This review of the SC2 SmartCarb is fair and well done. The defect at issue was a compromised needle seat o-ring that was torn during the assembly process - a quality control failure. Speaking for TE we regret the trouble that it caused, especially during a highly anticipated trip like this where it should have worked flawlessly. We've taken necessary steps to ensure this type of issue doesn't happen again. Your obvious commitment to providing candid and honest feedback both to us and to your followers is appreciable. Thank you sir.
Thanks Nathan. I can see that the viewers appreciate you being open and honest about the issue and taking steps to ensure it will not be a problem going forward.
Hi, I really disagree !!! ANYONE riding that bike and hearing that pounding in the pipe burbling off idle and does not know THAT it is RICH (mean comment here) should not write a review.... just saying.... looked like very different kind of a place to ride...btw Also I feel it is a cheap shot over an o ring
@@davidciesielski8251 Greg at PNW Enduro owes his channel and viewership honesty when reviewing a product, especially one like this that he had already been covering in his videos prior and building anticipation over. He clearly knew something was wrong but was in no position to diagnose or fix it for his ride, which by the way was around 1,200 miles from home for him. We don't feel that it was a cheap shot to mention his trouble in this video. There was a defect in the o-ring caused during the installation process and we're happy to address it publicly both for Greg and any potential customer looking at this video while weighing a purchasing decision or even for those just curious about the technology. We stand behind our product, even when it goes wrong.
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems Was the carb working better hat higher speeds I’m kind of having the same issue but leaning it out kind of helps might just need a little more dialing in but definitely a concern of mine but mines not leaking at all so maybe I’m just adjusting wrong
This really isn't a reason not to buy one. Things happen, as long as they fix it and it's not a reoccurring issue. I'd definitely give it a second chance.
I purchased a SmartCarb based on your previous reviews and it has been everything you talked about in your video. the SC2 wasn't available yet for me but needed it for a trip so went with the 38mm billet and returned my already bought Lectron. Keep up the good work.
R u saying the lectron billet was returned? If not how is it? I have the lectron h series and love it going from Colorado 10,000ft down to Texas elevation only having to turn down idle only!
My SC2 is set to be delivered today. I'll be installing it this week and taking a trip to Colorado starting on the 31st. I'm anticipating a flawless trouble free trip with it. I'll be doing a review myself as my buddy will be riding a same year and size carburetor bike to compare with. I hate that this was your experience. Seem that TE owns their mistake and has worked to correct it.
Had the same problem with a bad needle and seat in a lectron in my buddies bike as soon as we got to California this winter from Colorado. Sucks when you travel that long and have to fight s bike that don't run right. In my case, my smartcarb ran great though.
Not good news for me.. I have a SC2 in a box waiting to be installed. I appreciate your honest opinion. Its alot of money to spend not to be fully satisfied.
Z, if you have any questions, concerns, issues whatsoever please contact TE by phone, email, or social media. We're happy to answer any questions you may have. We've taken necessary steps to ensure that the needle seat o-ring isn't compromised during assembly.
I will be purchasing a smart carb 2 for my 2011 KTM 300xc for sure. I love their on the fly adjustability + no worries dumping too much fuel on the ground.
That's a bummer, the version 1 I have ( same carb you tested ) was rich out of the box, had to lean it 4 clicks and running great currently, will see what happens soon as the snow is gone and up the mountain I'll go.
I just received my SC2 last weekend right before my double header endurocross race and my carb was lean the bike would hang high idle. I've continued to work with TE and since sent it back for inspection. I totally understand your frustration. It pretty much cost me a full weekend of racing. I had no bottom end. Bike ran Amazing up top. Not really ideal for a soaking wet endurocross race. I hope they can remedy the situation quickly
@@PNWEnduro I am really hoping that the carb works again for you. I love the idea of the bike running super clean. But I am suspicious as well. Nathan and Corey from TE have been working with me on this issue but it still doesnt make it ok. I was really hoping to find something to share with my friends that was a great solution to the stock Carburetor on our KTM/HUSKYs. I'll remain positive and see if they can get mine to run as advertised when I get it back.
