My 2016 blew the engine at 40k miles. Replaced all gaskets, injectors, timing belt, water pump, all while Under warranty, but now im paranoid going anywhere with it. Before that the touch screen was replaced due to an issue. Owning this car has made me somewhat of a J35 expert, currently looking at defeating the VCM system to help avoid the engine stress. Total warranty repairs were close to $15k. Watching that class action in the US, hoping that crosses into Canada as well.
You are crazy if you don’t replace the timing belt if your wife drives the car on the interstate. I don’t want my wife breaking down if I can help it. Plus you destroy the engine if it breaks
Let me tell you this video is pure gold, I like how he shares his experience with the Pilot, I want one in the incoming years, but I dont like to do so many maintainance, so maybe I should think more about getting one, anyways I saw all the video and I feel this is a genuine owner review, so thanks for all the honesty and clear information I really appreciate it.
Thank you for your review! I have a 2019 Honda Ridgeline RTL, which has essentially the same engine and transmission as the Pilot. I currently have about 64,000 miles on it. I did have the transmission shuttering shortly after 50,000 miles. After seeing what it was by watching another TH-cam video, I had my local mechanic change the transmission fluid. That fixed it! It was suggested that I change the fluid around every 20,000 miles. So I plan to do that. Another Ridgeline owner did not change the fluid, and ruined the transmission. I do not know why Honda does not communicate this! I also just found out that spark plugs should be changed every 60,000 miles. So I will be getting that done at the next oil change coming up. I did have a small leak in my AWD transfer case recently. That cost $1,000 to fix that! Otherwise, it's been a great riding truck with sideways opening tailgate and in-bed trunk. I would buy it again. By the way, I don't get those maintenance reminders. How can I view those?
I agree with you about the fuel injectors. As for the timing belt kit replacement- most reputable independent shops will do it for under $1,500 in most places, using quality parts. Also, you don’t have to “tear apart the engine” to replace the timing kit - you just have to remove the timing cover. The parts bolt onto the side of the engine.
I own a 2016 Honda Pilot and I'm surprised with the known issues it has, including the fuel injectors. It was replaced for free under extended warranty. The driveshaft went out, the start stop button was replaced, the hood had a reinforcement plate installed, the 9 speed transmission had a software update, and after 7 years it had the timing belt and water pump replaced. However, it is a well finished, specious and comfortable vehicle.
Transmission oil change (drain and fill only) on Honda vehicle is very critical. I owned Civic, Odessey, HR-V and Fit. They are good vehicles. But you have to be on top of maintenance or thing will break down prematurely. Great tips, Mario!
I bought a 2013 Touring model with 230K miles. Yeah I know it's high, but the service history is amazing on it. 15 pages of services on Carfax and the same on Honda website. All local Honda dealers. I can verify all the services on Honda website. Nothing was missed and had 2 timing belt and parts changed already. One thing I noticed is the a lot of transmission/trans axle/diff fluid changes at the dealer. I though to myself, maybe the owner was a sucker for the service advisor. But as I get to know more about this I can fully understand. Last change of the trans fluid has been 20K ago from when I bought it. I ordered the DW-1 fluid, 10 Quarts, and will do that myself. I am an advanced DIY. I come to Honda from Toyota, and I have seen Toyotas go150K on original trans fluid, so it is surprising the ridiculous low miles for trans service on this.
We are the original owner of a 2012 Honda Pilot now @ 156,000 miles, timing belt, water pump etc replaced @ 115,000 miles, 1-set of brakes, alternator replaced, on my 3rd set of tires (Michelins they are great) this vehicle has been problem free just needs required maintenance! Sounds like some of the newer models such as this 2019 are more problematic, similar to most new vehicles of the last 10 years!
I have a 2016 pilot and it literally took 15 min to change the trans fluid and no filter to change. Highly recommend changing it yourself and save money
13 RDX here, I believe we have same engine and tranny. This car loves its tranny drain and fills no more than every 15K miles. I might even do sooner. Oil changes every 3K miles. I do all myself. Timing belt was done at 90K miles or so by a Honda tech friend I am blessed to have, and just did plugs at just past 100K miles. RDX currently at 110K miles. We have owned this car since 77K miles. Fun comfy car. Don’t risk your engine over timing belt. Get it done and take care of the car and it will take care of you.
I have a 2016, 6 speed. Everything you said so far. Is extremely accurate. Don't forget our pilots are now under investigation for major rod bearing issues with our engines. Potentially it can call if not most vehicles soon. Hopefully so
My 2019 Pilot, Touring, bought new, now with 68,000 miles has had one transmission fluid change/fill at 40,000 miles. No issues with the transmission at all... Will do this again at 80,000 miles...
@@daveroski yes. has the push button console for shifting, So far, all good. Can get up to an honest 30MPG from time to time, regularly in the 24-26 range.. I think impressive for the V6 engine/transmission... .
@ yeah. I have a 2021 Honda ridgeline. Pretty much same vehicle. But don’t get the greatest gas mileage. I disabled the auto stop start and the vvt so that has something to do w it.
After watching your video, I'm even more convinced we may have got a lemon. Let me tell you about it and maybe you have some advice. 2020 Honda Pilot EX purchased in November 2019, 100k miles. I haven't done most of my maintenance myself but found your channel due to transmission issues going on currently (hard shifts mostly, holding gear for longer, and maybe a little power loss). We have replaced a pressure switch in the transmission at about 50k miles and done all the recalls. The TSB last year for the MOST connectors finally seemed to fix our entertainment system - no complaints since. We're on our second set of brakes on the front and 3rd set on the rear (just had to do those recently about 95k miles.) Our biggest gremlin and ongoing problem is the LIDAR system and functions that use it. Our adaptive cruise control brakes for cars in the lane to the left of us and frequently does not detect cars in our own lane. The car often warns me of a collision (by flashing lights and vibrating the steering wheel) when cars are approaching me on two lane roads (nearly all or driving is on two lane roads.). Dealer says the system is "within spec". Any ideas on how to adjust that?? Would love to see a video on the differential drain and refill. Also your opinion on using another brand of ATF instead of the Honda stuff. Would also love to see the video if you end up doing that timing belt change yourself.
@@alece9697 it’s possible that you might need some additional work. I always used the Honda ATF, but not sure if it’s truly needed. Glad the MOST cables are fixed. It was such a pain for me.
I owned 3 new Hondas back in the 80-90s. Put a combined total of 200,000+ miles on them and did nothing but change oil every 3000 miles. Quality seems to have gone away or your vehicle is a victim of all the electrical “features” of newer vehicles. I would sell that before you’re forced to replace the transmission.
My dad owns two hondas, civic and pilot. He's spent a lot of money for replacing parts for years just like this guy, but worse since he's not maintaining the cars by himself. This isn't a new car problem. It's been like that all the time.
Had a 2017 and 2019 Ridgeline with the same tranny. Drove them both to about 70k and never changed the transmission fluid once nor did I have any issues with it. I have since owned a 2021 and now 2024 which have the 9 spd. No issues or oil change done on my 2021 either.
