Just wanted to say THANK YOU! S-VCM eliminated the grinding noise (vibration) I mentioned (I can still feel something very small slightly, but it has 135K). The installation was very simple, but I really appreciate your clip (nice to watch the clip before). Thank you again.
What is your city mpg? I just got a 2016 odyssey van before I knew all this and mpg is horrible 14 mpg. I am getting the vcm disabled this week. Do you think the mpg will be better? It has 77,000 miles on it. Thx for your videos.
I’m about to buy one, too. Just got a 2011 odyssey. We use to have an ‘08 Odyssey & it was powerful & did not have the vcm feature. This ‘11 is nice but I don’t like the difference the vcm makes.
My culprit was cylinder #2 that was misfiring. I just replaced that one plug for now. I have 6 Denso Iridium plugs on the way along with a S-VCM unit. Looking forward to dependability!
I've just buyed a 09 loaded Odyssey for 850$ . I live in Québec,Canada ,where rust is a big issues, we just dont see clean rust free 3rd gen Odyssey , mine ((my 3rd Currently owning)). come from vancouver and is absolutely pristine ! First drive everything goes well in residential street,I've floored entering the highway , good torque/vtech kicked dry-hard , yhea ,,, then skibidipopop , everything in the dash light on , no more steering assistance ,,, engineblowned ... I wil linstall a 3.7ltrs from a mdx in it this winther .
I've always loved these 4th gen pre-facelift Odysseys but hated the bs VCM system. Glad to see that there's a way to bypass it. I'll be in the market for this gen Odyssey once my third gen gives up on me or I get into an accident and survive lmao
I just installed the S-VCM on my 2011 Honda Odyssey (75,930 mi.) this morning and then took it for a test drive. The engine seems to be running smoother and I can tell there is more power there when going from just cruising to accelerating. I paid $95.00 plus $11.00 shipping for this item and I was a bit disappointed when I got it. It is quite small and there isn't much to it. It comes with detailed installation instructions which insist you must follow in strict order. When I did that I found that after using the tiny zip ties provided I could not connect the S-VCM to the sensor because it wasn't long enough. I had to cut the ties, connect to the sensor, and then use my own zip ties (recommended) to secure the electrical harnesses.
After carefully checking the kit. Its nothing but a potentiometer/resistor. Not much to it really. I bought an 80 cent resistor and does the same. Still have that 80 cent.l resistor today
Thanks. Unfortunately for the consumer, Honda dealers will not disclose this information that way they can increase their profits on ring jobs, engine mounts and misfire diagnosis. I hope every potential Honda odyssey minivan/pilot buyer will read this email to educate themselves from making a long term reoccurring expensive mistake..
That which you have installed is probably just a resistor hidden under the cabling sheath and cost 50 cents. I will say it has proper connectors and can be uninstalled at will.
Where did you buy the disable kit? Does 2005 and 2016 Honda Odyssey both have one? How come the car sell man never mention this feature when we bought 2016? I inherited 2005 from my relative. Thanks. Where did you buy this kit? Let me know thanks
I've got one of the S-VCM ordered for my 2010 Pilot. I bought the car a few weeks back and noticed my exhaust tips get some black around them in the few weeks I've owned the car and started researching what would cause that. I didn't know anything about the cylinders cutting out for ECO mode but this VCM stuff seems like a bad idea if it makes an otherwise good engine burn oil. Anyway, I hope my S-VCM gets here soon!
@@bryans8193 not really.I sold it for the samd price i bought it for. Replaced it with an 80 cent resistor,then when I did my timing belt. I ended up swapping thermostat to a lower temp rating. Literally dods the same thing as the svcm controller.
Great video. From reading the comments it looks like you took this off and just went with the 82ohm resistor method. I put the simple 82ohm resistor in from a kit on Amazon and it has worked great for a couple months but yesterday out of the blue on the highway the ECO light started coming on. The strange thing was ECO was coming on when I was accelerating not coasting like it used to normally work. I was thinking about putting one in like you have in the video because the simple 82ohm resistor method doesn't hook up to the battery like yours did. Do you have any suggestions?
@@FlipSideGarage I think it might have been a very hot day so I probably need to change the resistor for the summer. I decided to go for the S-VCM and just ordered one. It's worth it to not have to change resistors all the time I guess.
Hate to tell you but my transmission started to run hit or something. Affecting the torque converter. The dealer said we needed transmission. I unhooked the device and changed my fluid transmission works fine. I imagine the fan wasn't come on to keep trans cooler cool. Or engine
The problem is the far back bank 3 cylinder are made into a compressor no spark or valve action but it forces compression with no where to go except pass the rings, causing the rings to fail and pass oil causing oil consumption and excessive blowby. Which unit did you use for your 2011? mine is a 2009?
Great instruction! One quick question, what is the name/term for the terminal in the fuse box that you connect to instead of the positive terminal of the battery? Thanks!
Thanks very much appreciate your video showing the install, was looking into the muzzler at first but researching SVCM, it appears to be the superior solution.
@@FlipSideGarage Yeah totally agree no adjustments necessary, its the way to go. Just curious, have u noticed a marginal or significant decrease in MPG after the install over the 2 mths.
Great Video, I'm stupid when it comes to cars and was able to do this. It turned off Eco mode...one strange thing that happened was after install I turned on car and it wanted a pin? it went away
@@FlipSideGarage Thanks! I got one more question. I sometimes feel a bit little more rattling with the engine that goes away. Could this be due to the device not being secured properly - or is it from the 6 cylinders constantly going off?
@@FlipSideGarage I just bought a 2012 Honda Accord V6 3.5 engine with a 121,000.00 miles on it. After doing some reading on the web, after I bought my car, I learned that the VCM causes a lot of problems! A couple of days ago, I found out about this S-VCM controller, and bought one for safe measure, however with the high mileage on my car, would installing this device damage my engine even further?
Will this enable a P0128 overtime? Especially when it gets cold outside in the winter? I have a 2014 Honda Odyssey. I got it about 11 months ago and it had 106,000 miles on it. I now have 131,000 and every time I come to a stop sign and it down shifts pretty rough. Every time I let off the gas between 40-10 mph. I’m pretty sure this is the ego kicking on and off because when I first start the engine cold the first five minutes of driving around when it’s below middle and the echo is not turning on it drives really smooth and I am seriously considering installing one of these. Is there an adjustment that needs to be made between seasons? How does this thing work? Is it electromagnetic?