I've got the version 1 being shipped tomorrow from Dan Boettger Racing.. I hope I dont have any issues..I used your other video with lectron, mikuni and smart to make the decision. The major reason is fuel economy.. At the price of gas at the moment, if it performs well, it will pay for itself after a few seasons.
I notice the decel ding on the Lectron... I get the same thing. Have you fiddled with different metering rods at all? I haven't, but I've adjusted the stock rod richer and leaner, and when the bike performs best, I still have the ding. . Maybe it doesn't matter, I've just always thought it was a weird behavior.
My Lectron came with a 4-2m rod. When they rebuilt it for me they put in a 4-2 which is slightly richer. I did not notice a difference though. Now the Lectron is back on I had to go 1/4 turn leaner so get better throttle response.
I have the Lectron on a 2018 KTM 300 XCW. Haven’t touched it except adjust idle slightly. I run the Amsoil Saber 80:1. Getting a lot drool, blubbery idle to 1/4 throttle, decel ding and slightly hard to start when warm. Stock plug is black. Riding Oregon trails 1300-3600 elevations temps 50-70 degree. I’m thinking the metering rod needs to be leaned out, unless there’s a better metering rod for my riding areas?
Mike Rasmussen I had to lean out the metering rod 1/2 turn and turn up idle on my lectron. Recently started drooling more. Turned out to be crank seal leaking a little. Back to normal now. Throw away the fuel line they give you and careful with the gasket when you adjust the metering rod. Other than that no issues
Was this problem accompanied by difficulties in starting the bike? I have a similar problem, in the beginning I thought about the altitude in the mountains, until I put a standard carburetor and compared. One day the bike starts up normally, the other just stops starting at an altitude of 2000 meters or there is very poor traction and detonation, as if it suffocates. That being said, clicks aren't particularly helpful. I have already checked everything a dozen times and re-read the instructions. I'm tired of just looking for a problem. I honestly don't know what to do. Problem with O-ring or needle. I am in another country and this is a big problem, we only have a few Smartcarb for Sherco. Smartcarb support has been silent since last week.
Yes, it did have difficulty starting. Make sure you have done the trim on the air boot and intake flange on your Sherco to run the SC2. Elevation changes should not affect this carb. Also make sure you have the correct metering rod in the carb.
My lectron ran like this which it then fouled the plug, sad to say I didn’t get to finish the Desert 100 I went about 60 miles. After talking with lectron and digging deeper into it the problem was the vent tubes on the bottom of the carburetor where plugged.
I wanna see you run thay thing wide open when you get it back, I bought a 38mm cast for my 2018 250xc after your fist review and it would not run more than a couple seconds at wide open throttle. Even after working with TE, trying a richer rod, and sending it back and having it inspected it still would not run wide open. It was good till about 80% throttle then completely bogged out lean. A hand full of other users have had the same issue. I can say TE was good to work with and bought it back in the end.
While I want smart carb to succeed and I think they largely have, I love my lectron and have only ever had to adjust the idle. That’s a lot to say given it’s on a 125 that’s trail ridden in the Appalachian Moutain from Tennessee up to West Virginia. We have notoriously bad air quality. My average elevation in 1500 to 3000ft but even at 1500ft the da is 3000..... My ancient Mikuni was just a gigantic pain in the butt.
I had to return mine also. The carb really didn’t fit right (had to remove reed valve spacer) with a 1mm larger diameter spring on the rear damper. Then the TPS didn’t work at all. Disappointed since I had good results with my very early original- although since it was an early one, it took some fettling to get right.
Been watching ur videos and was wondering what psi and compression and rebound settings are you running in your air forks? Looks like in the north west mountains the terrain is pretty rough. I appreciate your honesty on the SmartCarb/2. I will probably still buy one and hopefully they will have addressed the quality control on the o-rings. I wonder if the seals can be serviced?
@KTM Trailrider My forks have been re-valved for my weight and also have the SKF glide kit installed. I'm running 130 psi now, before the re-valve I was at 120 psi. I don't remember the clicker settings as I have not touched them since the re-valve. The air forks are so adjustable I don't think I will bother with re-valving on my next bike. Also the it's easy to change the oil on the air forks I do it every 40 hrs or so. Yes I believe all the o-rings and seals can be serviced on the SC.
