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- 2025 Audi A5 and S5...what happened?!
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please take a look to the new BMW SERIE 1. what a messsss!!!!!!
The word, "nomenclature" refers to the method used to name their products. In Audi's case, how we know the difference between A5, A6 or A5 or S5.
Why comparing the new S5 to the old RS5. Additionally I think you should even compare it to the A4 / S4
Yes, specially since it replaces the S4, the A4 is going to be EV, the same would go for the A6 and A7 (this is really bad).
@@FacuGonz3 it’s at least confusing - I don’t get why they did it and didn’t go the BMW way and made an A4 Tfsi and an A4 Etron
@@car_photographic It's weird they got rid of the A5 as it was, I could understand if it was the 2 door version (Mercedes Benz got rid of the C Class coupe) but the Sportback? They could have Made the Sportback a plug in hybrid or EV and make the A4 a new gen too but with this V6. It seems they want to shrink their lineup or just making things more complex.
@@car_photographicyea lol
@@FacuGonz3 from what I now it was the plan to shrink the lineup but it’s sad and somewhat makes Audi as a premium brand less premium. I mean there is not a single cabriolet from Audi anymore
Personally, I like it. I feel some people, love to hate on stuff because they see others hating on it. I have no words. I like it and think the interior looks amazing. My only nitpick is the passenger screen. I feel like that's unnecessary, but it's not a dealbreaker for me. The headlights look stunning, taillights look more modern, which was very much needed, the grill is a good size. I have no complaints.
Agreed I love it. interior looks really good to me
I agree with you that people love to hate and that this is overall a pretty good looking car. I will say though the interior is hyper generic and that passenger screen is a mess. I mean there is really no difference visually between car interiors any more but if I saw a Jetta with this interior I wouldn’t bat an eye.
I hate that they got rid of the climate buttons.
Butthurt owner of a crappy audi detected
This is why the a4 has always been the loser in sales of the trio c class and 3 series it's always the inferior product of the trio
@@Rapido20Pathetic loser who forces their opinion on other people
I really don't understand why car manufacturers put these giant screens all over the dashboard to submerge the driver with information while cellphones are one of the main causes of accidents
Because ultra-wide screen is cheap when you order a lot. It make the the car interior simple and reduce a lot of complex tooling construction when making the mold of dashboard.
It is obvious. Trends. If you come with a car with a 10 inch screen and an overload of buttons, the actual market will ignore the car save for a few enthusiasts and some older folks that only want a car and no tech. I sometimes feel like you lot want cars to stay the same forever. They obviously won't. You cannot sell with that old conservative mindset anymore. 100% Kodak mentality if you think that doing the same old over and over will help sales.
Even Toyota is doing bigger screens now. It is just how it is. You need to show that your brand is not dated and stuck in the past. If you think that developing a good functioning system is cheaper than just making some plastic buttons that will wear out and fade in 10-15 years? Come on. Dacia has small screen with almost no features and loads of buttons still. I highly doubt they are spending more money than Audi with big OLED screens and considering all the development it cost them.
@@CyAn-S I get it, I know it’s because of market trends and cost cutting. I’m just saying that it’s very counterintuitive to promote basically giant ipads all over the cockpit while at the same time there are laws that prohibit the use of cellphones while driving. It’s one of the many controversies of the modern world
You’ll understand once you need reading glasses.
why are you comparing it with the old S5 when AUDI clearly stated its an A4 replacement... You should have compared it with the old A4
It for sure feels like if the A4 and A5 had a baby. Would have been good to also include an A4 comparison, you are right.
A5 sportback is the more like for like comparison though?. Afterall, the a4 and a5 are basically the same car in a different shell. They’re only saying it’s an a4 replacement to spell it out for current a4 owners that will be looking for a replacement
This is the combination of current 4 and 5, which means it will be the replacement of both. They have no known plans of introducing another coupe/ more sportback version that some ppl want to be the A5/S5 replacement
Because it’s a replacement for both older A4 AND A5. And it obviously looks like the previous A5/S5 sportback.