@ I think they made it better. No phantom breaking but sensors still go off a little but not as often when I meet other vehicles on regular single lane roads.
I would be pissed if I had to spend that much on a vehicle to keep it running. Would you recommend it, after paying so much to keep it running with all the issues? In 140k for our 2019 Traverse we never replaced brakes, or a light bulb and paid less than $250 in total “repairs”. Our transmission fluid was replaced at 90k and we did our first tune up at 100k. That’s it. Our 2019 Traverse has gone 50k with ZERO issues besides 1 recall. We still haven’t replaced the transmission fluid, or had any repairs or issues.
The shudder is a common issue on the 6 speed transmissions, not the 9 speed. Have had no issue with mine, 105,000 miles. My local dealer quotes a timing belt replacement at less than $1200.
Constant limited slip torque converters cook the friction inhibitors fairly quickly so when you have this technology in your transmission you need to change that fluid frequently , especially if you do a lot of city driving in the warmer locations.
We have a 2019 Touring 2WD and haven't had all your issues. Our Pilot just hit 100k miles. We just replaced the timing belt at the dealer for about $1200. My biggest gripe is it is on its 3rd battery. Also, we have only done the ATF every 30K miles with no noticeable issues as you have described. We also had a radio popping issue that was repaired under warranty.
I have a 2019 with 77,000 and just replaced the battery for the first time. Make sure you are getting the AGM battery and not a standard battery, if you didn't it will not last.
I have a Honda crv 2004, 2L petrol 180,000 miles, no major problems over 5 years, but I have had done reinforced wheel arches, sills, this car is bullet proof, it's towed up mountains, pulled cars from beaches etc etc, travelled all around Europe in it and I live in it 😁🤜🤛respect
You had a LOT of issues with your car. I'd sell the car if I were you ... immediately. I own both a2016 and a 2017 Pilot and they both run great. I'm just changing the oil every 3-5,000 miles. I've also replaced the tires and brakes on both cars. That's it. Now, I can't STAND the transmission on the 2017. I hate it. the 2016 is "ok", but the transmission isn't the best . Most timing belts easily last to 150,000. Mine broke on my old CRX, but I was at 200,000. I love Hondas. All they do is run :)
Good video thanks. I have a 2018 Pilot that has been in service 6 times for code p2101 affecting the throttle body and now drive train modules. I am now being told it needs a new transmission at 55K miles. Limp mode 4 times and had I towed to dealer twice. Engaged with Honda America now.
I a have a 2019 exl res but the 2wd. I use a google tv for the screen. My rear entertainment was my issue. The cable in the back was reconnected and I’ve been good since. I replace my trans fluid every 30k. Oil at 20 percent. Never left me stranded. I don’t get the shutter ever and I’ve gone over the 30k. Just did the 100k and replaced plugs, all fluids, front control arms, sway bar links, timing belt, serpentine belt and bunch of other things at the dealership $4500 for everything. I’m at 97k. I don’t want to gamble. Good luck
2005 Honda pilot with like 230k miles on it. Still kicking. Recently had an intersection with a deer which has inspired us to check out the newer models. Treacherous, indeed.
2004 Honda Pilot owner here. 200,000 miles and no major issues. My favorite vehicle. oil change regular, timing belt done at 100k and 200k miles. Just a little rusty paint on top of hood, side of body is still good. Tire rotation from good year for free because I brought tires three years ago.
You have a 2004 that’s pretty reliable. I think this video is about 17-22 which have been notoriously have bad trannys and emissions/fuel system issues
Im giving my 2014 Honda Pilot to my son, with 190 thousand miles, with requital maintance done, and now looking for a used Honda Pilot, my mechanic said to avoid the six speed transmission, and look for one with the nine speed.
2020 pilot touring and driven 94000 miles. I’m the only owner. Those fluid maintenance are pricey. Just done trans fluid drain and fill and brake fluid and it was $500 and $300 respectively. I didn’t have any of those issues you had. I had the infotainment static and popping noise but has been corrected by recall. Next up is the timing belt and spark plug service. Might have to find a local mechanic to do those.
I have the 2019 exl 6 speed.love it jusy finished the tining belt and other stuff required at 105k miles. Feels brand new hood for another 100k miles with regular maintenance
Have a 2005 Honda Pilot with 278k miles, timing belt changed 2 twice. I get coupons from dealerships for oil changes, tire rotation. Most maintenance by mobile techs still strong.
On the advice of Scotty Kilmer I don't rotate my tires any more. Actually I only did it for the one car I bought new. Never noticed any uneven wear patterns. Most of my 40 or so cars I never touched my tranny fluid. Some went as high as 260,000 miles. Never any trouble. Once again, on my one new car I've changed it twice, now have 160,000. But I don't drain and fill. I change it all. Would you only change half your oil? Get rid of that money pit.
Before replacing those fuel injectors did you try cleaning them first with fuel injector cleaner? Techron fuel additive comes to mind. In your case since you haven't been cleaning your injectors regularly at every oil change you would have to add a whole bottle to a quarter tank of gas. Or put 2 or 3 bottles per tank and keep doing that until things are running smoothly. You might not have needed new injectors. They might have simply needed cleaning. People call stuff like "Techron" fuel additive snake oil, but it does work. The FTC would have had these products pulled from the shelves years ago if it was a scam. If you used fuel injector cleaner every 5,000 miles that would have cost a whole lot less money then $1,200 for new fuel injectors at 100,000 miles. I'm guessing you never used HEET fuel additive that removes water from the fuel tank with easier engine starts in the cold of winter? Water in the fuel causes metal to corrode and could have caused your fuel injectors to corrode out way too soon.
I have a 2020 honda pilot exl with res and nav 47k miles.i bought it at 25k .first thing I did was disable the vcm in the pilot.at 30k I had a transmission shutter I did the 3x drain and fill transmission flush with tranny filter.then after I drain and fill every 10 to 15k ,and did the rear diff fluid change and transfer case fluid .I don't follow the reminder on car .I do all my own work .I also changed the tires at 25k from those terrible bridgestone duelers worst tires every .and bought michelin ltx tires best tires ever.and I just changed all 4 brakes at 45k cost me 450 bucks remind I do my own work.disabling the vcm helps the transmission over heating and stops the 3 injectors shut down when on highway for gas milege" and makes the car now a full v6 at all times and more power and stops injectors failures. The vcm is what made your injectors fail and transmission fluid over heat .I had to adjust headlights down also and fog lights up because mine were pointed to high also. I run fuel injector cleaning and also I put high octane 93 octane or 92 what ever is available. I got the recall for infotainment but I've never had issues with it yet so if it's not broken don't touch it.and also I'll be changing the coolant at 55k also.ive had good luck with my car so far been a great car
I have a 2019 2WD EXL with six speed transmission. When my transmission began buzzing and vibrating at 52,000 miles, I disabled the VCM and did a drain and fill on the transmission myself. Now at 117,500 miles, I have yet to have the buzzing or vibration return. I lost about 1/2 mpg after installing the VCM disabler. Definitely worth the investment.
