concept that I know into somewhat more of a lateral movement, rather than the 'rounding' concept. Almost like a reciprocating/piston movement. Thanks a lot

  • @michaelkang5021
    @michaelkang5021 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! In 15min, you got me not worrrying about turning the shoulders and feel so much centered and more consistent... Thank you sir!!

  • @windyknot2094
    @windyknot2094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any semblance of a golf swing I had a month ago is in the rear view mirror, Im just about ready to pack it in for the season and go fishing. This instruction could be my savior. Thanks.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I’m optimistic this will help and simplify a great deal! Let us know how you get on!

  • @khaleelazan8903
    @khaleelazan8903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is a great Alex . We'll put together. I am definitely going to give this my best shot. I have already started seeing some improvement since I started

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marvelous and well done! Keep going and enjoy the crazy golf journey:)

  • @richardblack9623
    @richardblack9623 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fabulous Alex...beautifully explained. Heading straight down to the range to test this feeling.

  • @mikehenry4620
    @mikehenry4620 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yep. Thanks for grounding me again. I’ve lost my iron swing. I do what you say for Pw-8 iron and strike well. At 7-iron and below I add turn to generate power and everything goes wrong. If I limit my back swing by limiting turn I generate better power. Going to test this tomorrow. Thx

  • @songunsongun6253
    @songunsongun6253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been thinking about this for a long time, glad to hear from a pro instructor, if I may say the purpose of the shoulder turning is to follow the hands, do not even think about turning the shoulder just allow the hands to make the backswing, I would imagine like single backhand in tennis......

  • @cpond007
    @cpond007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Outstanding video Sir!
    Side bend...and tilt>Brilliant!
    Thank you!

  • @GWills-ys6rd
    @GWills-ys6rd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree, I have much more power and accuracy when I don't try to rotate the shoulders. Too many golf professionals have been appraising swings as being too 'handsy' and not athletic enough, which is wrong for many. For me, the focus is on the three-inch takeaway being on plane and the windup followed by reasonable rotation through the ball. That's it, no other thoughts are needed apart from good fundamentals (grip, posture, balance).

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      99% of golfers can’t do what the pros tell them to do to be like the tour players. No fault of their own.

  • @DIOS10
    @DIOS10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Top video.. so much of my swing at start. And everyone keeps advising me not to use arms, just body only for power. No wonder I struggle.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad to help. There is merit to the other.. but just not always or for everyone! Keep at it :)

  • @philipchan1856
    @philipchan1856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Make sense. Swing coach Pete Cowan also advocates the twisting of upper torso.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I still find the spiral tricky for golfers over 50 most of the time

  • @lukaszszwed7776
    @lukaszszwed7776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have been practicing this move in my golf swing and straightaway my golf has improved because I keep doing the same thing every time can’t believe how this has changed my golf game amazing 👍

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good stuff and glad to hear it's what you needed.

  • @davidmeeks7449
    @davidmeeks7449 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Alex, when are you coming to the US? Your instruction is much easier to follow than most.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I am led to believe that Louisville Kentucky is in USA:)

  • @mfiles7889
    @mfiles7889 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, so much for this tip. It has been absolutely amazing to help me to start to get in the right place. Your teaching style is amazing. I love the content the way you explain what to do is so perfect for beginners.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  ปีที่แล้ว

      You are so welcome! Very much appt it delighted been able to nudge you in the right direction

  • @Pinethicket
    @Pinethicket ปีที่แล้ว

    Going to play this evening and give it a try. I can't do any worse than what I'm doing now. My son tells me to stop trying to crush the ball just hit it. What your teaching makes perfect sense . Thanks a lot.

  • @bernarddeng7237
    @bernarddeng7237 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much. I prefer your method. Easy for senior golfers like me.

  • @davidcavon637
    @davidcavon637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use this technique on almost all par three holes...gives me a very straight and consistent shot, especially when I tee the ball up about a half inch.