What
Sorry to say, but this car is done well. Somehow beautiful put together and nowhere near the vulgarity of BMW. Greetings from an industrial designer
I hope you're talking only about the exterior. Otherwise you should find a new job.
@@betterbeavailable Interior is fine and finally 2024 not 1984.
Is it just me or does the new tighter grille look much nicer than the old one.?
just you and 9 others
Not me. Old one is much better
I like it too. The newer nose has much more focus on drag reduction, and as an aeronautical engineer, thag looks aesthetically better to me.
I prefer it over the old A5 actually, and in my opinion, its a huge jump from the current A4 it replaces.
How wouldn't it be the current crappy a4 (a souped up Jetta) was released 9 years ago
@@Rapido20I have an A4 and it's anything but a "souped up" Jetta, but hey you're the VAG expert right?
Agreed. The new A5 is so nice. Love the look. Such a huge jump from the A4
@@Rapido20 I own a 2017 Audi A4 Sport TFSI, it's anything but a Jetta lol. Not even based on the same platform, it's an MLB Evo platform which is shared across the A4, A6, A8! And even the Urus. I've driven a Jetta and it's by far the most boring pos I've ever seen, dull, boring interior etc. My Audi feels 2 classes ahead in terms refinement and quality.
@@Rapido20 "A souped up Jetta"? Dude is literally comparing an actual Ingolstadt product with multilink, four wheel drive, longitudinal engine Audi with a Jetta that is made in Mexico. lol
Brooo
When i saw this new A5, i got the same reflection of buying old models
Car designing is in jeopardy, both interior and exterior
What the heck. The new A5 is quite good looking though. Audi is not going the same BMW or Merc route, at least for now and the next several years.. But the new design is still pretty good.. The old one is also incredibly good honestly
@@subieasunayuuki It look fat in the side view and the back
The light bar became sooo generic
And let's not even talk about interiors
@@z.k.r2615 Older audi interiors were bland and plasticky with bad tech and poor UI. Idk why enthusiasts are such fans of it.
I actually kinda like it
Same my first thoughts from: the thumbnail
Naah looks cheaper and more soft
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I like it too
The new A5 is the predecessor to the A4
You mean successor
Wrong, the A4 is the predecessor to the new A5.
So what is the successor of A5
Go look up what 'predecessor' means homie, you need to stay in school.
The new a5 is replacing both the old A4 and a5. Odd numbers for ICEs and even numbers for EVs
The previous a5 and s5 will stay the most beautiful Audi in the whole line up in my point of view. I think that car was the most sexy car I ever saw. And I still think the same no matter how many generations will come
ever see a Porsche Speedster or GT3 touring?
Very safe design but no complaints from me. Looks good
7:43 the old one is simply a piece of art ✨
I agree the B8 generation was the best, it was so smooth, elegant and timeless. These new generations with their sharp lines and screens will age like sour milk. Just look at the Korean cars, each previous generation looks like they're ten years older than they are.
This really depends on what future cars look like, which means this could have the opposite effect and age fine.
I like the new design to be honest, a little bit more organic, still in Audi DNA
I agree with you about the monstruous screen inside
When I’m driving I don’t need that screen
The old A5/S5 was one of the most beautiful cars out there with those lines. A4/S4 was one of the most plain.
This brings up A4 and A5 down.
Not a surprise that the best designed Audi was the one made by the Italian Walter De Silva, former Alfa Romeo Chief of Design...
It looks 100% better than the a4 sedan. Maybe the previous a5 was a bit more stately but this is a beautiful car in my opinion
Interior looks so so cheap, it looks like a VW Golf. Exterior is better but still prefer the old one overall.
Old a5 interior looked extremely cheap, and the new one is an improvement overall.
Apart from this horrendous black piano trim aka "costs cutting"@@ii_dynasty
@@ii_dynastyit’s not.
@Delvy787 it does. Honestly, it's very honda accord looking.
Exterior I prefer the new one
Interior I prefer the old one for miles
I can’t agree with you more. This screen situation is completely out of hand.
As for the design- if you pay Audi money, you don’t want people mistaking it for a Kia
The passenger screen is only optional!
Stop your idiotic ranting about things, which don't even exist, dude! You don't have to choose the passenger screen!
