Chinese Mini Excavator - 1 Year On
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I bought a Chinese tractor and got a lot of the same types of comments you did. It’s been 10 years now and my tractor still runs fine and it’s been worked constantly and heavily. I don’t regret buying it at all.
I looked at a chinese tractor at our local farm shop - the sales guy turned his nose up and said "not to bother" and go for this other one..... I walked out. The quality looked fine for me, I am not a full time farmer so a smaller machine (and cheaper) would have worked perfectly 👍🏻
Yes I know they change the name brand like every other day but what brand is it please?
@@JohnSmith-tz4on it was a Luzhong 304. 4x4 for the conditions here
@@d1v1s1onby0 thanks!
@HomesteadingUncontained This is a product to do hard work, the Chinese wouldn't be stupid to use Chinesium for its core parts and used high quality materials and anyway they make very good quality products that we all use on a daily basis, this "Made in China is Crap" trope isn't true today.
You are a good person, don't let the jerks get you down. You and Julie work well together and I'm glad I found your channel.
Thank you so much Richard, really appreciate the support. ♥️
that mini ex is identicle kubota
Okay "richard", aka Ian's mom...
@@michaelmactavish4445 Kubota is very good. Chinese is not good. It sucks.
@@leojunior7589 some there stuff is good
I am an excavator operator, operated for 10 years give or take, I completely agree people should learn on a tiny excavator. Large excavators are very easy to operate, smaller machines are more complicated. I've had oil pipeline diggers interview for jobs, some had 20, 30, 40 years on a large excavator. Couldn't operate my cat 305 to save their life
That's so interesting. I've had a similar experience. When I learned to sail years ago I learnt on a 14' dinghy. It was HARD! At first I was doing a dozen different things and trying to keep them all straight, to keep the boat on the air side of the water and sometimes as an added bonus to actually move forward. Then one day, after much practice, out of the blue, it happened. My body just got it. It all locked into muscle memory and from that point on I was doing only one thing- sailing, instinctually and without thought, just like we walk and run.
Small dinghies are delicate, fickle and very SENSITIVE! Two inches of the tiller in the WRONG direction and you're swimming- especially in high winds. I had never sailed a big boat- like 30' or larger before that but I can now step onto the deck of any big sailboat and just trim everything and sail the damn thing- with confidence. Maybe not perfectly, but 95%. I can go years as a landlubber too and then step onto the deck of any sail boat and sail it. The muscle memory is always there. But people who have learned to sail on big boats cannot sail a dinghy. They go right into the drink. Come to think of it, learning to stick weld is the same. Must be a universal principle there! Humans can be so amazing and so stupid all at the same time!!! Heh.
Dead right Awesome Games, the truth at last.
I am going to have to try to rent a big machine just to see the difference. 😀
Althouh big machines are much more stable and don't require the blade, they're obviously much larger and require much better awareness of where you're swinging and how to use your mirrors. Most small machines don't stick out past their tracks and you can visually see around the whole machine but are more tippy and jittery
every machine is different, it doesnt matter if youre jumping between large and small or different brands. if you were used to jumping between a variety sizes models and brands of equipment you would know size doesnt matter.
and ya the pipeline guys ive crossed paths with are pretty useless
I am in China, we often use such a small excavator to dig kilometers of pits for fiber optics at work, using an excavator is a healing process
I think most people just assume these machines are for export only and they are not used in country...... I am very happy with it and would do it again anytime.
@@HomesteadingUncontained China can be GOOD.
Right on dude!! Cheers from Northern Arizona here... I want one!!!
I made a comment about you not being a real diy guy a while back and I regret having said that. You are in fact a very good diy guy and I have become impressed with your projects and your ability to work things out. My apologies and look forward to more of your antics. Good on you chap.
No worries, we hadn't started the build then but now we are coming to the end of the garage workshop and about to start on the house. Plenty to think about.
You are a good man.
This is BY FAR the most honest product review I’ve seen on TH-cam!
Cheers John 👍🏻
Nothing wrong with Chinese equipment, great stuff. Save money
Exactly my thoughts, cheers 👍
We really need higher import taxes on them.
@@MrXelaim a new Ford truck loaded is 135,000 dollars, the one I use is 24 years old, cost 19,000$ new ,screw your import taxes. Buy Chinese all day long. China rules. Biden lies all day every day.
Buy them used in Canada save the 25--% tariff
I'm 72 years old, I have a small China made excavator same size as yours, it works great for me its here any time I want to use it don't have to use the shovel much anymore I'm very happy with mine.
Exactly Ken, the convenience of having it on hand is the key.
I imported my own mini skid loader from China to here in Australia few years ago. I used freight forwarder from here to ship and deliver to door etc. Once supplier dropped it to departure port I paid from there I think. Although the supplier was supposed to pay a export fee from China and refused so I got charged instead was about $150. All in all process went well and machine is still going strong. I saved around $10000 from buying the same machine locally.
That is the way to go - organise your own shipping. I know for next time for sure.
What size machine did you buy? I am currently looking at 3.5 ton from multiple Chinese companies. One thing I found out by accident really, was that so many of those Chinese companies are actually just re-sellers. They put their decals on a machine that is made by one company for everybody.
@James cardy
@@t.p.9232 Mines a mini skid loader and yes multiple factories make the same or very similar product with different branding. They do vary slightly from each factory. I believe from what I've read is their government runs the factories.
nah, there is no such thing thing as export fees, only import fees.