  • @rrando99
    @rrando99 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Outstanding Instruction! Thank you for getting us "OUTSIDE the box"

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That’s the goal!! Thanks for the kind words much appreciated and glad you’ve joined us. 🏌🏽👍

  • @5p4rk52
    @5p4rk52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant video, very easy to follow and very well explained. As a new golfer this was perfect for me. Just subscribed. Thank you.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well I’m delighted you’re with us and welcome to the art of simple golf and this crazy game lol ;)

  • @brianelliott536
    @brianelliott536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The absolute MAGIC move - many thanks for this ☮️

  • @ivanlys4377
    @ivanlys4377 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lesson thank you.
    Its good to read the other responses who have found success with this swing thought.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate that!… and yes, it can really help many. I’m confident you will be one of them:)

  • @michaelgoldman2869
    @michaelgoldman2869 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As an much older golfer, I definitely will try this swing. I shot 43 on back nine of my home last week.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Let me know how it goes

    • @michaelgoldman2869
      @michaelgoldman2869 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It getting a little brisk out on the North Shore of Long Island, NY
      I’ll going in December to Scottsdale, AZ
      So. How can I practice this “SWING” indoors.
      By, the way we use to have a place at PGA National in south Florida, the Honda Classic
      Our place was about 600 yards from the BEAR TRAP STATUE🤙🏻🤙🏻

  • @thephotographer539
    @thephotographer539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good to hear an arms-only swing kind of legitimised! Its my go-to when I can't hit a thing, and I never play that badly when I use it. But I resist it because I'm thinking 'its totally wrong, its not a real golf swing'. I found it pretty useless with the driver though?

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Driver is about set up and allowing the release. Have some videos on it re the what type of driver swing is best for you etc

  • @kimcooper8272
    @kimcooper8272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked your explanation of turning verses winding up. And getting my left shoulder back around.
    I enjoy your videos. I always get something helpful from them. Thank you!

  • @AmicitiaDevonRex
    @AmicitiaDevonRex ปีที่แล้ว

    Fabulous advice - WOW I had a great round in the comp. last Wednesday. Thank you soooo much Alex!

  • @markb5775
    @markb5775 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is what I am working on this off season. Great video

  • @MattiasA72
    @MattiasA72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello. New subscriber here. When I play my best golf, I make sure I use a shorter backswing. My feel is I'm doing a half backswing. I'm actually doing more, but it feels that way. I think I'm in a combination of the two ways you speak about, in that I am a stacked player with more weight forward. Letting the right leg straighten in the backswing is very important to wind up properly. When I struggle, I get too flat with my shoulders in the backswing. I've been struggling to find the right feel to get the left shoulder going down. I've just been outside to feel the right shoulder going up, instead of the left shoulder down, and it helped. Will try it on the range and course tomorrow. Thank you.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome ! Yes indeed it sounds like the right shoulder up will help a lot.. a few other videos we have on backswing will help that tilt. Keep at it!

  • @alancarlyon3928
    @alancarlyon3928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine a gate being your arms, your left foot (right handed golfer/s) is the post that holds the spring gate, then it's just an open and shut case as gate hit latch everytime!
    Great video as normal Alex!

  • @peterquinn4747
    @peterquinn4747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Alex love your lessons finely someone who explains things clearly thank you

  • @zb5715
    @zb5715 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wish you would have explained this for the driver as well. I know I could translate some of it, but to see it done and listen to you explain it with the driver would be incredibly helpful! Thank you for this though, I am going to start working on this today!

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Planning on a driver one for TH-cam. It’s already in our online club.

  • @andymoore7854
    @andymoore7854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I ve been doing this move on the range for quite a long time and been flushing it pretty much every time so great tip not took it to the course yet hoping it's just a matter of patience 🤞👍

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes but most importantly being specific in your pre shot goals and intent and then matching it with intermediate point etc. we have videos on it and an entire series for the simple process

  • @mitchschneider1927
    @mitchschneider1927 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old golfer, bad back. Just tried in the house while watching your video. I gotta say it feels great, can't wait to try it on a golf ball. BIG 👍

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wonderful! Let me know how it goes 🏌️‍♂️👍

  • @fernan2m1
    @fernan2m1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks, very very clear and you make it really simple, I’ll try that!

  • @TheBigdaddy1957
    @TheBigdaddy1957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is me! I'm 65 with 3 back surgeries and 1 hip surgery. I just don't work the way I use to. Thank You for this help

  • @dannieves5040
    @dannieves5040 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This lesson describes what I do most of the time with my irons, played a round yesterday and shot an 88 which to me is excellent in a par 76. My irons were dialed in but I only hit maybe 5 good drives, can you put a video together using the same concept as this video using the driver? BTW, I’m 60, I’m still pretty flexible so if you would address the older golfer it would be awesome! Please let us know when you make your way to Houston, would love to shake hands and thank you.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Dan! Yes and it’s been planned for a little while as many requests. I hope to release it in the next month

  • @elderhiker7787
    @elderhiker7787 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good video and I have come to the same conclusions after years and years of experimentation. However, I have experienced much greater success with the irons using this method than with with the driver or 3-wood. My question: are there different swing thoughts and procedures with the driver off the tee than with irons off the ground?

