Using the Tracker for Midi Sequencing // Well that was Confusing..

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  • First time trying to utilize the midi out on the polyend tracker. I wish i would have explored more to see if it had a some midi effects but maybe next time!
    Overall, utilizing a Tracker sequencer to sequence an analog synth was pretty straightforward! Minus figuring out that the TRS to 5-pin adapter was the wrong standard..
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  • @Fluxwithit
    @Fluxwithit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This is actually a great video. Very honest in your frustrations and learning curve here. Love it. I’m sure I’d be dealing with the same issues and a day later be flying around, which would make me wanna reshoot the video to not look bumbling.... so I love this. Properly real.

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks Ken! We’re figuring this out together!

  • @barnstormer322
    @barnstormer322 4 ปีที่แล้ว +95

    Note: the plug you're calling USB-B is actually USB-A.
    So the difference between USB A, B and C is:
    - A is the 'host' port: that is, the port that goes into the device that is 'in charge' of the relationship - usually a computer
    - B is the 'slave' port: the port that goes into the device that's being controlled / acting as an input device for the host.
    - C is a port that can act as either host or slave.
    That means that a USB-C device needs to negotiate which role it will take every time it is connected to something else. I'm guessing that's where something fails when you connect the Tracker to your MacBook - it's possible the Tracker doesn't include the hardware to establish itself as a 'slave' so you end up with a weird deadlock where nothing really happens.
    By using a USB-A to USB-C cable, you're 'forcing' the MacBook to establish itself as the host, which allows the connection to be made correctly (even though you're adapting it back to USB-C on the other side, I'd guess that the C to A adapter forces host mode on the MacBook because there's literally no other way you could be using USB-A, so it makes sense).
    Fun fact: (almost) every USB plug that isn't a USB-A or USB-C is a USB-B, including micro USB and the big square plugs commonly used on music gear, which makes a lot of sense when you think about it.
    If you want to read up on this, I found a handy resource at www.cablestogo.com/learning/connector-guides/usb :)

    • @LeKikoojap
      @LeKikoojap 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Older smartphone are micro-USB but they could act as host (mouse, microphone, stuff like that), I don't get it.

    • @mixchief
      @mixchief 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can this thing be connected to computer with a normal ”old school” USB (v2 or 3.0 ish)?

    • @Mendomi
      @Mendomi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks!

    • @barnstormer322
      @barnstormer322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LeKikoojap for that you had to use a special "USB OTG" cable which connected to the smartphone and allowed it to be the host

    • @chrismoore2971
      @chrismoore2971 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also regarding cables, the midi 'standard' thing:
      TRS midi type 'A' to DIN is the now standard
      Prior to this TRS midi type 'B' was the old standard. That's what the tracker uses (and old Novation gear and some other bits)
      The type B adapters are getting harder to get!
      Annoying, huh.

  • @im0b
    @im0b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    One of those devices isn't negotiating power delivery properly and im betting on the tracker, similar problem with the rpi4 boards - glad that adapter trick worked for you but its limited and not the fastest charging theoretically possible.
    basically cheap c to c cables will work just fine. expensive cables have chips inside them that cause all the hassle originally a safety feature turned into a drm shit storm is as far as i intend to understand this, google is your friend though, cheers!

    • @twotgfltandahalf
      @twotgfltandahalf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yea, the tracker likely never tells the other end if it's a power source or a power consumer, so the Mac goes for the safe bet and do nothing. Which is the standards compliant way and with a compliant C-C cable that is what will happen too. When you use a C - A (not B as Ricky says, B's the one you find on the back of your printer) cable, you've already established that the tracker simply cannot be a power source, and the adapter just... adapts in that case. So there's only one option, Mac cannot be power consumer and thus provides.
      A cheap C - C cable might work, because they are usually not compliant. Just, dumb cables. Like the adapter. It's not rare to see these with incorrect pull-up resistors though, to trick wall-warts into delivering 1.5 A+, which in a worst-case-scenario could damage receiving end.

    • @roccoharris
      @roccoharris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I really wish I knew what the hell y'all're talking about. I'm interested enough to have read everything you stated here. but I'm flabbergasted at how completely unfamiliar/uneducated I am with all of this biz. where might one of you recommend someone like me--interested, but lost like a babe in the woods--should turn to begin to get some sort of a handle on this technological wizardry?
      -your time & consideration are greatly appreciated.

