Surface Laptop Studio 2 - Performance and Throttling Tests on AC & USB-C
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 มิ.ย. 2024
- It's Surface Season again, and this time on the test bench we have the Surface Laptop Studio 2. Let's find out how many watts it can sustain on my RTX 4060 model as the amount of power it can pull will be a good judge of performance.
Timespy
Overall: 9997
GPU: 9702
CPU: 12086
Cinebench 2024
GPU: 10122
CPU Multi: 807
I don't think the tent mode will help much for these particular tests because the CPU limits out at 50W after 28 seconds and the GPU is limited to 80W max no matter what.
It's the combined workload or "Total System Power" That gets boosted when in tent mode, rather than the dynamics of the CPU or GPU alone. Since these tests seem to hit the CPU and GPU separately, the performance boost of being in Studio/Tent mode won't be expressed, as you only see it when using CPU & GPU at the same time. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
OMG, a good start! I’d love to hear about performance in Returnal, Cyberpunk, Portal RTX, and Ratchet & Clank in their Ultra RT modes with DLSS3 frame generation turned on, in both DLSS Quality and Performance modes. Sounds like only tent mode with the large power brick is required for that kind of benchmarking ?
Great video! I cannot wait to get mine delivered. I really hope thet the thermal throttling in laptop mode will get better with a software update or something because the temperature got pretty low at times and it still did not pull more power.
Thank you very much for the excellent video! Even while not gaming, I use a BT keyboard and mouse in tent mode.
Best Intro I have seen for a laptop review period.
The intro was filled contempt lol!
Your intro is so so so entertaining 😂 Can I ask about the battery life in real world use?
Appreciate this. Would love to see more details about the CPU tests/timing much like you did for GPU. Does it throttle nearly immediately? If we only have access to a decent CPU for a short burst, then this is definitely not the creative productivity machine for me. Also curious if all that noise in the video was from SLS2 fan? At which stage did that kick in and be one so loud?
Sounds like you missed the latter half of the video maybe?
Went and watched it again and missed you saying “when GPU is not used”. So that makes a lot more sense 😊 Was a Little confused by the fan noise and assumed the machine was still running GPU tests or at least was still hot from that. Still not sure when “kinda throttled” kicks but this was a helpful test for sure! My work is primarily audio where load is fairly steady due to processing real-time audio streams. So I’m always interested in how much of the CPU a thermal design actually lets me use before throttling. Short bursts aren’t as useful for getting me through a work day unfortunately.
great intro!
Love the intro 😂
Very good insights. Thanks a lot! :-) I wonder if a fake tent mode (pulling the bottom of the screen just 1-2 cm off) would do the trick or if the system requires the full tent mode.
another thing to check would be.... simply placing a small magnet on the side of the chassis to see if you can fool it into thinking it is in tent mode.... wow I wish I did a video on that before I returned it.
@@cbutters That's a great idea.
-Wondering how it performs when laid flat in "studio mode" or even with the screen flipped to the backside. These are the two modes I'd use most for creative work and need it to still be able to use its power.
-Also wondering if this has enough power for 3d modeling and also architectural programs.
-How does it perform in gaming with various popular titles? FPS?
-Really curious if this covers my uses so I can get out of the quagmire deciding between this and a ASUS ROG Flow x16 with its 4070. Seen that the x16's pen isn't great with its dated MPP. Is the SLS 2 good enough power-wise to where I can forget about the x16 and its sh!++y pen?
Thank you :)
Of-course its powerful enough to do pretty much whatever you want as long as you get it with the 4060GPU. With that GPU it's by far more than capable of doing all task fast and on point as long as you keep it plugged in. That's the catch.
Do we know if the USBC-4 is PD3.1 140w or still using the old 100w limit?
Any cinebench, timespy or other synthetic benchmarking results?
i cant figure out if the standard intel iris xe is worth it. or if i need to upgrade to atleast 4050. i am going to use it for study, and also for some screen recording for educational purposes with camtasia and some video editing in camtasia. can you maybe enlighten me with this +
Would this work for stock trading with the amount of data coming in and out every second? Also having 2 external screens attached. Thanks
Hey mate! Is your timespy cpu score really 12086?
Great video! How is the battery life on normal use?
can you compare to sls 1 and current z13 performance benchmarks?
I'm really curious how this performs compared to ASUS ROG z13 / x13, especially in "studio mode" aka tablet mode.
What happens when you flip screen other way ? Does it throttle ?
Hey I’d really love to see your review on the upcoming legion go! I recently returned my Asus z13 due to the stuttering and heat. If you think about it the legion go is basically a smaller surface pro when you take off the controllers except with a much better price and performance. But the battery life probably won’t be good on the legion go. It’s just unfortunate that they don’t have an option to buy an attachable keyboard.
Oh did you have the 4060 model i was thinking of getting one but maybe not now.
@@silverpro8356 I did. I returned it back in July after using it for 2 months because I had the Best Buy membership. I was trying to convince myself it was still okay. But I eventually came to terms that for about $2000 I shouldn’t keep something I’m not completely happy with. It’s possible Asus could’ve fixed the stuttering but I’m not sure how they could since it is severely power limited. Why they decided to go with Intel when they know they’re restricted to 130w, I have no idea. The gpu is great, but it’s the fact they went with a power hungry Intel chip is what killed it. It did constant micro stutters. It doesn’t show up on TH-cam video benchmarks, or when you look at your fps monitor. The screen just stutters and makes the 140 fps you’re getting look terrible. Please look it up to back up what I’m saying. I did and found out it was also a problem on the last year model (probably even worse since that only had a 100w charger).
Is that the fan?
Super interesting findings, could I ask how it's performing when lid is closed? Typically when you got it connected to an external screen...
