What are the NEW RoR Pack 1 unit roles?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 มิ.ย. 2024
- Regiment of Renown pack 1 just dropped giving us new melee infantry. What are their roles on the battlefield and where do they fit in on the unit roster of each faction?
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I love the look of the Powder Guts! I really wish the Man Eaters design would change depending on what faction recruits them
Yes I want my Ogres in Imperial garb when I recruit them. Something similar to the Ogre in Mordheim.
@@eomat i mean those certainly have imperial garb...
I could literally not agree more. At least they put some Empire caps on top of their heads. The bare minimum is a little estetic change, not just a recolor of the same model.
Would love to see Ogre RoR be each built around some faction.
Example:
The Savage Bunch- Ogre Bulls 2H (Firebelly skin whitout the mask)
Description:
"Ogre Maneaters fighting alongside Savage Greenskins don't know if chargeing smeared in Warpaint and shouting Wagh! helps their chances of winning, but then again, it seems to work just fine for the Orcs."
Frenzy , Warpaint
(Immunity to Badlands Attrition)
All models and skins would be in game. Since they are taking their time with RoR, they could at least do a little somethig.
OvN lost factions adds Imperial ogres for empire and halflings, can't wait to see them in IE.
@@fedyx1544 there's also a mod that varies the models in a Maneaster unit so there's dwarf, lizardmen, chaos etc themed Maneaters. Great mod
Don’t forget the fire attacks on the hearth blades also slows ALL healing effects as well
So would be good against fleshy abundance
And regrowth
So it's essentially anti -nurgle special task force.
anti nurgle and vampires
Healing reduction was mentioned.
Also stuff like Gorefeast and healing potions and various Campaign things like krakenslayer etc
I wonder if that Slaanesh RoR could be used a flyer counter for Slaanesh (something the faction seems to lack currently), since IIRC if flyer gets rampage it's essentially locked to the ground those units tend to be balanced around being able to escape to the sky if things get bad for them.
Good point. Ranged flyers are still going to be a nuisance though. Slaanesh can do sweet FA against sky junks for example
Something else to note is that the Hearthblades give their vigour buff in an AoE around them, so another buff ability for Kislev frontlines.
The super-Daemonettes are going to be extremely powerful when used carefully. Even just Perfect Vigor on a Devastating Flanker unit with some speed is powerful, but Rampage on a melee unit good enough to stand up in combat is going to make them nasty. It's a good thing they're so fragile.
yeah definitely want to tie a unit down with marauders first .
these things are hella squishy against infantry charges, it's kind of stupid how it lost like 80% of its health against an infantry unit that costs less than half the cost.
Awesome video! Watching all these cool units reminds me of reading the tabletop army books as a kid.
I know it won't happen, but I would love to see a collab between TotalWar and Warhammer to publish armybooks with all the lore and art combined with the unit stats from Total War Warhammer instead of the tabletop game stats and mechanics.
Dazh's Hearth-Guard function seems to be similar to Questing Knights, having the tools to take on large units although they have anti-inf. buffs. Having a small mass buff seems like it would serve them well, without breaking them.
The RoR dragon guards also have a 20% magic resistance and the RoR exalted blood letter's get a +5 melee attack.
Love the subtle magical effect on their armour.
@@eomat they look very cool
Khorne Flakes - made my day.
“Blood for the Blood God, Milk for the Khorne Flakes” is an ancient tabletop battlecry!
2:46 Xiahou Dun is that you? and is that you? and is that you again?
I used to make-my-own Dune Dragons using that one expensive Yin buff spell, lol… deleted a couple Greater Daemons in my day
Khorne’s ROR looks insane
Greetings!
Preiss algorithm gods!
I need paint some to look like it... Somehow... I am not skilled enough.
These are actually pretty cool, imo. :D
Powder Guts may be my new favorite unit design wise lmao
very smooth operators
Please more Race themed Maneaters or Ogre RoR
Nice new units. :)
Why not do another total war Warhammer 2 online battle? Hands down my favorite videos you did. Good video mate.
because they want people to watch the new game in order for its audience to build up..?