    • @im0b
      @im0b 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@roccoharris depends what you are actually looking into understanding but i guess engineering is the beginning of anything related, also dont be scared of math its there to help. ;)

    • @roccoharris
      @roccoharris 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@im0b math is here to help. don't be scared. ;-) I love it!! thanks for your encouraging words, leon.

  • @MChristian
    @MChristian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Ricky you are always end forever the chillest inspiration.

  • @kookiespace
    @kookiespace 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I've only recently gotten into electronic music production (previously playing live guitar mostly without effects), and I _binged_ your (and others) videos with all the gear and was just blown away by everything. It was a whole new universe I got to explore and your channel was really quite important on steering my opinions.
    I was kinda worried that I would get GAS tbh, and I had already bought some gear, and could picture myself getting so much more. But then I made a decision and ended up getting the drumbrute impact, the erica synths db-01, a zoom h6, and two effect pedals (earthquakers pyramids & electro harmonix canyon), and since then I've made some cool stuff on them and gotten into the groove of using them better. I've kinda realised that I really need this immediate approach of no computers or menus or anything. I've barely used programming patterns even, usually sequencing on the fly.
    It's interesting now watching videos on these really powerful (almost computers) tools that I really don't like that workflow. I understand why other people like it, and it's incredibly powerful, and you can do some impressive stuff on them, but it's just not for me. I even have an electribe and can't really get myself to use it, instead of my far cheaper instruments (well okay not _together_), being just much more fun for me.
    I still like watching these videos, because I can have a look at a different way of music making, which I feel I can still learn from. But ultimately, it was videos like the drumbrute+avelon or the db-01 ones that really inspired me. And I also wanted to thank you for putting all this effort into your videos, because fuck I need this shit right now. Keep it up, you're amazing!

    • @musicdude1540
      @musicdude1540 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You need to get a DAW. Do a 30 day DAW challenge and your life will be changed forever. You're so choked rn.

  • @ofutur
    @ofutur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Small note. It's USB-A. The B type is what you have on the Deluge per example. The square-ish port.

  • @hallvardaleksanderulsund775
    @hallvardaleksanderulsund775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    18:10 i thought i was losing my mind spending an entire afternoon trying to get my newly bought Akai Force to send midi clock/transport to my tracker. I didn’t know what to search for online, but when you mentioned different midi-standards, i immediately tried out the midi to trs (?) adapter that came with the polyend tracker instead of the Akai Force and presto!
    Thanks Ricky!

  • @TheLordGU
    @TheLordGU 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What never fails to amaze me and what I find outstanding cool about you and your channel is that it really comes across that you love doing this stuff. Sure, more often than not I find myself asking what you just did there, mostly because it shows that you have an idea about the sound and what it might take to bring it to life. For me, this really helps me getting into thing again … and for this Tracker videos, they really helped me re making a decision. Thanks for sharing these session, thanks for being vulnerable - and thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!

  • @souldefunk
    @souldefunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another fun, knowledge-filled video. Nice groove there too. Cheers.

  • @DocBolus
    @DocBolus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    One of the joys of the hardware route is that each instrument gives you a little bit of creativity through their own quirks.

    • @emmas.h386
      @emmas.h386 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is the most optimistic way of describing infuriating hardware issues I’ve ever heard!! Envious of you if that’s how you feel when things don’t work haha!!

    • @DocBolus
      @DocBolus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@emmas.h386 Sometimes you just have to learn to roll with it, or pretend you meant 'that' to happen really. :-)

    • @sebastianfernandez6146
      @sebastianfernandez6146 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Factsss, each one of them has a sort of “personality.”

    • @DocBolus
      @DocBolus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sebastianfernandez6146 Totally, and getting to know them is half the fun

    • @jaesteve17
      @jaesteve17 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seriously tho!

  • @OronnokPrithibi
    @OronnokPrithibi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    change your cable. not all type c cable transfers data and delivers power at the same time. get a EMCA type c to c cable

    • @JoshEvansWrites
      @JoshEvansWrites 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Came here to type this

    • @JamesReedy
      @JamesReedy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Josh Evans In fact I think the in the box MacBook Type C to C cable is like this; vdd, gnd, and CC for the PD negotiation and that’s all no data lines beyond CC.