My 2020 pilot I'm installing it tmw got it tonight in mail.i hate eco mode I put it on to try it and totally killed the feeling my car big difference driving it.totally bogs car down and shifts odd and drags ass.cant wait to install it
I really it makes no difference in gas mileage what 2 gallons difference if driving at 55 mph lol who does that lol .if I saw a difference it killed my gas mileage lol and I was 1/2 lower on oil and almost 1 quart down
Well I did it finally 2 days ago after this comments.i disabled it with s vcm .car has been an absolute dream now.the shudder at 2k is gone.i actually have heat now when at idle.the car runs better then it did brand new.i did a 3x drain and fill also for the 6spd trannys getting smoked from vcm and over heating the fluid.the car drives differently smooth and has more power since deactivated vcm.wish I knew this 9 months ago when I bought it next test is oil I was down 1 quart by 40% also changed pcv valve too.i did fresh tranny fluid and oil change 2 days I'll do another drain and fill in 15k miles and my next oil change I check I'll check the oil at 40 % when I do oil change.i do it at 40% every time to keep it clean.i do all my own work big on preventive maintenance as all my hondas had 300k to 450k and my 91 accord is at 980k.but all accords from 86 to 91,99 ,2000 accords
Thanks for the video! I'm getting reading to install the S-VCM in my 2012 Odyssey. @1:57 you mentioned that you preferred to run the S-VCM power wire to the fuse box rather than to the battery terminal. Why did you prefer to do that? Thx!
Cleaner look mainly. I try to not add small things at the terminal as the more it gets loosened and tightened. The terminal on the post becomes loose. Fuse box to me is cleaner and less chance of corrosion.
Had this for 2 years now on my 10th gen accord and motor is more smoother and les oil consumption. Before this the motor consume 1qt/1000miles now it's only 1/4 per 3000 miles. No more foul plugs.
Hi ! , your video helped me which one to choose , svcm or muzzler , I’m receiving mine soon ! I was wondering how things going with the s-vcm so far, and thanks again and happy holidays !
good morning. my svcm has been working great. I drive the van everyday and have not had any issues. i love it. if you dont mind subscribing. id greatly appreciate it,
@@FlipSideGarage Thank you again. I will try S-VCM then see what's next. Do you think if non- dealer mech can replace the motor mounts? Just found the delaer price to replace the mounts is somewhere from 1,200-1,500.
1-2mpg diff. Id sacrifice that over the bad effect from the VCM. Motor mounts,half of the cyl banks oerworked,oil consumption,etc. I absoultely hate the vcm.lol
Call Honda about this I have a 2012 with only 130k and they said to bring it into the dealer as this is covered by their extended warranty. Not sure what their fix is but am anxious to see. Have an appt booked for next week. So anyone with this issue get this fixed on their fine, not yours.
Sorry I keep commenting but bro for that battery bolt can I use a Philip's head screw driver to remove it instead of a 10mm cuz the top is a Phillips head ?
Does the S-VCM effect when the electric radiator fans kick on, meaning does it allow the engine to operate at a higher coolant temperature? Thanks in advance. 😃
@@FlipSideGarage Thanks. Good to know. It's my understanding that you have had S-VCM on your Honda for well over a year without issue. This is reassuring. 😃
@@jamescourier1545 well i did for close to a year or so. Ended up taking it off,selling it and phtting an 80 cent resistor in between. Afterall... 99 bucks compared to 80 cents.lol
@@FlipSideGarage the problem is that whenever I disconnect and reconnect the battery the check engine light goes away and the Eco mode appears when I am driving. What could be the cause?
I got the VCM tuner that I manually turn the resistance 0 to 100. Been trying 40 to 55 on it and although the ECO light comes off I still get the shaking while accelerating after a cruising speed on the Highway. I don't get the shaking at low speeds though. I don't understand why it still shakes even if ECO isn't being turned on. Or is it being activated but not showing the ECO light? Anyways it doesn't seem to be working that well, so I'll switch to S-VCM. I bought a 2011 Honda Crosstour with 70K miles two weeks ago. Low enough mileage that the engine is still working fine. Previous owner never used a VCM tuner. Didn't know about this problem when I bought the car, but after some research I was glad to know there is a solution. I just bought the wrong product.
Forgot about this comment. Update! I did get s-vcm and still got the shakes, but Eco light stayed off for good. Turns out it was the CV Axel half shaft going bad. Replaced both of them and now car is running smooth
My s-vcm controller was defective. When I tried to start my 2012 Pilot after installing, the engine didn’t want to turn over. It finally did after 3 tries but idled at a very low 500 rpm. The idle lined out close to normal after about a minute. I carefully drove to work and all went well with VCM not engaging. I noticed the coolant gauge temperature never moved off cold which I know is a problem. Starting the engine after work was once again a struggle but not as bad as earlier that day probably due to a higher ambient temperature. It drove home fine after getting going with the coolant reading again staying on cold. I tested when I got home by disconnecting the power from the controller and the coolant reading was normal in between cold and hot. All that being said, the s-vcm support was extremely responsive and apologetic. They confirmed it was installed correctly after reviewing my photos. A replacement controller was mailed out immediately. Hopefully it will work as designed this time around! I’m pumped because I did get to experience VCM not engaging after getting past the startup issues and it was as everyone has been describing.
If the ECM does not receive a Normal Operating Temp notification the ECO will not be enabled. The ECM also requires a Normal Operating Temp notification to enable the EGR Valve to operate. Does this SVCM manage this issue?
I bought this and I’m about to install it on a 2013 Acura RDX. Hooking the controller directly to the battery worries me a bit. I’ve read that some guys have gotten fuses instead. Did you disconnect one of the battery terminals before disconnecting the wiring harness connected to the ECT?
Is there any downside to connect the black wire to that box instead of the battery? And did you have to do anything special to the box to connect that wire to it?
No difference in overall purpose other than aesthetics. I like to make it look as close to oem as I can. No other modification. That wire is just for power
I am getting the svcm for my 2012 Honda Pilot just bought the Pilot like 3 months ago I didn’t know about this. I don’t fill any problem driving the car but I am putting it on my car. I wonder if the dealer or someone else did the pistons rings already it has 125000 miles on it?