Ok theres one thing I want to see investigated in warhammer 3 vs warhammer 2, I swear in warhammer 2 Spells get more kills, But in warhammer 3, Spells get more damage on a target, but kill less...
Ive noticed this most with the pendulam where it does like 3/4ths of the enemy units health and then but kills like 10 to 15 guys, where a cast in warhammer 2 would have killed 30 models minimum
It was an intentional change as far as I can tell. In Warhammer 2 magical explosions and wind spells had multiple damage zones. So for a magical explosion entities in the center of the blast take more damage than those on the outskirts. In Game 3 this seems to have been simplified to a single uniform damage value done to all entities in the effect area. This is why pendulum was busted before 1.1. They made the damage uniform across the entire effect area without reducing the damage value, so rather than a line of entities in the middle getting killed the entire unit gets wiped. So now post nerf the entire unit is getting hit by pendulum but taking less than lethal damage, so the result is less kills but getting lots of damage. The best example of this effect is Blight Boil. If you cast blight boil on a full strength infantry unit it will get zero kills but thousands of damage.
This was probably an intentional nerf to magic alongside the reserve cap to stop wizards from single-handedly winning battles. I know from messing around in campaign that it takes exactly three blight boils to fully wipe an Ice Guard unit (maybe 2 is possible?). The first deals massive damage but kills zero. The second kills most of the unit, but some manage to survive for some reason. A third to finish them off. Obviously that is really inefficient. The idea is to be efficient you need to use other tools to soften them up first and use the magic as a finisher, or alternatively use the magic to soften them up to give your units an easier time. In this way I don't really mind it.
This mainly applies to wind spells, explosions, and maybe some of the vortexes. Direct damage seems to have been buffed, and bombardments work as before, as bombardments are made of individual projectiles that deal damage to whatever entities they hit rather than being a big AOE bomb.
It's possible that spells got affected by the MASS unit changes. Explosion spells and stuff usually flung enemies in to the air, causing kinetic damage (I saw somewhere on YT that the game has some collision damage system used for damage of charges down-hill etc.)
Wish all of them got the Bloodletter treatment and got some cosmetic touch-ups beyond simple recolouring
With the rampage on the bringers of beguiliment they should be used to trap and kill heavy cavalry
This new units made wish me a Monster PC
That might be a stupid question, but are the RoR save game compatible? Everything elss in the new patch seems to work even if I didn't start a new campaign. I just don't see the RoR button in the UI.
New units from dlc, ror or even mods are not available in game for the player if said game did not start with it. This was also the case in total warhammer 2
@@jonasjanszikowsky8825 thanks! Good to know. As it happens, even if I have thousands of hours on the second game and play since the 1st, I never realized that. Thanks!
I feel as though there should be a mechanic brought in like the blessings where you can pay for a RoR unit to be summoned during a battle but only one battle every 5 turns.
Would make you choose that blessing just before you siege a major settlement etc.
The bringers of beguilment with stalk or something Like that could be fun
doesnt that invalidate their whole point? they want to entice you. you can't do any enticing if you are invisible
@@zacharyjackson1829 my Point was that If you could get them sneakily into the fight and then let them rampage someone, somewhat like the nasty Skulkers. Just a what if scenario in my head
@@ragnar5255 I get what you want. The problem is it invalidates slaneesh's whole theme.
Goblins and rats are meant to be sneaky
@@zacharyjackson1829 Yeah, because this game has been soo lore accurate in every sense.
@@Philipp1500 WH fantasy had been pretty abandoned so being 100% lore accurate isn't necessary. That being said it comes off as weird when you deviate and start having your greenskins becoming "well rounded gentlemen" and your very "enticing" sex demons trying to actually hide themselves with sneak tactics
I don't think that RoR should fill gaps in the Roster. They are just supossed to add some flavour to your armies.
1 unit can’t exactly fill a gap but they can help a bit now and then.
Some are so busted or essential that they are considered mandatory in pvp atleast. Anto large demigryphs with Terror for Empire and unbreakable swordsmen for a sturdier frontline Dwarfs have slayers with slow-it should be obvious why this is good for Dwarfs. Skaven Mortar RoR is straight up bullshit broken.
