I Expected Better & I Don't Like Dijonay or Maya | The Proud Family Louder and Prouder Reaction
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- The new Proud Family Reboot Louder and Prouder was underwhelming for me. I especially had critiques about the characters Dijonay and Maya. However, there were some things I liked about the series, but I'll have to keep watching the rest of the season to see if my initial feelings change or not...
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I lost all hope when they tried to make me believe that Dijonay was someone I should care about again. For god's sake, she's always the first to stab Penny in the back. Either turn her into an antagonist or get rid of her.
Exactly 💯
That would be an important lesson. Sometimes you just gotta walk away from people so they can’t hurt you anymore. It would be a really good lesson for Penny
I want so bad that Penny just shout at her and leaves her.
And she also seems to always escape getting ANY comeuppance.
She’s like Cartman from Southpark if the other kids didn’t even TRY to knock him down a peg.
Me too
I feel like they were reworking characters and got it wrong. They wanted to give Maya a personality and she just became an activist (but in a over the top unnecessary way) they could have introduced her as Penny’s new best friend and had DiJoney move away. Her character would be much more likable if she was quietly and privately encouraging Penny to be a better person without their other friends around. It would be more realistic.
I agree. I definitely feel like they forced it with Maya's activist personality. It seems like in this show most of Penny's "friends" are against her or low-key dislike her (Dijonay, Lacienega, and now Maya), but Zoey and Michael are neutral and usually aren't against Penny. Penny's friend group just isn't the best unfortunately.
Let's not forget that Maya tried to forced her beliefs on people. I don't like it when she does that.
Yeah its so annoying
Michael is definitely gay, the producer (or the creator?) confirmed in an interview that he was always intended to be gay but because it was the early 2000s, there was no way Disney would've let them get away with being open about it.
"Sissy" was basically a stand-in for "f*ggot" which is what he realistically would've been called during that time.
Thanks for clarifying! I never realized sissy was a stand in for that word, but that makes a lot of sense. I'm happy that now they can be more open about Michael's character and the show can portray him in a way they wouldn't have been able to in the early 2000s
well somehow now proud family takes place in the modern day time and PENNY IS STILL 14
@Sinneti 16 actually
In a weird way Maya fits in with the group, she’s also very two faced. Its very disappointing cause with Sticky’s departure, Penny’s only decent friend aside from Zoey, Maya could’ve been their new Sticky
Their new Sticky is her brother.
@@ajstudios9210 The new siblings is like Sticky is divided to two people, but I rather have Maya be the new Sticky than the brother since he’s almost barely in the group
Zoey is a decent friend but she will always follow the majority and she is tries to keep the peace but usually never calls anyone out on their bs.
@@eccentricdownfall321 except when the friend attacked Zoey for catching the interest of that one kid.
That episode is still messed up.
Zoey wasn't a good friend either...
Maya assumed things about Penny before getting to know her.
Exactly. She didn't even give Penny a chance. Maya decided she disliked Penny before getting to know her.
Maya is an example of how these pro-Black figures tend to signify and berate other blacks essentially being glorified hypocrites.
@@NaesthetycsStory of my life
Maya's character can be summed up as someone who likes starting drama. She likes "stirring the pot" so to speak.
she likes to stir the pot and then when it boils over she walks away
@@charliepuppy.That's a good way of putting it. Almost every friend group has one of those.
I was hoping they'd give Penny some new friends because she deserves better ones. I always hated all her friends, even when I was little. They suck.