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 i wouldnt really say its a diy as it will be soldered in line of the temp signal wire..basically same as what this svcm will do without the plug and play feature.
Fuel economy isnt the concern for this modification. Id rather have all my cylinders working at all times. I did lose 1-2 mpg which is not a big deal to me. I did end up selling the svcm and placed a 90 cent resistor which is what all this is.
@@TehDrewsus maintenance is what helps the gas mileage. Im at 20 city and about 25 highway. This mod helps pull all the weight of a heavy van. I wouldnt worry to much on gas as this mod would help sace ur piston rings,02 Sensors,cat,spark plugs, and motor mounts.
@@FlipSideGarage yes, again I just wanted to know if and how much fuel economy was effected. I'm aware of what vcm can do to an engine, and was just curious if there was a big impact to gas mileage
@@TehDrewsus Again. Fuel mileage #s are vague as it varies every van. I stated what fuel mileage i get. The fact that i maintain my van and keep it running at top notch is why I get great mileage even with vcm mod.You do know that fuel mileage is affected by number of things and the vcm mod isnt really one of them?
Premature engine failure, oil burn, motor mount replacement, and loafing extra engine drag, etc far outweigh a couple measly MPGs gained. There are lawsuits over Honda screwing their customers. I'd say it's a big deal. Did you end up buying one of these?
@@FlipSideGarage I guess I have not noticed if the vcm system is engaged in my ‘22 Honda… it has an eco button. But I don’t press it. It doesn’t have an ego light.. but does have a led bar that coordinates with in color with the instant mpg gauge.. How do I know if my car is shutting off cylinders?
@@FlipSideGarage I may be mistaken but activating the ECO on the newer models is only adjusting the transmission to shift more conservatively and does not impact VCM. Honda does not offer an option to deactivate VCM even on the newer models. I will say that VCM on the newer models is much more seamless and nearly impossible to notice the changes. I have a 2012 Pilot and my wife a 2018 Pilot.
@@ousoonerbg Things always sound better when its "new". Im sure the 4th gens sounded good to have ECO mode when it was new. It has been proven many times on the cons of the ECO mode overtime.
I got a question the wire you connected to the positive how will I know which screw in the fuse box is positive are both of them positive beacuse it has red paint on top ?
@@FlipSideGarage see thats what I'm worried about and the other terminal thats on the battery I already have another wire connected there for my led light bar I have .I'm trying to do this the right way instead of messing up
Hi 👋. I drive a 2012 Odyssey. My check engine light has been coming on the last year so I bought an OBD reader and it showed I needed spark plugs in bank 2 so I replaced all my spark plugs including the coil packs. Here I am 8 months later and I'm getting another check engine light for Bank One. Today driving on the freeway I've noticed for the fourth time puffs of smoke occasionally coming out of my tailpipe. Sometimes when I drive and I'm going from 20 to 40 mph the car will get a little sluggish but once I get to 40 it does okay. Am I needing one of those gadgets that you are using in this video? Please be patient with me as I have not had too much mechanical expertise and it's not because I am a woman but because, well I just don't work on cars that much:-)
@@FlipSideGarage I started getting puffs of smoke when driving 40-45 Mph on cruise. The oil got quite dirty in 1,5K miles winter driving (2 months), so I installed the VCM delete and changed the oil. So far it is doing quite well. Would you recommend to test the compression?
I have a 2010 crosstour with 130,000 miles and I am fouling #3 plug every month and using a quart of oil in the same time. My question is am I too late for this device to help ?
8 months ago I changed the timing belt , water pump and tension. When I removed the intake there was alot of oil in the intake runner and I was told that it was blow by because of a stuck EGR valve ? Hopefully that's where the oil is coming from ? When I get this installed I will update.
@@FlipSideGarage awesome thank you. I really noticed started noticing it lately van almost has 200,000 miles on it and when ECO engages on and off it’s pretty hard.
@@FlipSideGarage o ok. I think i get it. So it lowers the temp to about 30 degrees so the if ever it ever gets to a normal reading that would indicate a high temp?
@@pablomarquez4431 its only reading about 10% less just enough to not trigger eco mode. In the event its overheating. The piece will not prevent the gauge from letting driver know its overheating. It has 2 temp sensors from factory.
I just pulled the connector off the engine coolant temp sensor and then attempt to start the vehicle it won't start with the connector disconnect and sets a code and turns the ck engine light on so just reconnect the wire to the sensor and it will turn the ck engine light on but it also deactivates the VCM
IT'S ANNOYING TO SEE THAT ECO MODE AND FEEL THAT THE ENGINE JUMPS, BUT WHEN THE COOLANT SENSOR TEMPERATURE DROPS I DON'T CAPTURE THE HIGH GAS CONSUMPTION.
@@FlipSideGarage wait, so you diy yours and returned the s-vcm? With fixed resistor value, will it be troublesome to change diff resistor value out when climate is changed?
@@FlipSideGarage Thats another option I'm considering. My engine is still in good shape with no burning oil and spark plugs look good so I might try the resistor first. Also, RadioShacks still exist? Lol haven't seen one of those since I was in school
@Rumpleforeskin Thanks. However, I had a straight resistor (simpler setup than the S-VCM) plugged in the same location as where the S-VCM goes. The fans would not come on unless I turned the AC on. I removed the resistor and the fans worked normally again. I figured this out doing some maintenance that required two cycles of the cooling fans.
I would first checm the oil consumption. They are notorious for lots of newer acuras and hondas. My coworkers tsx suffered frim piston ring failure. Basicsly when you change your oil. Check the amount after about 50-100miles afterwards
@@FlipSideGarage no, never used premium gas. The engine may use some oil but I have never had to add oil between oil changes. The first misfire occurred at 53000 miles 4 years ago. It happened again recently at 65000 miles. The car is now used for short trips only, never on the highway for trips like before it happened the first time.
@@FlipSideGarage Thanks, I will look into that. You have given me great advice. I am definitely going to pursue disabling the vcm and following up on your suggestions.
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Just wanted to say THANK YOU!
S-VCM eliminated the grinding noise (vibration) I mentioned (I can still feel something very small slightly, but it has 135K). The installation was very simple, but I really appreciate your clip (nice to watch the clip before). Thank you again.