    • @simondanielssonmusic
      @simondanielssonmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hate that about USB cables in general. There usually are no tags on them to say how much data or power thay are evaluated to push.

    • @OronnokPrithibi
      @OronnokPrithibi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simondanielssonmusic I think there are tags on branded cables.
      ss = 3.0/3.1 gen 1
      ss+10 = 3.1 gen 2 (10Gigabit)
      ss (or +10) and a power sign = speed + power

    • @watercolourmark
      @watercolourmark 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This! I have Google Pixel 4 and only the Pixel cable is charging it. My nephew wanted to charge his Nintendo Switch over at my place, I said try my USB C phone cable. But he said, phone cables don't work. I used mine and it worked. Had same issue buying USB C to 3.5" dongle. Brought one before I read small print, didn't work. Ordered a Pixel 4 version and it works.

  • @lucianodaloisio
    @lucianodaloisio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On my headphones dancing alone that killer beat, great Enrique!

  • @moad8794
    @moad8794 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for all these videos. Just getting into this thing and you have no idea how much these help

  • @ringandtones
    @ringandtones 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bell rings, I click, thumb up and watch 👍 Great to see you using the DB-01 again in a video.

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hell yea!!! Thanks for the support

  • @jimmatheson9125
    @jimmatheson9125 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Gear makers could use 4 diodes instead of 1 on their TRS MIDI inputs, then it does not matter what "standard" the other device/cable is using. I did it on some euro modules and it works great.

  • @markwerth4471
    @markwerth4471 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel Ricky! Just received my Tracker on 9/18/20 😊 Your video was inspirational, thanks!

  • @johnp1085
    @johnp1085 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this was great! love seeing the db-01 again. I've been doing deluge + db-01 and it's an incredible combo

  • @604Yarks
    @604Yarks 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I hope @Polyend is showing you some love Ricky because you probably just sold one to this guy

    • @604Yarks
      @604Yarks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spoiler alert, I bought one. Hella fun.

    • @briannhinton
      @briannhinton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like it?

    • @604Yarks
      @604Yarks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@briannhinton yep! I think the learning curve for me (as a novice to production in general) was a bit steep but I'm really enjoying using it and learning more each time I do.

  • @cYndroid
    @cYndroid ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I'm currently up to, little hardware synths in my polyend tracker.
    Enjoyed watching your workflow, great vid, great vibes. Thanks.

  • @Nico-np9bh
    @Nico-np9bh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel less lonely when I see you searching for a solution! It's part of the game! ;)

  • @nonamelato
    @nonamelato 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Came for the Tracker tips, left to order a DB-01.

    • @kwaping
      @kwaping 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You won't regret it!

  • @mikesavi5081
    @mikesavi5081 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ricky, have you ever owned or worked with a Tempest? I rarely see them in anyone’s setup these days. I suspect you might really dig one of those

  • @mozzdog
    @mozzdog 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I start getting into these jams and then forget you are trying to teach me something.

  • @ThesisOfSyn
    @ThesisOfSyn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yea, sequencers are cool, but have you ever tried filling in a spreadsheet?

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If it bops, then it bops.

    • @SandyNoble
      @SandyNoble 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@milk_bath Impossible to disagree

    • @foodstampz
      @foodstampz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It takes logic..

  • @sub-jec-tiv
    @sub-jec-tiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s really a great tool for making weird percussion and sound design. Definitely is not gonna put the MPC out of a job as a drum machine, for a few reasons. And isn’t amazing as a midi sequencer. But once you get your muscle memory together on its functions, you can make crazy creative mutant sounds you’d never make on a DAW or MPC, in relatively short order. Sync it up with an MPC for quickly punching in beats, it’s a ridiculous combo.

  • @Nothingspeshalwaysfresh
    @Nothingspeshalwaysfresh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your videos Ricky! My tracker still has no shipping details most likely in the August batch.. so just know everyone that’s waiting lives vicariously through each video posted on TH-cam ;)

  • @remyvegamedia
    @remyvegamedia ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been running through your Polyend related videos. The Tracker seems so fun because it's exactly the opposite of how I think of making music in every way haha.

  • @et4able
    @et4able 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Keep posting please! I don’t watch news anymore (too depressing) just Ricky Tinez.

  • @oldskooldeano
    @oldskooldeano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool to see how you gently shepherded that jam into something coherent. I cannot wait to get my hands on a Tracker. It seems so clear and logical to me. I guess that’s just how my brain is wired. Each to their own, however you do it, just do it.