That's not true, ROR is a good way to help a faction cover a weakness, so long as that weakness isn't supposed to be what balances them, think of it like legendary lords, a legendary lord is something you can only have one of (in both MP and campaign) in mp your limited to a few per battle, in campaign you can have all of them in 1 army, but only one army, having a speciality unit is great, having ROR be just a straight upgrade without much of a difference in role makes then good, but boring, like the norgamling ironbreakers, it's only when they get something that fills a new niche that thry become worth it, look at the dwarfs uthars rangers, as the great weapon variant they suck in melee, and don't have the ammo to keep firing even if you keep them safe, but they do have an ability that let's them support the army, which alone makes them more interesting then then the standard variant, but then they also are more able to do the dream of great weapon rangers, of flanking and smashing an enemy unit, because they are better in melee
they need to add a wildcard into the roster, and they need to look like more than just a reskin IMO
khorne and nurgles may seem lack luster as they dont bring anything terribly new to the table but at the same time doing what their army does best but even better is a fairly significant feature.
Khorne can now break your line almost twice as fast so they become a major focus but that means need to take focus away from other threats, changing up the tactics their enemy can use if not their own. On the opposite end nurgle now has a unit that can bog you down extra long and if your usual tactic was to grind them down slowly but surely, well now thats potentially off the table, send the wrong units against them and they potentially clean through them and come out full health with all models.
Not to say they are brilliant but have as much potential as they are kinda boring. Alas there are still some major holes in some armies that really could do with being addressed, slanesh lack of anti-flying, nurgles abysmal movement speed, when the skirmish heavy armies arrive they are just gonna get minced...
I know what you mean, but with ROR I really feel they should add something radically different, like say give the Bloodletters a ranged ability akin to the Exhaulted Plaguebearers, throwing skulls that disrupt enemy lines or something. I think ROR's should have a slightly different model and role, like the Raven Heralds and the Black Lion warwagon. These kind of feel like more of the same. The Slaanesh ones in particular really could use some blisbarb arrows or peltasts to add some limited kiting to draw enemies into hammer and anvil
I even thought about a different ROR for Khorne where its actually improved chaos warriors (akin to the skullreapers/wrathmongers) where they are essentially unbreakable and can cause rampage to nearby enemy units when one of their own gets killed
Even if they are a little lack luster at least they look fucking gucci
when do you think the Warhammer 2 factions will come? next year??
Just 20 more armor for the hellforged host since they are based on the exalted bloodletters...
I think they should have more...
I only have just over 650hrs in the series and I don't currently believe even on this patch I can get a lord to rank 20 on Normal/Normal. This game is crazy, I feel like I have no clue what's ever going on.
I'd like to see a nurgle mortis engine that isnt a lord or hero, and some more AP air
Hearth Blades Huurth Blades Hearth Blades =Haarth Blades!
HELP.. am on a nurgle camp loving it but I can’t recruit regiments of renown only noticed when I unlocked the greatunclean one renown unit and %100 want it but the tab isn’t on screen but I do have a shaven alliance recruitment outpost is that effecting it I tried to demolish it but still nothing anyone help
The dune dragons use warpstone armour... that can't be safe.
Have they added blood to the game featuring the Blood God yet?
No not tell around September October unfortunately
they made a roadmap. look it up
@@zacharyjackson1829 what an embarassing road map, taking them nearly a year after launch to leave the secret early access it launched as.
@@Dermetsu I agree, but don't honestly care. I was just telling you how to find out the info you're looking for
@@zacharyjackson1829 fair enough.
Can you actually recruit RoR while playing chaos undivided, or is it just me (bug or something)? Cause I don't even have an option to recruit them, though got popup notification, that those are unlocked and available.
Are you playing on old save?
@@TamLe-bj2yl yes, but I started a new campaign and same issue here.
There is a button next to normal recruit for you to take the ROR units. You should be able to get all 4 of them.
@@TamLe-bj2yl I am well aware of that :) TW W 2 veteran here. Problem is that there is no button whatsoever.