Thank God, in the US here, there are some importers already selling such kind of equipment for under $5000 with no shipping cost for buyers
China now sells all kinds of small machines for home improvement and gardening, ranching at affordable prices.
You got all sorts of toys for men. I envy you.
Yes, very jealous of your low prices on everything - our lumber is about 5 times that of yours and then the heavy equipment...aaargh. But it is well worth the investment when building on your own. 👍🏻
@@HomesteadingUncontainedI’m sorry the liberals have ruined Europe and made everything so expensive. I don’t know how middle class people can even afford to live, let alone own a home, tractor, or mini excavator.
This can be perfect for pools. Plumbing and electrical lines
And footings 😀
For the first time running a mini I thought you did just fine. No one can magically run a machine just out of the gate. I run a 3 ton Bobcat on an infrequent basis at work. Small machines have their place for projects. Good to see you think things thru before doing them.
Cheers Will 👍🏻
Don’t let the haters get to you! You are living your best life and you get to play with a mini excavator whenever you want!
Cheers Mike, much appreciated
I watched your original video. I was genuinely curious. I have run heavy equipment for 25 years and I currently have a full size excavator and full size backhoe and a couple of tractors. I personally think you have done a good job on picking a machine for your use and good to see you comfortable with it. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much, much appreciated 💙
Beautiful comment!
I bought one too, not the pro model, just the e10. It works pretty good. I had to go over and check alt the bolts and put on some extra hose protection. There was also a small hydraulic leak and some scratches in the paint, all minor stuff. I've been enjoying this machine and done a lot of heavy digging with it.
I have stripped it to the chassis since having it and it went back together perfectly, so every lighted up and the construction is what I would expect to see on any machine. So I am happy with it. 👍🏻
Hi, I am interested in ordering an excavator but having difficulty finding information on costs importing to the US. Do you have any recommended links? Thanks!
I buy most of our plasma and welding supplies from China starting in 2006 they have always treated us great. Plasma torch parts (expendebles) last twice as long for 1/3 the cost. I was spending 400/mo for junk made in the USA that lasted hrs compared to days when I use parts from China. The Chinese were also very knowledgeable, and fixed my jerry rigged problems fast.
Haha, love your comment.... cheers Mark 👍🏻
the "made in usa" is made in china too...
Do you have steady suppliers you've had good experiences with? Or are you using an Alibaba type site?
Great stuff and I have the same experience with importing a Chinese Jinma tractor back in 2005. Friends and family were not impressed and especially the “where’d you think to get spare parts” questions is so recognizable. 17 years later and only minor things like some oil leaks I can say this was one of the Best Buy’s I ever did. It’s not for professional or very heavy use but it’s a brave little tractor that has done so many jobs that I can’t imagine doing without anymore.
It's all about expectation and the convenience of owning the machine - you tend to look after them more and it will do 10 times the work you can do so it has to be better. 😀
It’s amazing how many experts are out there in TH-cam land that have NEVER operated anything bigger than their TV remote! This thing looks like a fun little machine for around the property work!
Cheers Joe, it is working great for me 👍🏻
Describes me perfectly! Where’s my remote?
You’re quite right. Hiring an excavator is expensive but they can do an incredible amount of work in an hour. I agree 100% with all your decisions. Life is all about expectations and as you said, you need to manage them. Well done Ian!
500 for an hour to do what he did was actually really cheap. A lot of people or business' would charge upwards of a thousand for just that small job.
He did a job after for my son to dig out his septic tank, €200 for 30 mins.... but transporting and travel etc all adds up so we are pleased we found this guy.
Given the right job. Borrowed a 2.5t for a month.
After a jerry can of diesel, i gave up...
Got the bamboo out with a carjack, blocks, and a steel blade on the brushcutter.
Did it again a few months later, had to repair the sump (someone ran over a stake?) so got to borrow it for a few weeks again.
Got a stump grinder now.
The right tool for the job!
Yeah, $500 is a steal, I won't move my machines for less than $1000...
@@smclynden Yep, moving heavy machinery is expensive. For 1 small job it may well not be feasible. In that case you may have to work out a way to aggregate several small jobs in the area. Otherwise it may get to the stage where your small machine (and a LOT of time and improvisation) might be the only choice. I once took three parts of a day to dig out a large tree with a toy blade on a very small FIAT ag dozer. The exhaust was the only thing sticking out of the hole by the time I could topple it. Filling the hole in was a piece of cake after that. With a large boulder field though it was easier just to cover them as a feature. In my younger days you would just have purchased a case of gelignite and blown the lot out in no time but those days are long gone! 😉
Love this follow up. Seeing your confidence and skill level grow on that machine in each video has been great.
Thanks Harry, means a lot 👍🏻
When you look at what you've achieved so far with the building, it's amazing to think it was done by just the two of you and not a team of builders . . . . :)
Hi Mike, we keep stopping and thinking the same....we do love it though 👍🏻
You eat an elephant one bite at a time. You stick with it and you can do anything. It just may take a while.