@tonydietz7262 definitely well worth it .I installed it as soon as I got the car .after reading about the car and the transmission and the injectors and disabling half the engine when vcm is kicking on and off I believe the car will go 200k+ miles with vcm disabled .but if it's not i have 2 friends with the these pilots never disabled and lots of issues and injectors, mount problems and carbon build up and they both replaced the tranny already by 80k from fluid burning up .I do tranny fluid every 10 to 15k it's easier then oil change
Sounds like you had a pretty good vehicle! No CATASTROFIC failures/ major system (engine, trans, axles, radiator etc). Try saying that with a Chrysler or a GM product. If maintainece is all you have to complain about... you're lucky.
I have a 2019 pilot, 140k miles and I just changed the transmission fluid, hopefully it stops the jerking back and forth between the 1st and 2nd gear. I also have an “ All Wheel Drive System Problem” I have no idea what that means, any idea?
i have a 2020 and has been pretty trouble free with regular maintenance. i’m surprised you had some any issues. i have about 47k though. i need tires and was going to get the crossclimate 2 or the goodyear weather ready no squeaks or rattles either.
I put Michelin CrossClimate 2 on my wife's 2016 Pilot Touring 4WD four years ago and 30K miles on them now. Same ride quality as the factory tires, not noisy and gas mileage is same as new. Some reviews on aggresive tread tires are not so kind. Got a good deal (with $150 rebate) at Costco back then and I get the free rotation every 6K miles. They are "directional tires" so the driver side stay on that side and rotate front to back. (Of course, same for passenger side) They still have excellent tread wear. NE Ohio snow belt area.
I have a 2016 pilot with 105,000 mile. Transmission fluid change is a must radio for seri X satellite radio stop working . Honda wanted $2500 to change antenna. I switched to $10 a month and Bluetooth great music again . Have to change timing belt soon. Will used my local garage maybe . The seats are very wrong for my wife and I both over 6’ tail. Drive to Florida each winter 2400 miles
No modern vehicle should require this level of detailed maintenance to stay reliable. Transmission fluid changes every 15 to 20 thousand miles? I was considering buying a used 2010 but there is no way the previous owners were this meticulous.
I had a Mazda 6 with Jatco 5 speed. It ran so hot that the tranny fluid started stuttering needed changing at 30k miles. I performed a flush and fill using Amsoil full synthetic universal tranny fluid. That fixed the issue for another 110k miles when I sold it.
Depending on your financial situation, of course. And how much you drive. It's a bit unwise to hold on to "modern" vehicle for more than 80-90K. I own a '20 Passport and constant fluid changes get a bit tiresome. Engine oil, transmission oil, diff oil, brake fluid. It seem like every few month I have to tend to some sort of fluid change. Also, you are correct, timing belt is a big drawback. On top of that, the engine is direct injection only. Which, if you not careful with gas, you can get fouling issue fairly early. Honda "recommends" taking a head off and cleaning valves at 56K miles!! That's easy $2K+ job. I got 4 years 80K extended warranty for $900 when the car was at 35K. So once I hit 75K, I am out. As consolation, this is about the only NA v6 in a mid-size SUV on a market today. Turbo 4-bangers are even worth. I am not a huge fan of leasing, but looks like there is not much choice going forward.
Honda isn’t what it used to be. I have a 2023 Cr-v hybrid and it’s had 3 recalls so far and many people on the forums are saying their injectors are failing within 10,000 miles. At this point i feel like it’s a matter of time before something major goes wrong. Im very nervous keeping this outside of the warranty.
I regret buying our 2019 pilot because I don’t feel like I can trust it. We have to change trans fluid often as you say for the same reason. Also there is a recall on the fuel pump. Dealers didn’t have the parts so we had to wait until our pump actually failed to get it replaced. Dealer talked me into a timing belt at 90,000 based on oil leak/soak. My 2015 Silverado has been much more reliable and I thought the Chevy would be the one with problems and the Honda bulletproof based on the reputation from earlier Pilots. We have 95000 miles on the Pilot, 150,000 on the Silverado. I’ve changed the trans fluid once in the Chevy.
Bottom line: the only real issue was with the injectors, most likely to crappy local gas supplier (too much ethanol). Timing belt lasts around 150k, you don't need to worry. Do it before you hit 110k using OEM parts like water pump, tensioner and pulley . What is coming next: alternator fail at around 120k-130k. Front suspension wear showing at 140K. Random engine sensors failing giving codes ($30 DIY fixes). Increased cabin noise due to door seals drying out. Inside rattle here and there. You will absolutely get increased oil consumption after 130k - get ready to consume up to a quarter of oil between oil changes. All and all Honda v6 cars are good cars
You got scammed on the fuel injectors. There’s a recall for those. AHM should have changed those for you at no cost. The bulletin says is your car has less than 150k or is less that 10 years old from the 1st purchase of the vehicle they would change those.
Currently have a 2010 Honda Pilot. Bought it when it was 2 years old from US. Had it maintained in Regina Honda Saskatchewan. For almost a decade. The services cost in the dealership is ridiculous. Thousands dollars per year. They are always finding an issue. Their services doesn't last that long. Trully a money pit. Rear door and passenger door is all rusty. Rear door is very bad now. And then guess what, majority of the 2010ish have bad rusty rear door. The same ridiculous service charges and recommendation when i go to Calgary Honda. Anytime you go to their shop, they fix one things and they discover a lot other issues. I have decided to use a local shop for some services. I am definitely not getting a jonda pilot again.
Dont service your Honda at Walmart, 1st off I had to fix my gf car twice after she had it serviced there. The techs dont care, spend the money and have it serviced by the pro...i would never let a Walmart tech maintain my Pilot
What brand of universal roof rack cross bars are you using? I'm at 100,000 miles, i bought my pilot used at 88,000 miles. I've had an issue with the battery but so far that's it (thank god). I'm planning on putting another 100,000 more miles on this thing and hope she can handle it with routine maintenance. Thank you in advance.
Make sure you have the oil pump seal and pick up tube seal replaced when you have the timing belt service done. Maybe yours falls under the engine recall.
Fuel injectors were covered by extended warranty 150,000 miles or ten years. If you did before the warranty, they are to refund that. I have the Ridgeline (2018) and it will probably be my last Honda. Too many problems and maintenance required for a late model vehicle.
Yep, I was going to say the same thing. I've had the injectors replaced 2 times under the extended warranty. I think it's 10 years 120k miles, but regardless you should not have had to pay for this replacement of the injectors
I keep my vehicles a long time, so I would NEVER buy anything with an engine timing belt because you're guaranteeing yourself expensive extra maintenance. My Neighbor bought a Pilot 20 years ago. I bought a Ford Explorer. Still have the Explorer at 229,000 miles. My neighbor ditched the expensive to maintain pilot after about 6 years and bought a Ford. They also had the cracked windshield due to the excessive body flexing AND had to replace the wiring harness because the rodents love the soy based plastic Honda used as insualtion. BTW, my neighbor sill have the Ford that replaced the Honda, and have bought two more Fords for their kids.
That transmision only hold 3.5 quarts on a drain and fill and 7.9 quarts on an initial fill. I you are putting 10 you are over filling by a large margin.