Your voice sounds like Korg from the Marvel movies 😁
How, lol
Question: Does Magic Resistance still affect Magic Attacks?
No, they didn't want magic attacks to often be a disadvantage anymore because magic attacks are supposed to be an advantage, so they changed Magic Resistance to just reduce the damage of spells
@@kuvuta That's good to know. Vice-versa, what DO Magic Attacks do now, then? Just bypass resistances and armor?
@@HiddenEvilStudios Just bypass Physical Resistance. They don't affect the armor
@@kuvuta Ahhh, I see. Thanks for the short and sweet. I seem to recall CA wanting to change Magic Resistance in some way, but wasn't sure if that actually went through. The in-game tooltips don't make this clear, I don't believe.
@@HiddenEvilStudios
i dont think there is magic resistance anymore. its called spell resistance.
and yes magic attacks are ideal for bypassing physical resistance...which demons often have, as well as the huge 75% physical resistance of wraiths.
they dont have any disadvantage anymore as far as i can see.
What is your gpu
Ey yo.. how come this recently released game has floating shields and warriors who slowly stroke their shields?
The hearthblades are holding their falcatas the wrong way around :/
Glad someone else noticed it!
I actually thought they would at least add like 10 or so like previous factions, but only one???
Next patch every faction gets another one, also free. After that I guess there will be RoR in combination with DLCs
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how do you recruit them?
you have to reach a certain level with one of your lords and then they unlock themselves automatically.
I am somehow increadibly annoyed with the fact that half of RoR Tsar Guard holds their swords wrong and hits with blunt side
sometimes you need to BONK and not slice
it really disapoints me when rors are basically just the normal unit but with a stat boost a good ror imo is like the bestigor ror as it fills a different role than normal bestigors and isnt just them with buffed stats they are turned into an antilarge unit which the beastmen have no high tier infantry for
I mean everything is appreciated at this point but fuck I've seen modders do more interesting work. Also jesus christ this game still looks so goddamn goofy without blood effects
When people be talking about the fundamentals of your faction’s design as a hole that desperately needs to be filled 😳
thats literally what RoR normally end up being. Considering there's only 1 available for your ENTIRE faction on campaign, why not give Slaneesh some armoured daemonettes or something.... ya know, fun?
"..A nice unit for the ogres, but not adding anything new.." Excuse me sir, have you gone mad? Are you not seeing the ultra stylish feathers upon those ogres' caps?!
I love the legend of renown units but I feel some of them are underperforming if we compare them to their counterpart when they are raised to rank 9 and then there stats are equal to the legend of renown version and in a 5vs5 legend of renown vs ordinary rank 9 the Hellforged Host, Festering Stooges, Bringers of Beguilement, Blazing Squealers, underperformed but the Dazh’s Hearth-Blades, Dune Dragons, did pretty well and the Powder-Guts, it was mostly a draw so in summary the Hellforged Host, Festering Stooges, Bringers of Beguilement, Blazing Squealers, and Powder-Guts could use a little boost like giving the Hellforged Host could have the Hellblade ability to and a little boost in weapon strength and Anti Infantry and the Festering Stooges a bit more melee defense would be good and for the Bringers of Beguilement the Charmed ability to melee attack would be nice and the Blazing Squealers a bit more range and missile strength be cool for Powder-Guts a bit more range and missile strength and weapon strength
It was always the case, that the ROR is a gold chevroned unit with free additional ability. So its always better to have than standard, but not tat better if you have veteran units.
@@Aayren Fun tidbit: In game 2 RoR units get don't recover fatigue as fast as regular rank 9 units,because the game doesn't recognise them as being rank9! In that department regular rank9 units are definitely better than RoR. Typical CA oversight. Don't know if it's still that way in game3.
In my opinion:
Very decent RoR, fills some nice gaps in army roster-Slaanesh, Kislev, Cathay
Ok but it could be better-Tzeentch, Ogre Kingdoms
Waste of RoR-Khorne, Nurgle
FoR tHe AlGoRiThM
Still waiting for Immortal Empires to drop out of Beta... :/
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Sad that CA has forced content creators to milk a ten minute video out of just a few RoR, all of them getting the same description of "pretty much the same unit, just..."