Yeah Penny needs some new friends for real, but the show would be a lot of different if they got her all new friends. It would be like a whole new show, so I doubt they'll ever change her friends
see the only ones I like from the friend group is micheal but he can also be shitty sometimes to also I kind of like Zoey but she's basically like the others but the last one to leave penny ideas/suggestions what I don't like about her though is that she only likes what the others say like in the one ep where they revealed that Maya has 2 dad's when penny suggests to sit by them she without saying a FUCKING excuse she literally just leaves live Damm u really be having a such a controlled mindset from lacienaga and dijoney its disappointing that micheal is the only one who listened to penny like that's why I like the most , but in the same FUCKING ep they had to ruin him
when Maya and her brother were in trouble from the gross sisters he did FUCKING NOTHING and the only thing he said as a excuse is that he's bad at fighting but I at least respect him for having a excuse unlike the others I get their scared of the gross sisters but that much zaaaaaaaaang
The show could’ve demonstrated an incredibly profound & desperately needed lesson on how you should leave toxic friendships in terms of Dijonay, LaCienega & Maya (even though she’s a new character) but no, due to nostalgia, we have to stick with the same group who were the main problem with the OG series 🤦♀️
I think the creators decided down the road that Maya was not going to work as a SJW and her actions proved it, she even aligned with La Cienega, the last person you should be friends with
You make a good point. That honestly confused me when I saw Maya align with LaCienega because you would think based on Maya's personality, she wouldn't align with someone like LaCienega. So possibly the creators aren't going to make her out to be a total social justice warrior, but just have some parts of her personality give off that SJW vibe.
Was LaCienega a racist in the original or did they just do that for... fun???
@@Isellsimpsandsimpaccessories No, but in the 1950's episode where Penny is back when schools were segregated, she was racist but that turned out to be a dream from Penny.
@@josterio2.071 Yeah now she's like a racist latina stereotype and that feels like such the wrong route to take.
@@Isellsimpsandsimpaccessories Actually La Cienega is no different from what my cousins act, stereotypes come from somewhere
Maya sided with Lacienaga to take down Penny and steal her boyfriend.
I honestly didn't understand that. Maya seems like she's supposed to be this "pro black activist" so why would she plot against another Black character? That doesn't make sense to me.
@@Naesthetycs You should watch episode 3 of the Proud Family Louder and Prouder and find out.
@@Naesthetycs Did you watch episode 3?
Yes, I did
@@tomandjerry2568 shut up
I don't understand why they call this a sequel series. If it was being honest, they would have called it a reboot. I wish they had aged up penny and her friends since and the movie they were 16. I think they called sequel series to draw fans of the original series in. I wish they would give Dijonay more depth.
I wish they would have aged Penny and her friends up too. It would've been cool to see them in high school or even college. That's cool we got to see one episode of them in college though. Hopefully one day we'll get more depth from Dijonay's character.
The bizarre thing is that Penny’s baby twin siblings are now toddlers & look visibly older yet they’ve aged Penny & the others back down to 14 even though they were all 16 by the end of the original show.
The characters being the same age just made me shake my head. Why? This means that the movie from 2005 wasn't canon!
The thing that annoyed me about the reboot is the Penny and Oscar are constantly yelling. I mean Oscar yell in the original but he had his normal speaking voice. But Penny and Oscar this could be a nitpick but I notice that Penny and Oscar whenever they talk or speak the pitch of their voices sound over exaggerated.
That is true! It seems like Penny and Oscar butt heads more and Oscar and Suga Mama always in conflict with each other too. I guess when they said "Louder and Prouder" they really meant it lol
I think it’s crazy the dark skinned girls get the heaviest stereotype and aren’t offered any dimension in charecter but Penny can change and grow, I’m gonna start protesting this kind of mess because they never want the black woman to have any depth beyond the surface every situation is similar when they make black characters especially dark skinned ones. They added whole new characters and didn’t even grow and advance the ones they had.
Exactly ‼️ all the characters should be able to evolve and grow, not just Penny. I understand the show is centered around Penny but that doesn't mean other characters can't evolve too
My problem with Maya is that she's one of those activists so extreme that you can't stand it one bit. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be a Protestant girl in their community. but that her personality and character falls 254/7 in her entire appearance becomes exhausting.
another thing that undoubtedly makes me dislike Maya It is that she has very edgy attitudes and even borders on double standards and misogyny, like not supporting her friend in basketball just because "women don't get paid the same" (which is true, but it wasn't hard for her to support her partner), that she always has a cold attitude while reading books as if she hadn't nothing mattered to her (typical mentality of "i'm not like the other girls, I read books😍😍"
and the cherry on the cake. It is very hypocritical of Maya that she claims to be loud and a defender of women's rights but that she hangs out with girls like Dijonay and La Cienega (who have a history of mistreating Penny and Zoe).