A lot of hysterically total out of control Americans are very strange people.... Oh yeah.... I almost forgot Trump. You are really out of control, dear Americans!
Greetings from Germany!
The Kia/Hyundai designer was an Audi designer... before.
Gonna have to disagree with this one. This car is gorgeous. And why are you comparing an RS5 to the current S5?
Agree! This is actually the first Audi sedan I would consider buying in a long time.
This guy is a very strange and hysterical person. His ranting about the new Audi A5 design is ridiculous and totally annoying!
His critizism really makes no sense at all for 99%. I don't understand this guy.
His annoyingly dumb ranting about the cool and modern looking curved screens.... Oh my god!
EVERY new car has big screens, and 99% of car customers nowadays are even critizicing new cars with only smaller screens.
Tesla started this huge screen thing, and every carmaker did the same thing. You can't stop progress.
There can be only one opinion: both versions of the new A5 look amazing! There's almost no flaw in all the many design details of these two car versions.
The A5 Avant design is PERFECT!
Greetings from Germany!
@@user-jf8gd3lv7qhis content is basically just hating lmao. Hating on stuff gives you the most views.
@@user-jf8gd3lv7q hahaha totally agree, car manufacturers need to give the consumers what they want. I mean apple had the iPhone mini and didn't sell. People wanted the bigger screens and apple geave the consumers the iPhone plus. So why assume car customers aren't demanding the bigger screens?...I don't get that complaint.
Same feelings. Exterior is not bad. Interior is extremely bad. I dont get that thing with those big screens. This is a car...not a movie theater.
Those car makers are making their friends design the cars. We should appreciate the old cars now because now the old cars looks so much beautiful than the new cars.
Additionally, the S5 Avant was spotted testing in the US with US spec side markers and US license plate mounting points. Food for thought, I haven't given up hope of getting a S avant again
Maybe they are planning for an Allroad version
@@chezzyperson3339s5 allroad would be fun
and one can always paint the US side markers to match the exterior!
I hope I HOPE car manufactor gonna jump into "retro" trend, bring back old looking cars, a bit different design and upgraded
Isn‘t nomenclature a commonly used word?
English isn’t his first language
@@epicswirl it is not mine too but it is an universal word. In my language (totally different from English) is "Nomenklatura". Embarrasing.
This makes me love my 2016 TTS even more.
Even with its singular screen that is the Virtual Cockpit, it has a very cozy feel (even at night). It’s customizable and I can give it a more classic layout that isn’t distracting.
Although these new Audis aren’t really my cup of tea, at least they’re not all crossover SUVs.
Long live sedans, coupes, and wagons 🙌❤️
It's a sedan that has a liftback, nothing too complicated. Wich all sedans should have, otherwise the trunk is useless, and then everybody will complain that family sedans are not selling comparing to SUV's. Audi is doing a good job with this one.
F those screens. I am sick and tired of that!
Then you will never buy any new car ever haha. Just stick to the old ones, no one is stopping you
@@rb3431 it feels like you're okay with those screens. I'm just curious, how old are you? Genuinely curious. Because based on the statistics new car buyers are the age of 50 plus. Those bimbos with absolutely no taste dictate what our next car will look like? As if destroying the economy wasn't enough for them.
It is how it is. Not going to change anytime soon. You cannot release a premium car with a tiny screen anymore in 2024. Even lexus has some 15 inch thing now.
Vulgar Display of Power was a great Album😂
Bembli, your videos are always on point and so informative! By the way, here’s the definition for nomenclature:
nomenclature … is at its simplest the task of assigning a name to each distinct species
This guy is comparing a B9.5 S5 and a B9 RS5 at the same time to the new B10. He doesn’t even know he’s comparing two different generation and different cars lmao.
The interior he’s comparing the B10 S5 to is the old interior 😭.
I like the exterior design and I like the S with the V6! Glad they didn't fit a smaller engine! 😃 RS versions will look very good...
The interior is definitely a step backwards.