So good of you Ian to share your experiences of this great bit of kit, I’m sure a lot people will find it very informative and some may be regretting their previous negative comments. Good luck to you both 👍😃
Thanks Simon - it has helped us a lot and is still doing so - I just dug another drainage ditching in 10 mins which would have taken hours with a shovel (well Julie hours with a shovel 🤣)
@@HomesteadingUncontained Yep, luckily Eastern machinery has been rising in quality as that of the average Western woman's value as a draughthorse has been declining! 😜😁
Excellent 1 year review! I did similar to you buying a Chinese towable backhoe strictly for installing utilities and excavating for a house on a level town lot. Did some mods to it greatly improving its digging capability and sold it when I finished the house, win win. Good luck to you with your projects.
Cheers - if you know what you need it for then it works perfectly - we now know what we can and cannot do and are really happy with it 👍🏻
Well done keith - people knock stuff without knowing it. I have one for domestic use and for what they cost it's worth having it. They are basically made of steel oil and diesel and I can fix anything that breaks (nothing broken in 100 hours) I fitted a lifting hook and thumb and its very handy and easier than pulling and dragging stuff alone. I like your balanced views
Thanks, much appreciated. Hope to get up to above 100 hours by the time I start on the house.
Thanks for these videos, I've literally just placed my order with the same factory you bought from.
I added the extended tracks as you mentioned (hydraulic telescope), the cooler and a hydraulic thumb as you mentioned too.
I got the 1,2 instead of 1 ton
That is great, I hope it all works out. Who did you deal with from the supplier.
Every machine has their limits. Seat time is what improves your speed and accuracy.
Go to a dealer and sit in the seat first.
It is coming, 1st time this week I felt comfortable and smooth. So it is coming.
People tend to be really good at telling others what they are doing wrong without being able to specifically explain why their way is actually an improvement. Glad you were able to brush most of those back-seat-drivers off. Thanks for the 1 year review--I've been pondering whether these diggers (and similar equipment) were even worth the trouble. My rule on Chinese equipment has always been to plan on doing some maintenance and repair the day it arrives (it usually needs it), and you can eventually re-make it into what you wanted to begin with.
sort of like buying from harbor freight
Yes, we have checked and double checks along the way. It is mine so you have to look after it.
Mine has always been to try to avoid Chinese products at all costs, as I don't like to support communism, our enemies, or companies and entire countries who could care less about trademarks, copyrights, or patents. Buy American whenever possible, get a warranty from a known company with tech support, support our own countries and workers, get the product I actually want straight out the box and not have to do repairs to make a brand new product function acceptably. To each their own though.
that mini ex has kubota diesel
The trick is knowing which category a product belongs to. There is "cheap crap to sell to stupid westerners", there's "we make this for western companies, so why not run the machines overtime and slap our logo on it" (with the variants "but use cheaper materials", "let's sell the rejects" and the well-loved "but design our own variant that only pretends to work" like those neat little 100 kWh powerbanks and 10 Exobyte thumb drives), there's "this was made for the locals, want one, too?", and there's even "original product for a worldwide market".
Obviously, categories 1 and 2.3 are not what you want to buy, but they also are the best-known ones. This machine clearly belongs to the third category, so it will be built to a standard and quality level that Chinese customers will accept. Those levels are lower than what we are used to, but they are there---Chinese customers wouldn't buy these machines if they weren't working at all.
This is a really informative video. You did a nice job of laying out the pros and cons of the machine which is pretty generous of you to take the time to do so. Thanks.
No problem, enjoy doing it 👍🏻
Great review, you showed that your mini 1-ton excavator is a compact and versatile piece of equipment that is ideal for smaller construction projects, diy and landscaping jobs. Keep up the good work. Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪.
Cheers Aidan, much appreciated 👍🏻
Thanks for the update on your journey with that machine. You made it so real and with no sugar coating. All the best with your new projects.
Cheers Gene, much appreciated 👍🏻
Thanks for the good & honest review of a machine that's designed & priced for small diy work.
Cheers. 👍
Thank you! My dream since a child is to have my own excavator! I knew I couldn't buy a big one, but I recently started looking for videos about excavators and found yours.
Thanks for such a great video, and an honest video too!
No problem - I am still very happy with the machine and the company I bought it from.
Got a slightly larger machine a year ago. It was fun getting to Canada. Put a fair amount of hours on it. Definitely a learning curve when you get started with it. Once you're comfortable with the machine and you know its limitations there is so much you can do with it.
It is all about getting used to it - I am 80% there now I think...... but then I have a gap in using it and have to to learn again 🤪
Curious what you bought, and how much you paid "landed" here to Canada. Also if it's doing well and holding up.
@@berettaboi got a little over a ton machine. Briggs and strat engine. Got the cab. Bunch of attachments. Most of the attachments haven’t used yet. Eventually I will. Got about a little over 100 hours on it. Holding up pretty good. Only issue is the one track side the tension rod is seized. Need to take it apart more to fix but haven’t taken the time to do that yet. It is what it is. It’s not a fancy 100k machine so it has its limitations. Do a lot of trenching for drainage and running underground power lines. Landed when freight prices were higher at 9k cdn approx with fees and taxes. Highly recommend spending the extra like I did and get the cab.
Ritchie Bros auctions always has a bunch of these at their consignment sales. They sell for around d $5000 CAD and then you don't have to worry about shipping and importing
@@HogBoss850 good call if there is indeed a couple there. There's always some on FB marketplace and other resale sites, but they are reselling at a higher cost than you can order it for...
Great vid! Thanks for sharing and answering the questions instead of blowing them off - even the unpleasant ones. It’s one of those things they we all wonder about in terms of how are the Chinese products really are especially if used for residential vs commercial.
Cheers , much appreciated.
