Does this do anything to all the other steerpoints, like adjust the coordinates in any way? Or, does hitting M-Sel just add, for example, STPT 26 and make that active? thx.
In Mark page if you push TMS up it will just add new steering point starting from 26. If u want that new steering point become active push the M-SEL button @@keithbriscoe99
Good god, watching videos like this makes me glad to be a hornet driver first. Seriously, the switchology on the viper is so unnecessarily complicated. You can tell they just added on JHMCS to a system architecture that couldn't really handle it or was designed for it.
I’ve had the opposite experience. Hornet feels less intuitive to me. This might be because I learned the Viper first, while you learned the Hornet first. (Also, note that many of the things he does in this video are mere personal preference. There are several different switchology paths to the same outcome.)
@@Icytits I find the A-10 makes way more sense. It’s all modular, I can designate a SPI from whatever sensor I want, and then slave a particular sensor to it. Yet the Viper makes you put the JDAM in visual mode in order to use the JHMCS? And then you can slave the TGP to it and you have to drop a markpoint.
@@Icytits I do fly the A10 though its not my favourite bird. IMO the A10/F16 are similar in the switchology logic but as Henrik pointed out the A10 makes more sense as its more modular. I really find the F18 to have the best logic for ground attack (followed by the A10). A/A the viper is nice though.
It can be done with any weapon in CCRP mode, even unguided rockets, release point will be auto-adjusted while you move your nose up. Would work for carpet bombing with streamlined munitions, but will be extremely inaccurate.
@gaffer what did you mean at @3:06 "put that SAM on my five-nine line"? I understand the three-nine (o'clock) 90 degree perpendicular "notch" technique for avoiding doppler radars, but what is the "five" about?
Been playing recently and noticed this as well. Yes, I have the TGP installed. Still only no option for it as the source. Idk if this is a bug or intended.
if there is no sa-10 or sa-11 or sa-5 you can just go 25k+ altt anf the sa-15 cant track at that altt !! so there is no need for lofting !! i do lofting in the f16 and f18 and f15E when there is an sa-10 or sa-11 or sa-5 the sa-6 you need to go 30k+ altt but still great tech what you just did
The Mark Point function creates steer points starting at number 26. I created a mark point and 26 is the steerpoint associated with it. If I created a 2nd mark point it would be at 27. M-SEL is just a shortcut to make the mark point you just created an active steerpoint
@@FLYGaffer got it! I thought I recalled that. It’s been a while since I’ve flown the viper tactically so I’d forgotten that element of mkpt use. Thanks for the refresher. Good video
Hi there and thank you for your videos are you able to help me to fly the f16c?
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I am new to the F16 but I get trouble getting the JHMCS to designate a MP. So it is only possible when the JDAM is in VIS mode?? I am using usually mavericks and sometimes it is easier to spot the target outside the cabin than slewing the tpod.
It is perhaps not that well known but as of currently dcs sam AI cant ”see” jdams on their radar becuase the jdams have a weird weapon api code description or something thus making jdam against sam arcade cheating. Just putting it out there for those that didnt already know this. It is one of the worst weapon bugs as it takes away the awsome multi launch ability of jdams which was one of their design requirement to be able to oversaturate some sam systems. I just reqlly hope ED fixes this before GBU 39 is eventually released for the strike eagle.
You can press M-SEL and the markpoint will become active steering point
What button is M-SEL? Thnx for tip
O key on ICP
Literally the best viper tip of all time
Does this do anything to all the other steerpoints, like adjust the coordinates in any way? Or, does hitting M-Sel just add, for example, STPT 26 and make that active? thx.
In Mark page if you push TMS up it will just add new steering point starting from 26. If u want that new steering point become active push the M-SEL button @@keithbriscoe99
Gaffer, keep up the good content buddy - loving these straightforward, concisely explained examples of various weapon deployment techniques in the 16!
Thank you!
I think you can just hit M Sel and make your mark point your active steer point. Instead of returning then putting the steer point in manually.
Thanks, someone pointed that out to me earlier. It works! Anything to save button presses
@Gaffer, great tutorial. Short and concentrated. Awesome, thanks! 💥
Clean tutorial! Love to see this updated when the DTOS is fully implimented.
Thanks!
I always forget to hit RTN on the dobber and it messes everything up lol
Awesome videos as always, thanks for the lessons!
Loving this viper content!
Good god, watching videos like this makes me glad to be a hornet driver first. Seriously, the switchology on the viper is so unnecessarily complicated. You can tell they just added on JHMCS to a system architecture that couldn't really handle it or was designed for it.