Before I got to the end I was thinking an O-Ring seal had failed. Wonder if v1 is better? I was leaning towards a SC2 but now I may pull trigger for Lectron on 2018 XC.
The SC2 is better than the prior 4 generations of 36-40mm billet SmartCarbs in numerous ways including improved fitment, a wider variety of stock throttle cable acceptance, internal vent passage routing, tolerance, etc. The issue at hand with this particular unit was that the needle seat o-ring was torn during assembly at the factory and steps have been taken to ensure that it doesn't happen again.
If I was SmartCarb I would offer PNW another carb for a redo. Of course the true test will be hownir works at elevation. Riding between Texas and Colorado is the main reason to get one. I don’t like wasting time jetting and want a crisp carb and not yet ready to goto TPI due to the single point of failure (oil pump).
I noticed you have quite a bit of the decel popping as well. “Pipe bang” The pipe bang is bad with the SC2 on my bike, but is running really good otherwise. Normally ride at McNutt. I had to tune it not per the manual though which is kind of concerning. Wouldn’t idle out of the box and leaning the clicker out after break in didn’t raise it either. Had to turn the idle in 1 full turn for a low idle and the clicker was near perfect. Went 1 click richer. I just wish it idled higher and didn’t make my bike clack so bad on decel.
hey PNW just installed a smartcarb 2 on my 2018 250xc i was wondering what settings you were using im on the 11 meterering rod at about 81 clicks out... just curious what u had it at when it was running good. i took my bike out today and it ran so amazing....
If your 300 is running lean on top then there are a few things we can do. It's possible that the vent scoop is partially obstructed inside of the airboot, causing a lack of fuel driving force in the float bowl. Some airboots require the trim and if the scoop is blocked it can cause top end lean running. It's also possible that you may need a step richer rod to provide more fuel in the mid to top range. We'd be happy to discuss your setup and ensure you have the right rod installed. If the lean running happens after a sustained amount of WOT riding then we may also want to look at fuel tank venting and fuel flow into the carb and/or the float level being a little too low. Please reach out directly if you haven't already, we'd be happy to assist your tuning efforts to get the most out of your SmartCarb.
It was for two rides, carb ran a little rich and then got worse. As per TE it would have just continued to get worse if it I kept running it with the defect. Once I got it back from being repaired it ran flawless.
Wow, extensive blubbery rich off idle, that's unfortunate. Can hear that poppinng on decel from rich unburned fuel as well. BTW, was that Sovereign Trail? Looks kinds familiar.
Technology Elevated has diagnosed the problem and made the repairs, they will be sending it back to me. As to when I'll try it again, I'm not sure at this point.
@@PNWEnduro I think you should give a try again, this issue can happen for any carb, it's an O ring issue, not a carb issue and the SC I think is really the best (didn't tried the STIC) that I have encountered
Speaking for them, SmartCarbs come with a 6 month warranty against manufacture and workmanship defects. In this case, as PNW mentioned, the faulty o-ring caused a rich condition which would not have cooked the engine. It does fall under a workmanship defect however and we would certainly cover any material liability that the defect may have caused.
I am using the Tusk handguards. Chraper and stronger than the Cycra's I had before. These are the ones.... www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-d-flex-pro-handguards-p?PID=8340296&ref=cj&cjevent=5e2e0f547bce11e9816c00730a1c0e0e
Never mind, now I have seen the whole video and you answered that question. This is the first negative thing I have seen on the smart carb. I am seriously considering one but I am worried now.
@RacerRed, I'm told the issue has been fixed going forward. I should be getting the SC2 back in a week or so. I don't really like posting negative reviews but I felt to be fair to the viewers I should share my full experience with the product.
PNW Enduro awesome that this issue should be fixed, though. I am the same way about reviews. I only do positive ones for the most part because I only use stuff that works. This carb seems like a great option. I still think its the best on the market, as long as the issue is fixed
Should never of left lectron.. those things are perfect 👌🤘💯 spend more money on the smart carb just for it to let you down and break... What a crock of shit!!!