And another thing about Maya there are so many black women resting in their masculine energy who want to be on the front lines when it should be men in the front lines. When the georgefloyd protests and was happening all I saw were women and children in the front in the black community make it make sense.
PREACH!! 👏🏽 I as a Black woman do not want to be on the front lines. I will be at home. It's unfortunate in the Black community it's that way where the Black women and children are on the front lines and some actually want to be. It plays into that strong, superhero, Black woman narrative. We are not y'all superheroes 😭
Wtf. Maya isn't even masculine and there's nothing wrong with willing to be at the front lines. It shows that she's not all talk.
Honestly, I saw the show and I'll be honest I miss the old Proud Family. There was no character growth between Penny's friends but Maya is the biggest disappointment. She's just a mean spiteful SJW who see the wrong on everyone except in herself. And worse she teams up with Lacienica who caused trouble for Maya in the first place while Penny went out of her way to be her friend. Not a good look
I was so excited for Maya's character too and was disappointed. I found it odd that the show had her team up with Lacienega
@@Naesthetycs agreed. Also thanks for not ripping me a new one just because of my opinion. A few months ago I my throat ripped out because I criticized Maya and was told BECAUSE IM WHITE. I HAVE NO RIGHT TO WATCH OR COMMENT ON A SHOW MENT FOR BLACK PEOPLE.
I'm a big boy, I can take it. It didn't bother me at all. But this is America, I can like and dis like what I want. If you ask me, cultural appropriation is another form of segregation
@GreyGremlin Of course. All opinions are accepted here as long as you are respectful. Your opinion was respectful and a good criticism of the show. Thank you for sharing it. It doesn't matter what race you are, you're allowed to watch and comment on this show. I understand where you're coming from about cultural appropriation being another form of segregation. Your opinion reminds me of this article: www.linkedin.com/pulse/cultural-appropriation-hidden-tool-segregation-ryan-neuhaus/
Really wish penny would ditch them
Honestly!
I don’t think the nerdy white girl done anything wrong
@@vudumi she a wimp who always goes with the others never doing the right thing abandoning penny
In my opinion, all the women in the show have their toxic traits. I don’t like how penny’s friends are fake. I don’t like how Suga Momma and Trudy treat Oscar. I definitely could live without the gross sisters. Even Penny has her toxic traits. She treats Myron like shit. Those scenes are few and far between, and I know Myron took advantage of those rumors about him and Penny. But that doesn’t permit her to steal his glasses. And Maya feels more like a satire if anything.
The stories have gotten more interesting but the characters have gotten worse.
Sounds like a certain show *cough* Family Guy *cough*
@@greninjaofthehiddenwatervi1026 At least family guy intends on everyone either being a dumb ass or an asshole. Or both.
Plus, the original wasn't even all that interesting. Even as a kid, I preferred Ed Edd n Eddy.
@@azazelgrigori9244 Yea but Old Family Guy felt different tho Quagmire was never an asshole, Brian was the voice of reason, Lois was actually caring to some degree list goes on
@@greninjaofthehiddenwatervi1026 When a show lasts as long as Family guy did, it can deviate from its original trajectory.
What they could've done to Dijonay is to have her be smaller like Penny and her friends and her hair darker but no.
And that goes for Maya too they made her character too masculine it's bad enough that black woman are seen to be as masculine
They love to see Darkskin female in a negative light
It's interesting that they made both the dark skin black girls masculine in this show, and it's disappointing. I think Dijonay deserves better. I never understood why her hair was blonde in the first place as a 14 year old Black girl. It just never made sense realistically because Black people are usually not born with blonde hair. Her hair being blonde indicates that she dyed her hair at a young age, so I agree that they should have made her hair darker. Possibly, her hair color may correlate with her name Dijonay, like Dijon Mustard which is a similar color to Dijonay's hair. Overall, they just did Dijonay all wrong.
@@Naesthetycs like they always do they can never get it right when it comes to Dijonay
@@Naesthetycs I think it's meant to further emphasize the joke of her being like an onion. She's the "stinky" one in the group, the one causing discomfort on the group with her presence. Much like an onion being peeled.
