A Perfect Circle Orestes REACTION! - Jersh Reacts
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- Jersh reacts to the song Orestes by A Perfect Circle.
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The logo is a perfect circle though...it's the shadows on a three dimensional circle. You can find pics to explain online. Great video!
Once you see it, you can never look at the logo the same again.
20 years, and I’ve never known that. My mind is officially blown
@@mkswk09 hahaha it took me about the same, seen the tattoo of it on the back of Maynards hand on a pic and all the sudden it just popped out to me lol. Couple of decades after I'd first seen it too
@Sthaman Sinha not a sphere, a circle or ring...
@Sthaman Sinha 9gag.com/gag/ap2RXv5/a-perfect-circle-band-logo-is-actually-a-ring
I always saw the negative space of their logo as the actual circle, (also, obvi ref to lady bits.)
This song directly references The Oresteia, (cycle of greek dramas.) After Agamemnon returns from the Trojan War with his prize-Casandra, (who is all like, “I wouldn’t go in there if I were you, she’s gonna kill you” and he was all like, “shut up concubine, that chicks my wife why would she kill me,” and she was like “whatever, I don’t like you anyway”,) is killed by his wife, Queen Clytemnestra,
Orestes comes home and kills his mother, (because Apollo told him to-Apollo made me do it?,) as a result he is pursued by the furies, (it was either a punishment for murder or specifically matricide.) Eventually, Athena shows up and resolves everything, (deus ex machina anyone?)
Considering the song is on the same album as “Judith,” which is supposedly, specifically about Maynard James Keenan’s relationship with his mother, I feel like Keenan’s issues with his mother is likely a layer of the song’s meaning.
My shot in the dark guess is that it might have to do with how when you know someone is sick and probably going to die you start to kill them in your mind to prepare for when they eventually do die-you’ve already experienced many of the emotions from the loss so the actual loss isn’t so painful in the moment, and, sadly, they are left somewhat abandoned because you’re treating them like they’re already gone. I have no evidence to back up the idea that this interpretation is at all autobiographical.
Knew you'd love that ending!! Had to pick my jaw up off the floor after I heard this song for the first time lol! So glad you finally got to it! And at some point after you finish this react-through of this record, would 100% recommend checking out the "Live at Red Rocks" version too
My favorite of APC is The Noose. Would love a reaction
I’m no APC fan but sonically, I think Mer De Noms is one of the best rock albums ever.
And you ain't wrong tho! holds strong to this day.
how can i say, i am not a fan of this group and in the next set you find mer de noms one of the best albums ever...?
@@Agostoic Agreed my friend
This is the second most beautiful song APC has written behind 3 Libras. The call and response of the intro guitars to the ethereal ghost chant when the guitars drop out. The lyrics pick up at the point Orestes returns home and learns that his mother had her lover kill his father and now the gods demand him to avenge his death by killing his mother. Its his internal conflict. I believe this parallels Maynards strained relationship with his mother and I feel like its him trying to let go of all the anger and hostility he held against her from his childhood, to her blind faith, etc.
I really do like the effects they put on the woman's voice after the "I can almost hear you scream". It's very haunting, as intended obviously. And I do agree with how you view the song.
My dude I've been watching you every day for like 2 month HOW IS YOUR HAIR THE SAME
I know right. My hair is gonna look like Maynard's wig by the time you see his get longer 😆 I think Jersh has a secret person cutting his hair on the side while I end up like Tarzan lol
One word... Flobee
💁🏻♂️😂
"Umbilical residue keeping me from killing you" could be his love (despite everything) for his mother.
I can't wait till you get to 3 Libras 😍
I've been waiting for a month lol its exciting but bittersweet.
The logo has always made me think of a parent (big half circle) and child (smaller half circle). And this song feels like Maynard trying to come to terms with having to "pull the plug" on his mother. I think you should revisit the song Jimmy by Tool.
Officially I want to recommend: 3 Libras, The Noose, Blue, Fiddle and the Drum, Passive.
Right? The wait is killing me. Its like he's eating around the plate. Get into the meal already my man!