Thank you for putting the time and detail into this. It was very helpful.
No problem, just fixed wiring issue but it i still going strong on our recent footings dig.
Great review. Honest, real, and not sponsored by the manufacturer. (It wasn't, was it? 😀) You point out the limitations, the strengths and weaknesses, and add that there may be a better way to obtain a machine locally. The final Yes, really says it all. Thank you.
No sponsor although in hindsight.....damn 🤪
Fair play to you Ian, it’s not easy learning on a smaller machine kudos to you my friend
haha, for me it is normal......but when I see the big guys lounging in their arm chairs shifting tonnes of material, I do think, they are not looking scared 🤣
This could not have come up on my feed at a more appropriate time as I am considering buying something similar.
Thank you for putting this video up and I will check out some of your other video’s.
Hope you enjoying your experience!
Thank you so much, glad it has helped. 👍🏻
Thanks great video!
Thanks for the update video. I came for the unboxing and still enjoy the videos. I have bought a lot from China in the past, and never had issues with parts of hidden "features" or similar. If you pay attention when looking you will spot what to avoid. Where I live you have to add 100% to the total price for taxes, etc.. So it would have been around €15500 for me..
Pfff, that is expensive Tax.... I thought 20% was tough.
nice informative video ...spent my whole working life operating 360 diggers and my advise to people was always turn the revs down a fraction on these mini diggers it doesnt need to be on full revs all the time or they become jerky and unstable 👍
I agree but so many say the opposite. I turn it down until it runs nicely then leave it there. Until I need to run the tracks and then it is full throttle........3km/hr.🐌
Great advise, nice videos. People who comments are often not the brightest. Had an old backhoe about 8,2 tonnes - way to big for an amateur. This seems reasonable for a DIY guy.
Parts for Chinese machinery are dirt cheap and easily available.
Thanks for that - yes, I have now started to ignore and delete the idiots. I just bought new tracks for another machine from China - bought from France, took a day to get here and had the same part number. That works for me 😀
I'm glad to see a person enjoying his experience, thank you
👍🏻
Bought 2 and THERE IS NO REGRET! Great machine for the farm
Great news - they are very useful for sure.
Thanks for the informative follow up... have a great life in France, be happy.... I’m in West Africa, getting loads of different Chinese made products, some good, some great... and some crap... life’s a roller coaster
Exactly, if you never try you never know - I am pretty happy with it.
Hi Ian, nice video. Your information is good!
I had the same experience with Nuoman that you have.
Nice and friendly people,and very helpful.
The machine is very good and I’m glad with it.
And yes you can not use him like a 6tons machine.
But I dig out big olive stoves with it and💪
Thanks for your update, I let you know what my experience are in the next months.
Cheers Ronald 👍🏻
Outstanding description and presentation. Thanks for shring your great experience with us!
Cheers Peter, much appreciated
Thank you for your honesty and summary. It's unfortunate that a lot of people forgot, or never learned, how to be civil in their comments. But that shows their true character. I tend to skip reading these comments as having little or nothing to add to the conversation at hand.
Thanks Doug, I do try to ignore them but it can be difficult
This reminded me of a neighbor who used a mini excavator to clear and level some coastal property nearby. It was only 2 small lots and it took him 3 summers to do the job. Would have taken 2 days with an appropriately sized skid steer.
Glad to see that Chinese excavator is kicking butt for you on the small jobs where a 1 ton machine shines. Way cheaper.
I am searching all the time for a small Skid Steer - all the cheap ones here are SCAMs and I have started reporting them. But if I could find a real one, I would take it in a second for sure 👍🏻
Looks like it's working out well. I bought a Wacher-Neuson version of tiny excavator a few years ago and the tiny size comes in so handy - more than I thought it would. Mine is a diesel and the tracks expand out, but it's still tiny and probably functions pretty close to that one. One thing I learned is that excavators can move a lot more dirt per weight of machine than a lot of others. Even these tiny ones can do a significant amount of work. But the MAIN thing is... I'm older now so I fire this little thing up to do a ton of things that when I was younger would just do by hand. Not only is it much faster than by-hand for small jobs, but the injury savings on my back and joints is priceless.
Exactly - we would used to dig everything by hand 25 years ago...but now it would kill me. I started finishing up with a shovel and thought why, just get back on the digger and finish up....so much easier and allows for more projects that you would just dismiss if done by hand.
Very nicely, honestly and accurately presented!
Cheers Mike, much appreciated.
Thank you for your honest appraisal. I think you and Julie are a lot more like most of us. Most of us have no need for...nor care to afford spending as much money as many branded mini-excavators would cost. That doesn't mean we wouldn't love to have one. I think you two are brilliant.
That was one of the big reasons for buying it - we could just about afford this one but a known brand was way out of our budget - exactly right. Thanks Steve.
@@HomesteadingUncontained Like you said in the video your usage is very light. Why spend mega bucks on a name brand for it to spend the majority of its life resting in the garage?
Yeah jcb micro .8 ton, 15-20k my chinavator (08) 5k
Great video Ian. You were the reason I bought mine of course. 20 hours in I had to have the exhaust out and rewelded, seems an engine mount broke and the stress was too much for the rather brittle exhaust metal. She's a bit harder to start these days and I suspect the metal filings are indicative of a starter motor trying to eat itself. However, I couldn't have done the work at home without it. Yeah, it was worth it. Thank you and Julie 👍
That is a pain but if you can keep up the repairs it is always in the shed for the next dig...😉
Such a good video! Literally answered all of my questions, and some I didn't even think of! More confident to shop for one now. Thank you!