@@Naesthetycs I think it's a weave, I think Michael insulted her weave in the first ep
Even the Gross sister's with the Black & ashy , nonverbal animalistic growling makes me so mad. They can try to explain the blue hue away all they want, but i grew up during the era where they used to call dark skinned people "Blue black".
I don’t really like the reboot either. I was hoping this reboot would fix all the problems the og show had but it didn’t, and that just frustrated me. I do have opposite feelings towards Maya tho, as I did like her and she’s really the only reason why I kept watching this reboot in the first place. I honestly think it’s good that she was a girl this time cuz of how I felt like we already had enough strong “woke” black males in tv shows (Exs: Aaron Jackson, Huey Freeman), and had they switch Maya’s and KG’s personalities, I think he would’ve just been another rip off of Huey. So yea, Maya’s addition to the show is just refreshing to me.
I get why people don’t like her tho, as she does have plenty of flaws and is somewhat of a stereotype, to the point to where she’s one inch away from Umar Johnson like you said lol
Yeah, possibly the reboot will get better as we continue to watch, but we'll see lol. You make some good points about Maya, and I can see why having her character as a female rather than a male is good. I do like that they added Maya and it makes the reboot more refreshing having her instead of just all the same characters from the original series. I'm still warming up to her, but I'm looking forward to seeing more of her in the upcoming episodes.
Question what problems did the og series have ?
@@sschesirecat8794 I would say the only problem the og series had was with the way they portrayed Dijonay. I think her character could've been given more depth and uplifted more. And that problem still persists in the reboot so far in my opinion.
It does my body good to see people criticizing the characterization (or lack there of) of these characters
The creator is kinda colorist. I remember when this new series was first announced on twitter people were trying to reach out about doing better and he was very dismissive and immature in his responses. Bruce Smith is kinda rude.
Yeah I remember that. It's honestly a shame. I think the least they could do is take in the criticism and apply it to the new show. A lot of viewers are saying and pointing out the same thing about colorism and other problems especially surrounded around Dijonay in the show.
Me too I expected for them to do something better with the character, give them a passion they could have went the Parker’s rout with dijonay dabbling in fashion or singing or show dept to the character other than being a snitch & having a huge family , The colorism still stays in the show sadly
Honestly! The producers could have easily done what they did with Kim on the Parker's. Kim when she was on Moesha was seen in a similar light as Dijonay in the Proud Family which is not surprising since the same producer, Ralph Farquhar is on both shows. But on the Parkers we got to see more of Kim and her interests in singing and fashion. They easily could have done that for Dijonay too, but I just think they don't care
I'm not gonna lie Maya got on my nerve's, dang activist😂
Almost a year later and I don't think it holds up to the original . The original was like fried chicken this new one is like oven baked chicken with a little bit of pepper
Lol your analogy is so on point. I totally agree.
I think after the episode where Penny stood up for Maya and her 2 dads, Maya's character improved cause I didn't like her either at first. But screw Dijonay tho. I honestly hoped that this series would have became more serialized and had storylines and character development. Like made it a little mature in a way.
I wished for the same too. I guess technically since the character's didn't age, their appearance only changed, the storylines and character development aren't more than some of us would like. I do think Maya's character has improved towards Penny too. I hope that it continues that way and they can be actual friends instead of how LaCienega and Dijonay are towards Penny, Some episodes they act like friends towards Penny and others they don't.
I don’t like the reboot, I watch it based on the nostalgia from when I watched the original as a teen. But it feels like they’re doing too much. Some things that should’ve changed they made worse, like Dijonay. And it seems like the colorism is still there and that’s annoying.
2:34,
*me who started high school at age 13*
I'm pretty sure MOST 14 year olds are freshmen.
Exactly!
Well, 8th grade or 9th grade, I was 14 years old when I was in 9th grade. The American grade system is pretty weird.
I really wish a lot of the gags from the OG series had just died off like the abusive slapstick dynamic between Suga Mama and Oscar. 9:19 Kinda like a scapegoat when everything goes south?
I really wish Dijonay wasn't always portrayed as a boy-crazy gossip.