He said he will do the first 2 APC albums entirely
Add Pet to this and I'm sold
Maynard once stated that A Perfect Circle was representative of his feminine side, while tool was more from his male side. APC is more emotional and from the heart, while Tool is a more mental and using the brain. These 2 bands have more of a role in my life than all other music combined. Really wish old APC would have worked with Chino.....#DannyLohnerGOAT
You think that was good wait till "3 Libras" 💜💜💜
Oh he has no idea.. my favorite song ever 🤩
@@SOMA-no2gq mine too!You cant ever get tired of that song!🔥
Josh Freese is actually a great drummer. Dont really get to hear how good he is here but on his work with Nine Inch Nails he is top quality. Him performing the drums for their song Wish live is great 👌
Their drummer is a prolific studio musician. He sight-read tracked drums for the 1st Avril Lavigne album in like half a session.
Gosh, this song ❤️ I’ve been struggling with chronic disease for 20 years and always being on meds for the pain the line “one more medicated peaceful moment” always stuck with me since the first time I heard it, it’s going to be my next tattoo for sure
I believe Orestes is about Maynard trying to come to terms pulling the plug on his mom while she was sick.
If you look at the band log the light parts you see is the outer and inner part of a ring if you are looking at it at an angle.So it is a perfect circle if we take the time and focus to look at it differently
It's a vesica piscis, that's why is perfect even though the logo is "broken".
It's not an offset circle, you can fit a perfect circle inside of the large side and outside of the small side...
Like found here:
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Your perfect circle are those things or people that make you whole, make you who are, make your life as 'perfect' as it can be.
This song and '3 Libras' are my favorites off this album. Even though this band doesn't go insane on its time signatures and instrumentation like Tool does, it has real moments of beauty and emotion to its songs. Their melodies and harmonies are really strong.
I take the clue of the umbilical residue and relate it to his mother. Him wanting to put her out of her misery, after all the years of her suffering, and him having to watch. I love this song! So much!
The logo is of a perfect Circle, you just have to imagine a ring and the light is shining from the left. It lights up the left hand outer part of the circle and the right hand inner part of the circle.
Definitely my favorite APC song and hit the like button before I even watched. (Been waiting for this one) I still think the Stone and Echo version will blow you away...then again,that whole set is amazing!! Looking forward to future APC reacts. 🖤
Glad you listened to the studio version first. The Stone & Echo live version is hauntingly beautiful, but I think you can appreciate it more knowing the song a bit.
While I love that version it just misses the subtle nuances of the studio version.. the dueling guitars.. the low baritone guitar with the haunting women's voice. I do like how Billy fills that missing part with a double solo live though
James Shunkey Agreed. The Stone & Echo stand outs are The Package and When the Levee Breaks for me.
Orestes killed his mother to avenge his father.
Eths - Crucifere
This is an amazing song makes me cry every time i hear it live an I'm singing my heart out to it.
react to Losss by Bjork
You gotta do the live version
Sopor Aeternus - Beautiful Thorn
Listening to Moon Shaped Pool - Radiohead tonight and think you will melt with these tunes, Jersh. Getting a feel for what you appreciate and musically, it is some of their best work. Don’t know how much your son is into music, but can say kids of all ages love them because it’s groovy enough and adults love them because of the higher order musicality.
Daydreaming is gorgeous, and that reworking of True Love Waits was fantastic as well. Very chill album 👍
This song is in my top 3 from this band, even the studio version, when the time comes and you start to reacting to the live versions of APC then you are going to say "yeah! Definitely my top 1 from then". The only song that im going to recommend its from Puscifer, called "Remedy".
Nice isn't it?
Your reaction at the final chorus, when Maynard's multitrack vocals hit, kinda perfectly encapsulates how I feel about A Perfect Circle's debut and, really, most of their work: a darn good band on their own, but it's Maynard that elevates it to something special. (Though Paz Lenchantin goddamn held it down on the bass on this album, I will give them that.) Thirteenth Step is the least egregious in this regard - the band's songwriting and technical ability improved a lot and the gap was a lot smaller. On the work that followed, sometimes I actually felt as if instead of Maynard lifting the band up, the rest of the band was dragging him down. (Actually, I feel that way about pretty much all of Eat the Elephant.) But, of course, that's just how I see it. Very interested to see how you react to the rest of their catalog after dissecting their debut.
I believe that there is no such thing as a perfect circle or a straight line. This drummer is the same one in the band puscifer. I dont believe I'm giving away too much info by saying that Maynard joined puscifer to write rev. 22:20. See if you recognize that song. I think you would.🙂
I don’t know what the intention was with the lyrics, but my dad was sick and medicated to the point of unconsciousness. He passed away before anyone had to make the decision to stop treatment, but the lyrics “cut away, clear away, snip away and sever this umbilical residue, keeping me from killing you” never had a violent connotation for me. “I can almost hear you scream, give me one more medicated peaceful moment” was pretty poignant too. This album was in my heavy rotation when all that was happening and Orestes was a particularly difficult listen.