You are very welcome. Its not a fancy video,but hopefully its straight to the point:)
Where i can buy one please
1.5 years later. Motor running strong:)
Does the VCM kick in if the ECO mode is off?
@@JaRa911 vcm and eco is one
What is your city mpg? I just got a 2016 odyssey van before I knew all this and mpg is horrible 14 mpg. I am getting the vcm disabled this week. Do you think the mpg will be better? It has 77,000 miles on it. Thx for your videos.
I’m about to buy one, too. Just got a 2011 odyssey. We use to have an ‘08 Odyssey & it was powerful & did not have the vcm feature. This ‘11 is nice but I don’t like the difference the vcm makes.
@@JaRa911 🤦🏻😂
My culprit was cylinder #2 that was misfiring. I just replaced that one plug for now. I have 6 Denso Iridium plugs on the way along with a S-VCM unit. Looking forward to dependability!
Ordered one today, can't wait to install. Thanks for the video!
Hi. After installation the transmission began to work without poking and kicking?
@@sergserg8756 good to hear. I've had mine installed over a year and nothing but positive things to say!
Enjoy it!!
@@s.f.6616 It's been 2 years, how is it going now lol. Im about to order one.
@@camallen1895
Just like from day 1. No problems no issues.
Great buy in my book
Where do you buy?
I've just buyed a 09 loaded Odyssey for 850$ . I live in Québec,Canada ,where rust is a big issues, we just dont see clean rust free 3rd gen Odyssey , mine ((my 3rd Currently owning)). come from vancouver and is absolutely pristine !
First drive everything goes well in residential street,I've floored entering the highway , good torque/vtech kicked dry-hard , yhea ,,, then skibidipopop , everything in the dash light on , no more steering assistance ,,, engineblowned ...
I wil linstall a 3.7ltrs from a mdx in it this winther .
How’d it go?
I've always loved these 4th gen pre-facelift Odysseys but hated the bs VCM system. Glad to see that there's a way to bypass it.
I'll be in the market for this gen Odyssey once my third gen gives up on me or I get into an accident and survive lmao
Amen. Its the besr front end imo. I love mine
Yep. Getting mine installed next week!
How Did it go? Fuel mpg improved?
Ordered one last night .
Hope to get it next week 🙏
You will love it
How much was Customs cost to the USA?
@@MegaChuck51 it was 95 bucks.. with shipping it was 106 even
Where can I buy it ?
I just installed the S-VCM on my 2011 Honda Odyssey (75,930 mi.) this morning and then took it for a test drive. The engine seems to be running smoother and I can tell there is more power there when going from just cruising to accelerating. I paid $95.00 plus $11.00 shipping for this item and I was a bit disappointed when I got it. It is quite small and there isn't much to it. It comes with detailed installation instructions which insist you must follow in strict order. When I did that I found that after using the tiny zip ties provided I could not connect the S-VCM to the sensor because it wasn't long enough. I had to cut the ties, connect to the sensor, and then use my own zip ties (recommended) to secure the electrical harnesses.
After carefully checking the kit. Its nothing but a potentiometer/resistor. Not much to it really. I bought an 80 cent resistor and does the same. Still have that 80 cent.l resistor today
D'oh!
Thanks. Unfortunately for the consumer, Honda dealers will not disclose this information that way they can increase their profits on ring jobs, engine mounts and misfire diagnosis. I hope every potential Honda odyssey minivan/pilot buyer will read this email to educate themselves from making a long term reoccurring expensive mistake..
That I can agree.
That which you have installed is probably just a resistor hidden under the cabling sheath and cost 50 cents. I will say it has proper connectors and can be uninstalled at will.
thats all it is
I always wondered what kind of resistor it is.
Very helpful video! Can you send the link where you purchased this? Thanks!
I wona do this to my 2012 accord v6 3.5 auto cause VCM sucks .it's messing up my engine .good video tho man.
yup best investment
Ok ! I found out ,don’t bother , and thanks again!
Where did you buy the disable kit? Does 2005 and 2016 Honda Odyssey both have one? How come the car sell man never mention this feature when we bought 2016? I inherited 2005 from my relative. Thanks. Where did you buy this kit? Let me know thanks
Svcm. Saleman doesnt have ti mention it as its factory for odysseys.
I've got one of the S-VCM ordered for my 2010 Pilot. I bought the car a few weeks back and noticed my exhaust tips get some black around them in the few weeks I've owned the car and started researching what would cause that. I didn't know anything about the cylinders cutting out for ECO mode but this VCM stuff seems like a bad idea if it makes an otherwise good engine burn oil. Anyway, I hope my S-VCM gets here soon!
Yupm eco mode does alot of damage overtime. Soecially shutting down 3 cylinders when on.
Where did you get it? Thanks!
@@67rcampbell i made my own and sold the one i have. 80 cent resistor inline.
@@FlipSideGarage Why did you take the s-vcm controller out and replace it with your own resistor? Were you having problems with it?
@@bryans8193 not really.I sold it for the samd price i bought it for. Replaced it with an 80 cent resistor,then when I did my timing belt. I ended up swapping thermostat to a lower temp rating. Literally dods the same thing as the svcm controller.
Great video. From reading the comments it looks like you took this off and just went with the 82ohm resistor method. I put the simple 82ohm resistor in from a kit on Amazon and it has worked great for a couple months but yesterday out of the blue on the highway the ECO light started coming on. The strange thing was ECO was coming on when I was accelerating not coasting like it used to normally work. I was thinking about putting one in like you have in the video because the simple 82ohm resistor method doesn't hook up to the battery like yours did. Do you have any suggestions?
Eco mode will always come back here and there.Resistors dont last forever unfortunately. Mine does here and there
@@FlipSideGarage I think it might have been a very hot day so I probably need to change the resistor for the summer. I decided to go for the S-VCM and just ordered one. It's worth it to not have to change resistors all the time I guess.
Hate to tell you but my transmission started to run hit or something. Affecting the torque converter. The dealer said we needed transmission. I unhooked the device and changed my fluid transmission works fine. I imagine the fan wasn't come on to keep trans cooler cool. Or engine
Mine works fine.Must be yours as I never heard of another with the same issue
You do realize that resistors can be bad feom the get go? Manufacturer may have accidentally put the wrong resistor?
Did you ever get a check engine light with this particular solution for VCM?
I did not. Its been a few years now.