We purchased 2016 PILOT EX AWD 6 SPD brand new in Dec 2016. As of today 05DEC20214, we have 39k Miles on it . Most of the time our vehicle stay in the garage because we live on base @ FT Riley. So far we have had four oil/filter change and tire rotation done at Honda. Our Warranty is long gone and only thing Honda recalled this vehicle was for Lose HOOD latch and we have 10 year extended Warranty for Start Button on dash which still works fine. Oh and we changed the battery on our Key Fob once. I do plan to take it to Honda Dealer and have them change the transmission and rear diff fluid. So far Pilot has served our family very well and do plane to keep the SUV for as long as possible.
I have the same issue with my 2019 Pilot transmission and change the transmission fluid every 10-15 thousand miles. Some people have switched to a different fluid and claim that fixed the problem.
I have a 2019 Honda Pilot and what I would like to fix is the radio. The FM signal is not good, it gets lost very quickly when I am listening to a radio station.
I own 2017 Pilot. 93000 miles. Has been a good vehicle. Change oil @dealer ($80 full syn) whenever indicated, with tire rotation, MPI. One tire change @66K, replaced with same as OEM. Still on original brakes, but about time (bought replacement pads, still need to install--@~2-3mm, rotors smooth). Did experience the Transmission shutter mentioned--have done Trans fluid flush service twice (about every 35K)--its time for that again. NO MAJOR PROBLEMS. Wife has EXACT same vehicle. 76000 miles. Only issue on hers was had to replace Transmission pressure switch ($375). Same tire replacement timing and she is still on original brakes as well. We have been happy with these vehicles, but looking to trade in for full size truck soon.
Change the timing belt yet?? Not something for a shade tree mechanic! Dealers charge $1500 for changing the timing belt!! Oh, do not get your oil changed at Walmart!
@@iamgermane No, have not changed Timing Belt...yet. It's one of those "living on borrowed time" things, right? And, yes, I understand it's rather involved, might as well/or have to change gaskets and bearings while they're in there! Dealer only on Oil changes, for $80 including full syn and tire rotation, can hardly (don't want to) do it myself for that!
Nice video I have a 2018 pilot elite i have problem with the automatic high beam it just kept the light in high most of the time or just lower it when the coming traffic car is about 20 foot, so people always put the high beam on m
Good video. Thank you for creating it. Currently, I drive a 2015 Cadillac SRX. Looking to buy a brand new Pilot or Toyota Grand Highlander. Do you believe the new Pilots have these issues or has Honda corrected the problems? Thanks.
I am not convinced that the shudders were caused by the transmission fluid being old. There is something else that is causing the shuddering. You should consult with a transmission specialist to find where it went wrong instead of guessing by yourself..
Yes, it is caused by the transmission fluid. I had it happen with my Ridgeline, that has same engine and transmission as the Pilot. Changing the transmission fluid fixed the problem.
You let walmart employees wrench on your car? Dude...what are you thinking? Also, at 80$ per oil change that's about double the cost of the oil and filter and 10 minutes of your time.
The car is a lemon. Have a 2020 EX-L since new. 40k miles and a lot of unnecessary repairs- tail light fail, AC compressor, power seat motor, rear main seal leak, transmission judder, interior components breaking on a sparingly used, well maintained garaged vehicle, not to mention the fluids that need to be changed sooner than the maintenance minder comes on- the trans fluid barely makes it 15-20k miles. Coming from older Hondas and newer Toyotas, this thing is garbage. Definitely my last Honda for sure.
Your transmission fluid change frequency is excessive, to say the least. If it's a CVT, I might see the frequency being greater than an automatic transmission, but change fluid every 15k miles for the transmission fluid is exceptionally strange in frequency. It seems like something is not normal with your car. Honda's are so good, but your car is an exception with all the goofy things uou have dealt with.
Older Honda are great my 07 Civic has 372,000 miles and still going strong. Only major issue was replacing the transmission at 354,000 due to crack case I do my own oil change every 3,000 miles
Thanks for the video. You explained very well. I'm gonna send this to my dad who is dedicated honda fan. He owns two hondas including pilot, and has spent a lot of money for replacing this and that for years. I told him that spending that much of money every year on cars doesn't make good cars. He still thinks they are good cars though. 😂 This video won't change his mind, but still it will give him an idea.
My 2016 blew the engine at 40k miles. Replaced all gaskets, injectors, timing belt, water pump, all while Under warranty, but now im paranoid going anywhere with it. Before that the touch screen was replaced due to an issue. Owning this car has made me somewhat of a J35 expert, currently looking at defeating the VCM system to help avoid the engine stress.
Total warranty repairs were close to $15k. Watching that class action in the US, hoping that crosses into Canada as well.
You are crazy if you don’t replace the timing belt if your wife drives the car on the interstate. I don’t want my wife breaking down if I can help it. Plus you destroy the engine if it breaks
You shouldn’t have to do it. It’s crazy in this day of age that they are still using a rubber timing system.
2K for timing belt outweighs engine replacement and safety hazards all day!
@@4Runner21 Most people can’t afford $400, never mind $2000.
Let me tell you this video is pure gold, I like how he shares his experience with the Pilot, I want one in the incoming years, but I dont like to do so many maintainance, so maybe I should think more about getting one, anyways I saw all the video and I feel this is a genuine owner review, so thanks for all the honesty and clear information I really appreciate it.
@@kenneth2405 thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Which car would you recommend?
I have a push button to turn auto stop off- i hate it's function and keep it off unless I forget.. button has to be reset each drive....
Thank you for your review! I have a 2019 Honda Ridgeline RTL, which has essentially the same engine and transmission as the Pilot. I currently have about 64,000 miles on it. I did have the transmission shuttering shortly after 50,000 miles. After seeing what it was by watching another TH-cam video, I had my local mechanic change the transmission fluid. That fixed it! It was suggested that I change the fluid around every 20,000 miles. So I plan to do that. Another Ridgeline owner did not change the fluid, and ruined the transmission. I do not know why Honda does not communicate this!
I also just found out that spark plugs should be changed every 60,000 miles. So I will be getting that done at the next oil change coming up.
I did have a small leak in my AWD transfer case recently. That cost $1,000 to fix that!
Otherwise, it's been a great riding truck with sideways opening tailgate and in-bed trunk. I would buy it again.
By the way, I don't get those maintenance reminders. How can I view those?
I agree with you about the fuel injectors. As for the timing belt kit replacement- most reputable independent shops will do it for under $1,500 in most places, using quality parts.
Also, you don’t have to “tear apart the engine” to replace the timing kit - you just have to remove the timing cover. The parts bolt onto the side of the engine.
You do have to tear into the engine. This is crazy to have to spend this kind of money on an appliance.
I own a 2016 Honda Pilot and I'm surprised with the known issues it has, including the fuel injectors. It was replaced for free under extended warranty. The driveshaft went out, the start stop button was replaced, the hood had a reinforcement plate installed, the 9 speed transmission had a software update, and after 7 years it had the timing belt and water pump replaced. However, it is a well finished, specious and comfortable vehicle.