Spoiler:
Duke doesn't show up at all in the first season from what I've seen.
It really feels like Trudy might have been tricked into spending a thousand bucks on tracking down Suga Mama's family. Sugar Mama's family was retconned and the site just popped up with an invitation to Suga Mama's family reunion. I wish Trudy would have respected Sugar Mama's wish on finding her family. I'll just say it here. Sometimes, you don't want to know where you come from because where you come from sucks and you don't want to relive it and certainly not expose your kids and grandkids to it.
It's nice that Michael's dad doesn't appear and is just regulated to being mentioned in the reboot. I like how Michael rebels against his dad, who could have been homophobic in the OG. It just seemed like he was embarrassed of Michael and just kept him to being on the bench and being the waterboy.
Yeah, I wish the new series created a better dynamic between Suga Mama and Oscar. I'm so tired of seeing their toxic relationship. And I wonder if they're going to bring back characters like Duke from the OG series into the new series. It would be cool to see.
That's true sometimes you don't want to know where you come from. And Suga Mama definitely did not want to go back to her home town and relive that trauma from her childhood. I guess we'll have to wait till season 2 to see how that ends, since that was part 1 and the season finale.
I think it's nice Michael's dad doesn't appear either. I'm happy the show is portraying Michael as someone who is free and comfortable in his skin despite what others may say. I think in the OG series Michael's dad wanted him to be more "masculine" and didn't like how Michael expressed himself. Michael's dad gives off that "be a man" mindset that many men have and project to their sons.
@@Naesthetycs Trudy is just really self-righteous a lot and there really needs to be more of the "You don't have to forgive and let abusive family back into yours or your family's life" instead of the grating "Forgive" or "Family sticks together" narratives often presented,.
I'm not too sure if your views changed as the season went on and eventually finished, but I feel like the characters got worse. They want to try to justify things like Oscar getting beaten by everyone by making him have little to no good moments. But then why would you keep that going at all?
The Maya character is interesting to me because I feel a lot of people have pointed out TPF's colorism, and so it seems their solution is to introduce a dark skinned woman who really isn't about the struggle but just wants everyone to do what she tells them. It feels like someone got really offended and so retaliated with.... Maya.
Also I don't know, they tried to make Dijonay better but she still does stuff like reveal Maya and KG are adopted by a gay couple, and then leaks that couple's address without remorse because... gumbo?? And she shows no remorse, with Trudy and Suga Mama sighing about it?
It weirdly enough feels like a bad time capsule of what the 2000s was in terms of morals in cartoons, even doing worse than the original show did in only ten episodes. Wow.
I still have mixed feelings but a lot of negative feelings about the show. I definitely agree that the characters have gotten worse. I'll be releasing a video sometime this month on my thoughts on the season now that it has finished. I hate how they always make Oscar get mistreated and beat up. Also, I hate how they portray him as unsuccessful. How was he been making nasty snacks for all this time? Why can't they portray him as a successful business owner who makes good snacks? I'm tired of his snacks being nasty. I feel like these characters aren't growing. With any characters in any show there is usually growth and change as time goes on, but with these characters it's not like that.
They continue to do Dijonay wrong. She's the character that gossips and tells everyone's business. Even in the original series she was like that. Now that they have phones, it's way easier for Dijonay to spread rumors through text. That was wrong of her for exposing Maya and KG's parents and also their address. It's ashame. I was hoping for better, but so far the series in underwhelming.
@@Naesthetycs Honestly I walked away from it with mostly a negative experience. Oscar's character was totally flanderized in LaP, they really liked those scenes where Oscar got beat up so now he's just a jerk with no positives so he can get beat up more. If they can't stop making his snacks nasty why not just have him find a new dream. It'd be a good moral about how even when you're in your middle age, your job isn't defined. Your life isn't defined you can keep changing careers and gain new experiences and it's fine.
The only positive I remember in the LaP is she seems to help Penny with that college episode thing. Her just casually walking in Maya and KG's living room as Trudy and Suga Mama basically say she can't be trusted... I don't know, that didn't feel funny to me even though they clearly wanted it to be. LaCienega being more of an obvious enemy is cool but then it turns into a question of why do they really hang out with her? You don't have to have someone in your crew just because they are the leader's neighbor.