3 Libras, The Package, The Noose, The Outsider, By and Down, Gravity, Weak and Powerless....🤘😎
Josh Freese is no slouch (he's no Danny Carey either). However he does shine through more on the next album teaming up with Jeordie on the bass. Very groovy.
He has some fantastic fills in Judith, but yeah they turn him loose more on The 13th Step.
I think you only have 1 song left from this album: 3 Libras. It's definitely one of their best.
Excuse me? If you think Josh Freese doesn't shine on some of these tracks is probably because you're focusing on something else, such as lyrics or guitar.
Just an example. From 5:45 to 6:05 I was, as always, in awe of Josh's choices, which sound to me anything but typical, when your comments finally were "really solid guitar here" and "good melody" :) Which, don't get me wrong, are 100% correct.
Anyway, I understand this was your first listening.
I think Passive is one of the best songs PC has (Although technically reworked from a Maynard/Reznor Vacant song from Tapeworm project)
My favorite APC song. It's so haunting and beautiful.
This song still giving me goosebumps all these years later, wow.
You're definitely right that no one is Danny Carey and you can't expect his crazy polyrhythms and octopus-like fills really, but Josh Freese is actually a really great drummer. He can play virtually any style (check out his insane discography of work as a session drummer -- dude is wicked talented) and he does have some really great grooves and unique drum patterns with A Perfect Circle too, particularly on their second album 13th Step. The song "The Noose" immediately comes to mind in as an example. "The Package", too.
Aaaand down the Maynard , APC , Tool rabbit hole you go .... have fun Alice ....
You might research Orestes. Killed his Mom to avenge his Dad.
After a few decades of watching his Mother suffer failing health from an aneurysm, including
paralysis and inability to communicate verbally not to mention myriad associated complications
that must have been nightmarish, thoughts of euthanasia must have floated through Maynard's
mind incessantly. How long do you allow a person to suffer because you're having trouble saying
goodbye?
I loved your comment about A Perfect Circle's symbol being an imperfect circle. This gave me flashbacks to a funny moment where I was at some local beer festival, and the produce delivery service Full Circle was stopping people to talk about their services. Tipsy me just HAD to point out that their logo was only a partial circle haha.
Probably my favorite APC song. I will say that the alternate opening in the live version is dope as fuck too. Good lookin out jersh.
Can you listen and react to Chinos side band Palms? The song Shortwave Radio is fucking awesome
Check out the live version of this song. Orestes "Live at red rocks" friggin amazing.
Tori Amos does a duet with Maynard for the song "Muhammed My Friend." I think you'll like it.
Daniel Matute and "Muhammed my Friend" is just a great song in general!
I'll second that
It would be good if there wasn’t crazy teenage girls screaming the whole time. Completely ruined
Yeah, logo is a 3 dimensional perfect circle but we only see the sides (depth) colored orange, the rest of the shape is void. Center what’s left over the text and it has an off-kilter look.
Klone - Yonder
Please react to The Package off of the second Album.
The guitar riffs in this song are so satisfying. I used to listen to APC while mowing the lawn as a teenager, and it made me forget that I was doing.a chore :P
Bass and drums are much better on The 13th Step (no offense to Paz)
3 Libras PUH-LEASE!!!
This live may be the most beautiful thing I’ve ever heard , and there’s video too
Thanks for reacting to this! I hope you'll consider doing the live concert version at Red Rocks. IMO it's even better than the studio.
Favorite track of all time.... great review as always!
The noose has pretty incredible drums
Honestly the live at the red rocks show/album is there best work
It took me a month to get my girlfriend to see it was a wedding ring that I had tattooed on me as the proposal, then she CRIED when she saw it ! 🌘
To release. Kill. Put behind. Let go.
My favorit song of this album
Do the live version of this song please! Great reaction man
Just a personal opinion - every song that was done at the Stone & Echo live concert > studio version of the song. There's just something special about that performance and the mix of the sound. The Jay Leno live shows for "The Outsider" and "3 Libras" are solid, but those have already been heavily recommended. If you liked "Orestes," you'll like "3 Libras."
Also, yes Danny Carey is hard to match and APC definitely has a different sound than Tool.
