Having the same issue with a 6 month Berner.. Not howling but he will clamp with force and not let go. If you find any good techniques, send them this way!!
If you watch an artfully skilled protection sport decoy working a green dog, high pitched (think wounded rabbit-like sounds) noises from whip cracking to high yelling actually and usually helps arouse the dog’s prey drive, which is the impulse driving your puppy’s biting. So, your mock yelps actually trigger the pup’s drive-it isn’t bite inhibition but bite enhancement that’s being conditioned by yelps. I classify these mimicking mama dog techniques under what we call the werewolf fallacy, ie., owners attempt to display to pup that they’ve turned into a canine. This is as unproductive as it is weird for both humans and their dogs. The data that dogs clearly distinguish humans and dogs is settled. Dogs naturally do not view humans as conspecifics. Our healthful and helpful relationships with our great animals rests on respecting and maintaining the ontological boundaries and creational laws, not least because the dogs do!
Me too! sorry I just relate. I have a 13 week mini goldendoodle, as you can see my pfp, anyway your pup is definitely much older now, have you solved the issue? If so do you have tips?
@@libbyclow1970 Same. Any updates? It feels so hopeless, right now. I’ve tried everything. We see a behavior specialist next week, but at this point all I feel for this pup is regret. 😔
@@wymfyf They felt the type of biting…with unprovoked lunging, jumping up and biting my torso, bit my upper chest, was “not normal puppy biting” and recommended I return the dog to the rescue, before it got bigger. The rescue was not at all compassionate or understanding, but did find a foster with more puppy training experience. I sure hope nobody with children adopts it.
All those methods seems to be working only on some angels puppies, mine don't give a shit about yelping or any particual sound, he just wants to bite and he will. I would. Like to see some real example, not a 2 months puppu which does not know hownto stand or some that will stop after the first try. All those "how to make puppy stop biting" should be shown on some hard example to be valueable
Some terrible advice Mr Dunbar. Anyone that has ever trained dogs to work for Agencies such as Police, Military and other uses where we actively want dogs to bite hard is to teach puppies in the early stages of development to enjoy the bite. The way it is reinforced naturally in the training stages is to Yelp when the puppy bites you. Cause and effect. Perhaps you should review the Science behind your suggestions. Kind Regards
Perhaps you should consider that most puppies are raised to be companion animals, not working dogs. And perhaps some puppies can be raised for bite work while MOST puppies are raised appropriately for family life. Consider, also, that puppies naturally teach each other bite inhibition by playing with litter mates and YET these very same puppies still excel in bite sports and bite work. Basically, K-91Q, you're simply wrong.
@@danielcastello6054 Thanks for the reply Daniel. It has ZERO to do with working dogs or no working dogs. It is about real world bite inhibition which equates to educating the dog to NOT bite regardless of breed or drive level. The down side of what is suggest causes terrible outcomes when there are better ways to teach a puppy that hands are not for biting. Puppies in many cases learn to inflict more pain when the other puppy yelps and yes some do stop. These same softer puppies also stop with human interaction, but for the ones that don't, the process above gets people bitten more often than not. You have a great day and stay safe in Covid....!
@@beeskneesbabe1 Exactly. Some dogs will certainly back off when you yelp, but the vast majority will not regardless of their breeding. The best ways to train involve teaching the dog to interact in a positive way with your hand.
Thank you for the education
Thanks for the video.
I have a Lab that has developed a very soft mouth.
Now working on an English Setter that is nippy but she is learning.
When I yelp back at my 5 mo puppy he continues to bite and starts howling at me and wants to play bite even more
Having the same issue with a 6 month Berner.. Not howling but he will clamp with force and not let go. If you find any good techniques, send them this way!!
If you watch an artfully skilled protection sport decoy working a green dog, high pitched (think wounded rabbit-like sounds) noises from whip cracking to high yelling actually and usually helps arouse the dog’s prey drive, which is the impulse driving your puppy’s biting. So, your mock yelps actually trigger the pup’s drive-it isn’t bite inhibition but bite enhancement that’s being conditioned by yelps. I classify these mimicking mama dog techniques under what we call the werewolf fallacy, ie., owners attempt to display to pup that they’ve turned into a canine. This is as unproductive as it is weird for both humans and their dogs. The data that dogs clearly distinguish humans and dogs is settled. Dogs naturally do not view humans as conspecifics. Our healthful and helpful relationships with our great animals rests on respecting and maintaining the ontological boundaries and creational laws, not least because the dogs do!
@@thekynologist155 Well said Kevin. There is no substitute for understanding how drive impacts learning!
My 17 week Weimaraner also continues to bite after I have yelped and when I walk away she nips the back on my legs. What am I doing wrong?
Me too! sorry I just relate. I have a 13 week mini goldendoodle, as you can see my pfp, anyway your pup is definitely much older now, have you solved the issue? If so do you have tips?
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@@libbyclow1970 Same. Any updates? It feels so hopeless, right now. I’ve tried everything. We see a behavior specialist next week, but at this point all I feel for this pup is regret. 😔
@@madamemimosa8325 Hi, may I ask if having a behaviorist helped?
@@wymfyf They felt the type of biting…with unprovoked lunging, jumping up and biting my torso, bit my upper chest, was “not normal puppy biting” and recommended I return the dog to the rescue, before it got bigger. The rescue was not at all compassionate or understanding, but did find a foster with more puppy training experience. I sure hope nobody with children adopts it.
All those methods seems to be working only on some angels puppies, mine don't give a shit about yelping or any particual sound, he just wants to bite and he will. I would. Like to see some real example, not a 2 months puppu which does not know hownto stand or some that will stop after the first try. All those "how to make puppy stop biting" should be shown on some hard example to be valueable
Some terrible advice Mr Dunbar. Anyone that has ever trained dogs to work for Agencies such as Police, Military and other uses where we actively want dogs to bite hard is to teach puppies in the early stages of development to enjoy the bite. The way it is reinforced naturally in the training stages is to Yelp when the puppy bites you. Cause and effect. Perhaps you should review the Science behind your suggestions.
Kind Regards
Perhaps you should consider that most puppies are raised to be companion animals, not working dogs. And perhaps some puppies can be raised for bite work while MOST puppies are raised appropriately for family life. Consider, also, that puppies naturally teach each other bite inhibition by playing with litter mates and YET these very same puppies still excel in bite sports and bite work. Basically, K-91Q, you're simply wrong.
@@danielcastello6054 Thanks for the reply Daniel. It has ZERO to do with working dogs or no working dogs. It is about real world bite inhibition which equates to educating the dog to NOT bite regardless of breed or drive level. The down side of what is suggest causes terrible outcomes when there are better ways to teach a puppy that hands are not for biting. Puppies in many cases learn to inflict more pain when the other puppy yelps and yes some do stop. These same softer puppies also stop with human interaction, but for the ones that don't, the process above gets people bitten more often than not. You have a great day and stay safe in Covid....!
@@beeskneesbabe1 Exactly. Some dogs will certainly back off when you yelp, but the vast majority will not regardless of their breeding. The best ways to train involve teaching the dog to interact in a positive way with your hand.
@@k-9iqdogtrainingandadulted511 then what is your suggestion to teach bite inhibition in puppies like GSDs or Belgian Malinois?
@@itsjustcassiee3 hi