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The set up is abig factor and the feel of staying back to release. See fatuously or driver videos

  • @dougcox3094
    @dougcox3094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Indeed it does! What a joy to hit straight balls consistently.

  • @bobkeeven8157
    @bobkeeven8157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    love the swing thoughts. thanks, can't wait to try it

  • @JL-qo7cs
    @JL-qo7cs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This seems to describe my problem. I will work on this. I have trouble getting heighth on my shots, especially the driver.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It could yes. We have several on the driver to help

  • @EasternNCSportbikes
    @EasternNCSportbikes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks and sounds like the ole stack and tilt! I am doing stack and tilt myself, I cant be consistent and time the conventional swing we see today, so ive converted to the dark side, stack and tilt with single length irons. trying to make this game less complicated haha

    • @gerrymorcom5001
      @gerrymorcom5001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have the haha feeling too. Stack and Tilt and Cobra 1length irons, for five years now. Best golf I’ve ever played.

    • @EasternNCSportbikes
      @EasternNCSportbikes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gerrymorcom5001 ​ glad to hear, that means there's hope for me. im 1 year into golf now, after lessons and MANY range days I wasn't improving at the pace I thought was fast enough due to being so inconsistent. I recently hit some of the best shots ever with my irons so now im addicted to getting better with stack and tilt.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Good for you and keep at it!

  • @financialexpertsnetwork6827
    @financialexpertsnetwork6827 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent tips with great cues. Thank you so much

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate that and I’m confident they can help

  • @markwibberley8699
    @markwibberley8699 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very like right sided swing taught by Gary Edwin. Well explained

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not aware of that particular model but will have a look. 👍

  • @jimmywan1548
    @jimmywan1548 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are really something different. Amazing content. Can’t wait to go through the rest of your other videos. Thanks so much!

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  ปีที่แล้ว

      I appreciate that! And really happy you’re with us!

  • @MaxHartshorneFilms
    @MaxHartshorneFilms 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video and a very effective approach. It strongly reminds me of 1950s book "The golf secret" by H.A. Murray. He was very focussed on wind-up, and the left shoulder as a key swing thought.

  • @coachmills3429
    @coachmills3429 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thx for tips. I'm currently struggling with my driver.

  • @eulerthegreatestofall147
    @eulerthegreatestofall147 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Many Thanks, My game has completely changed since using this video as a reference.

  • @paulakoncki4029
    @paulakoncki4029 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think that was just my problem, over swinging!! I was told, by my friend , that I don't turn my shoulders and since I tried to turn my shoulders I over turned, hitting very bad shots! Thank you for sharing this great tip! Stay safe! 🥰⛳️🏌️‍♀️

  • @grahamjones7371
    @grahamjones7371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ive always been a massive overturner,maybe because im massive! Key for me is heavy arms and getting the bulk! of my right side out of the way fast and early,then im already starting to recenter. Turn to Throw dont turn to Hit is another Key. My latest "secret" was ATs SBG but guess what i started overdoing/turning with it! All sorted now just had my 1st ever 4 birdies in a row!

    • @grahamjones7371
      @grahamjones7371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I can definitely relate to your lawnmower.bownarrow analogy at the end of the video,thats whats working for me,youeve got to find your key.

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well that is good news !! Well done and very happy to hear it’s helping simplify

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes exactly!

  • @velovol
    @velovol 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video my swing coach just went over this very topic on Friday. One thing he emphasized with me was not getting my lead/left knee over my toes. In fact it feels like I barely bend it. Do you have any content or feedback on the lead knee in the backswing after practicing what he told me for a few days I feel like I could use a drill to help understand that better,

    • @TheArtofSimpleGolf
      @TheArtofSimpleGolf  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It sounds like he is trying more of a stacked swing with you. Depends on your mobility and skill to get back to the ball with the free flowing swing you want.

  • @ernestopinedo2174
    @ernestopinedo2174 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yes, you are correct. I do do and think that way

  • @georgiamay4045
    @georgiamay4045 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like the release the forward shoulder idea .. stack and tilt ?? don't know about that..

  • @kevinmurphy8644
    @kevinmurphy8644 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your instruction is excellent - you’ve described me 100%