Much appreciated, I have no affiliation to the company, just bought from them so if anything does go wrong I will update for sure 👍
Great job! You guys have a lot to be proud of.
Cheers Nicholas, much appreciated for sure 😀
Julie & Ian, it is utterly inspiring watching your adventures in France. I’m an Englishman in Australia doing my own self build and it is such a pleasure watching your adventures. You are doing a Sterling job and the videos are great and put a big smile on my face while learning from your generous sharing. Keep up the great work. I’m about to purchase a mini excavator with a lot more confidence thanks to your educational efforts. All the very best to you both on your journey. 🙏👍🏻🏆
Thank you so much Antony - I hope it goes OK for the mini excavator. There seems to be a lot of importers in Australia so you may get one locally.
@@HomesteadingUncontained Yep, a lot importers as you rightly point out, but sadly they charge the Earth, hence your great idea of importing from the OEM. 🙂👍🏻
I mean I didn't think it was gonna hold up real great either but I wasn't an ass about it 😂😂 I just waited for the 1 year review video and here we are. Thank you for buying this and putting your experience with it on TH-cam. This is the first real English in-depth review on these things and that's super valuable for everyone.
I think how this works out depends largely on who's involved. Some folks get stuff to work for them and some are just menaces. I see those menaces in the comments here. It's junk! Yeah after you're done with it I'm sure it is.
No worries Alec, it is proving better than expected for sure.
Very useful account of how the machine has done. I'd say ignore what Les Dawson used to call 'the knockers', but in fact your response to some of these criticisms has been very useful. Bravo for giving it a go, you've clearly made it work.
We try, thanks for your positive comment 👍
Thank you for taking the time and covering a lot of questions we’ll explained 👍🏼👍🏼
No problem - if it breaks down I will make sure everyone knows but so far it is doing really well.
Great set of advise, expecting mine in two months😊
Great news Holly, I hope it all works out for you, just be patient 👍🏻
Hi, I also have one and used for 250 hours, only issue I had was it sucked air around the diecel filter, otherwise it's a strong little machin.
I have a suggestion for you,,,try to move the seat all the way to the front so you hav the digging handles between your legs, that way you can rest your arms on your legs and the handling/digging is more precise.
Keep up the good work/fan from Sweden.
I am going to check out the seat, I am not sure I have much adjustment, maybe drill out and reposition.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Especially the shipping information. Cheers!
No problem, cheers 👍🏻
Thanks you for all the detail - and for putting up with all the abrasive comments!
Cheers Bill 👍🏻
Interesting. I don’t generally have a lot of confidence to buy that expensive of an item from China without a local support group. Glad it worked out for you.
I was the same, I chatted to quite a few people who had already done it - plus researched the Alibaba payment system which was secure and reliable....
I've seen a LOT of hit and miss on these video's. Definitely a do your homework moment.
China is like anywhere else when it comes to international trade, there will be people who will try to scam you, especially if you have no middle man to give you some insurances.
在中国这样的机器很多，800~20000人民币之间。
@@user-xe1gd7yt8z Exactly, they are not just made for export. 👍🏻
Don’t listen to the jerks! I have a small loader, your right we need to know the limitations of our equipment. My small loader is so handy to have and to do my projects, knowing it’s limitation preserves the machine. Your a good guy, Thanks for your program!
Cheers Jeff. Until you have experienced these machines then they shouldn't pass judgement - they do what they were intended to and I was looking at the loaders and mini skid steers......they look pretty useful.
@@HomesteadingUncontained I have a little skidsteer and it is so handy, it’s not a giant dozer, but I don’t need a dozer! I am quite intrigued by these small escalators , I think it would compliment my little skidsteer!
Thanks for the info, definitely a help to see the full story on the unit, and keep up the good job. Cheers
Cheers Matthew, much appreciated.
Hi Ian and Julie, I want to counter at least one negative comment by saying I loved the series and you two seem like lovely people, I hope everything is and continues to go well for you both in the future, Love from Canada
Thank you so much, means a lot 💙
Well done on a great 1 year on video on the mini excavator. Well thought out and your right, these are for the DIY guys and the guys doing smaller projects around their property. Or even larger projects if time isn't a concern. Only thing I could complain about my mini excavator is it's rather slow travel speed, takes a bit to get around a 6 acre property. Investing in equipment will pay off year after year, as you end up having jobs pop up that you didn't foresee, and you think, no worries, I have the equipment to get that done.
Yeah 6 acres is big for this little machine. I am ok o my build site. I think I would trailer it with the tractor around the land.
@@HomesteadingUncontained it would be much quicker to load it on a trailer, take it to the other end of the property and unload it, instead of driving it...
I bought a similar minidigger with those same 3 buckets in The Netherlands for 4500 euro. The seller already did all of the importing, so no added vat or freight charges etc... Great little things with that koop 192 diesel engine ;)
Yes, that is a good price - the importers here in France have them at around €9k. 👍🏻
I think the bulk of these smaller/cheaper machines are still made by XCMG. I'm pretty sure they're among the top 5 machinery manufacturers globally, so can't be too bad.
If used for their intended purpose like you said and maintained, should get years of faithful service out of 'em.