Transmission oil change (drain and fill only) on Honda vehicle is very critical. I owned Civic, Odessey, HR-V and Fit. They are good vehicles. But you have to be on top of maintenance or thing will break down prematurely. Great tips, Mario!
@@MoBangFoYoBucks absolutely true.
I’ll just stick with toyota/lexus
I bought a 2013 Touring model with 230K miles. Yeah I know it's high, but the service history is amazing on it. 15 pages of services on Carfax and the same on Honda website. All local Honda dealers. I can verify all the services on Honda website. Nothing was missed and had 2 timing belt and parts changed already. One thing I noticed is the a lot of transmission/trans axle/diff fluid changes at the dealer. I though to myself, maybe the owner was a sucker for the service advisor. But as I get to know more about this I can fully understand. Last change of the trans fluid has been 20K ago from when I bought it. I ordered the DW-1 fluid, 10 Quarts, and will do that myself. I am an advanced DIY. I come to Honda from Toyota, and I have seen Toyotas go150K on original trans fluid, so it is surprising the ridiculous low miles for trans service on this.
We are the original owner of a 2012 Honda Pilot now @ 156,000 miles, timing belt, water pump etc replaced @ 115,000 miles, 1-set of brakes, alternator replaced, on my 3rd set of tires (Michelins they are great) this vehicle has been problem free just needs required maintenance!
Sounds like some of the newer models such as this 2019 are more problematic, similar to most new vehicles of the last 10 years!
I have a 2016 pilot and it literally took 15 min to change the trans fluid and no filter to change. Highly recommend changing it yourself and save money
They do have filters. I change mine when I service, but it's not required
@@NiceGarage it’s a quick job for sure.
This is insane coming from a 2014 CRV Owner. Your pilot sounds like it's been nothing but headaches, very sorry to hear
13 RDX here, I believe we have same engine and tranny. This car loves its tranny drain and fills no more than every 15K miles. I might even do sooner. Oil changes every 3K miles. I do all myself. Timing belt was done at 90K miles or so by a Honda tech friend I am blessed to have, and just did plugs at just past 100K miles. RDX currently at 110K miles. We have owned this car since 77K miles. Fun comfy car. Don’t risk your engine over timing belt. Get it done and take care of the car and it will take care of you.
I have a 2016, 6 speed. Everything you said so far. Is extremely accurate. Don't forget our pilots are now under investigation for major rod bearing issues with our engines. Potentially it can call if not most vehicles soon. Hopefully so
My 2019 Pilot, Touring, bought new, now with 68,000 miles has had one transmission fluid change/fill at 40,000 miles. No issues with
the transmission at all... Will do this again at 80,000 miles...
you have the 9 speed, i am guessing he has 6 speed , big difference in reliability
@@daveroski yes. has the push button console for shifting, So far, all good. Can get up to an honest 30MPG from time to time, regularly in the 24-26 range.. I think impressive for the V6 engine/transmission...
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@ yeah. I have a 2021 Honda ridgeline. Pretty much same vehicle. But don’t get the greatest gas mileage. I disabled the auto stop start and the vvt so that has something to do w it.
In past 25 years, I had / have Odyssey, Acura TL (V6), TLX, Passport (V6), CRV Hybrid, MDX (V6), RDX (V6). No engine or transmission trouble.
After watching your video, I'm even more convinced we may have got a lemon. Let me tell you about it and maybe you have some advice.
2020 Honda Pilot EX purchased in November 2019, 100k miles. I haven't done most of my maintenance myself but found your channel due to transmission issues going on currently (hard shifts mostly, holding gear for longer, and maybe a little power loss).
We have replaced a pressure switch in the transmission at about 50k miles and done all the recalls. The TSB last year for the MOST connectors finally seemed to fix our entertainment system - no complaints since. We're on our second set of brakes on the front and 3rd set on the rear (just had to do those recently about 95k miles.)
Our biggest gremlin and ongoing problem is the LIDAR system and functions that use it. Our adaptive cruise control brakes for cars in the lane to the left of us and frequently does not detect cars in our own lane. The car often warns me of a collision (by flashing lights and vibrating the steering wheel) when cars are approaching me on two lane roads (nearly all or driving is on two lane roads.). Dealer says the system is "within spec". Any ideas on how to adjust that??
Would love to see a video on the differential drain and refill. Also your opinion on using another brand of ATF instead of the Honda stuff. Would also love to see the video if you end up doing that timing belt change yourself.
@@alece9697 it’s possible that you might need some additional work. I always used the Honda ATF, but not sure if it’s truly needed. Glad the MOST cables are fixed. It was such a pain for me.
I owned 3 new Hondas back in the 80-90s. Put a combined total of 200,000+ miles on them and did nothing but change oil every 3000 miles. Quality seems to have gone away or your vehicle is a victim of all the electrical “features” of newer vehicles. I would sell that before you’re forced to replace the transmission.
My dad owns two hondas, civic and pilot. He's spent a lot of money for replacing parts for years just like this guy, but worse since he's not maintaining the cars by himself. This isn't a new car problem. It's been like that all the time.
I had the same transmission issues. I replaced the Honda OE fluid with Valvoline - no more problems.
What year and kind of Honda do you have?
Had a 2017 and 2019 Ridgeline with the same tranny. Drove them both to about 70k and never changed the transmission fluid once nor did I have any issues with it. I have since owned a 2021 and now 2024 which have the 9 spd. No issues or oil change done on my 2021 either.
Would you say the 2024 has better safety tech than the older ones? Do you get phantom braking with it?
@ I think they made it better. No phantom breaking but sensors still go off a little but not as often when I meet other vehicles on regular single lane roads.
I would be pissed if I had to spend that much on a vehicle to keep it running. Would you recommend it, after paying so much to keep it running with all the issues?
In 140k for our 2019 Traverse we never replaced brakes, or a light bulb and paid less than $250 in total “repairs”. Our transmission fluid was replaced at 90k and we did our first tune up at 100k. That’s it.
Our 2019 Traverse has gone 50k with ZERO issues besides 1 recall. We still haven’t replaced the transmission fluid, or had any repairs or issues.
The shudder is a common issue on the 6 speed transmissions, not the 9 speed. Have had no issue with mine, 105,000 miles. My local dealer quotes a timing belt replacement at less than $1200.
Constant limited slip torque converters cook the friction inhibitors fairly quickly so when you have this technology in your transmission you need to change that fluid frequently , especially if you do a lot of city driving in the warmer locations.
We have a 2019 Touring 2WD and haven't had all your issues. Our Pilot just hit 100k miles. We just replaced the timing belt at the dealer for about $1200. My biggest gripe is it is on its 3rd battery. Also, we have only done the ATF every 30K miles with no noticeable issues as you have described. We also had a radio popping issue that was repaired under warranty.
I have a 2019 with 77,000 and just replaced the battery for the first time. Make sure you are getting the AGM battery and not a standard battery, if you didn't it will not last.
I have a Honda crv 2004, 2L petrol 180,000 miles, no major problems over 5 years, but I have had done reinforced wheel arches, sills, this car is bullet proof, it's towed up mountains, pulled cars from beaches etc etc, travelled all around Europe in it and I live in it 😁🤜🤛respect
@@Travelling-Tim from an era of dependable Hondas. Nice.