Pack 1 was disappointing. I was expecting atleast 2 RoRs for each faction. And given that we only got 1 per faction its even more lame that they are all just their top tier infantry with an extra ability tacked on.
RORs have always been top tier units with extra ability tacked on
@@alaine9457 nah brah, RoRs are best when they are a different variation that gave a unit some new utility, like the man rippers getting an antilarge bonus instead of anti infantry or the arachnarok queen being able to summon spiderlings.
@@ralphiemay8933 those came into the game after its life cycle was past a year
Siuuuu
ngl, just 1 unit per faction feels extremely underwhelming. I despise being like "why didn't they just add more 4head" because 1. WH3 is already in a sorry state so im sure most of them are on fixing it and 2. IDK how game dev works.
But considering all a RoR is is a recolored, stat tweaked, normal unit that needs some QA and balance, surely more then 7 at this stage isn't too much to ask
CA never planned to give away free RoR. They dicided to release RoR it to placate the angry fanbase slighty. As you can see they are all infantry RoR, so not much work and effort had to be done with them. All the interesting RoR is coming with paid DLC as originally planned.
jesus christ, cry me a river. "why dont they give us more, more, more, moooooooooooooooooooore?"
They're working on more important things numbnut.
it's no different than how they implemented RoR before except now they are doing 1 per faction rather then doing it in stages based on each faction
if you werent around you may not have known that in game 2 when RoR was implemented they did it per each faction. that meant 1 faction received a bunch of crazy strong units that would decimate players in multiplayer and you were at a disadvantage until your faction finally got its RoR
Am I the only one that doesnt care about regiment or renown...like at all? Its just reskins with stat differences and MAYBE another attribute like flame attack. Modders can and have always done those sort of units better and faster. Seems like a wasted ressource
there really isnt that much resources going into this to be honest.
or were you assuming the same people who are trying to get the immortal map functional are busy with this as well? lol
So basically none of the ROR units bring anything new to the factions?!
The ror are super lazy imo, but I’m not gonna be happy till the immortal empire release.
Lazy is an understatement. Reskins with some minor buffs. Classic CA.
regenerating only in combat?? thats pretty meh...
they cant use it to recover but only to reduce damage taken.
Basically for everyone their RoR is just a fucking nothing -burger, and then Tzeench gets a spare ammo cart in form of RoR. Sweet.
Cathay halberdiers are slow, AI wont stay fighting with them for long, if its single entity is loosing. And because Cathay army is not focused on blobbing, like VC, they will be useless on open maps
So, no.
I swear half the people on earth don’t know how to pronounce hearth
even with the ror units added after i played 2 campaigns ive had zero interest to touch it again until the mortal empires. The campaign in this game is just terrible imo and rushes you.
What a boring patch. "Here's stuff you already know, just a little better". Thanks CA
Don't think any units make anything in the game even remotely better
So starved for content
Can we please just ignore WH3 until they give us IE ffs?
I'm not desperate for IE or anything. The regular campaign is passable and will be good with the fixes they have planned. The problem is that those changes as well as shit like "tweaking reinforcement numbers for slaanesh and tzeentch" and "a couple reskins for ROR" are taking MONTHS. Pretty ridiculous. I've already played a few campaigns and I'm out till the chaos warriors update.
Or you could just ignore it and the people who want to enjoy it and looking forward to its future can
@@jordand1222 if it has a future
Normal people: "Eh I am not interested in this game, I will just watch other videos"
This f***ing moron: "STAHP MAKING CONTENT I DON'T WANT TO SEE"
Gotta love everyone defending the duplicitous early access game.
who cares about regiments of renown when the game is still a broken mess not worth 60 bucks. We got ripped off.
I need to stop reading the comment sections on WH3 stuff, most whiny and miserable playerbase I've ever witnessed.
Just shush next time and scroll past instead of whining about whiners aka: the worst kind.
@@OneofInfinity. cry some more
Don’t forget the fire attacks on the hearth blades also slows ALL healing effects as well
So would be good against fleshy abundance
And regrowth