Glad you liked my video clip! It is a Top Flite Green Box Nobler. I have been away from model flying for about 50 years. I learned to fly CL in the mid fifties. After retirement I built a small trainer and I discovered that I could still fly CL. Later on I built the Nobler. Now I am working on a profile model of my own design with a 650 sq inch wing for an OS 46 LA. Great fun!
Brings back a lot of old memories of the George Aldrich Nobler. I built one in 1961 with a Fox 35 Stunt and had many wonderful hours with it. Built Bob Palmers Thunderbird and still have the model hanging on the wall with the silk span all tattered. The Thunderbird with the upright engine was easy to start and fly. Tried getting the fuel proofer but they seem to have run out of production. Even Britfix in England do not manufacture them anymore. I used Pactra Aero Gloss on both the T Bird and the Nobler.
Great stuff.I am recently retired and getting back on the lines. I have just finished a slightly modified Nobler with an OS MAX 29. Man I love that direct control , I can feel every movement of the plane in flight. Give me the raw sound of a nitro motor over electric. There is an enthusiastic following of C/l Downunder here in Kiwiland.
Thanks for posting. Beautiful landing! Never underestimate the value of stunt flaps. That close to the ground- control is everything! Like you I have been putting off getting back into this hobby over 45 years and still have half-finished projects to build. Just last summer I found a field owned by a guy who flies international speed competition! So the door is open and I am ready. The first time I saw a Nobler /Fox .35 combination flying stunt I was in love. The guy four-cycled the engine and did wing-overs with reverse pullouts... the engine would peak at just the right time. Poetry in motion. I am determined one day to be that good. RC can never compare.
Very cool. I love Noblers. I am getting close to finishing a Top Flight Jr. Nobler. My dad bought several kits about 40 years ago. I am 63. Dad is 81 and in better health than I am, but I still fly. Im going to use a Os Max 20. I cut my teeth on a Baby Flightstreek when i was 12. Had many planes I built throughout the years. my next plane was a Guillow Trainer with a Torpedo 35 my dad crashed and i put back together. Many Combats planes and the latest 2 Banshees with Fox 35s and a P51 by Sterling and another Guillows 35 Trainer with a Brand new McCoy 35 bought by a man who never started it. Still having fun. Loved your video Lars!!!
HI GREAT JOB BTW. I BUILT A NOBLER SOME 36YRS AGO,I THINK IT WAS A TOP FLIGHT KIT I WAS ONLY 13 SO IT WAS QWITE THE PROJECT. WAS A CONTROL LINE FANATIC BACK THEN. THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR VIDIO AND SOME GREAT MEMORIES.
I learnt to fly like this all by myself back in 1954. Nobody told me how to hold the handle. When I took up CL flying after my retirement, my brain was still programmed for the 1954 style, and it was impossible to reprogram it. The down line is at my index finger (like Bob Palmer I think, so I am in good company!)
I am glad that you liked my clip! It was uploaded 6 years ago (I was 69 then) Since then I have learnt to fly inside and outside loops and inverted flying and some beginners stunt flying. The clip is filmed in Sweden in the autumn as you can tell from the yellow leafs. Cheers, Lars
Its a real pleasure talking to yu Mr Lars ,since yu learnt sum exciting aerobatics i will be gald if yu can upload yur videos,its a must watch for me,in india controlline has taken a back seat ,radio control has taken over and i find it difficult to find sum good box type fuselage controlline aeromodel kits,we only have peace maker and magic that is profile fuselage though there is no dearth for engines, we have sum real good diesel engines and glow plug as well,Mr Lars can yu help me find a good box type aeromodel like yur nobler or sumthin like that i will be very greatfull for yur help...
A good control line model with a built up fuselage is the LEGACY 40, which you can order from www.brodak.com. I have built one and I use an OS 40 engine. It flies beautifully on 65 feet lines. A good trainer model is the SIG Akromaster powered an OS 15 engine on 50 or 55 feet lines. It can also be ordered from www.Brodak.com. Brodak has lots of different models. Search "Akromaster crash" in TH-cam. There you can see me flying my Akromaster. The crash didn´t do much damage. . The Akromaster is a robust design, easy to build and fly. Search for control line kit in eBay!
I owned a Nobler Sr. from Topflite back in 1965. It looked a bit larger than this one. I used a McCoy .35 instead of a Fox. I never completed that particular plane as I didn't have a Dremel in those days to hollow out the balsa block which covered the engine. As a kid I never had spare cash. I also thought the engine would overheat from lack of ventilation. I sold the plane for $10. I wish I had it back.