You had a LOT of issues with your car. I'd sell the car if I were you ... immediately. I own both a2016 and a 2017 Pilot and they both run great. I'm just changing the oil every 3-5,000 miles. I've also replaced the tires and brakes on both cars. That's it. Now, I can't STAND the transmission on the 2017. I hate it. the 2016 is "ok", but the transmission isn't the best . Most timing belts easily last to 150,000. Mine broke on my old CRX, but I was at 200,000. I love Hondas. All they do is run :)
If you are referring to hard shifts for the ZF 9 speed, especially 1-2 gear shift, there is a PCM update that will smooth it out.
Good video thanks. I have a 2018 Pilot that has been in service 6 times for code p2101 affecting the throttle body and now drive train modules. I am now being told it needs a new transmission at 55K miles. Limp mode 4 times and had I towed to dealer twice. Engaged with Honda America now.
I a have a 2019 exl res but the 2wd. I use a google tv for the screen. My rear entertainment was my issue. The cable in the back was reconnected and I’ve been good since. I replace my trans fluid every 30k. Oil at 20 percent. Never left me stranded. I don’t get the shutter ever and I’ve gone over the 30k. Just did the 100k and replaced plugs, all fluids, front control arms, sway bar links, timing belt, serpentine belt and bunch of other things at the dealership $4500 for everything. I’m at 97k. I don’t want to gamble. Good luck
2005 Honda pilot with like 230k miles on it. Still kicking. Recently had an intersection with a deer which has inspired us to check out the newer models. Treacherous, indeed.
I had same issue with transmission shudder in my wifes CR-V........must be a Honda issue?
2004 Honda Pilot owner here. 200,000 miles and no major issues. My favorite vehicle. oil change regular, timing belt done at 100k and 200k miles. Just a little rusty paint on top of hood, side of body is still good. Tire rotation from good year for free because I brought tires three years ago.
Sounds like a gem! Thanks for sharing your experience.
You have a 2004 that’s pretty reliable. I think this video is about 17-22 which have been notoriously have bad trannys and emissions/fuel system issues
Not the same engine and transmission as his 2019 which is under recall.
I am thankful I did not buy a new Pilot (not the turn of the century Pilot.)
Im giving my 2014 Honda Pilot to my son, with 190 thousand miles, with requital maintance done, and now looking for a used Honda Pilot, my mechanic said to avoid the six speed transmission, and look for one with the nine speed.
2020 pilot touring and driven 94000 miles. I’m the only owner. Those fluid maintenance are pricey. Just done trans fluid drain and fill and brake fluid and it was $500 and $300 respectively. I didn’t have any of those issues you had. I had the infotainment static and popping noise but has been corrected by recall. Next up is the timing belt and spark plug service. Might have to find a local mechanic to do those.
I have the 2019 exl 6 speed.love it jusy finished the tining belt and other stuff required at 105k miles. Feels brand new hood for another 100k miles with regular maintenance
Have a 2005 Honda Pilot with 278k miles, timing belt changed 2 twice. I get coupons from dealerships for oil changes, tire rotation. Most maintenance by mobile techs still strong.
It’s awesome that it’s still going strong after so many miles.
On the advice of Scotty Kilmer I don't rotate my tires any more. Actually I only did it for the one car I bought new. Never noticed any uneven wear patterns.
Most of my 40 or so cars I never touched my tranny fluid. Some went as high as 260,000 miles. Never any trouble. Once again, on my one new car I've changed it twice, now have 160,000. But I don't drain and fill. I change it all. Would you only change half your oil? Get rid of that money pit.
This is an absurd amount of maintenance for a modern vehicle right? Especially on a Japanese vehicle.
The Honda Pilot is made in the US.
@@AgentGrand12 fyi when someone says a country before the word vehicle they mean a Japanese car company…. Dense
@@Luciferisking512 whatever makes you feel better....Dense 😂
@@AgentGrand12 says the guy trying to make up his own meanings for common used language
Designed and built in the US
Before replacing those fuel injectors did you try cleaning them first with fuel injector cleaner? Techron fuel additive comes to mind. In your case since you haven't been cleaning your injectors regularly at every oil change you would have to add a whole bottle to a quarter tank of gas. Or put 2 or 3 bottles per tank and keep doing that until things are running smoothly. You might not have needed new injectors. They might have simply needed cleaning. People call stuff like "Techron" fuel additive snake oil, but it does work. The FTC would have had these products pulled from the shelves years ago if it was a scam. If you used fuel injector cleaner every 5,000 miles that would have cost a whole lot less money then $1,200 for new fuel injectors at 100,000 miles. I'm guessing you never used HEET fuel additive that removes water from the fuel tank with easier engine starts in the cold of winter? Water in the fuel causes metal to corrode and could have caused your fuel injectors to corrode out way too soon.
Honda/Acura never the best with transmissions but Pilots now have the newer 10 speed transmission.
I'm glad I have watched your experience with this car. I was shopping for passport, pilot or a ridgeline. Not any longer.
Same here. I’ve always wanted a Pilot. I’m bummed….☹️
I have a 2020 honda pilot exl with res and nav 47k miles.i bought it at 25k .first thing I did was disable the vcm in the pilot.at 30k I had a transmission shutter I did the 3x drain and fill transmission flush with tranny filter.then after I drain and fill every 10 to 15k ,and did the rear diff fluid change and transfer case fluid .I don't follow the reminder on car .I do all my own work .I also changed the tires at 25k from those terrible bridgestone duelers worst tires every .and bought michelin ltx tires best tires ever.and I just changed all 4 brakes at 45k cost me 450 bucks remind I do my own work.disabling the vcm helps the transmission over heating and stops the 3 injectors shut down when on highway for gas milege" and makes the car now a full v6 at all times and more power and stops injectors failures. The vcm is what made your injectors fail and transmission fluid over heat .I had to adjust headlights down also and fog lights up because mine were pointed to high also. I run fuel injector cleaning and also I put high octane 93 octane or 92 what ever is available. I got the recall for infotainment but I've never had issues with it yet so if it's not broken don't touch it.and also I'll be changing the coolant at 55k also.ive had good luck with my car so far been a great car
I have a 2019 2WD EXL with six speed transmission. When my transmission began buzzing and vibrating at 52,000 miles, I disabled the VCM and did a drain and fill on the transmission myself. Now at 117,500 miles, I have yet to have the buzzing or vibration return. I lost about 1/2 mpg after installing the VCM disabler. Definitely worth the investment.
@tonydietz7262 definitely well worth it .I installed it as soon as I got the car .after reading about the car and the transmission and the injectors and disabling half the engine when vcm is kicking on and off I believe the car will go 200k+ miles with vcm disabled .but if it's not i have 2 friends with the these pilots never disabled and lots of issues and injectors, mount problems and carbon build up and they both replaced the tranny already by 80k from fluid burning up .I do tranny fluid every 10 to 15k it's easier then oil change
Sounds like you had a pretty good vehicle! No CATASTROFIC failures/ major system (engine, trans, axles, radiator etc). Try saying that with a Chrysler or a GM product. If maintainece is all you have to complain about... you're lucky.