Thanks for these videos, great to watch
Cheers Roy - all the machines I see look near identical and as you say probably use the same parts throughout with just small design changes and a different label. 👍🏻
I totally agree about the wider or extending track option. I bought a 1.6 ton machine just before you and wider track wasn't available until a few months after I got mine home.
great machine for a hobby farm or landscaping, but stability on uneven ground is its greatest weakness.
It all comes with experience, and I didn't have any when I bought it - now I woudl have ticked that option straight away.
Great video as usual.
Your mini digger is a great machine for your needs. Very capable for the majority of homestead tasks. Once maintained & used sensibly, it should last years as the build quality looks good from previous videos.
Cheers Robby, exactly, it is very cost effective.
Great video. Thanks for sharing. I'm looking into one of the electric mini excavators for small works around the yard.
I was looking into the electric but was unsure on the usage time, specially as I have no grid power at site it would have been difficult to charge up.
Ian, you and Julie do it all right! Don't let this backseat driver and worryguts unsettle you.
I love your channel and I can hardly wait until a new video comes. And I have learned every time something, even from your failures 😁
Thank you Lutz, some comments you cannot believe and reply want to reply but it is just not worth it....👍🏻
Happy to see that your machine worked out for you. My NM-E08 didn't fare as well and is in rough shape after not a lot of use. I have a review of it on my channel if you want to compare it to your machine (I don't think I can link to it as TH-cam might think it's spam).
I have watched your review of the E08. I also own the e10, it seems to me that the e08 is a cheaper machine, it cost less, but it's also has less quality in the build.
That is a shame - I will check out the review, but do tell them specially now their company is under a lot of spotlights at the moment with these videos.
@@OlesMusic Happy to hear that your machine is of higher quality. Yes, my NM-08 machine was the cheapest I could find so it stands to reason that it isn't as good.
Thanks for the great information. I really appreciate your work in doing these videos. Keep them coming
Thank Brian ♥️
I just hope that people listen closely to you and learn.
There's a lot of good advice in this video!!!
Thank you so much Frederick.
Sir, you are awesome!!! Keep doing what is right for you. I have a landscape/hardscape business and I was bombarded by "experts" on how I'm supposed to run my business and what equipment I'm supposed to have. 8 years on and I'm still using a 40 year old tractor and all those experts are now hiring me because I can do the jobs faster and cheaper. I appreciate all your advice.
Just sock away $30 per hour in a "fund" dedicated to finding and buying another tractor to be the immediately available replacement for this one in anticipation of a serious breakdown occuring.
You need your tractor every day....
@@JohnSmith-yv6eq That's not a silly idea. But luckily tractors (provided they are used within their capabilities and properly serviced) are way more long-lived that the average family car. I have a toy FIAT dozer made in 1962 (and a spare in the shed for parts if ever needed) plus a couple of 50 to 60 year old Massey Ferguson tractors as well. All ready to go if their owner can crawl up on them still. 😉
Cheers Royce, really appreciate it. Only listen to your self and it will work (hopefully)
Good on you mate, don’t let the haters put you off! Sure a known brand would have been better in a lot of ways but for the very limited amount of work you do on it I’d think the cost would outweigh the benefits
Also have you thought of getting a grab bucket instead of a thumb?
Looking back a grab bucket would have been nice, I have the hydraulic point for it. But, again, the cheapest option at the moment was the thumb.
TBH, those kabotas are way more than most people need. This looks about perfect for someone who wants to fart around in their yard and garden.
Honestly, thinking on it for a moment. Everything that I would do around the farm that couldn't be done with one of these was too big a job for the Kabota and I would defer to the antique Ford Backhoe.
Thought of a backhoe but it would not be suitable for my site - plus it was a similar price to this. But it works for the jobs I am doing (build my house)
Thanks for your time and energy. Very helpful information.
No problem - thaks for your support 👍🏻
Question: How did you and Julie become so awesome people? I saw the unboxing by chance when you first got it, then I wondered forever what became of you and the machine and all that. I'm glad I came across the update. Cheers to you and hope for well-being in the future.
Thanks Eric, it mainly me (Julie) - I an is just here for the ride 🤣 I suppose we don't like getting others to do our work so we just get on with it...is tiring though. 💗
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I have a 1.2 ton mini excavator from China and love it. Easy to operate and easy to repair if needed. It is a time saver, back saver and a bit of fun to run. Most don't know Bobcat is owned by the Korean company Doosan. I went through the same search for a machine like you did. The used pricing was crazy and still is.
South Korean is not China, South Korean stuff is quality stuff
Cheers Jon, totally agree.
But I bet a lot of the parts are sourced from china.
@@HomesteadingUncontained you mean from Japan
@@apb2081 man you from the 80s? cus thats when a lot from Japan. future is now old man
Good and fun. Love mine. Get all the attachments.
I should have done at the time, but budget was tight then. Glad I got the auger though, so much fencing to do.
I love your videos, and they are a great machine for the pricing, I personally own the 1.5 tonne version and owned for around 750+ operating hours. The power is incredible and as you stated hoses etc easy to find local, I think the haters are just disappointed they paid alot more for brand name machines👍, I did the same and built my own thumb out of the hard pinned wood/boulder grapple that came with it
Yes, the thumb is the next project to move some of those rocks around. The hours will increase significantly when we start on the house.