I’ve had the opposite experience. Hornet feels less intuitive to me. This might be because I learned the Viper first, while you learned the Hornet first. (Also, note that many of the things he does in this video are mere personal preference. There are several different switchology paths to the same outcome.)
@@rolinthor in the hornet the first half of this video is basically “SSS up, TDC depress, refine with pod, done”. Markpoints optional.
Comments like this open my eyes to the fact that nobody flies the a10c anymore. This is honestly pretty damn intuitive.
@@Icytits I find the A-10 makes way more sense. It’s all modular, I can designate a SPI from whatever sensor I want, and then slave a particular sensor to it. Yet the Viper makes you put the JDAM in visual mode in order to use the JHMCS? And then you can slave the TGP to it and you have to drop a markpoint.
@@Icytits I do fly the A10 though its not my favourite bird. IMO the A10/F16 are similar in the switchology logic but as Henrik pointed out the A10 makes more sense as its more modular. I really find the F18 to have the best logic for ground attack (followed by the A10). A/A the viper is nice though.
Can LOFT attack be done with unguided weapons ? i believe there's a paramater called " REL ANG"
does it work or no ?
It can be done with any weapon in CCRP mode, even unguided rockets, release point will be auto-adjusted while you move your nose up. Would work for carpet bombing with streamlined munitions, but will be extremely inaccurate.
@gaffer what did you mean at @3:06 "put that SAM on my five-nine line"? I understand the three-nine (o'clock) 90 degree perpendicular "notch" technique for avoiding doppler radars, but what is the "five" about?
Meant to say 3-9
Wait, did you just set that as a stpt by selecting the desired stpt and hitting enter?
I follow all the steps but I don't know why when I cycle to choose TGP it's not there. Goes into Hud, ofly.... I have my TGP on since the start
That's... impressive!
great content dude thanks for the help
my options are only, hud and rdr on the DED . I dont have TGP on the DED , even with the TGP installed and looking at current steer point
Been playing recently and noticed this as well. Yes, I have the TGP installed. Still only no option for it as the source. Idk if this is a bug or intended.
if there is no sa-10 or sa-11 or sa-5 you can just go 25k+ altt anf the sa-15 cant track at that altt !! so there is no need for lofting !!
i do lofting in the f16 and f18 and f15E when there is an sa-10 or sa-11 or sa-5
the sa-6 you need to go 30k+ altt
but still great tech what you just did
Regardless of what most are saying about the use of M-SEL.
Can you explain why stpt 26 was your choice in number? I don’t quite understand
The Mark Point function creates steer points starting at number 26. I created a mark point and 26 is the steerpoint associated with it. If I created a 2nd mark point it would be at 27.
M-SEL is just a shortcut to make the mark point you just created an active steerpoint
@@FLYGaffer got it! I thought I recalled that. It’s been a while since I’ve flown the viper tactically so I’d forgotten that element of mkpt use. Thanks for the refresher.
Good video
Hi there and thank you for your videos are you able to help me to fly the f16c?
I am new to the F16 but I get trouble getting the JHMCS to designate a MP. So it is only possible when the JDAM is in VIS mode?? I am using usually mavericks and sometimes it is easier to spot the target outside the cabin than slewing the tpod.
You can go to MARK - HUD mode - TMS up long which brings a circle on the JHMCS - TMS up short - M-SEL
How do I get into Mark HUD mode? When I press 7 on the ICP, it takes me to the 7 CMDS (Commands) menu option
@@itistheway6893 you press return on the Dobber first to get out of list mode
@@chadvader974 got it. I was still a noob when I posted that question. I’m still a noob, but I can at least hit targets now.
Great video
It is perhaps not that well known but as of currently dcs sam AI cant ”see” jdams on their radar becuase the jdams have a weird weapon api code description or something thus making jdam against sam arcade cheating. Just putting it out there for those that didnt already know this. It is one of the worst weapon bugs as it takes away the awsome multi launch ability of jdams which was one of their design requirement to be able to oversaturate some sam systems. I just reqlly hope ED fixes this before GBU 39 is eventually released for the strike eagle.
Everything under AG Missiles they target (including APKWS), JDAMs are under bombs so they don’t.
The 39 already exists on two DCS platforms…
@@TreetopFlyer1116 Don't think so, unless you're talking about mods.
If not, I don't think they exist. JSOWs do, though.
@@ryz_vik they absolutely exist on the A-10C II and the AV-8B N/A
sadly the current version of the sa-15 will destroy JDAMs , it made everything much harder.