The problem is the far back bank 3 cylinder are made into a compressor no spark or valve action but it forces compression with no where to go except pass the rings, causing the rings to fail and pass oil causing oil consumption and excessive blowby. Which unit did you use for your 2011? mine is a 2009?
Not sure on what youll need. I ended up soldering a 30 cent 82 ohm resistor inline of temp gauge wire.
What is the actual product? I don’t see it in the description. Thanks
Vcm muzzler
Just fyi. This mod I found that its only a resistor based mod. Meaning the resistor is less than a dollar inline to the signal wire.
Great instruction! One quick question, what is the name/term for the terminal in the fuse box that you connect to instead of the positive terminal of the battery? Thanks!
Just a standard power post
Did u have any vibration before the delete?
Yes I did due to the nature of the system making my motor mounts go bad. I do have a set of motor mounts to replace the old ones
Ebay. Under SVCM controller. No resistors needed. Do not get VCmuzzler.
Thanks very much appreciate your video showing the install, was looking into the muzzler at first but researching SVCM, it appears to be the superior solution.
@@cperez8891 yup. I did quite a bit of researching before buying it. I love the no adjustment needed type of parts. Its been 2 months and no issues.
@@FlipSideGarage Yeah totally agree no adjustments necessary, its the way to go. Just curious, have u noticed a marginal or significant decrease in MPG after the install over the 2 mths.
@@cperez8891 1-3mpg loss,but id prefer that over ECo mode.
What's wrong with the VCMuzzler?
Just put mine on, pretty easy as long as you keep the wires from touching anything hot. No eco mode and no code
What is the year model of your car sir?
Great Video, I'm stupid when it comes to cars and was able to do this. It turned off Eco mode...one strange thing that happened was after install I turned on car and it wanted a pin? it went away
Yup. Its from unplugging the piwer. For ur radio?
@@FlipSideGarage Thanks! I got one more question. I sometimes feel a bit little more rattling with the engine that goes away. Could this be due to the device not being secured properly - or is it from the 6 cylinders constantly going off?
@@joeseph2201 check your motor mounts as well
@@FlipSideGarage I just bought a 2012 Honda Accord V6 3.5 engine with a 121,000.00 miles on it. After doing some reading on the web, after I bought my car, I learned that the VCM causes a lot of problems!
A couple of days ago, I found out about this S-VCM controller, and bought one for safe measure, however with the high mileage on my car, would installing this device damage my engine even further?
Mine has 139k when I bought the van and installed one. No issues whatsoever. Van runs on all 6 cylinders.
Will this enable a P0128 overtime? Especially when it gets cold outside in the winter? I have a 2014 Honda Odyssey. I got it about 11 months ago and it had 106,000 miles on it. I now have 131,000 and every time I come to a stop sign and it down shifts pretty rough. Every time I let off the gas between 40-10 mph. I’m pretty sure this is the ego kicking on and off because when I first start the engine cold the first five minutes of driving around when it’s below middle and the echo is not turning on it drives really smooth and I am seriously considering installing one of these. Is there an adjustment that needs to be made between seasons? How does this thing work? Is it electromagnetic?
Have you checked your motor mounts. Normal Maintenance and motor mounts are key to a healthy motor.
My 2020 pilot I'm installing it tmw got it tonight in mail.i hate eco mode I put it on to try it and totally killed the feeling my car big difference driving it.totally bogs car down and shifts odd and drags ass.cant wait to install it
Yes. Honda needs to stop doing this vcm feature
I really it makes no difference in gas mileage what 2 gallons difference if driving at 55 mph lol who does that lol .if I saw a difference it killed my gas mileage lol and I was 1/2 lower on oil and almost 1 quart down
@@pilot2020 thats the first thing people always ask if how much mpg lost.lol
Well I did it finally 2 days ago after this comments.i disabled it with s vcm .car has been an absolute dream now.the shudder at 2k is gone.i actually have heat now when at idle.the car runs better then it did brand new.i did a 3x drain and fill also for the 6spd trannys getting smoked from vcm and over heating the fluid.the car drives differently smooth and has more power since deactivated vcm.wish I knew this 9 months ago when I bought it next test is oil I was down 1 quart by 40% also changed pcv valve too.i did fresh tranny fluid and oil change 2 days I'll do another drain and fill in 15k miles and my next oil change I check I'll check the oil at 40 % when I do oil change.i do it at 40% every time to keep it clean.i do all my own work big on preventive maintenance as all my hondas had 300k to 450k and my 91 accord is at 980k.but all accords from 86 to 91,99 ,2000 accords
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Thanks for the video! I'm getting reading to install the S-VCM in my 2012 Odyssey. @1:57 you mentioned that you preferred to run the S-VCM power wire to the fuse box rather than to the battery terminal. Why did you prefer to do that? Thx!
Cleaner look mainly. I try to not add small things at the terminal as the more it gets loosened and tightened. The terminal on the post becomes loose. Fuse box to me is cleaner and less chance of corrosion.
Cleaner look.
after installation, the transmission began to work without poking and kicking?
Had this for 2 years now on my 10th gen accord and motor is more smoother and les oil consumption. Before this the motor consume 1qt/1000miles now it's only 1/4 per 3000 miles. No more foul plugs.
Great to hear.
You still have your odyssey? Got a 5 year review with the s-VCM?
I have a 5 year review of an 80 cent resistor... still working great.
@@FlipSideGarage you should do a video of how u did that
@@CheckIToutRealFast its not a diy hence why didnt. Svcm is more for non electrical folks.
Hi ! , your video helped me which one to choose , svcm or muzzler , I’m receiving mine soon ! I was wondering how things going with the s-vcm so far, and thanks again and happy holidays !
good morning. my svcm has been working great. I drive the van everyday and have not had any issues. i love it. if you dont mind subscribing. id greatly appreciate it,
Sure ! And thanks for the reply
would you plz post info where did u purchase the unit, thinking of going the same way too
i bought
it from ebay
What’s unit called
Thank you for doing this for us! I have a question - did you feel like grinding noise (like bad bearing) when it engages to ECO mode? Thank you again!
That could be the motor mounts too
@@FlipSideGarage thank you for the note! Oh boy that'll be super expensive...I will start with S-VCM.