I feel like some of the morals are GOOD, but the execution is bad or it's more like the root of the moral is good but it's not good itself. An example is with the teacher episode, it IS good to help someone out but it is not good to not establish boundaries with a person. Yes her life is in shambles, but if you want to lash out at the people helping you out in a nice way, they have every right to cut you off and let you deal with your business on your own. Or how the episode about LaCienega's family ends with this forgive and forget thing, and I get that it is family and really no wrong answer exists but just wrapping up what seems to be years of abuse with the mom apologizing to her sister and not her daughter feels like they didn't know the problem. Also I just didn't feel that bad for LaCienega because she doesn't have many positives anymore. The one where Oscar opens a theme park like... for why? Why does it need to exist they could have done a better episode for Lizzo.
I could also just be petty because with the news about Suga Mama's family apparently her magical sister no longer exists which means that episode probably isn't canon anymore. Which upsets me because that was one of my favorite character episodes because of the ending with Suga Mama and Oscar.
I just don't care for mean spirited content and a lot of LaP feels mean spirited.
Yeah it's all bad. I forgot about Suga Mama's sister in the original series. I didn't realize that she wasn't included in the last episode when Suga Mama goes to visit her family in Oklahoma. I actually liked that episode with Suga Mama's sister too. The end of that episode is one of the rare moments we see Oscar and Suga Mama get along. It does seem like there is a lot of mean spirited energy in Louder and Prouder from the relationship between Suga Mama and Oscar to Penny and her friend group. It's a mess.
I felt that Maya in the new proud family needed to do her homework more and do research before overstepping her limitations. I mean heck. You want to protest something, do your homework (research. ) before you end up getting hurt. Though one time she gave Penny good advice for standing up for herself with babysitting bebe and cece. KG was a chill guy. He kept to himself while avoiding digonay. Digonay has overstepped and overstayed her welcome. Like girl, take a chill pill and back off. KG doesn't like you. He never will.
Dijonay ain't even loyal to Sticky either cus in the previous series she keeps demanding his loyalty and if he doesn't do that she breaks down but when he tells her the truth that he doesn't want her, she doesn't want to face that truth, yea Penny needs some new friends especially ones with no mustard blonde hair
The only two friends in the group who are salvagable for Penny to be friends with is Michael and Zoey. Those two are generally nice and supportive and have her best interest and vice versa. LaCienega and Dijonay and Maya are awful.
When Zoey when back to them after the new boy incident it was so heartbreaking. Even if it turned out the rumor was true she should have still left them for being so toxic and jealous. They called her ugly to her face and somehow they are still in the right!
I love the first show better cause it’s relatable, it’s not anti-white but still has its racial and gender themes without forcing it, and also the animation is so funny and charming
I think the show was afraid to rewrite a major character like Dijonay too much, which is why she was just embellished not improved and her role as Penny's "best friend" wasn't changed. I think they think people *like* Dijonay, but they really should have just rewritten all of Penny's friends, or decide that the point actually is that all of her friends suck and it's not just for comedy purposes that they suck.
Maya might work *if* she was actually intended to be a Soap-Box Sadie who they fully meant to be missing the mark due to her immaturity. If she was meant to have empty arguments and her activism was misguided *as a flaw* not a virtue signal. If she was supposed to be completely missing the point of activism, and have her learning what activism really is. But she's written with complete sincerity. But I think she would have worked best if her brother was the faux-activist and she had his personality and was a more quiet, *real* activist without actually trying. As of now she's just a strawman.
Personally, my opinion, there’s no character I like in the show. I tried to get into the show back when I was young, but never could because there is so much toxic crap in there. The only exception I did have was when there was a crossover with Lilo and stitch, which was OK but everything else in the show. Yeah I’m not a fan. I just think that every character in the show is just god-awful and they should change the name from proud family to the woke family. That’s what this reboot is all about woke bullshit
If Maya started off as an asshole but had development and character growth, I probably wouldn’t mind her so much.
But she never grows or develops and acts like the same asshole that she was back in the pilot.