  • @sectiondrecords4580
    @sectiondrecords4580 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! Thanks for all your insightful and entertaining videos.

  • @gctechs
    @gctechs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You always need to input note off in trackers manually, when programming notes. In recording it should work right away.

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aaahh noticed when recording in. But makes sense Since the way I did it was through a fill action

  • @hsuanhanlai
    @hsuanhanlai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To my knowledge, the tracker may have USB hosting capability. So USB C to USB C is two host to host. Two does not know who to be the host. But when you use the USB A dongle it forces the other end to be the slave instead of a host.

  • @sebp400
    @sebp400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    just got one today, and you're giving me ideas.. I also do house, and this is perfect for it. Man, now I want a db-01 too.

  • @Emily_M81
    @Emily_M81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    From the FAQ: What is the Tracker internal PPQN resolution?
    Its internal PPQN resolution is 192.

  • @Moonsteal
    @Moonsteal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any suggestions for adapters that work for the tracker besides the old Novation ones? I love mine but I can't find any adapters that work for connecting to 5 pin MIDI

  • @BrancoArgenta
    @BrancoArgenta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish they made it 16 tracks or more, like the FT2 and USB Audio with multitrack.
    Do you think it would be possible in future updates?

    • @hiding_my_name
      @hiding_my_name 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've heard in interviews that you can render multiple tracks into a single track... most likely into a .wav sample. I haven't seen anything that confirms this. But this would theoretically provide unlimited tracks, assuming you're 100% done with the tracks you render... you may be able to juggle stems around since you're supposedly able to export those too.

  • @mindseyerobot
    @mindseyerobot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wish I was more excited about the tracker. a tracker in a box has been a dream for a long time. but I feel they have taken the basics of something like renoise, stripped back all the power and put it in hardware without actually giving it enough of the benefits of being hardware. it needs individual outputs, or multiple proper midi outputs or cv/gate and it could be a true brain of a studio setup, maybe some macro control knobs. but instead it seems like requires way too much work just to end up having to export back to a DAW for mixing. however good luck to them and hopefully it leads to a bigger more powerful version one day in the future. a polyend tracker / elektron octatrack bastard child would be amazing.

    • @mindseyerobot
      @mindseyerobot 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Black Coffee Now indeed.. like the mpc X equivalent central brain.. but tracker..but hardware... one can only dream. this is a great start though and still an awesome device to exist.

    • @ChrisLeeW00
      @ChrisLeeW00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love using vsts in renoise way too much to move to a hardware tracker.

    • @auxorion
      @auxorion 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mindseyerobot They're probably testing the waters to see if there is a market for this... trackers are an enigma to most people.
      I personally would have loved if it had support for all tracker formats (like a MilkyTracker in a box). It seems to be aimed at being like an Elektron machine, with the intention of being used for general music production. I initially hoped it was targeting making .mod, .xm, .it etc. files. I was hoping this could mean a genuine resurgence of Tracker and demoscene. It is definitely a good start though.

    • @mixchief
      @mixchief 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@auxorion Wait. No. Don’t tell me it can’t load mod/it/xm tracker songs?

    • @mixchief
      @mixchief 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’d love a way to access a few more FX lanes a well. Although, contradictory enough I also appreciate (some) restrictions here and there.

  • @nosebeareatsfudge3275
    @nosebeareatsfudge3275 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    so if i hook up an external midi keyboard, i can record chords and a melody, and just not make jungle and ambient stuff? like sequencing on a track recorder?

  • @philipkemp426
    @philipkemp426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ricky- "I just use splice for all my samples"
    Wall of connoisseur synths- "..."

    • @furlong5439
      @furlong5439 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am sure the sounds he uses for his videos and the sounds he uses for this actually releases are far different.

  • @roccoharris
    @roccoharris 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wanna say 20:02, 'cause I love palindromic numbers like that so much, but... it's a second or two before that... enrique hears that sweet little bongo roll for what seems like the very first time. he loves it so much!! I love THAT!! ;-)

  • @Fatal_Jinx
    @Fatal_Jinx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your vids man. They keep me so entertained.

  • @Astra_Dystopium
    @Astra_Dystopium 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been super curious about the polyend. It’s such a pretty piece of hardware to me. The way it’s laid out seems ‘correct’ to me.