I learnt to fly like this all by myself back in 1954. Nobody told me how to hold the handle. When I took up CL flying after my retirement, my brain was still programmed for the 1954 style, and it was impossible to reprogram it. The down line is at my index finger. Like Bob Palmer I think, so I am in good company!
My nizzzze bird is painted like a P51 Mustang in the postwar Swedish Air Force. I am glad that you liked it! I also think that the ST NVA is better than the FOX original with the semi-flat needle.
I´m glad you liked my landing! I have two more clips on TH-cam. Search for "CL stunt flying 46la" and "Control line model Snowbird". It´s all filmed in Sweden.
I completely forgot how loud these were. I'd fly my comic wind right in the park or school next to my home to, I can't believe they let everyone fly without mufflers back then lol. went to a r/c field recently and everyone's flying electric, no nitro aloud.
If you get fuel from the local RC club you better add a lot of castor oil to it! The Fox35 Stunt is only partially cooled by air, it was designed to run on 29 percent castor oil. The hot oil that spewed out of the exhaust was taking away a lot of the heat. I love the old engines but the oil should be at least 50% castor. Good job on getting it on a 4-2-4 mode, that is when it is fun to fly. I hope to get back into CL one of these days soon. Thanks for the video!
Engine was very much mis-tuned for this combination. You mention Fox .35 ... many versions of Fox .35. If it was the classic Fox .35 Stunt, then it was way out of tun. Should have taken off on the edge of a 4 cycle, so that when pulled into maneuvers, it would speed up into a 2 cycle, giving you more power. In your case, whenever you tried a maneuver, it broke too lean and lost power. This video doesn't do justice to the aerobatic ability of the Nobler, a plane I owned and flew back in the 1960's.
Bill, you are absolutely right about tuning the FOX 35 and the aerobatic ability of the Nobler! In 2010 when the clip was filmed I was relatively new in CL flying. Now I know about the engine 4-2-4 cycle and I can also fly a basic stunt program! Best regards from Sweden, Lars
Although You are right with many of your points....sometimes its just nice to fly for fun! We all strive for perfection of tuning etc, but people have fun in different ways. I never had the opportunity to belong to a club.....or have any help from others as far as that matters. Everything I learned from control line was on my own. sometimes its very rewarding to learn that way. I since have belonged to a club & find that the hobby is taken so serious that many of the members suck the fun out of it.
Sounds very loud. Did it have on a muffler? For some reason most u/c flyers don't use mufflers. Hearing loss occurs over time because of that. The extra noise doesn't make these flyers good neighbors. Maybe that's why all these videos are done in some fsrmer's field out in the boondocks.
No muffler on that flight. I always use earplugs. The field that I use is really out in the Swedish boodocks, so I don´t have any noise problems. I agree with Your comments.
@ricglos, Sorry about you heel and the 91 dollars! The engine has never died in the vertical position so I don´t know what would happen. Probably a crash. I keep flying and hope for the best!
I took out a 1/2A model for the first time in over 10 years the other day. I wish that I had burned off half the fuel on the first flight LOL... the normal Cox engine run seemed to be 10 minutes that time. Had I used 42' lines instead of 30' that might have helped..
I want to have a granddaughter and help her become the first USA National Champion in control line (unless a woman has done it before). I do not think a woman has ever achieved it.
Glad you liked my video clip! It is a Top Flite Green Box Nobler. I have been away from model flying for about 50 years. I learned to fly CL in the mid fifties. After retirement I built a small trainer and I discovered that I could still fly CL. Later on I built the Nobler. Now I am working on a profile model of my own design with a 650 sq inch wing for an OS 46 LA. Great fun!
Brings back a lot of old memories of the George Aldrich Nobler. I built one in 1961 with a Fox 35 Stunt and had many wonderful hours with it. Built Bob Palmers Thunderbird and still have the model hanging on the wall with the silk span all tattered. The Thunderbird with the upright engine was easy to start and fly. Tried getting the fuel proofer but they seem to have run out of production. Even Britfix in England do not manufacture them anymore. I used Pactra Aero Gloss on both the T Bird and the Nobler.
Great stuff.I am recently retired and getting back on the lines. I have just finished a slightly modified Nobler with an OS MAX 29. Man I love that direct control , I can feel every movement of the plane in flight. Give me the raw sound of a nitro motor over electric. There is an enthusiastic following of C/l Downunder here in Kiwiland.
Thanks for posting. Beautiful landing! Never underestimate the value of stunt flaps. That close to the ground- control is everything!
Like you I have been putting off getting back into this hobby over 45 years and still have half-finished projects to build. Just last summer I found a field owned by a guy who flies international speed competition! So the door is open and I am ready.
