How We Rebuilt Our Boats Rudder

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  • After we pulled our rudder apart, and unearthing a bit of a mess. In this episode we start the hard work of actually putting it back together again.
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    Rudder project materials list:
    West System:
    105 Epoxy resin
    205 (fast setting) Hardener
    206 (slow setting) Hardener
    406 Colloidal Silica
    3M - 5200 Fast Cure (sealant/adhesive)
    3M - P592 Metal Primer
    Expanding Epoxy Foam:
    Sicomin PB250 resin
    Sicomin DM02 hardener
    Fibreglass Lay-Up Schedule:
    Internal:-
    Combination 225/450
    Biaxial 450
    Cross Weave 450
    Biaxial 450
    Cross Weave 450
    Biaxial 450
    Cross Weave 450
    External:-
    Chopped Strand 600
    Biaxial 450
    Cross Weave 450
    Biaxial 450
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  • @tienloongtong
    @tienloongtong 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thanx so much for your work. You are completely different to the usual glib crap. Sound advice and craftsmanship solidly explained; which is what we really need when considering making the similar move. refreshingly practical. and thank god no privileged kids high fiving each other and traipsing half naked as if that kind of vicariousness is what we are after. Again, thanx.

  • @RichardBull4677
    @RichardBull4677 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great to be able to see the epoxy foam expanding inside and filling all the gaps, fantastic job guys !

  • @learigg
    @learigg ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome job. You should have titled it Orca Proof mods, I'm guessing you would have a few thousand more views but the comment section would be like the wild west.

  • @andymarshall2201
    @andymarshall2201 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Miles, you’re both as good as Mads and Ava, really great videos and excellent workmanship. Well done to both of you.

  • @silvanocometta9760
    @silvanocometta9760 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I like your use of the periodic table in your titles. Greetings from a formerly sailing biochemist.

  • @V8guy3500
    @V8guy3500 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That’s quite a job Miles 😮top quality work. This will be the how to forever. 5 ⭐️

  • @darrenpye-rs4yf
    @darrenpye-rs4yf ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for explaining the process as you go and what you used, very interesting 😊

  • @dinacaldwell7522
    @dinacaldwell7522 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Simply wonderful work and the craftsmanship is stunning

  • @svlamancha9877
    @svlamancha9877 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video. Looking forward to your next project videos. 👍

  • @icecreamlifer123123
    @icecreamlifer123123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Excellent videography!

  • @MadsTofteChannel
    @MadsTofteChannel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Beautiful workmanship.

    • @SailingHiraeth
      @SailingHiraeth  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you very much 😊

  • @tarivard
    @tarivard ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Super awesome workmanship.

  • @svlamancha9877
    @svlamancha9877 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just wondering what volume your rudder turned out to be and how much Sicomin foam you used. 👍

    • @SailingHiraeth
      @SailingHiraeth  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi there,
      The volume of the rudder was:
      11.25 packs of Rice Krisipies @ 4.09 litres per pack = 46.01 Litres
      The foam expands to x4 it's original volume (weight=volume), so:
      46.01 litres ÷ 4 = 11.5 litres
      Sicomin recommend ordering + 10% of required volume:
      11.5 litres + 10% = 12.65 litres
      It comes in 6.8kg packs, so I ordered 2 of these and mixed 11.8kg this was just enough to fill the rudder once expanded.
      Hope this helps.

    • @svlamancha9877
      @svlamancha9877 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for the detailed reply. 👍

  • @myoldtractorshed
    @myoldtractorshed ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you.

  • @awanghabakkuk533
    @awanghabakkuk533 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Orca proof 💁🏻‍♂️

    • @SailingHiraeth
      @SailingHiraeth  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I hope we never have to put that to the test 😬

  • @dinacaldwell7522
    @dinacaldwell7522 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That is the best epoxy layup without vacuum bagging I have ever seen on TH-cam

    • @somyrab
      @somyrab 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Especially compared to the work being done on Uma.