@@bjidotoo yup more than likely its motor mounts. Its a commom effect when ECO mode is active
@@FlipSideGarage Thank you again. I will try S-VCM then see what's next. Do you think if non- dealer mech can replace the motor mounts? Just found the delaer price to replace the mounts is somewhere from 1,200-1,500.
@@bjidotoo yup. They can. The reat one is a pain. The subfram have to come down a little .
Where can I purchase one
Our Odyssey gets such good gas mileage with ECO mode system I am curious how your mileage is since the installation of the VCM?
1-2mpg diff. Id sacrifice that over the bad effect from the VCM. Motor mounts,half of the cyl banks oerworked,oil consumption,etc. I absoultely hate the vcm.lol
I know this is an old post but how much was shipping and customs for a USA shipping? I have sent them 3 emails without a return.
If i recall it took a few weeks. They o have a slow response
Call Honda about this I have a 2012 with only 130k and they said to bring it into the dealer as this is covered by their extended warranty. Not sure what their fix is but am anxious to see. Have an appt booked for next week.
So anyone with this issue get this fixed on their fine, not yours.
What are you reffering too?
There is no fix for VCM. Its an integrated feature and it can only be tricked so it qont come on
If I had to guess, Honda was planning on doing a partial engine rebuild to repair potential damage to the piston rings in cylinders 1-4 caused by VCM
Thanks!
Thank you:)
I order mys can’t wait to add it I drive long distance and that vcm n eco worry’s me .. should be here 4-6 days ..
So this means you would use a bit more gas?
No
Does the s-vcm solve all the problems or do you have to use a k- tuner or something similar as well?
Thanks for the video.
No issues whatsoever til today.
No ktuner
Sorry I keep commenting but bro for that battery bolt can I use a Philip's head screw driver to remove it instead of a 10mm cuz the top is a Phillips head ?
Its safer to use a 10mm. Ive had oem philips screws strip before
@@FlipSideGarage ok thanks man !
Hello! Do you still have your odyssey, if so, how is it running with the VCM muzzler 5 years later?
I dont have the svcm for 4 years now. Im using an 80 cent resistor 82 ohm in line
Why did you get rid of this?
@@davidcozzi6220 never said i got rid of muzzling.
What’s the 80 cent resistor for? Doesn’t the s-VCM work by itself?
@@CheckIToutRealFast svcm is nothing buy a resistor. All you are paying for is the plugs.
Does the S-VCM effect when the electric radiator fans kick on, meaning does it allow the engine to operate at a higher coolant temperature? Thanks in advance. 😃
The fan and vcm are inna completely different circuit. I mean inwouldnt operate the vehicle if your temp gauge is reading over half.lol
@@FlipSideGarage Thanks. Good to know. It's my understanding that you have had S-VCM on your Honda for well over a year without issue. This is reassuring. 😃
@@jamescourier1545 well i did for close to a year or so. Ended up taking it off,selling it and phtting an 80 cent resistor in between. Afterall... 99 bucks compared to 80 cents.lol
@@FlipSideGarage I just need to note the "new normal" on the temperature gauge & all will be well!
@@jamescourier1545 new normal?
Hi can. You please let me know an update.. how is everything in the van right now?
Good Morning. So far everything works normal. I fully did the required maintenance since then.
I notice in Odyssey 06 whenever the check engine light is on the eco mode won't appear, what could be responsible for this?
The vcm is is only activated when the temp is at the oem readings. There are many things linked when the VSS activates. Whsts the CEL code showing?
@@FlipSideGarage the problem is that whenever I disconnect and reconnect the battery the check engine light goes away and the Eco mode appears when I am driving. What could be the cause?
Yes bec its resetting. You have to find oug what the code is for the CEL first before going any further.
Eco mode activates with so many diff variables. Speed,Temperature, etc is all associated with the ECO mode.
Do you still have this car and how is your vcm controller doing?
I dont have the svcm anymore. I sold it and out an 84ohm resistor. Drive the van everyday
I got the VCM tuner that I manually turn the resistance 0 to 100. Been trying 40 to 55 on it and although the ECO light comes off I still get the shaking while accelerating after a cruising speed on the Highway. I don't get the shaking at low speeds though.
I don't understand why it still shakes even if ECO isn't being turned on. Or is it being activated but not showing the ECO light?
Anyways it doesn't seem to be working that well, so I'll switch to S-VCM.
I bought a 2011 Honda Crosstour with 70K miles two weeks ago. Low enough mileage that the engine is still working fine. Previous owner never used a VCM tuner. Didn't know about this problem when I bought the car, but after some research I was glad to know there is a solution. I just bought the wrong product.
Did you install s-vcm?
Forgot about this comment. Update! I did get s-vcm and still got the shakes, but Eco light stayed off for good. Turns out it was the CV Axel half shaft going bad. Replaced both of them and now car is running smooth
Hi thanks for the share. Though am concerned why the temperature is off and why is that and should I be worried?
Its only 5 percent off. It has to be to not allow the VCM to engage.
My s-vcm controller was defective. When I tried to start my 2012 Pilot after installing, the engine didn’t want to turn over. It finally did after 3 tries but idled at a very low 500 rpm. The idle lined out close to normal after about a minute. I carefully drove to work and all went well with VCM not engaging. I noticed the coolant gauge temperature never moved off cold which I know is a problem.
Starting the engine after work was once again a struggle but not as bad as earlier that day probably due to a higher ambient temperature. It drove home fine after getting going with the coolant reading again staying on cold.
I tested when I got home by disconnecting the power from the controller and the coolant reading was normal in between cold and hot. All that being said, the s-vcm support was extremely responsive and apologetic. They confirmed it was installed correctly after reviewing my photos. A replacement controller was mailed out immediately. Hopefully it will work as designed this time around! I’m pumped because I did get to experience VCM not engaging after getting past the startup issues and it was as everyone has been describing.
If the ECM does not receive a Normal Operating Temp notification the ECO will not be enabled. The ECM also requires a Normal Operating Temp notification to enable the EGR Valve to operate. Does this SVCM manage this issue?
1 5% variable just enough to not enable vcm is more than fine. I still have the van and have 0 issues.
Hello there can you please tell me where could I purchase the VCM
I bought this and I’m about to install it on a 2013 Acura RDX. Hooking the controller directly to the battery worries me a bit. I’ve read that some guys have gotten fuses instead. Did you disconnect one of the battery terminals before disconnecting the wiring harness connected to the ECT?