  • @iantanner7579
    @iantanner7579 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Think I'll stick with my MPC units,
    the Tracker looks gorgeous, has deep, inspirational options,
    but it just doesn't come across as an intuitive, fluid, musician designed instrument...
    You've obviously developed a good methodical approach to programming it,
    you're clicking buttons faster than i've seen in other videos, demonstrating the unit, so fair play,
    ~ but for me, it looks too visually involving.
    With my 60ii and 2000xl, i obviously use the buttons,
    but i practically fly them blind, unless i'm editing or recording a sound...
    ~ kinda like sequencing, with just tape transport controls...
    perhaps i'm just too old ; )
    ~love to ALL, feel no hate~

    • @Nothingspeshalwaysfresh
      @Nothingspeshalwaysfresh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Coming from MPCs you should most definitely check out a tracker. In fact the learning curve of a tracker can be daunting but the swiftness you get after some repetition can not be duplicated.
      Check out Renoise on your computer and be amazed by sample mangling goodness.
      Also I’m old as hell.. trackers are older than both of us most likely ;)

    • @ToyKeeper
      @ToyKeeper 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Trackers in general are a good thing to try at some point, to learn and to find out how you feel about it... But they're definitely not for everyone. Try a free one, like OpenMPT for example, or try Renoise for even more features, or Schism for a more retro experience. At minimum, it'll at least be interesting... and if no money was spent, it'll be easy to walk away if you don't like it.
      Me, I did tracker music for years and years, but eventually decided it's not my style. I still miss some things about it though.

  • @basspuppy133
    @basspuppy133 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the config menu there is an option you can use to turn off micro-move input when recording, and it'll just quantize it to the step grid without inputting FX data.

  • @chrisantoniou19
    @chrisantoniou19 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, great content Ricky!

  • @robotjeans
    @robotjeans 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What an interesting little device. I will be looking into the Tracker

  • @AOC_dawlesspuzzle
    @AOC_dawlesspuzzle 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very fun video. Thank you Ricky.

  • @pietro5327
    @pietro5327 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    most chill most cool

  • @apoclypse
    @apoclypse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm definitely buying this. I have Renoise Redux which I like but I'm not a fan of the Hex values they use. They are not intuitive at all imo. Here the values are more readable imo. I can tell whats going on by just looking at the screen without even knowing anything about the tracker. I'm definitely buying this at some point.

  • @Infinitychillcheers
    @Infinitychillcheers ปีที่แล้ว

    hey! do you need a midi interface to connect Tracker with DAW? Or is just a midid-USB cable enough? thanks in advance

  • @simondanielssonmusic
    @simondanielssonmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Polyend recently made an update for the tracker which allows for input monitoring, which means you won't need an extra mixer unit.
    You can therefore treat it the same as with the octatrack where it doubles as a "mixer". So cool for a portable setup to just have the polyend tracker and a bass-synth. :)

  • @russelbuck
    @russelbuck 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kind of unrelated, but where did you get your shelf / rack from? 1:29

  • @jliveris711
    @jliveris711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How tight is the Tracker? Has anyone measured the amount of jitter in samples / milliseconds? Or how about the latency when triggered from an external master clock? I'm quite curious about this if anyone knows.

  • @acidtechno
    @acidtechno 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Circle is complete "USB" nonsence , how have you found midi clock lag ? iv got around 7ms delay to my elektron and MPC One , so the Tracker is between 7ms and 8 ms slow when master or slave .. any fix?

  • @syntheticskystudios7325
    @syntheticskystudios7325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ricky, thanks for all the great info on Trackers! They've been a tremendous help with navigating mine. QUESTION: is there somewhere in the Tracker a menu/list that shows all the currently loaded sounds? Or, are the sounds only found in the specific "groups" connected to the artist/project they were loaded by?

  • @KL-tn1xc
    @KL-tn1xc 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the deluge can do more then the tracker for midi sequencing, it pretty much has unlimited mid poly sequences (along side it's internal synth / sampling engine) , it can do odd time signatures and conditional triggers on notes (% chance to trigger, every second third fourth time, etc), all that with an amazing workflow, i bet you'd love it.