  • @Anne6621
    @Anne6621 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    now this is how you rebuild a rudder , finally someone doing it right

  • @livingforsail
    @livingforsail 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That's some really tidy work there! It looks like a really well thought out approach the rebuild. Did you have any issues with the expanding foam pressing out on the shells? It looks like it went pretty well.

    • @SailingHiraeth
      @SailingHiraeth  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hey, thanks.
      There were no issues with the expanding foam. We calculated to overfill by 10% as recommended by Sicomin. The stuff expands really slowly so there's very minimal internal pressure on the casing.
      Check Mads video @saillife, he does some good testing of the expansion rates.
      th-cam.com/video/2RFzH_NB148/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DU-J13TJRcorgOzw

  • @normanboyes4983
    @normanboyes4983 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Excellent work all round.👍

  • @dinacaldwell7522
    @dinacaldwell7522 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Using a large zip lock type bag like a pastry bag with the corner cut off allows easy and rapid application of thickened epoxy and then follow the line with a plastic spoon gives the perfect curve for getting glass mat to cover.

  • @SimonJones-jy8ly
    @SimonJones-jy8ly 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Lovely detailed explanation of what you did, thank you. The reason the frame was in such good condition was that it was originally encased in fibreglass. I didn't really understand why you chose not to redo it the same way. Is the foam impermeable?

    • @SailingHiraeth
      @SailingHiraeth  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, the foam we used is epoxy and forms a hydrophobic closed cell structure.
      This (in theory) means that even if the rudder gets damaged there should never be any water ingress.

    • @SailingHiraeth
      @SailingHiraeth  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you liked the video 😁

  • @RagtimeBillyPeaches
    @RagtimeBillyPeaches 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Because the leading edge of a rudder is subject to variable angles of pitch, a rounded leading edge is preferable to minimize stalling.

  • @aidanbyrne7365
    @aidanbyrne7365 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great work, I can smell that resin from here.

  • @jean-pierrepannierdesrivie4406
    @jean-pierrepannierdesrivie4406 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Superb job ! Best regards from FRANCE.

  • @dinacaldwell7522
    @dinacaldwell7522 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just a tip, if you ever have to do a layup like this again if you wait till the epoxy is just rigid on the edge lip you can take a utility razor and easily cut off excess cloth. This prevents having to cut it cured which takes longer and risks cutting the original edge you were glassing to.

  • @peterbooth2804
    @peterbooth2804 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another outstanding post. Hopefully we won't have to do that but you've given plenty if food for thought. Thank you.
    P.S.
    Phenomenal teamwork too are you both psychic ?

  • @craigbradley1752
    @craigbradley1752 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hello, we have 1988 Centurion 47 in Greece and notice a ‘weep’ at the bottom of the rudder. No doubt in need to the same treatment as you have been through. Would you think it is possible to do without having to remove the rudder itself? Many thanks, we really enjoy your videos

    • @SailingHiraeth
      @SailingHiraeth  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Glad you enjoyed the video. Unfortunately this is probably not the answer you are looking for, but yes you will definitely need to remove the rudder.

    • @craigbradley1752
      @craigbradley1752 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True, not the answer we were looking for but thanks nonetheless for your honesty 😢

  • @thurmansimon
    @thurmansimon 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! I’m rebuilding my rudder as well on my 1987 Centurion 42 😂 how much of the expanding foam did you use? Thanks!

    • @SailingHiraeth
      @SailingHiraeth  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The short answer is we used 2 tins, we do break the calculations down in the video.
      Bare in mind that temperature also has a contributing factor to the expansion rate.

  • @nedfisher3688
    @nedfisher3688 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Merci!

    • @SailingHiraeth
      @SailingHiraeth  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Big thanks, really appreciated

  • @wdentondouglas
    @wdentondouglas ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The interior layers of fiberglass have a negligible effect on strength, as the exterior layers bear most of the load.

    • @Anne6621
      @Anne6621 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      that makes zero logical sense , show me your evidence of this

    • @normanboyes4983
      @normanboyes4983 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Once the inner layers are bonded to the outer layer it is a monolithic structure and the load is applied to and shared by the whole structure. So your hypothesis is fundamentally flawed.