No need to disconnect. Youre not power anything by hooking up the power wire from the controller.
Will this work on a 2007 Odyssey Touring?
I believe so. Id triple check on the fitment guide just to be sure.
Can you share the link for the immobilizer you installed ? Yours seem far more effective that the one I have on a 2006 Honda Odyssey EX-L
I sold the kit and used an 82ohm resistor for 60cents
@@FlipSideGarage where did you get the s-vsm . I really need one . I'm in Portland Oregon
Would this pass smog with the item installed?
It should. Easily deactivate the
controller if it doesnt pass,but I dont see why it wouldnt.
I was told to install this to reduce the issue I have with my 2012 Honda Accord V6 3.5l engine from consuming oil. Will this actually help?
Yes
What’s the website that you bought this at in need of one asap
Hi again , sorry to bother you , just wondering so, after connecting the svcm I put the oem plugs aside ? To then connect the svcm
The svcm goes in between the plug and the sensor
hello good video can I ask you where you got it is that I ordered one and it doesn't work for me keep on the eco mode please help
What do you mean it doesnt work? Did you follow step by step?
Is there any downside to connect the black wire to that box instead of the battery? And did you have to do anything special to the box to connect that wire to it?
No difference in overall purpose other than aesthetics. I like to make it look as close to oem as I can. No other modification. That wire is just for power
I am getting the svcm for my 2012 Honda Pilot just bought the Pilot like 3 months ago I didn’t know about this. I don’t fill any problem driving the car but I am putting it on my car. I wonder if the dealer or someone else did the pistons rings already it has 125000 miles on it?
Do you have a link for the one you bought I have a 2005 oddy
I sold the kit and used an 82ohm resistor for 60cents
Just bought a 2018 Odyssey Touring with 55,000 miles. Should I get one for this year model too?
I would do it in a heartbeat if it was me.
@@FlipSideGarage Sounds good. S-VCM still your preferred method?
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 its honestly just an 90 cent resistor. Lol
@@FlipSideGarage So, is there a DIY method?
@@watchandjewelryloft4713 i wouldnt really say its a diy as it will be soldered in line of the temp signal wire..basically same as what this svcm will do without the plug and play feature.
Notice any difference in fuel economy with this over time?
Fuel economy isnt the concern for this modification. Id rather have all my cylinders working at all times. I did lose 1-2 mpg which is not a big deal to me. I did end up selling the svcm and placed a 90 cent resistor which is what all this is.
@@FlipSideGarage yes I realize that isn't the point of this mod.
Was simply asking what your observations were regarding fuel economy. Thanks!
@@TehDrewsus maintenance is what helps the gas mileage. Im at 20 city and about 25 highway. This mod helps pull all the weight of a heavy van. I wouldnt worry to much on gas as this mod would help sace ur piston rings,02 Sensors,cat,spark plugs, and motor mounts.
@@FlipSideGarage yes, again I just wanted to know if and how much fuel economy was effected. I'm aware of what vcm can do to an engine, and was just curious if there was a big impact to gas mileage
@@TehDrewsus Again. Fuel mileage #s are vague as it varies every van. I stated what fuel mileage i get. The fact that i maintain my van and keep it running at top notch is why I get great mileage even with vcm mod.You do know that fuel mileage is affected by number of things and the vcm mod isnt really one of them?
Where did you get that same product from? I can't find it on Google
SVCM from Canada
In my case which ohms should i use i live in new york
Im using 82. May vary with yours since NY gets silly cold.
So yiu just don't like it? I do when I'm getting 30mpg on the hwy.. Does cutting it make the engine last much longer?
Yes. Lasts longer and I preffer all to be moving at all times
Premature engine failure, oil burn, motor mount replacement, and loafing extra engine drag, etc far outweigh a couple measly MPGs gained.
There are lawsuits over Honda screwing their customers. I'd say it's a big deal. Did you end up buying one of these?
Van still running good ?
Yup no issues at all
Where can i get the vcm disabler sent me the link please?
Svcm.com
What were the differences in mpg?
What was the difference in power?
What happens when you turn on eco mode?
After install that is
1-2
Power is all cylinder working at all times.
Eco mode in town fouls injectors,damages piston rings,damages motor mounts etc
@@FlipSideGarage I guess I have not noticed if the vcm system is engaged in my ‘22 Honda… it has an eco button. But I don’t press it. It doesn’t have an ego light.. but does have a led bar that coordinates with in color with the instant mpg gauge..
How do I know if my car is shutting off cylinders?
@@richeyrich2203 youd feel it if it engsges. You wont need this if yours hasa button. You can choose to have it on or off.
@@FlipSideGarage I may be mistaken but activating the ECO on the newer models is only adjusting the transmission to shift more conservatively and does not impact VCM. Honda does not offer an option to deactivate VCM even on the newer models. I will say that VCM on the newer models is much more seamless and nearly impossible to notice the changes. I have a 2012 Pilot and my wife a 2018 Pilot.
@@ousoonerbg Things always sound better when its "new". Im sure the 4th gens sounded good to have ECO mode when it was new. It has been proven many times on the cons of the ECO mode overtime.
I got a question the wire you connected to the positive how will I know which screw in the fuse box is positive are both of them positive beacuse it has red paint on top ?
I always say to triple check qoth a voltmeter just to be sure. The kit can be easily.fried of hooked up tomthe wrong polarity
@@FlipSideGarage see thats what I'm worried about and the other terminal thats on the battery I already have another wire connected there for my led light bar I have .I'm trying to do this the right way instead of messing up
You should be fine tapping at the same location. It just needs power
@@FlipSideGarage oh ok thank you so much !
Is it to late to attach this to a 2012 pilot with 75000. Has the damage been done already?
Id put one asap
Has your city gas mileage and acceleration improved?
22.6mpg yes and yes
Hi 👋. I drive a 2012 Odyssey. My check engine light has been coming on the last year so I bought an OBD reader and it showed I needed spark plugs in bank 2 so I replaced all my spark plugs including the coil packs. Here I am 8 months later and I'm getting another check engine light for Bank One. Today driving on the freeway I've noticed for the fourth time puffs of smoke occasionally coming out of my tailpipe. Sometimes when I drive and I'm going from 20 to 40 mph the car will get a little sluggish but once I get to 40 it does okay. Am I needing one of those gadgets that you are using in this video? Please be patient with me as I have not had too much mechanical expertise and it's not because I am a woman but because, well I just don't work on cars that much:-)
I would get a compression test if you are fouling spark pluga that fast
If you already have ring failure and or other severe failure. This piece wont really fix that. Id recommend to to cet a compression check
@@FlipSideGarage I started getting puffs of smoke when driving 40-45 Mph on cruise. The oil got quite dirty in 1,5K miles winter driving (2 months), so I installed the VCM delete and changed the oil. So far it is doing quite well. Would you recommend to test the compression?