  • @Orangetronic
    @Orangetronic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    aaaah i can't wait to get my hands on this thing

  • @peterkadarmusic9728
    @peterkadarmusic9728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Tracker seems interesting but also unnecessarily complicated. The note fill thing was really cool but a lot of the other functions seemed fiddly compared to an MPC or something.
    That Erica Synths Bassline sounds awesome!
    Thanks for the video, Ricky!

    • @sub-jec-tiv
      @sub-jec-tiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s a totally different workflow, it definitely feels weird until you get the muscle memory together. It absolutely is fiddly compared to MPC if you’re using it as a drum machine. But it’s really made to make crazy weird sequences, more so than be a drum machine. It’s a fantastic partner with an MPC. You quickly slam your beats in on the MPC, and make crazy sound design and odd percussion on the tracker. You just end up with sounds you’d never do with a DAW. That’s the value of it

    • @peterkadarmusic9728
      @peterkadarmusic9728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sub-jec-tiv Thanks for sharing your perspective; that's an interesting way to describe your approach. I'll keep that in mind as I watch more videos.

    • @basspuppy133
      @basspuppy133 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Give it a month and it becomes second-nature. I wanted to quit while stumbling with it until i didn't stumble anymore.

  • @alexhakkah
    @alexhakkah 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, can we connect via midi an external synth and take his audio directly in real time in the polyend? I want for example play the song and record an Arpeggiator from my synth simultaneous.. I Imagine its not possible?

  • @fabianruf5310
    @fabianruf5310 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Ricky, great video as usual! what are those stands you have there in the background below the synth? they have a perfect angle :)

  • @RoyalBlue43
    @RoyalBlue43 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    18:43 "I end up going into the micromove, deleting it, and accepting where they've landed"
    Listens for a moment
    "Oh I don't like that"

    • @mixchief
      @mixchief 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is there a way to record without micromove? Also, is there a way to ’mono-record’ to prevent spreading notes to other tracks? (Important purchase-considerations here.)

    • @basspuppy133
      @basspuppy133 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mixchief Yes - there is a menu option

    • @basspuppy133
      @basspuppy133 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mixchief
      Press [Config] to select the settings options.
      2. In the left window, Turn (Jog) to highlight ‘General’.
      3. Press [Right] to select the ‘General’ sub menu.
      4. In the central window sub menu, scroll using (Jog) to select ‘Recording
      Options’. These will determine the quantize for recording:-
      • Only Notes: Quantize notes only.
      • Microtiming: Will record a nudge or offset as it is played by
      recording as a ‘Micro-move’ FX value in the step. Delete these FX to
      revert to quantized values.
      • Velocity: Record velocity at a fixed value with pads. Use an external
      MIDI Keyboard to record in real time velocity values. Velocity is
      recorded as an FX value.
      • Microtiming + Velocity. Record into both FX the fixed velocity and
      real time microtiming values.

  • @EnochDark
    @EnochDark 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious if you encountered a similar issue connecting midi on Cycles. Mine doesn't seem to play well with others...

  • @BaileyHeredge
    @BaileyHeredge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The DB-01 sounds sick just can't really justify buying it when I can create a similar sound with my Peak.
    Lovely stuff though X
    Made that same face at 15:43 too haha

    • @milk_bath
      @milk_bath 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To me, the appeal of the DB-01 is the excellent sequencer interface. I'd say even more-so than the sound.

    • @BobOscuro
      @BobOscuro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@milk_bath the sequencer is awesome!! And this synth sounds amazing... I'm doing a tutorial for the db01 and learning a lot. It's a Deep sequencer With kits of options. A cult modern classic

    • @JamesReedy
      @JamesReedy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bailey Heredge but no sweet dual BBD detune. Have a DB-01, would like to get a Peak tho.

  • @cronenbergj
    @cronenbergj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the DB 01 have Presets (include OSC/Env/Filter settings) or just simple Rhythm
    Patterns ?

  • @leftmono1016
    @leftmono1016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha I spent ages once troubleshooting a Korg Electribe with the wrong 'standard' mini jack midi cable! Happy to note recently that the Elektron Model Cycles lets you switch polarity. Very clever.

  • @benrichey9564
    @benrichey9564 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Ricky! First off, just want to say how much I love your channel. I am new to the electronic world and your style and content has been greatly appreciated. I wanted to ask though, what do you use to record/edit and produce your actual videos?

  • @moogsmiley4157
    @moogsmiley4157 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dood you got a nice smile you should smile more. Thanks for the Polyend tips!