@@Ram14250 excellent perspective. Never been stranded. The fuel injectors were frustrating, but it kept running.
I have a 2019 pilot, 140k miles and I just changed the transmission fluid, hopefully it stops the jerking back and forth between the 1st and 2nd gear. I also have an “ All Wheel Drive System Problem” I have no idea what that means, any idea?
@@oliedumszthem it might just need a new sensor in the rear differential. Have you ever changed the rear differential fluid?
@@AdventureGearTV I haven’t but I’m
Going to give it a try
i have a 2020 and has been pretty trouble free with regular maintenance. i’m surprised you had some any issues. i have about 47k though. i need tires and was going to get the crossclimate 2 or the goodyear weather ready no squeaks or rattles either.
I put Michelin CrossClimate 2 on my wife's 2016 Pilot Touring 4WD four years ago and 30K miles on them now. Same ride quality as the factory tires, not noisy and gas mileage is same as new. Some reviews on aggresive tread tires are not so kind. Got a good deal (with $150 rebate) at Costco back then and I get the free rotation every 6K miles. They are "directional tires" so the driver side stay on that side and rotate front to back. (Of course, same for passenger side) They still have excellent tread wear. NE Ohio snow belt area.
I have a 2016 pilot with 105,000 mile. Transmission fluid change is a must radio for seri X satellite radio stop working . Honda wanted $2500 to change antenna. I switched to $10 a month and Bluetooth great music again . Have to change timing belt soon. Will used my local garage maybe . The seats are very wrong for my wife and I both over 6’ tail. Drive to Florida each winter 2400 miles
I'm pretty sure the warranty on the injectors was extended to 130k miles a couple of years ago.
No modern vehicle should require this level of detailed maintenance to stay reliable. Transmission fluid changes every 15 to 20 thousand miles? I was considering buying a used 2010 but there is no way the previous owners were this meticulous.
I had a Mazda 6 with Jatco 5 speed. It ran so hot that the tranny fluid started stuttering needed changing at 30k miles. I performed a flush and fill using Amsoil full synthetic universal tranny fluid. That fixed the issue for another 110k miles when I sold it.
Depending on your financial situation, of course. And how much you drive. It's a bit unwise to hold on to "modern" vehicle for more than 80-90K. I own a '20 Passport and constant fluid changes get a bit tiresome. Engine oil, transmission oil, diff oil, brake fluid. It seem like every few month I have to tend to some sort of fluid change. Also, you are correct, timing belt is a big drawback. On top of that, the engine is direct injection only. Which, if you not careful with gas, you can get fouling issue fairly early. Honda "recommends" taking a head off and cleaning valves at 56K miles!! That's easy $2K+ job. I got 4 years 80K extended warranty for $900 when the car was at 35K. So once I hit 75K, I am out. As consolation, this is about the only NA v6 in a mid-size SUV on a market today. Turbo 4-bangers are even worth. I am not a huge fan of leasing, but looks like there is not much choice going forward.
Switch to Valvoline Maxlife ATF. Change it every 30-40K
Honda isn’t what it used to be. I have a 2023 Cr-v hybrid and it’s had 3 recalls so far and many people on the forums are saying their injectors are failing within 10,000 miles. At this point i feel like it’s a matter of time before something major goes wrong. Im very nervous keeping this outside of the warranty.
I regret buying our 2019 pilot because I don’t feel like I can trust it. We have to change trans fluid often as you say for the same reason. Also there is a recall on the fuel pump. Dealers didn’t have the parts so we had to wait until our pump actually failed to get it replaced. Dealer talked me into a timing belt at 90,000 based on oil leak/soak. My 2015 Silverado has been much more reliable and I thought the Chevy would be the one with problems and the Honda bulletproof based on the reputation from earlier Pilots. We have 95000 miles on the Pilot, 150,000 on the Silverado. I’ve changed the trans fluid once in the Chevy.
Bottom line: the only real issue was with the injectors, most likely to crappy local gas supplier (too much ethanol). Timing belt lasts around 150k, you don't need to worry. Do it before you hit 110k using OEM parts like water pump, tensioner and pulley . What is coming next: alternator fail at around 120k-130k. Front suspension wear showing at 140K. Random engine sensors failing giving codes ($30 DIY fixes). Increased cabin noise due to door seals drying out. Inside rattle here and there. You will absolutely get increased oil consumption after 130k - get ready to consume up to a quarter of oil between oil changes. All and all Honda v6 cars are good cars
Chains don't last forever either. My 2021 EX-L has been great. Mine has the ZF 9-speed transmission which is a much better transmission.
They outlast the engine and rest of the car unless it’s a GM 3.6.
You got scammed on the fuel injectors. There’s a recall for those. AHM should have changed those for you at no cost. The bulletin says is your car has less than 150k or is less that 10 years old from the 1st purchase of the vehicle they would change those.
Currently have a 2010 Honda Pilot. Bought it when it was 2 years old from US. Had it maintained in Regina Honda Saskatchewan. For almost a decade. The services cost in the dealership is ridiculous. Thousands dollars per year. They are always finding an issue. Their services doesn't last that long. Trully a money pit. Rear door and passenger door is all rusty. Rear door is very bad now. And then guess what, majority of the 2010ish have bad rusty rear door. The same ridiculous service charges and recommendation when i go to Calgary Honda. Anytime you go to their shop, they fix one things and they discover a lot other issues. I have decided to use a local shop for some services. I am definitely not getting a jonda pilot again.
Dont service your Honda at Walmart, 1st off I had to fix my gf car twice after she had it serviced there. The techs dont care, spend the money and have it serviced by the pro...i would never let a Walmart tech maintain my Pilot
What trim level is that? What transmission?
What brand of universal roof rack cross bars are you using?
I'm at 100,000 miles, i bought my pilot used at 88,000 miles. I've had an issue with the battery but so far that's it (thank god). I'm planning on putting another 100,000 more miles on this thing and hope she can handle it with routine maintenance. Thank you in advance.
Make sure you have the oil pump seal and pick up tube seal replaced when you have the timing belt service done. Maybe yours falls under the engine recall.
I think If you change the transmission fluid the 3x to get it to 97% you should be good.
Is the transmission issue because it is a CVT rather than an old school torque converter transmission?
It’s not CVT
Fuel injectors were covered by extended warranty 150,000 miles or ten years. If you did before the warranty, they are to refund that.
I have the Ridgeline (2018) and it will probably be my last Honda. Too many problems and maintenance required for a late model vehicle.
Yep, I was going to say the same thing. I've had the injectors replaced 2 times under the extended warranty. I think it's 10 years 120k miles, but regardless you should not have had to pay for this replacement of the injectors
Do you have the 6 or 9 speed transmission? My guess is the 6.
Don’t forget to change your timing belt tensioner, with all the above you listed
And water pump when changing timing belt!