For the past twenty years, I have had a 1987 New Holland 30 horsepower diesel skid steer with Foundry bucket, Forks, and excavator attachments. I put on about 500 hours of operation on it and it has been a joy to work with throughout all of that time. Although a thumb might be useful on occasion as well as a hole auger and concrete Buster, I find that the forklifts are more than adequate for moving logs, branches, and digging up and moving rocks, saplings and invasive Vines like Ivy and blackberries. On 2 occasions I have had to rent a much bigger model but that was only when I had to get something major done really quickly. The skid steer performed wonderfully for many small and medium-sized jobs that would not have made sense for renting a unit. With the forklifts we have turned it into an 8 ft High adjustable working platform by adding a heavy-duty pallet to the forks or a 4ft by 4ft by 4ft lightweight metal cage that was meant to contain a plastic storage tank.
I bought this when I was 55 and it certainly extended my ability to be involved in home construction/ renovation projects, and I don't plan on giving it up anytime soon.
I think because of my low hours that maintenance has been minimal, including half-a-dozen flat tires, a water pump, some batteries, and two hydraulic hoses.
A utility trailer is a highly suggested purchase that will easily pay for itself over time.
The machine is probably good value for the scope of work it's being used for. Originally, I purchased an ex Japanese 3 ton Mitsubishi, which was 32 years old, in Thailand. After adding 1000 hours to its original 2500, I sold it for what it cost in the first place and bought a new Kubota 3 ton with a cab and air conditioning, as It's no fun in the sun at 44°C. The new Kubota was expensive at $ 50 000 US for non-commercial use, but when I finally complete my farm improvement projects, I'll probably sell, equipment hold their value if not abuused, unlike other vehicles.
With that single cylinder air-cooled diesel, be sure to clean the injector nozzle with a brass brush every 100 hours or so to remove carbon buildup to keep it running smoothly, my generator uses the same engine and it helps dramatically.
Thanks for the advice, I will do that at the end of the season. Thanks
a tiny hho cell would keep the combustion chamber squeeky clean and give a little more running time per tank, ive pulled down old engines that had a hho cell on them, it amazes me how clean the piston, head and valves are youd swear the engine had never been used.
@@closertothetruth9209 lol, no free lunch. You'd get less energy per tank.
@@ctrlaltdebug well weve used hho since 1978 wouldnt still be using it if we didnt get better fuel economy, ive always got atleast 20% better economy currently i get 30% in a 4 litre bf ute , as you know hho is a powder keg its "nothing" like the burn of "pure" hydrogen, it takes stuff all of that gas to facilititate a more complete burn of fuel and air before the exhaust valve opens, as you know alot of unburnt fuel leaves the combustion chamber , with a Decent hho cell you definitely get more power and economy, i laugh everytime someone rattles on about the law of thermodynamics yet completely ignoring the fact much of the exhaust leaving the combustion chamber has significant unburnt fuel i dont care what anyone says i know it works, my cells typically produce 2 litres per minute yeh theres aditional load on the engine via the alternator however the 4 stroke engine owing to its design has poor effeciency the small amount of hho per combustion really helps, and not all cells are the same, carbon cells, stainless plate cells in a magnetic field etc go nuts making gas , cells with no neutral plates go nuts making gas, you need a heat exchanger or heat sink to keep it cool though, however believe what you want, i wouldnt waste my time building cells and giving them to family members if they didnt work, however sometimes you need a device to trick the computer from pouring more fuel into the engine due to the O2 sensors reaction to burnt hho.
in my ute i went from 11.5 litres for 100kms to 8.3 litres to 100km heavily laten with endless mechsnical tools. check out gavin knox hho his cells make real gas check his credentials what his qualifications are , a guy like that is not into scamming people his cells are helping people, expensive though theyre patented. people these days all they do is find fault and never get to see how good some things can be "IF" done properly. there are too many scam artists out there with pathetic hho cells and very poorly installed . i dont sell my cells theyre gifts , as my brother has learnt his 80 series now gets 25% better economy , has better power towing and going up hills at first you think its all bs until you drive for a long while you realise your getting more kms to the tank . you can build your own , using stainless sheet metal, cut into squares , having a positve and negative plate either side of 4 or 5 neutral plates all with a 2mm space between , you can do that a few times in a row kinda like a lead acid battery divided into 6 segments, stainless threaded rod, epdm rubber sheet,etc its very easy but damned hard to drill LOL. it does work , believe it or not it doesnt change the fact they can work done right. gavin knoxx cells give you 40% better economy on cars but his cells make huge gas for the watts he stumbled upon a very good design, a very efficient design, primemovers 25% by memory. if you check some parts of the world hho cells are mandatory on heavy agricultural machinery, why would they do that if it doesnt work.
even seen stanley meyer or the documentary gashole. they buried alot of good tech and buried people.
better add one thing if you ever do play around witth hho use EXTREME caution its seriously explosive and burns faster than anything, you need bubblers and genuine tested and proven hho flashback arrestors such as the hho gas technology flash back arrestors, actaleyene arrestors DO NOT work.
Awesome 1 year look-back mate. If this doesn't help people who are at the crossroads of deciding then nothing will. Most of us who have bought chinavators over the past few years are very happy with them but we also become aware of their downfalls and limitations and we work around them. As for the haters, they are just onlookers and it's really only the people who have owned or used these machines that can have the capacity to provide valuable input, the rest can only offer opinions based on prejudgment and thin air.