The first time I saw a Nobler /Fox .35 combination flying stunt I was in love. The guy four-cycled the engine and did wing-overs with reverse pullouts... the engine would peak at just the right time. Poetry in motion. I am determined one day to be that good. RC can never compare.
Very cool. I love Noblers. I am getting close to finishing a Top Flight Jr. Nobler. My dad bought several kits about 40 years ago. I am 63. Dad is 81 and in better health than I am, but I still fly. Im going to use a Os Max 20. I cut my teeth on a Baby Flightstreek when i was 12. Had many planes I built throughout the years. my next plane was a Guillow Trainer with a Torpedo 35 my dad crashed and i put back together. Many Combats planes and the latest 2 Banshees with Fox 35s and a P51 by Sterling and another Guillows 35 Trainer with a Brand new McCoy 35 bought by a man who never started it. Still having fun. Loved your video Lars!!!
Beautiful video and a very nicely built Nobler. Fox made most of my favorite motors.
Brought back a lot of beautiful memories - had one in the 50's :)
I had a model with a Fox35X Stunt in it , The one with the square intake , This used to 4 2 4 Lovely , Nice flying keep it up
alan manning The square intake or the venture is that of a “Combat Fox 35 “ engine.
I remember watching George Aldrich fly this in the 1950s. He could do miraculous maneuvers.
HI GREAT JOB BTW. I BUILT A NOBLER SOME 36YRS AGO,I THINK IT WAS A TOP FLIGHT KIT I WAS ONLY 13 SO IT WAS QWITE THE PROJECT. WAS A CONTROL LINE FANATIC BACK THEN. THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR VIDIO AND SOME GREAT MEMORIES.
Haven't seen that combo of plane/engine in years. Looks like it was a lot of fun :)
I learnt to fly like this all by myself back in 1954. Nobody told me how to hold the handle. When I took up CL flying after my retirement, my brain was still programmed for the 1954 style, and it was impossible to reprogram it. The down line is at my index finger (like Bob Palmer I think, so I am in good company!)
i love controlline aeromodeling,this is butiful,iam from india and apreciate yur reflexes at this age Mr Lars ..
I am glad that you liked my clip! It was uploaded 6 years ago (I was 69 then) Since then I have learnt to fly inside and outside loops and inverted flying and some beginners stunt flying. The clip is filmed in Sweden in the autumn as you can tell from the yellow leafs. Cheers, Lars
Its a real pleasure talking to yu Mr Lars ,since yu learnt sum exciting aerobatics i will be gald if yu can upload yur videos,its a must watch for me,in india controlline has taken a back seat ,radio control has taken over and i find it difficult to find sum good box type fuselage controlline aeromodel kits,we only have peace maker and magic that is profile fuselage though there is no dearth for engines, we have sum real good diesel engines and glow plug as well,Mr Lars can yu help me find a good box type aeromodel like yur nobler or sumthin like that i will be very greatfull for yur help...
A good control line model with a built up fuselage is the LEGACY 40, which you can order from www.brodak.com. I have built one and I use an OS 40 engine. It flies beautifully on 65 feet lines. A good trainer model is the SIG Akromaster powered an OS 15 engine on 50 or 55 feet lines. It can also be ordered from www.Brodak.com. Brodak has lots of different models. Search "Akromaster crash" in TH-cam. There you can see me flying my Akromaster. The crash didn´t do much damage. . The Akromaster is a robust design, easy to build and fly. Search for control line kit in eBay!
Thank yu so much Mr Lars ,il try ordering from brodak..
I owned a Nobler Sr. from Topflite back in 1965. It looked a bit larger than this one. I used a McCoy .35 instead of a Fox. I never completed that particular plane as I didn't have a Dremel in those days to hollow out the balsa block which covered the engine. As a kid I never had spare cash. I also thought the engine would overheat from lack of ventilation. I sold the plane for $10. I wish I had it back.
That's what I had once upon a time. The engine I used was K&B Stallion .35 that my in-laws got me for my birthday.
I learnt to fly like this all by myself back in 1954. Nobody told me how to hold the handle. When I took up CL flying after my retirement, my brain was still programmed for the 1954 style, and it was impossible to reprogram it. The down line is at my index finger. Like Bob Palmer I think, so I am in good company!
There is no right or wrong in it! Fly like you want & enjoy!!!
I am glad that you found my clip from Påldalen! Not long ago I uploaded another clip from Påldalen: Search for CL stunt flying. Engine OS 46LA
My nizzzze bird is painted like a P51 Mustang in the postwar Swedish Air Force.