I recommend Gojira - Remembrance
Type O Negative: Haunted
Pretty good tune. Quintessential APC. The strain in Maynard's voice is everything.
Such a beautiful song. BTW- it was that lyric that named the band through the advice of Billy and Paz.
Read on Wikipedia 'The tragedy of Oreste'. This song is referred to Maynard's mother.
You later gave the reason it's not a drum heavy song. It's somber. Didn't think you gave the drummer enough credit for getting off during the chorus of The Hollow, which is more uptempo cuz of the subject matter. This song is about excising connection w/ his mother who died which is emotionally still impacting him. Best song on the album, imo. Figured you'd be high on it.
Also, Freese is a session drummer. He is very good, but he does tend to hang back and let the rest of the musicians shine.
bernman23 Tim Alexander from Primus was actually the drummer for The Hollow
@@killakaminski OK, I should have stuck my generic classification of "the drummer". Even though I'm a fan of the band, I did have to look it up. I knew Maynard of course and Howerdel. Jersh did remark unfavorably about the drumming for The Hollow too. Whoever was on Judith banged it out. Was that Freese?
One of their best songs! Greetings from Portugal!
The circle isnt cut up, you're just looking at it from a different perspective. It's what all humans do
It's a vesica piscis. Ya know, sacred geometry...
@@Qliphirot or it's just a ring turned sideways. You choose
Lissie - Hero
🙂👍
Do the live version in this case it’s AMAZING harmony . I lost my mother so this song hits me
A struggle to pull the plug on his dying mother
While I can agree that he may have thought of a hypothetical situation where that might arise, his mother passed away at least 4 years after he wrote this so I don't think it would have been literal
@@SOMA-no2gq She could have been in the hospital due complications and those thoughts went through his head
@@wilderi I've always thought about the pulling the plug theory for awhile but the timeline was always what pulled me away.. I know she was paralyzed and her health was declining but I don't think she was in the hospital circa 98-99. She died from an aneurysm in 03. But I do believe it is something that would have been on his mind as a possibility. He keeps most of his relationship with her to himself and regrets exposing himself in songs about her to the fans.
You're really undervaluing the drummer, especially when you hear their last album where they have a new drummer. He stands out plenty on the album to me.
It’s just a difference in opinion, and to be fair, comparing to Danny Carey isn’t fair to anyone so it’s a tough act to follow lol
@@SuperJersh I mean Danny is on another level. But I don't think Josh Freese had as much freedom in the writing since Billy does all the writing, except on the new album Maynard got involved with the music and not just the lyrics. But again I sorely miss Josh's style on the new album.
I always wonder how his part was written though. Is the song pretty much done and then he adds his part? I doubt it's like anything in how Tool writes their music. Banging it out for 4-6 hrs a day, months on end. Tour awhile and then rinse and repeat.
The live version from the red rocks performance is a must!!!! It’s so amazing, brilliant quality as well
Maybe I'm being too literal about this, but I always assumed this was Maynard fighting with himself on whether to euthanize his mother, because of the pain/misery she was obviously in due to her paralysis. Orestes was indeed a revenge killing, but I think the name was more just being used for the concept of matricide generally.
Your analysis is spot on, but I attributed it to his relationship with his mother(maybe I have an Oedipus complex) towards the end of her life. The album was around the time she passed.
Still waiting on 3 Libras! Also, hope you react to all of thirteenth step 😊
Wooo been waiting for this one for a while. One of my favorite songs of all time.
This one is EPIC! Thanks!
A Literal Metafore:)
Yayyy
"The drums are fine?!?"The drums are awesome in this song!
A Perfect Circle - 3 Libras
Katatonia - Night Is The New Day
Estrum - All I Want
Anathema - One Last Goodbye
He will appreciate the drumming much more if he watches the live version at Red Rocks.
That's a Katatonia album not a song.
@@JonathonTheAsshole I know. I recommend the whole album.
Another great analysis!
True story: there are 3 things I am anxiously awaiting in my life right now.
1. To hear back on a final approval of my home equity loan.
2. To get a call to schedule my first interview for a health and safety manager at Amazon.
3. For you to react to "The Greatest Show on Earth" by Nightwish.
Sad, I know
Amazon can wait.. its Nightwish or bust lol 😆
The live stuff from them isn't as good as say how to tool is great live. It's just not as good as studio with a perfect circle
Hahaha 🤣
Ha, they said it!