I wish we had control of the fan curve. It gets ridiculously loud while gaming, and the internals are reading at 70 degrees. I'd rather have them closer to 80 and quieter than 70 and loud as hell.
Can i get an idea to get a ss2 4060 64gb 1tb or asus rog xflow 16 i9 13th . My main priority is drawing.
Id really love to see gaming performance with an egpu
I bought this with the 4060, 64 gig, 2-TB drive and I can't use my Vive XR elite with it playing VR games. Vive tells me that the Intel keeps breaking into the video. I've done all I can find to do. I even disabled the Intel graphics which just made it worse. Sorry to be a bother but any chance you saw this issue?
I wish that MS would allows us to somewhat customize this behavior. Going from only 50W power draw to over 100W is a massive difference in performance and given that for a lot of intensive tasks I would like to use the keyboard I don't think I would mind it feeling a little hot for that extra juice.
exactly, It really is like 60W 4060 with an option to go up to 80w.
Won’t placing it on a stand help reduce heat and make it run sturdy?
about the only conclusion I can take from this, is don't go back and forth between tent and laptop mode. Obviously when you go to Tent mode, then back, the unit is trying to cool itself down. You need to do a test where you leave it alone for 10 mins , then let it sit off for an hour and repeat for tent mode for 10 mins
Why does it go down so much in laptop mode? Are there vents under the screen that open up when you put in tent mode or something? It doesn't make sense to me
I'm thinking maybe a design choice to keep the typing experience somewhat comfortable.
exactly this.
how does this even compete with x13?
do you reccomend this surface for a photographer and videographer? I wanted a macbook Pro for my work, but i never had iOS and growing up with Windows. But we all know how good macbook pro are. Can I do my work with the Surface? I work preeminently with premiere pro and 4k videos with 10bit and more.
studio 2 is way ahead of macbook pro, macbook pro is good but studio 2 is better.
@@mightylaxus9467 so you think i can do nothing wrong with the studio 2 :-)
@@mightylaxus9467 Hard disagree. I just ordered the SLS2, but what pushed me over was gaming, Linux, and not wanting to deal with 2 separate devices. For videography and photography, I'd def go for a macbook. Battery life is insane, ARM architecture is insane.
It's hard to rely on other people's opinion because it's just that, their opinion and at times bias. I would suggest looking at technical reviews of similar spec devices to give you an idea.
Pay attention to the specs. For the type of work you do you'll want something with one of the dedicated gpu configurations not the integrated only configuration. If battery life is important to you than that's where a mac has the advantage. Remember it's about what works for your use case and be sure to do some research.
The macbook pro provides full power on battery, if you do heavy work on the Studio 2 you get 1 hour of battery life when the macbook would give you at least 4-5. Plus the mac will work exactly the same while the studio 2 will slow down a lot on battery.
Is this 'freshly bought'? Wait 10 months and re-do tests - I assume you'll be using it - it they did not use LQM, then this will dry-out quickly and forget about dissipating 80W.
Best intro ever.
I for some reason cannot install the newest NVIDIA driver - it tells me it’s not conpatible with the version of windows.. and in Furmark it only uses 60watts… :(
Set your power settings to "best performance" to get 80
@@cbutters literally 1 0seconds after i send the comment - u showed that u have to enable best performance :D thank you!!
Great video, thanks! Something funny going on with the sound though, maybe you're sitting off to the side of a stereo mic? Just FYI.
Can you compare the performance between Laptop Studio 2 with iGPU vs Laptop Studio 1 with 3050TI
the 13th gen (SLS2) igpu isn't much better at all than the igpu in the SLS1, its pretty much the same with a 1.35->1.5Ghz clock boost
Timespy on the SLS2 iGPU would be something like 1700 and the 3050 TI on the SLS1 gets ~5200
@@cbutters so now you think SLS1 3050TI is better at performance and price than SLS2 iGPU? Should I stick with SLS1
@maiquanghoa157 if you're comparing a sls1 w/ 3050 ti to a sls2 with only igpu.... yes, keep the SLS1. Unless you have massive need for cpu performance
The fan noise seems very intrusive
I cant watch this, its too scary! xD
Making 2800 bucks sound good and horrendous at the same time... yayyyy.
The algorithm they have controlling the CPU+GPU power when you change from tent mode to laptop seems really dumb. Power level are jumping all over the place in a manner of seconds while the temperature cannot possible be changing that rapidly. Great detailed engineering there from the surface team as usual. It is a hard sell trying to charge Macbook prices without the quality.
I fail to understand why the package would deliver more or less power between the screen modes, when the cooling profile wont be affected (as far as I can tell) by the physical screen position! Unless someone can explain if there's some clever air recirculation going on when the screen is pulled forward?
@@martinjgriffithsthey are delivering less power in laptop mode to presumable not let the keyboard deck get too hot. In tent mode they assume you wont be touching it. Still the power fluctuates in an uncontrolled way when charging modes based on the video
@@mac3864 Ahh ok, yes that does make more sense! Thanks for the reply 🙂
I'd rather build a PC than buying that limited power thing with loud fans
It's like paying more for less which doesn't make sense, it only makes money for them
It’s largely form factor luxury for digital artists that want something more robust than an iPad Pro and more mobile than a Wacom tablet
Enjoyed the content. You need to work on your studio and lighting though. It wasn't great.
It's so loud 😅
360p gang.
Yeah, sorry... its processing... quality will be 4K soon :)
Does it still have PWM i swear i want to hit microsoft with all this PWM crap on their screens same with apple. Take away this damn PWM cause 50% of people cant use these deviced and 100% of people do have eye problems or will develop eye problems with PWM.
Just run it at max brightness all the time
Kidding