@@PNWEnduro na man I did I did. I just love mine and for that reason I'm loyal to it.. they are both super technology for the 2t engine . But I do love the fact that in reality you had to actually put the lectron back on for bike to enjoy your day . That for me sells it 😉😜🤘💨💨🖤
Not worth the money to begin with. Out of all the hard enduro riders out there please tell me how many use a different type of carb?? I’m pretty sure it’s either non( that I’ve heard of) or very little. As for the economy benefit I think you’d have to ride for bloody years and years to make up the initial outlay in dollars saved on fuel.
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This review of the SC2 SmartCarb is fair and well done. The defect at issue was a compromised needle seat o-ring that was torn during the assembly process - a quality control failure. Speaking for TE we regret the trouble that it caused, especially during a highly anticipated trip like this where it should have worked flawlessly. We've taken necessary steps to ensure this type of issue doesn't happen again. Your obvious commitment to providing candid and honest feedback both to us and to your followers is appreciable. Thank you sir.
Thanks Nathan. I can see that the viewers appreciate you being open and honest about the issue and taking steps to ensure it will not be a problem going forward.
Hi, I really disagree !!! ANYONE riding that bike and hearing that pounding in the pipe burbling off idle and does not know THAT it is RICH (mean comment here) should not write a review.... just saying.... looked like very different kind of a place to ride...btw Also I feel it is a cheap shot over an o ring
@@davidciesielski8251 Greg at PNW Enduro owes his channel and viewership honesty when reviewing a product, especially one like this that he had already been covering in his videos prior and building anticipation over. He clearly knew something was wrong but was in no position to diagnose or fix it for his ride, which by the way was around 1,200 miles from home for him. We don't feel that it was a cheap shot to mention his trouble in this video. There was a defect in the o-ring caused during the installation process and we're happy to address it publicly both for Greg and any potential customer looking at this video while weighing a purchasing decision or even for those just curious about the technology. We stand behind our product, even when it goes wrong.
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems Was the carb working better hat higher speeds I’m kind of having the same issue but leaning it out kind of helps might just need a little more dialing in but definitely a concern of mine but mines not leaking at all so maybe I’m just adjusting wrong
@@SmartCarbFuelSystems it's pretty easy to check float level on these things, could have diagnosed the problem with just a flat head screwdriver.
This really isn't a reason not to buy one. Things happen, as long as they fix it and it's not a reoccurring issue. I'd definitely give it a second chance.
Honest reviews are the best reviews. Please keep us updated.
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I purchased a SmartCarb based on your previous reviews and it has been everything you talked about in your video. the SC2 wasn't available yet for me but needed it for a trip so went with the 38mm billet and returned my already bought Lectron.
Keep up the good work.
R u saying the lectron billet was returned? If not how is it? I have the lectron h series and love it going from Colorado 10,000ft down to Texas elevation only having to turn down idle only!
Fantastic places!! I love it....WOW! Keep it up....Bye from Italy! =)
Thanks for watching!
My SC2 is set to be delivered today. I'll be installing it this week and taking a trip to Colorado starting on the 31st. I'm anticipating a flawless trouble free trip with it. I'll be doing a review myself as my buddy will be riding a same year and size carburetor bike to compare with. I hate that this was your experience. Seem that TE owns their mistake and has worked to correct it.
FYI...most riding areas in CO have gotten a lot of snow in the last few days. Many good riding areas may not be open until August
Brett Bartolett We have modified our plans and are going to Montrose.
Had the same problem with a bad needle and seat in a lectron in my buddies bike as soon as we got to California this winter from Colorado. Sucks when you travel that long and have to fight s bike that don't run right. In my case, my smartcarb ran great though.
Yes, I'm glad I had a backup with me on this trip.
Not good news for me.. I have a SC2 in a box waiting to be installed. I appreciate your honest opinion. Its alot of money to spend not to be fully satisfied.
Z Shark, hopefully yours is problem free.
@@PNWEndurothanks.. ill make a video for sure on my results.
Z, if you have any questions, concerns, issues whatsoever please contact TE by phone, email, or social media. We're happy to answer any questions you may have. We've taken necessary steps to ensure that the needle seat o-ring isn't compromised during assembly.
My lectron has given me zero problems whatsoever for over two years. Going to test out their four stroke carb.
I will be purchasing a smart carb 2 for my 2011 KTM 300xc for sure. I love their on the fly adjustability + no worries dumping too much fuel on the ground.