Honestly, I think the problem with the proud family in general is that it's a good concept but created by the wrong person, this man is clearly a colorist and have problematic views and his story telling reflects it and how he portrays the characters, which is interesting when I think about it cause I remember liking Bebe's kids that he directed but it's been a long time since I've seen that so there may be some problematic things in there too.
A while ago I watched a youtuber called ToonrificTariq do an interview with him and he asked him about colorism within the show and he keep being deliberately obtuse about the conversation and couldn't give a straight answer, pretty much Dijonay was literally made to be a caricature of dark skinned black women He was going to name her delinquenita or something like that, Dijonay is pretty much how he feels about black women so I highly doubt he will do anything with her character that's positve. I would link you to the video but Toonrific Tariq made it private which honestly makes me side eye him a lot because why would you private a video like this?
Wow, that's interesting that youtuber interviewed the creator and he couldn't give a straight answer, that's how you know. I wish the video wasn't private anymore. I want to see the interview. Naming her Delinquenita would have been terrible for the show. It would've been even more critiques about her character. I've never watched Bebe's Kids, but I've heard of it. That's interesting the creator was involved in that show too. But I agree; I think the creators and writers aren't going to change Dijonay to make her character more positive unfortunately.
I see it, especially since as much as dijonay is a stereotype of black woman from the 2000s, I find maya a stereotype of the angry black woman trying to force her views/wants or crying racism. I feel like they made her grating deliberately to belittle black woman activists
@@poxidog Yeah dijonay is a stereotype of black women. I think maya is from the new one I never watched and not sure if I will. Not surprised at all and pretty sure it was on purpose too
9:58 I am a proud climate change and human rights activist and we are the least represented group of minority in American (imo as a who identifies as black/POC [not certain]) . Yes, we are invisible to the naked eye especially if you are male.
please do a video on the lacienega character and why she is so mean and rude towards Penny and why she is More cool with Maya , Zoey , Michael , and dijonay
I'll keep this video idea in mind! I definitely find it odd that LaCienega is so rude to Penny for no reason, but is friends with everyone else. It seems like she's jealous of Penny.
@@Naesthetycs I know right I loved watching the show as a kid growing up but the characters I didn't like were the Gross sisters because they were nothing but a bunch of bullies and always taking kids money on a daily basis , la cienega because she is very vain spoiled snobby selfish mean cruel phony as hell and most of all antagonistic towards Penny for absolutely no apparent reason at all and dijonay because she is fake and very phony and clearly doesn't Care about Penny also not to mention that she constantly takes advantage of penny at every chance she gets
@@Naesthetycs Penny needs new friends people who genuinely likes her and Cares about her and her well being the only people who are cool with her is Zoey sticky and Michael
Zoey and Michael seem to be the only two who are neutral out of the entire friend group. They don't involve themselves in drama, they're not backstabbing, or act jealous like LaCienega and Dijonay
@@Naesthetycs most definitely they're more loyal to Penny
Unpopular opinion: I prefer the og Michael.
Me too!
They really could have written this so much better.
The Proud Family reboot has a massive anti-male vibe to it.
Your first mistake was expecting better of Dijonay. The show made it clear from jump that they were hellbent on trying to make her a stereotype. But I really had higher hopes for Maya, because this was their opportunity to rewrite the colorism issues that the original show had.
....And they failed, in making her an unnecessarily standoffish and aggressive activist type character. You can do that character correctly, and it's been done before. But Maya is just aggravating to listen to at certain points.
'm a huge fan of The Proud Family , The reboot was just overhyped They couldn't have revamped Dijonay like they did with Michael Maya just gets on my nervous nor a fan of her at all. So hopefully in Session 2 we're seen come changed in Maya I've stopped watching the show .
Yeah I agree. The reboot was overhyped. I think we were all excited because this show was a favorite of a lot of ours when we were younger so the news of it coming back on TV made everyone hype it up. But I think a lot of fans are disappointed. I'll keep watching the show but mostly to continue my commentary on it lol.