Exactly right Dave 👍🏻
I think it's ridiculous to label people who critique Chinese excavators as haters...... also ridiculous to say unless you have owned one you have no basis to have an opinion.
Following your logic no one should have an opinion about anything they are not familiar with first hand........ an armchair sports fan can often have a much deeper understanding of a sport than a professional sports man .......
I would never buy one of those Chinese mini diggers..... I've watched enough videos about them to make an informed opinion .....
@@deosiewilson732 I did not say you had no basis to have an opinion, I tried to put across the point that only those with experience may offer "valuable input" over and above what has already been said in the reviews. Of course one may have an opinion without owning one though I fail to see how watching youtube videos would give one a "deeper understanding" than those who actually use these machines in real life, I think that's a ludicrous assertion that fails on many levels but also fails to take into account the many and varied factors involved when people buy cheap machines which is the entire context in which this video exists - the opinions of the owner "1 year on" OF USE, not of watching it on a video. All that aside, I did not label all who make critiques as haters, there are those who see problems with Chinavators who do not act as haters and those who do, there is a nuanced distinction that perhaps you did not appreciate. Most of the "haters" who have spat venom and bile on this thread have not attempted to make reasoned analyses but merely make commentary based on anti China prejudice or some misguided notion that everyone can choose between buying a cheap Chinavator or an expensive name brand where, in fact, for many people it's buy a cheap Chinavator or buy no digger at all. The only real point for or against one on post-purchase-review then becomes one of does/did it do the job you purchased it to do.........
You're awesome. Keep up the good work. I just retired and am impressed with your work
Cheers Jim, I am trying to hold the flag up for us oldies....... slowly..👴🏻
I really appreciate this video. I have worked in construction for 30 years, now I am the big boss. You did great!
Cheers Simon, really appreciate it. 👍🏻
Im happy to see you a year later & much improved operator . Those that mock you , don’t know what they are doing either. Everyone has to learn how to do equipment. There will always be naysayers or idiots, please ignore them with a smile. Keep up the good work
Cheers Derek. Just makes me admire the pro operators even more when they effortlessly move these machines around. I will get there one day 😀
The mini digger is what started me watching your channel, and I have been loyally following since. I think you are doing a great thing and I applaud your work. Cheers.
thank you so much Richard, really appreciate it ♥️
I remember watching your video of the unboxing. It's awesome you and the machine are still going strong. Don't let the bad talkers get you down. Sometimes people have nothing better to do but complain about other people. Keep up the good work 😊
Cheers Troy. Much appreciated 👍
Very good videos. Great to see the update on the mini.I have a few hitachi excavators but I’m looking for one of these for small projects.cheep.I just might go for one after this. Cheers 👍
There are lots of options but I am happy with mine 👍
So, for $7500, you never have to rent something like this and have the freedom to use it at any moment's whim. I'd say this is an excellent value for the homeowner.
It is about a months rent here in France, so I now have it for the next few years while I build my house.....slowly 😀
I've got the same unit but orange 😁😎 They sell steel tracks for these machines, they add a bit of weight down low and are very tough 👍 Highly recommend! Keep up the great work, much love from Pennsylvania 🇺🇲
Cheers Steven, I will look into them but it might damage my new garage floor 🤣
Thank you for the updates and insights! Wishing you all the best as your projects and new home move forward.
Thanks David 👍🏻
Thanks for your invested time to follow up the life of this machine. It is also great that you had bravery to buy something new and to go through all bureaucratic and mistrust debris! I am inspired for my next diy “revolutionary” projects (thanks that my wife do not read it).
Cheers Andy - it was a worrying time waiting for it, specially when it was delayed and the time period ran out and Alibaba released the payment. But I have bought direct from them since 👍🏻
Hi Ian, very informative and helpful video. One question I'd like to ask - and please excuse my lack of experience with this equipment - but would it have been possible to buy attachments for your tractor that would have performed the same tasks as the Chinese digger? Just to add, I really enjoy your and Julie's videos. The hard work and attention to detail is enjoyable to watch :)
I did go though all of this in my thinking and the cost of the backhoe was around €4500 and then I would only have one machine, where I can use the tractor to get the dirt away (Julian drive one) Plus storage, the digger tucks away quite nicely in the corner, the backhoe is quite a lanky bit of kit.
@@HomesteadingUncontained Ah understood. That makes sense.
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Very good video Ian, every time you dig something with that little Chinese digger just think how much you are saving your back and having it there on site will be great because sometimes you only want to do a small job so you go and get it out of the shed. You can't rush out and hire a machine for the little jobs. The very best thing I did at my place was buy my own little Chinese digger. Good logic getting a big machine in to do bigger jobs and once you get a thumb you'll find a lot of uses for it. You put a lot of thought into everything you do, so thank you for the way you inspire the rest of us. Cheers. 👍👍👍
Thanks - totally agree, I will be getting the big guy back to do the levelling for the ouse and then I will take over for the footings and drainage. 👍🏻
No idea how this ended up in my feed but I enjoyed it. Unbelievable how many views you've said the unboxing video has. You sound like a very sensible and logical person and your videos are clearly helping a lot of people 😀 at one point I thought you said "the FUN attachment" and got quite excited to know what on earth that could be, but then realized it was "thumb attachment" 😆
hahah, yes the Fun attachement would be better. Cheers for watching 😀
@@HomesteadingUncontained one for the bedroom maybe 😆 Keep up the good work and good luck with your projects!