I agree, it's very close to fuel injected performance without the added complexity.
That's a bummer, the version 1 I have ( same carb you tested ) was rich out of the box, had to lean it 4 clicks and running great currently, will see what happens soon as the snow is gone and up the mountain I'll go.
@Sandhills good to hear, keep us posted!
My smart carb had been flawless. On a yz250
I just received my SC2 last weekend right before my double header endurocross race and my carb was lean the bike would hang high idle. I've continued to work with TE and since sent it back for inspection. I totally understand your frustration. It pretty much cost me a full weekend of racing. I had no bottom end. Bike ran Amazing up top. Not really ideal for a soaking wet endurocross race. I hope they can remedy the situation quickly
Mike Taylor, sorry to hear that. I just got my SC2 back today but comments like this make me hesitant to put it back on.
@@PNWEnduro I am really hoping that the carb works again for you. I love the idea of the bike running super clean. But I am suspicious as well. Nathan and Corey from TE have been working with me on this issue but it still doesnt make it ok. I was really hoping to find something to share with my friends that was a great solution to the stock Carburetor on our KTM/HUSKYs. I'll remain positive and see if they can get mine to run as advertised when I get it back.
I've got the version 1 being shipped tomorrow from Dan Boettger Racing.. I hope I dont have any issues..I used your other video with lectron, mikuni and smart to make the decision. The major reason is fuel economy.. At the price of gas at the moment, if it performs well, it will pay for itself after a few seasons.
These carbys sound a bit like my blixt carby l run on my 500 jawa solo and the blixt are the bomb for a speedway bike
Hope your new bike is better
I notice the decel ding on the Lectron... I get the same thing. Have you fiddled with different metering rods at all? I haven't, but I've adjusted the stock rod richer and leaner, and when the bike performs best, I still have the ding. .
Maybe it doesn't matter, I've just always thought it was a weird behavior.
My Lectron came with a 4-2m rod. When they rebuilt it for me they put in a 4-2 which is slightly richer. I did not notice a difference though. Now the Lectron is back on I had to go 1/4 turn leaner so get better throttle response.
I have the Lectron on a 2018 KTM 300 XCW. Haven’t touched it except adjust idle slightly. I run the Amsoil Saber 80:1. Getting a lot drool, blubbery idle to 1/4 throttle, decel ding and slightly hard to start when warm. Stock plug is black. Riding Oregon trails 1300-3600 elevations temps 50-70 degree. I’m thinking the metering rod needs to be leaned out, unless there’s a better metering rod for my riding areas?
Mike Rasmussen I had to lean out the metering rod 1/2 turn and turn up idle on my lectron. Recently started drooling more. Turned out to be crank seal leaking a little. Back to normal now. Throw away the fuel line they give you and careful with the gasket when you adjust the metering rod. Other than that no issues
Sound like its running rich
Thanks for the honest review.
Was this problem accompanied by difficulties in starting the bike? I have a similar problem, in the beginning I thought about the altitude in the mountains, until I put a standard carburetor and compared. One day the bike starts up normally, the other just stops starting at an altitude of 2000 meters or there is very poor traction and detonation, as if it suffocates. That being said, clicks aren't particularly helpful. I have already checked everything a dozen times and re-read the instructions. I'm tired of just looking for a problem. I honestly don't know what to do. Problem with O-ring or needle. I am in another country and this is a big problem, we only have a few Smartcarb for Sherco. Smartcarb support has been silent since last week.
Yes, it did have difficulty starting. Make sure you have done the trim on the air boot and intake flange on your Sherco to run the SC2. Elevation changes should not affect this carb. Also make sure you have the correct metering rod in the carb.
My lectron ran like this which it then fouled the plug, sad to say I didn’t get to finish the Desert 100 I went about 60 miles. After talking with lectron and digging deeper into it the problem was the vent tubes on the bottom of the carburetor where plugged.
Damn, sucks to have that happen during the race.
Yeah I was was super disappointed. 5.5 hr drive home.
Bet they will help fix your issue fairly quick. I run a lectron only because I couldn't afford the smart carb, or I would have bought one.