Personally, I think this new generation looks great! The screen infotainment and gauge cluster is something I was hoping to NOT see, but I’m glad the 3rd passenger screen is optional (to remove it). Overall, the exterior design is refreshing to me, but I’m more excited for the RS5 than the A5 and S5
I knew Audi was gonna smack massive screens in the car….. I won’t be surprised if Porsche does the same thing gigantic wide screen
Since it’s all VW, you know it’ll happen soon 😭😭😭
They all are following the Taycan design language. It is seen in the new Panamera and Macan, and in the facelifted Cayenne.
0:15 "In 80% of design changes that are made, I don't like the new design".
Could it be age? Maybe that's because your reference of beauty lies in the past, and current designers are simply younger than you.
I think the exterior is a huge upgrade. It feels so refreshing and modernized. I like the squished grill cuz in combination with the lower part + side "vents" looks more dynamic and aggressive. The interior on the other hand... meh
2024 S5 on order in anticipation of this video
Yup, doesn’t look like these giant screens are going anywhere for a while. I thought if enough people complained they might tone it down and bring back physical buttons, but no, it only gets worse
I like It, better design than bmw and merc
BMW and Merc are still working on the new 3 and C-Class.
The standard 3 series is a good looking car. The C-Class was forgettable as it didn't look much different to the other MB sedans.
@@richardlabeja I agree i like the current 3 series
That's not a lot these days 😂.
The new design is a tragedy 😢
No one is calling the new A5 “vulgar”. Audi have replaced 6 different models with 2, dropping 4 models which didn’t sell well, and I think an A5 sport back, plus an avant option is definitely the best they could have picked. I think this looks gorgeous.
2035 A5 concept just released. No more windshield, just another screen that shows whats in front of you.
It will be interesting to see how many of those new ICE cars will still be around in 10-15 years.
I hope not, EVs are the way.
eww
Finally, Audi now looks like an old Ford Mondeo
Car designs now: huge grille, squinty headlights and taillights, huge iPad slapped onto the centre console and driver's display. Zero creativity.
I own a A4 2018 and I totally agree with everything you said. I didnt fall in love with this new one.
I love the look of the new A5, looks beautiful. But too much screens inside sticking up....
It kinda looks like a 4 series gran coupe from the front because of the headlight shape
It looks like the last gen A5 and the q8 e-tron had a baby 😂😂
I find It interesting when I see so many people complain about "too many screens" In the latest cars. The general consumer actually wants these screens. They like the tech, they absolutely love the passenger display, and they love all the new goodies that come with having a modern interior (cooled seats, ambient lighting, etc).
Trust me, the people that want a ton of buttons and HATE "screens" are a very loud/vocal MINORITY. Regardless, people will have their opinions. I personally think the new B10 Audi interior is lightyears ahead of the current B9 and I own a B9.5 RS5.
Why the heck does the passenger need a screen?? My wife just sits in her phone. Screen not needed there at all
This is very similar to mercedes combining the C and E Class Coupe. This is technically the replacement for the A4, but they're adding some of the A5 into it.
I am working as probramer in lab company. I sit in front of screen every day. Even I am no in work I still wanna play GW2 or other games but when I go to car I wanna fucking rest from it I dont want to go form one fucking gaming room to another with steering wheel.
Do people really hate on this car? I find it so beautiful, last 5-6 years none of the new audis had any appeal to me, A5 was a catastrophe when compared to the first gen A5 which still is to this day one of the most beautiful Audis ever made.
I bought the 2014 Facelift of the first generation and it feels to me like it’s design wise the best
12:48 there is literally no curvature on the top part of the Mercedes, its straight line on top, the curvature is on the bottom lol
Nomenclature means naming.
A1 A3 A4....
I believe Audi nomenclature will go like this: even numbers EV and odd numbers ICE
To be fair, the new A5 has the front headlights from a BMW and the taillights from a Mercedes... The style is very clean, especially from the side, but the interior is a big mess of screens. I do not like new digital interiors, I prefer more analog stuff. Remember when Audi integrated the temp display inside the climate control vents? That was super sleek! Why can't they replicate something like that, I mean it's ok to add some screens, but interiors don't have to be all about those.
I like it, I'm excited for it, but I appreciate and respect your take.