You guys definitely spoke on this too soon. I think reviews should be done after a season is done. The characters are dynamic they have their faults. They are not perfect and that is excellent writing imo. They are annoying and yet lovable at the same time. Dijonay is not the exact same as she was from the original series she is different and better in a way. She sticks up for friend Penny, sometimes will go with the flow like Zoey, and is annoying at times. 😂
What are your thoughts currently after the season now being over? This series to me is a lot less negative and mean spirited compared to the original. This one has a lot more love put into it. As a child watching the original, I only gave it views because that was the only black family cartoon TV series for me to see BG's. I watched it because I felt obligated to, I didn't like Penny's family or friends everyone was just so mean and nasty. It turned me off so I would barely watch the show.
This reboot is so much better so far. By far!
Again, what are you thoughts on this series so far?
I agree it is better to review a season after it's done. It's hard to review a season based on the first two episodes. I do plan to release a season review on my channel soon now that the season is over. I think Dijonay is different and all the characters are different in a way, but there are some things about Dijonay that are the same like her being a gossip and boy crazy which I don't like. But a show isn't a show without conflict or some type of drama so I understand it has to be written in there somewhere through the characters or through situations the characters are put in.
Not gonna lie, I really liked the last four episodes of the season compared to the first episodes. I like that the show is addressing social issues and how cultured it is. It was nice to see the episode with LaCienega and her quinceañera and the last episode highlighting historical Black towns in Oklahoma. I do think this series has more positive messages within each episode that children and adults can learn from. So, I definitely see the love in this series that you're referring to. However, I still feel iffy about Dijonay and Maya's characters though. I'll be posting a full season review soon sharing more of my thoughts so stay tuned for that. Thanks for watching!
❤ i ❤love penny more she best of all 😊
I don’t like how the new reboot. Penny and Dijonay both go after other guys despite having boyfriends. Penny even let another boy kiss her despite having a boyfriend and Trudy prevented Oscar from confronting him about it. Maya is a self-righteous prick and LaCienaga is the same as she was. Trudy and Suga Mama both treat Oscar like shit yet will flock to him whenever they need something from him. The new reboot is way worse than it was back then. They should’ve just let the show remain as it is.
Dijonay is just a fusion of Kim & Nikki Parker without their interesting and positive qualities. change my mind...
I don’t like either one because it’s from Disney and I don’t like Disney. It stinks🤧🧀
This was always a woke reboot show. People already broke down why those reboots suck. Plus the way Dijonay treated Zoe in one episode just because a boy like her and for having preferences. And people mainly black conservatives have a better argument why their virtue signaling about slavery 1619 project rant does not work. Thomas Sowell breaks down the history of slavery better than anyone else, but too many black students don't read and know about him, because the schools don't want them to know otherwise they can not push their propaganda onto emotionally naive students.
Eww you one of those...
#GETWOKEGOBROKE!
Maya is just a woke joke
Im sorry but it’s a-reboot ..
what did you expect from a Re-boot? They are just picking up from where they left off since 2005, their still kids in 8th grade, so their just being kids.. and well we always have that one friend like Dijanae, we all have one, the show is very Authentic, and realistic.. everyone is different… give it some time tho,
Personally, what I expected from a reboot was more growth and not just pick up where they left off. A reboot doesn't have to pick up where it left off, it can literally be anything, like the show "Bel-Air" which is a reboot from Fresh Prince of Bel Air. The show has the same story line but the characters and their traits are completely different.
I understand they're still in 8th grade and kids are still growing and evolving at that stage in that life. I think the show would be more realistic if they showed that growth in the show. I understand Dijonay is going to be Dijonay. She is known as the gossip and the "friend" who may backstab you. But I feel like she doesn't always have to be that way. There needs to be a point where she acknowledges her behavior and recognizes it's harmful to her friends. That's more realistic to me. I do agree with you that the show is realistic and authentic in other ways, but I still think it could be better. I will say I liked the 2nd half of the season better than the first half, so I'll continue to watch going into the next season and give it some time.
@@Naesthetycs Bel-Air is also a reimagining of the OG show. Proud Family never said it will be a reimagining. With Dijanae, yes its always the dark skin girls not being portrayed in a "positive" light but hell my dark skin younger sister was Dijanae growing up. It can be switched up but if every character was a Penny rip off would you watch?