I keep my vehicles a long time, so I would NEVER buy anything with an engine timing belt because you're guaranteeing yourself expensive extra maintenance. My Neighbor bought a Pilot 20 years ago. I bought a Ford Explorer. Still have the Explorer at 229,000 miles. My neighbor ditched the expensive to maintain pilot after about 6 years and bought a Ford. They also had the cracked windshield due to the excessive body flexing AND had to replace the wiring harness because the rodents love the soy based plastic Honda used as insualtion. BTW, my neighbor sill have the Ford that replaced the Honda, and have bought two more Fords for their kids.
Honda actually has come up with a fix for the infotainment system. Did you have the recall done?
Yes they fixed mine
I had a 2019 Pilot and put 130k on it. Did the trans service 1 time at 30k.
Now have a 2024 pilot. Almost to 30K now.
How is it going with the 2024? Do you feel like the safety features and tech are better than the 2019?
That transmision only hold 3.5 quarts on a drain and fill and 7.9 quarts on an initial fill. I you are putting 10 you are over filling by a large margin.
I’d change that timing-belt. The good news is that most of the work isn’t difficult to perform yourself.
We purchased 2016 PILOT EX AWD 6 SPD brand new in Dec 2016. As of today 05DEC20214, we have 39k Miles on it . Most of the time our vehicle stay in the garage because we live on base @ FT Riley. So far we have had four oil/filter change and tire rotation done at Honda. Our Warranty is long gone and only thing Honda recalled this vehicle was for Lose HOOD latch and we have 10 year extended Warranty for Start Button on dash which still works fine. Oh and we changed the battery on our Key Fob once. I do plan to take it to Honda Dealer and have them change the transmission and rear diff fluid. So far Pilot has served our family very well and do plane to keep the SUV for as long as possible.
It sounds like you’ve taken good care of your Pilot and it’s serving you well!
Talk about transmission, VCM and transmission fluid change. I own an accord. We do transmission every 30k. But it is way too smooth compared to pilot
I have the same issue with my 2019 Pilot transmission and change the transmission fluid every 10-15 thousand miles. Some people have switched to a different fluid and claim that fixed the problem.
You are very good at explaining all the issues with the Pilot. Nicely done.
Would you tell us your long term gas milage
I have the same year and model. So far one tail light and the visors have gone bad at approximately 70k
Try using Amsoil transmission fluid instead. Protects much better than OEM.
I have a 2019 Honda Pilot and what I would like to fix is the radio. The FM signal is not good, it gets lost very quickly when I am listening to a radio station.
did you put a muzzler or vcm tuner?
I own 2017 Pilot. 93000 miles. Has been a good vehicle. Change oil @dealer ($80 full syn) whenever indicated, with tire rotation, MPI. One tire change @66K, replaced with same as OEM. Still on original brakes, but about time (bought replacement pads, still need to install--@~2-3mm, rotors smooth). Did experience the Transmission shutter mentioned--have done Trans fluid flush service twice (about every 35K)--its time for that again. NO MAJOR PROBLEMS. Wife has EXACT same vehicle. 76000 miles. Only issue on hers was had to replace Transmission pressure switch ($375). Same tire replacement timing and she is still on original brakes as well. We have been happy with these vehicles, but looking to trade in for full size truck soon.
Change the timing belt yet?? Not something for a shade tree mechanic! Dealers charge $1500 for changing the timing belt!! Oh, do not get your oil changed at Walmart!
@@iamgermane No, have not changed Timing Belt...yet. It's one of those "living on borrowed time" things, right? And, yes, I understand it's rather involved, might as well/or have to change gaskets and bearings while they're in there! Dealer only on Oil changes, for $80 including full syn and tire rotation, can hardly (don't want to) do it myself for that!
@@PaulHale-k1b And water pump...
I paid $750 for water pump timing belt Asin parts and labor at a local ase certified mechanic. So shop around. I
@@johnmountain4994 not bad.
Nice video I have a 2018 pilot elite i have problem with the automatic high beam it just kept the light in high most of the time or just lower it when the coming traffic car is about 20 foot, so people always put the high beam on m
Those lights can be annoying for sure.
Good video. Thank you for creating it. Currently, I drive a 2015 Cadillac SRX. Looking to buy a brand new Pilot or Toyota Grand Highlander. Do you believe the new Pilots have these issues or has Honda corrected the problems? Thanks.
Great video. I like the roof rack you have there, what's the part number if you don't mind, thanks.
The fuel injectors were faulty due to machining issues. Honda will pay for your repairs....
I am not convinced that the shudders were caused by the transmission fluid being old. There is something else that is causing the shuddering.
You should consult with a transmission specialist to find where it went wrong instead of guessing by yourself..
Yes, it is caused by the transmission fluid. I had it happen with my Ridgeline, that has same engine and transmission as the Pilot. Changing the transmission fluid fixed the problem.
You let walmart employees wrench on your car? Dude...what are you thinking? Also, at 80$ per oil change that's about double the cost of the oil and filter and 10 minutes of your time.
I've never seen a walmart with an auto service center? but I live in the northeast so not here I guess
The car is a lemon. Have a 2020 EX-L since new. 40k miles and a lot of unnecessary repairs- tail light fail, AC compressor, power seat motor, rear main seal leak, transmission judder, interior components breaking on a sparingly used, well maintained garaged vehicle, not to mention the fluids that need to be changed sooner than the maintenance minder comes on- the trans fluid barely makes it 15-20k miles. Coming from older Hondas and newer Toyotas, this thing is garbage. Definitely my last Honda for sure.
Bye Felicia
was thinking about a 2020 ?
How are you driving backwards green screen?
Coolant?
Check your thermostat first
That 100k is looking great!!
Thanks! Turned over about a week ago, and the plaque is on the way. No checkmark yet though.
@@AdventureGearTV you'll get there!
@@AdventureGearTV Plaque?
A timing chain needs their guides replaced around the same interval as timing belts.
No it doesn’t unless it’s a GM 3.6.
How many maintained Honda 4 cylinders need timing chain or guide work? The answer is zero.
You are charging me 41000 for a base model and the transmission is shit. Honda please start making it again in Japan.
Your transmission fluid change frequency is excessive, to say the least. If it's a CVT, I might see the frequency being greater than an automatic transmission, but change fluid every 15k miles for the transmission fluid is exceptionally strange in frequency.
It seems like something is not normal with your car.
Honda's are so good, but your car is an exception with all the goofy things uou have dealt with.
Damn, that’s crazy! Changed transmission fluid once at 90k in my 2004 Jeep Liberty, sold it at 177k miles and it was still running strong!
Older Honda are great my 07 Civic has 372,000 miles and still going strong. Only major issue was replacing the transmission at 354,000 due to crack case I do my own oil change every 3,000 miles
That’s a lot of miles from those vehicles. Did the transmission break, or just wear and tear?
Your V6 is under recall.
Try maxlife atf, it might go longer.
Thanks for the warning, honda has really gone downhill. 😢
Thanks for the video. You explained very well. I'm gonna send this to my dad who is dedicated honda fan. He owns two hondas including pilot, and has spent a lot of money for replacing this and that for years. I told him that spending that much of money every year on cars doesn't make good cars. He still thinks they are good cars though. 😂 This video won't change his mind, but still it will give him an idea.