I love your comment, sir. If only we all expressed ourselves in a manner such as yours.
To be fair, putting a s5 next to a RS5 in terms of comparison n still having the new generation look even half as good is refreshing, that's a beautiful car, bring the narrow bodied S5 from the previous Generation, I wanna see something 🥱
the new front and side are really nice i think. the back lights are EQS like old one much nicer. the screens inside are a deal breaker tho
I own a 2020 A5 premium s-line coupe and I 100% agree with your commentary, feels like they sold out big time with these 2025 changes. So happy with with my 2020, can't imagine getting rid of it, just the right blend of tech of car
The new one just looks like a ford fusion
The new A5 design is much better than the old!
I have a 2018 manual A4 S-Line. It has analog dials and the interior is perfect. Plus the manual is fun to drive.
I have a B9.5 rs5 sportback,never going to sell it after seeing this thing
„Chamfer“ mentioned in this video: 2 times
That dash is almost a copy of the Chevy Blazer EV's dash 🤣🤣🤣
Whatever that junk is.
Audi’s interiors were perfect at late 00’s and early 10’s. I don’t know if I’m a dinasour at 40 or car companies’ consumer surveys justify these kind of designs. But come on, that screen and cheap steering wheel…
I really like the design, looks mean.
Incredible, you picked up all points which I talked before about. Again you nailed it imo, always saying the first A5 facelift is the best of them all and one of the best coupé designs from german manufacturers all time. Keep it running Bembli
Tactile dials are so peak you can never make me pick screens over it
I do agree that the interior screens look a bit too large. Maybe I will change my mind if I get to sit in one. However, the exterior is much better than the outgoing S5 in my opinion.
I need to say i think that the audio rear lightbar looks way better then Mercedes
When a semi educated person publicly complain about something is always embarrassing.
Nomenclature is an international word and VERY much related to car naming.
You compare the old RS5 with the new S5 when the new RS5 isnt even out yet… comparing a S with an RS isnt fair
I think new design is so much better than the old one... Old one is sort of "work in progress", if you will.... Now with new model, the iteration is complete...
This feels like you just don’t like Audi. I think this car looks great. I’m definitely upgrading
RS5 vs S5… You’re telling on yourself homie
Yup he compared the B9 interior to the B10 instead of the B9.5 interior. Bro should have redone this video.
Not a fan of this redesign 👎
The reason the A4 is cool is because the S4 was cool from 2001. Now there is no car in their lineup that is inspired by that iconic S4z having a hatchback is a liability
With my eyesight I prefer larger screens. The passenger screen is optional and can be turned off so I don’t know what the problem with that is.
I do kinda like it. But the bar is pretty low as long I don't have to look at split headlights!
Headlight, taillights and the hofmeister kink aside, from the side it looks like a 4 series to me
I think its a beautiful design and i think it looks better than the old one
My mom was complaining to me about this she licenses Audi a5 coupe now she has to do a different one but she likes the old ones better
I wish Audi would publish photos of the interior without the passenger screen, as I understand it’s optional and I’m not a fan.
Walter da Silvas design was gorgeous. Still regret selling my 2009 S5. Bullet proof future classic. Even 2003 S4 avant (that I still have) is much more beautiful and unique.
100% agree on the digital screens too . Too much.
Inspired by kia ?!
"what happened?!" is accurate.
I think its the best designed audi in years. Smaller grille, more like the best audis when they were building them around the 2000 years.
In my opinion, Sportbacks are simply sedans that have a hatch instead of a traditional trunk. I also like the design of the new A5/S5. But I have to agree with the interior. I don't know what the big three German brands are doing nowadays but to me the interiors of Mercs, BMWs, and now Audis lack any sort of personality. I will say that the new Audi interior is probably the one I'm the least bothered by when compared to Mercedes and BMW's latest interiors, but I still don't think it's all that great. The last-gen Audi interiors felt more contemporary than this.
Sad that they killed the two door A5, S5, RS5 :/
I appreciate the new editing effects throughout the video, and congrats on getting a sponsor!
You your so spot-on. Thank you
I hate the interior, that huge screen looks awful
so this is a passat basically