I wanna see you run thay thing wide open when you get it back, I bought a 38mm cast for my 2018 250xc after your fist review and it would not run more than a couple seconds at wide open throttle. Even after working with TE, trying a richer rod, and sending it back and having it inspected it still would not run wide open. It was good till about 80% throttle then completely bogged out lean. A hand full of other users have had the same issue. I can say TE was good to work with and bought it back in the end.
While I want smart carb to succeed and I think they largely have, I love my lectron and have only ever had to adjust the idle. That’s a lot to say given it’s on a 125 that’s trail ridden in the Appalachian Moutain from Tennessee up to West Virginia. We have notoriously bad air quality. My average elevation in 1500 to 3000ft but even at 1500ft the da is 3000..... My ancient Mikuni was just a gigantic pain in the butt.
Nothing is bullet proof but thanks for the in sight to possible problem areas with the smart carb
I had to return mine also. The carb really didn’t fit right (had to remove reed valve spacer) with a 1mm larger diameter spring on the rear damper. Then the TPS didn’t work at all.
Disappointed since I had good results with my very early original- although since it was an early one, it took some fettling to get right.
Been watching ur videos and was wondering what psi and compression and rebound settings are you running in your air forks? Looks like in the north west mountains the terrain is pretty rough. I appreciate your honesty on the SmartCarb/2. I will probably still buy one and hopefully they will have addressed the quality control on the o-rings. I wonder if the seals can be serviced?
@KTM Trailrider My forks have been re-valved for my weight and also have the SKF glide kit installed. I'm running 130 psi now, before the re-valve I was at 120 psi. I don't remember the clicker settings as I have not touched them since the re-valve. The air forks are so adjustable I don't think I will bother with re-valving on my next bike. Also the it's easy to change the oil on the air forks I do it every 40 hrs or so. Yes I believe all the o-rings and seals can be serviced on the SC.
Before I got to the end I was thinking an O-Ring seal had failed. Wonder if v1 is better? I was leaning towards a SC2 but now I may pull trigger for Lectron on 2018 XC.
The SC2 is better than the prior 4 generations of 36-40mm billet SmartCarbs in numerous ways including improved fitment, a wider variety of stock throttle cable acceptance, internal vent passage routing, tolerance, etc. The issue at hand with this particular unit was that the needle seat o-ring was torn during assembly at the factory and steps have been taken to ensure that it doesn't happen again.
Go with the SC2 you won't be disappointed! Mine is working perfectly! (just need a tad of idle adjustment). Bike never felt that good (KTM 300 2017)
Nathan Dyess It makes sense that they have introduced quality control in the factory process to address this issue. Hopefully this solves it.
If I was SmartCarb I would offer PNW another carb for a redo. Of course the true test will be hownir works at elevation. Riding between Texas and Colorado is the main reason to get one. I don’t like wasting time jetting and want a crisp carb and not yet ready to goto TPI due to the single point of failure (oil pump).
I noticed you have quite a bit of the decel popping as well. “Pipe bang”
The pipe bang is bad with the SC2 on my bike, but is running really good otherwise. Normally ride at McNutt. I had to tune it not per the manual though which is kind of concerning. Wouldn’t idle out of the box and leaning the clicker out after break in didn’t raise it either.
Had to turn the idle in 1 full turn for a low idle and the clicker was near perfect. Went 1 click richer.
I just wish it idled higher and didn’t make my bike clack so bad on decel.
Have you checked your reeds? A cracked or not sealing red could cause your issues.
hey PNW just installed a smartcarb 2 on my 2018 250xc i was wondering what settings you were using im on the 11 meterering rod at about 81 clicks out... just curious what u had it at when it was running good. i took my bike out today and it ran so amazing....
A-Q11 rod at 72 clicks, this is how TE set it up for me.
PNW Enduro they set me up at 78 clicks but I was getting a tiny bit of spoog 3 clicks leaner fixed that
Dose it run lean as hell on top end or is it just my 300
If your 300 is running lean on top then there are a few things we can do. It's possible that the vent scoop is partially obstructed inside of the airboot, causing a lack of fuel driving force in the float bowl. Some airboots require the trim and if the scoop is blocked it can cause top end lean running. It's also possible that you may need a step richer rod to provide more fuel in the mid to top range. We'd be happy to discuss your setup and ensure you have the right rod installed. If the lean running happens after a sustained amount of WOT riding then we may also want to look at fuel tank venting and fuel flow into the carb and/or the float level being a little too low.