  • @dzaxys4643
    @dzaxys4643 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Used to own the blue korg electribe which was awesome over a big sound system but had exactly the same pop on the kik if you used a filter like that like you said just got to mask it if you can

  • @6or7breadsticks
    @6or7breadsticks 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    at the 1:11 mark you have completely earned the like/sub

  • @beatsbylanstarr
    @beatsbylanstarr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That groove came out nice at the end!

  • @marcusgho2745
    @marcusgho2745 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    FYI. The USB C platform allows the output of either 5V, 9V, 12V and 15V. technically if both output/input device support selection of voltage, u need the correct cable to allow communication between the both to set the correct voltage. Some cable are missing certain wires so it does not allow this advanced voltage selection. They might only keep the standard 5V connection so that is the reason why u cannot power the tracker which might require 12V or 15V. FYI u can fashion a USB C to 12V or USB C to 15V cable from DIY parts. U can get a small chip with a USB C port and the ability to select what voltage output u want. Then u can solder in a power barrel connector and viola, u can have USB C powering almost anything!

  • @dvdgoldberg
    @dvdgoldberg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    are all the sequencing components like chance or program change + cc modulation accesible in the tracker ?

  • @truthseeker3907
    @truthseeker3907 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You Ricky and Thumbs up! :)

  • @20x25
    @20x25 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video!
    Is it possible to play tuplets with the Polyend Tracker?

  • @GREASEONTHESTREETS
    @GREASEONTHESTREETS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m having trouble sequencing my db01 with my digitakt ? Any advice ? Maybe a short video ? I’m going insane a bit

  • @theorize999
    @theorize999 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For that click sound caused by your filter res on the kick... have you tried increasing the release on the cutoff envelope?

  • @finleycoulter7277
    @finleycoulter7277 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there, Great video!
    I have just purchased the Polyend tracker and I'm using the MIDI 3.5mm jack to MIDI DIN adapter (TRS Type B) that came with it so I can midi sync to other gear, however it does not seem to be working. I think I have the same problem as you did. Is there anywhere I can buy the before standard one or Is it just called Type A?

    • @seanmccann595
      @seanmccann595 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The tracker definitely uses MIDI TRS Type B, Type A won't work with it, you can order extra adapters from ebay though, the ones on Amazon are overpriced

  • @ildafons
    @ildafons 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative video, thanks!

  • @leewightman8619
    @leewightman8619 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Iv been using the novation rhythm as a sequencer ...iv figured out i can sequence the Yamaha DJx with it a different sound on each track iv only figured out how to choose different sounds on two tracks and that was by mistake so im assuming i can use all the tracks but not sure how to set up the parameters

  • @604Yarks
    @604Yarks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question regarding the adapter issue. Is that simply a firmware fix for Polyend, or do we have to buy a "non standard" adapter to connect the midi?

    • @irnybru
      @irnybru 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would like to know this as well, I'm getting really confused as to what I'll need to buy to get it to work

    • @604Yarks
      @604Yarks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Update: with the latest firmware update mine is connecting just fine with the cable it comes with

    • @irnybru
      @irnybru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@604Yarks sweet! i'l give it a shot

  • @davidpickett3546
    @davidpickett3546 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do I need another midi adaptor and not the one supplied with tracker..?

  • @nobel11
    @nobel11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That midi trs adapter thing is so annoying. I'm glad Polyend included one with it, and so far I haven't gotten it mixed up with the other ones, but I also have a Korg one, an Alesis one, and a midi interface for the Sega Genesis, and remembering which is which is an unnecessary nuisance. I suppose it's not a huge problem, but when you've got a good flow going, stopping to mess with wires is always a pain.

  • @vertitis
    @vertitis 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can set your volume of notes sent over midi.(Should work on Polyend tracker aswell)
    Not sure if there's a setting for aftertouch cutoff function during live record.
    But polyend should surely add that. And probably will, if they continue to update the device.

  • @glooms691
    @glooms691 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You think they will add more Midi CCs than the 5 for the whole project in future updates ?

  • @Sklang32
    @Sklang32 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Boss Ricky what is your opinion of the versitilization of using the polyend tracker vs the new mpc one to make abstract 7/4 7/8 breakcore beats? I've seen the menu dive to utilize so called parameter locks on the mpc one but how is it on the polyend? Thanks for reading...
    Cheers.