@@Sergei__v yes
I have a 2010 crosstour with 130,000 miles and I am fouling #3
plug every month and using a quart of oil in the same time. My question is am I too late for this device to help ?
Yup fouling can be caused by the oil ring issue that the V6 odyssey motors suffer from the VCM
Specially of your consuming and burning oil.
You may have damage piston rings that letting it sip in the combustion chamber when VCM is engaged.
8 months ago I changed the timing belt , water pump and tension. When I removed the intake there was alot of oil in the intake runner and I was told that it was blow by because of a stuck EGR valve ? Hopefully that's where the oil is coming from ?
When I get this installed I will update.
You can also add a catch can setup to catch the oil blowby. Id start with that and see. Did you replace ur PCV valve as well?
Just ordered mine for 2015 pilot
Nice
Where can I order one for my 2011 Honda Odyssey
Svcm
@@FlipSideGarage awesome thank you. I really noticed started noticing it lately van almost has 200,000 miles on it and when ECO engages on and off it’s pretty hard.
Is VCM TUNER II advanced similar to your unit?
Nothing beats the SVCM ones. Advanced auto adjusting to diff climates unlike others
Can you post the link to it? I'm having the same issue
Ended up selling it and buying an 80 cent resistor..did the same thing for 80 cents.lol
Where do I order this from??
So basically if your vehicle really starts to overheat you won't know cause the gauge is stuck at 165 degrees?
Its not stuck. Its only reading a resistance before the threshold. Resistor will not stop the reading of an overheating situation.
Plus it has dual temp sensor.
@@FlipSideGarage so if the real temp is at 210+ the gauge will show that?
@@FlipSideGarage o ok. I think i get it. So it lowers the temp to about 30 degrees so the if ever it ever gets to a normal reading that would indicate a high temp?
@@pablomarquez4431 its only reading about 10% less just enough to not trigger eco mode. In the event its overheating. The piece will not prevent the gauge from letting driver know its overheating. It has 2 temp sensors from factory.
Hi sir where can i purchase it please
I took mine off and installed a 80 cent resistor.
I just pulled the connector off the engine coolant temp sensor and then attempt to start the vehicle it won't start with the connector disconnect and sets a code and turns the ck engine light on so just reconnect the wire to the sensor and it will turn the ck engine light on but it also deactivates the VCM
Yes cant be stsrting the van with sensors disconnected
How can I buy this device??? I want it!
I no longer have it. I replaced it with a lower rated thermostat
IT'S ANNOYING TO SEE THAT ECO MODE AND FEEL THAT THE ENGINE JUMPS, BUT WHEN THE COOLANT SENSOR TEMPERATURE DROPS I DON'T CAPTURE THE HIGH GAS CONSUMPTION.
Id worry more on what parts are suffering over 1-2mpg loss. Before you know it. Your piston rings will suffer.lol
Do you have a link for the one you purchased?
I actually returned it. Saved me 99 bucks. All it was is a .70 cent resistor inline.
@@FlipSideGarage wait, so you diy yours and returned the s-vcm? With fixed resistor value, will it be troublesome to change diff resistor value out when climate is changed?
@@CCG0D havent had issues.
@@FlipSideGarage cool. What value did you use? 82ohm 1/4W resistor? Maybe I will just go the same route with your value. 👍
@@CCG0D its been a while and couldnt remeber the exact value. I did measure the ohm reading when it was operating temp then subracted 5-10% value
Where do you order this?
Svcm.com
Link to purchase?
For the resistor?
@@babyjeff10 theres actually alot of diff kinds. I went to radioshack and sold mine and installed a .80 cent resistor.lol
@@FlipSideGarage Thats another option I'm considering. My engine is still in good shape with no burning oil and spark plugs look good so I might try the resistor first. Also, RadioShacks still exist? Lol haven't seen one of those since I was in school
He swears by it then says he don’t have it no more 🤣🤣
No ish sherlock.I didnt have one at the time when I made the video and found out all it was is a 80 cent resistor. Smh
You need to learn how to read the before and after reasoning before speaking.lmao
I’m confused, what’s an 80 cent resistor?
What about the cooling fans?
What about them?
@@get_a_job633 correct
@Rumpleforeskin Thanks. However, I had a straight resistor (simpler setup than the S-VCM) plugged in the same location as where the S-VCM goes. The fans would not come on unless I turned the AC on. I removed the resistor and the fans worked normally again. I figured this out doing some maintenance that required two cycles of the cooling fans.
Where can I get one
I sold the kit and used an 82ohm resistor for 60cents
How do you know if the engine is overheating do to a coolant leak or bad cooling fans.
It has a fail safe that it allows it to show overheating if it occurs.
flipside garage - thank you for the response. Since I have had the spark plug fouling problem twice already, are my piston rings already damaged?
I would first checm the oil consumption. They are notorious for lots of newer acuras and hondas. My coworkers tsx suffered frim piston ring failure.
Basicsly when you change your oil. Check the amount after about 50-100miles afterwards
Are you running premium gas?
@@FlipSideGarage no, never used premium gas. The engine may use some oil but I have never had to add oil between oil changes. The first misfire occurred at 53000 miles 4 years ago. It happened again recently at 65000 miles. The car is now used for short trips only, never on the highway for trips like before it happened the first time.
@@danjoe22 I would recommend replacing the pcv valve and if you have an egr valve. Id clean that too.
@@FlipSideGarage Thanks, I will look into that. You have given me great advice. I am definitely going to pursue disabling the vcm and following up on your suggestions.
Pls explain why exactly you want vcm disabled. What's the disadvantage of vcm?
Saves your motor and motor mounts. Its the quickest explanation really.
Causes piston ring failure,misfire ,spark plugs fouling and motor mount failure
i notices the temperature is lower after putting it
Its normal.
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