Please reach out directly if you haven't already, we'd be happy to assist your tuning efforts to get the most out of your SmartCarb.
This carb was on while you were riding in the PNW prior to this trip? Wouldn't the needle seat o-ring issue have caused issues there as well?
It was for two rides, carb ran a little rich and then got worse. As per TE it would have just continued to get worse if it I kept running it with the defect. Once I got it back from being repaired it ran flawless.
If you knew it was lean why not adjust the clicks and do a plug check? Also did you complete your heat cycles with it before this happened?
Did you watch the whole video?
@@PNWEnduro stopped halfway thru. Wife came out of grocery store
Wow, extensive blubbery rich off idle, that's unfortunate. Can hear that poppinng on decel from rich unburned fuel as well.
BTW, was that Sovereign Trail? Looks kinds familiar.
Yeah it was a bummer to go ride such a cool new place only to have the bike not run well. This is north of Moab.
@@doubledragon5750 LOL
The video ends with you boxing the carb. Are you returning for refund or will you try it again after repair?
Technology Elevated has diagnosed the problem and made the repairs, they will be sending it back to me. As to when I'll try it again, I'm not sure at this point.
@@PNWEnduro I think you should give a try again, this issue can happen for any carb, it's an O ring issue, not a carb issue and the SC I think is really the best (didn't tried the STIC) that I have encountered
What’s the warranty? If the faulty o-ring cooked your engine would smart carb buy you a new bike?
I can't speak for them but I don't think so. Running too rich should not cook the motor though.
Speaking for them, SmartCarbs come with a 6 month warranty against manufacture and workmanship defects. In this case, as PNW mentioned, the faulty o-ring caused a rich condition which would not have cooked the engine. It does fall under a workmanship defect however and we would certainly cover any material liability that the defect may have caused.
Any update on the SC2?
Reno 1960 I’m just working on a final review video, should be up on TH-cam in a few weeks. In short, it was great once I got it back.
@@PNWEnduro Cool. Looking forward to your review.
OMG is the same REASON why i removed my also from my 05 yz325 big bore kit!
May I ask what handguards you have?
I am using the Tusk handguards. Chraper and stronger than the Cycra's I had before. These are the ones.... www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-d-flex-pro-handguards-p?PID=8340296&ref=cj&cjevent=5e2e0f547bce11e9816c00730a1c0e0e
Wellllll... crap. Could this have been a fuel issue?
Never mind, now I have seen the whole video and you answered that question. This is the first negative thing I have seen on the smart carb. I am seriously considering one but I am worried now.
@RacerRed, I'm told the issue has been fixed going forward. I should be getting the SC2 back in a week or so. I don't really like posting negative reviews but I felt to be fair to the viewers I should share my full experience with the product.
PNW Enduro awesome that this issue should be fixed, though. I am the same way about reviews. I only do positive ones for the most part because I only use stuff that works. This carb seems like a great option. I still think its the best on the market, as long as the issue is fixed
I'll just stay with my aftermarket mikuni flat slide 36.
Keihin Forever
Should never of left lectron.. those things are perfect 👌🤘💯 spend more money on the smart carb just for it to let you down and break... What a crock of shit!!!
Guess you did not watch the whole video or my other videos on the SC2 for that matter. The SC2 is a superior carb to the Lectron in my experience.
@@PNWEnduro na man I did I did. I just love mine and for that reason I'm loyal to it.. they are both super technology for the 2t engine . But I do love the fact that in reality you had to actually put the lectron back on for bike to enjoy your day . That for me sells it 😉😜🤘💨💨🖤
All good Gareth, I know the guys at Technology Elevated were pretty disappointed they sent me one with a fault, they did fix it for me though.
Not worth the money to begin with. Out of all the hard enduro riders out there please tell me how many use a different type of carb?? I’m pretty sure it’s either non( that I’ve heard of) or very little. As for the economy benefit I think you’d have to ride for bloody years and years to make up the initial outlay in dollars saved on fuel.