    • @444levels9
      @444levels9 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      doesn't the mpc allow you to make any pattern whatever time signature you want, and the tracker does not if I'm not mistaken?

    • @basspuppy133
      @basspuppy133 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can set the number of steps in any pattern to whatever length you want up to 128. Using this you can effectively change time signatures at will with some basic maths. You can also set a global time-signature per project.

  • @llorenzo582
    @llorenzo582 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Ricky, Polyend tracker or Novation Circuit Rhythm, who wins? 😊

  • @Selfpowered
    @Selfpowered 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff Ricky, I'm just getting back into production after several years away and all this stuff is super inspiring. Would you recommend the tracker? I'm trying to talk myself out of buying one. (I started making music on software trackers in my teens so the format is pretty familiar to me)

  • @LostStylus
    @LostStylus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6^38 how did you start it playing without the screen moving with the currently selected line?

    • @londonps6751
      @londonps6751 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Screen doesn’t move when in record mode, it’s green and moves you turn record off

  • @nickskywalker2568
    @nickskywalker2568 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Rick, what's your job at Novation? Nice piece of music by the way, the combo tracker+bassline is quite appealing.

  • @hoagy_ytfc
    @hoagy_ytfc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    USB is such a mess of a “standard”

    • @twotgfltandahalf
      @twotgfltandahalf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Eh... non-standards-compliant cables and devices makes it a mess. With up to 5A over 20V (100W) you kind of want to be a bit careful, and both ends could potentially be a power consumer and a power provider... well. I don't think the Tracker would like that. The Mac, correctly, decides it do not know the capabilities of the other end and does nothing, for all it cares, it could be a powerline for all it knows. The C->A + A->C adapter combo turns the connection into a USB Base-line connection, and the Mac decides it is safe to at least give it a little 5V

    • @abstractmodule4574
      @abstractmodule4574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True. I think they forgot the "Universal" part.

    • @xani666
      @xani666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It just got so complex (especially with USB-PD) that basically every implementation out there have some kinds of bugs

    • @illford
      @illford 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@xani666 well that's because it's just a specification for connectors and protocols, data transfer is a lot to do with the cable

  • @xisotopex
    @xisotopex 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what a cool little box, just wish it was a normal midi sequencer in the same form factor, screen, and not a tracker. I remember moving from trackers to ableton live, and never once wanted to relive them...

  • @Malfunkn
    @Malfunkn ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it also support midi CC or just notes?

  • @SHINdanny
    @SHINdanny 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    11:01 ...never forget to close that manual, the results, if it remains open, might be unsound

  • @mickpattison7489
    @mickpattison7489 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s all about the golden handshake.

  • @Highfiber123
    @Highfiber123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great tech content! Thanks!

  • @JackMyersPhotography
    @JackMyersPhotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that midi issue something that can be addressed in a firmware upgrade? Perhaps it already was addressed in the more recent final upgrade?

  • @matthewtunnicliffe201
    @matthewtunnicliffe201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Im waiting for mine to arrive so watching your demonstrations on the Tracker has been very helpful. Can I ask, when you faked the side-chain did it affect the midi instrument or just the samples?

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe it was just the samples :)

    • @matthewtunnicliffe201
      @matthewtunnicliffe201 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RickyTinez I thought so. Thanks Ricky. You've been doing some cool stuff with it. Looking forward to mine.

  • @gooneybird808
    @gooneybird808 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So dope...can you do a set with the polyend tracker? As in transition to other patterns or song modes?

  • @markorendas1790
    @markorendas1790 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I WAS RECORDING NEUTRON EARLIER AND IT WAS QUITE SIMILAR TO THE PART YOU DAID HAD THE MICRO CLIP PART TOO. I KIND OF JUST LEFT IT IN THERE AS A MICRO TONE ARTIFACT. ALSO DONT AL AYS CARE TO QUANTIZE TOO MUCH. SOMETIMES ODD POLYRHYTHMS CAN BE MOTE INTERESTING TO ME. NEAT VID. ALWAYS ENJOY. GREAT INFO AND ENTHUSIASM...!

  • @mastaboog749
    @mastaboog749 ปีที่แล้ว

    just snagged one of these from a bud who's upgrading to a tracker mini, now i need to order a dang non standard trs midi cable.