I am glad that you liked it! I also think that the ST NVA is better than the FOX original with the semi-flat needle.
flying old school I love it :o)
Don´t worry my friend, the poor FOX´s lungs are still in good working order and the engine is nowadays run in a healthy 4-2-4 mode
Nobler is my favorite plane !!!!.
I´m glad you liked my landing! I have two more clips on TH-cam. Search for
"CL stunt flying 46la" and "Control line model Snowbird". It´s all filmed in Sweden.
I completely forgot how loud these were. I'd fly my comic wind right in the park or school next to my home to, I can't believe they let everyone fly without mufflers back then lol. went to a r/c field recently and everyone's flying electric, no nitro aloud.
I used to fly my Nobler/Fox 35 in a rich 4 stroke that broke into a strong 2 cycle for manouvers...this model is flying waaay to fast...
This clip was filmed many years ago. I was a beginner then. I didn´t know about the FOX 4/2 stroke then.
Filmed at Påldalen. I was a member of the club when we first started preparing that field. It's grown a bit since then.
OK, take your models down from the pool barn, get some fuel from the local RC club
and have a go at CL flying again! It´s great fun (as you know!)
If you get fuel from the local RC club you better add a lot of castor oil to it! The Fox35 Stunt is only partially cooled by air, it was designed to run on 29 percent castor oil. The hot oil that spewed out of the exhaust was taking away a lot of the heat. I love the old engines but the oil should be at least 50% castor. Good job on getting it on a 4-2-4 mode, that is when it is fun to fly. I hope to get back into CL one of these days soon. Thanks for the video!
Engine was very much mis-tuned for this combination. You mention Fox .35 ... many versions of Fox .35. If it was the classic Fox .35 Stunt, then it was way out of tun. Should have taken off on the edge of a 4 cycle, so that when pulled into maneuvers, it would speed up into a 2 cycle, giving you more power. In your case, whenever you tried a maneuver, it broke too lean and lost power. This video doesn't do justice to the aerobatic ability of the Nobler, a plane I owned and flew back in the 1960's.
Bill, you are absolutely right about tuning the FOX 35 and the aerobatic ability of the Nobler! In 2010 when the clip was filmed I was relatively new in CL flying. Now I know about the engine 4-2-4 cycle and I can also fly a basic stunt program! Best regards from Sweden, Lars
@@LARS9185 Well done for someone who at this point was just learning!!!
Although You are right with many of your points....sometimes its just nice to fly for fun! We all strive for perfection of tuning etc, but people have fun in different ways. I never had the opportunity to belong to a club.....or have any help from others as far as that matters. Everything I learned from control line was on my own. sometimes its very rewarding to learn that way. I since have belonged to a club & find that the hobby is taken so serious that many of the members suck the fun out of it.
Sounds a little lean for the pattern.
40-50 yars ago I ran this combo. amoung many others. I used Fox fuel or som times my own mix using reagent quality components and BakerAA Castor.
Ray Hansen Clarence Lee was a good influence on many of us in the 50’s to 80’s. He liked the Bakers AA.
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wow very cooooool airplane with wire control,,,
i did that before with a cox plane in 1970's
Sounds very loud. Did it have on a muffler? For some reason most u/c flyers don't use mufflers. Hearing loss occurs over time because of that. The extra noise doesn't make these flyers good neighbors. Maybe that's why all these videos are done in some fsrmer's field out in the boondocks.
No muffler on that flight. I always use earplugs. The field that I use is really out in the Swedish boodocks, so I don´t have any noise problems. I agree with Your comments.
4 stroke in level flight and 2 stroke in vertical climb?
Had a Ringmaster......paid 8.00 in 1972! And 15.00 for Fox .35!
Only the control line veterans fly with the handle to the side like that...
Yes. And only real pilots fly with the handle a vertical position. Both are fine. Who cares anyway...........?
@ricglos,
Sorry about you heel and the 91 dollars! The engine has never died in the vertical position
so I don´t know what would happen. Probably a crash. I keep flying and hope for the best!
Joli ! il vole super bien ce modèle !
Träna på så syns vi på nån tävling :)
I think half the fuel tank was gone by take off time.
So.....he was having fun!!!!
I took out a 1/2A model for the first time in over 10 years the other day. I wish that I had burned off half the fuel on the first flight LOL... the normal Cox engine run seemed to be 10 minutes that time. Had I used 42' lines instead of 30' that might have helped..
I want to have a granddaughter and help her become the first USA National Champion in control line (unless a woman has done it before). I do not think a woman has ever achieved it.
Det blir nog inte många poäng för mig, men jag kan åtminstone göra runda loopar!
Was ist dis hier "Nobler"? Ist gut, ya?