Do Modern Bentleys Still Feel Like The Real Thing? Bentley GT Vs Continental R

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  • @Birmingham_racing
    @Birmingham_racing ปีที่แล้ว +79

    I think older Bentleys and rolls were made to be more special because they weren't intended to sell in big number so they took more time on it. On top of that the owners were posh so had higher expectations

    • @paulcruse
      @paulcruse ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheshire footballer’s wives are posh.. 😅

    • @lebojay
      @lebojay ปีที่แล้ว +7

      There’s an interesting Venn diagram in there somewhere depicting the relationship between wealth and taste, then and now. 🤔

    • @redbluesome2829
      @redbluesome2829 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The GT was designed and built for a new age where volume sales to the bourgeoisie and nouveau riche unwashed masess would be the business plan. The same plan that brought about such cars as the Gallardo.
      Commercially successful, taking parent companies to new heights on investment, but only cheapens the marque.

    • @henq
      @henq ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the previous buyers had chauffeurs

    • @abtiepolo1018
      @abtiepolo1018 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@redbluesome2829exactly.
      They used to be Hermès and now they are Vuitton...
      Not, at all, the same back culture, valors, money origin ..

  • @easyglide301
    @easyglide301 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The Continental R is the most beautiful Bentley

  • @martinclapton2724
    @martinclapton2724 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    The older car was hand built, albeit on a production line. You have proper chrome , proper wood and beautiful detailing. The newer car has plastic chrome and veneers , in other words it’s a production line car , albeit a posh one , or a posh Audi/ VW. The older car gets my vote .

    • @jameslindemann6244
      @jameslindemann6244 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That´s not quite true. Its real wood and also real chrome on the new Bentleys. I still prefer the old pre-VW models though.

    • @Sharakomusic
      @Sharakomusic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The new ones are handbuilt too.

  • @richardstamper5630
    @richardstamper5630 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Interesting review - I am very lucky to own a late Continental R so I speak from real world experience. Frankly, anything with four headlights is bound to get my attention but it was more than just that which drew me to this car. It's got an elegance not many modern cars can match, it's powerful enough but at over 2.5tons it won't win races against the more modern stuff, that said, it pull like a train with real linear progression and in a way that's immensely pleasurable. We took our Conti on a 2,500k mile road trip in June 23 around Portugal & Spain where it performed flawlessly. As you can imagine, it drew many a glancing view but with age it's lost that flash element and is enjoyed for what it is - a fine old car. At around 70mph the rev clock is nudging 1500 rpm and returning 21mpg, which isn't bad for 6.75 litres V8. I just love it, there's real craftsmanship on show and although my wife is no car buff, she openly admits it's the most comfortable car she's ever been in and on that trip we just consumed the miles with serenity. Is it perfect, well no but that doesn't take anything away from it quality. We use ours like an everyday car which is surprising to many, it's off down the pub or doing the weekly shop at Lidle, it doesn't matter because people leave the car alone and I hope get pleasure from seeing one of these rare masterpieces.

    • @dannykeeley9005
      @dannykeeley9005 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nice to know some people actually using their classic instead of parking them up in a garage most of the time

    • @David-jm7mq
      @David-jm7mq ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Also the owner of an earlier, 1994, Continental R. While I appreciate this review/comparison, it is really like comparing apples and oranges. The 'R' and the 'GT' are two different cars. They do have the Bentley name in common, but the purpose-build of each vehicle is totally different, along with what each vehicle was competing with at the time. I also drive mine regularly, and sometimes look for a reason to take it out rather than something that gets better gas mileage. My wife agrees with your wife about the comfort factor. Also, I can more easily fit two people in the back seat of the 'R' than what looks like is available in the 'GT'. The 'GT' looks like a 2+2, with the back seats only purpose is to keep insurance costs down.

    • @lint8391
      @lint8391 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did a 4,000 mile 40 day road trip to Iberia in June and July. 35 mpg in my 2006 Volvo XC90 D5. Including some off-roading when we stayed in a cork farm.
      There were 5 of us with plenty of luggage.

  • @marinedrive5484
    @marinedrive5484 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    An interesting comparison that really highlights the difference between the two models. The older Bentley is most definitely the Pukka Bentley when it's put alongside the VW Bentley. It just oozes class and elegance, whereas the VW Bentley - whilst still being a good car - has that Cheshire, football player feel about it. The price difference is quite telling which reflects the fact that one is very much a hand-built car whilst the other is more of a mass-produced car.

    • @crissyb00
      @crissyb00 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The older Bentley is perfect.. except it is to much like a Rolls. Bentleys were always fast cars, until rolls got hold of them. Then they became just a Rolls with a different badge.
      VW did a pretty good job of blending the class and the speed. Just a shame it had to be based of some other car.. not so bespoke or hand made now.

    • @christianvanneuves9958
      @christianvanneuves9958 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yep, the new one has the Wayne Rooney look and feel.

    • @crissyb00
      @crissyb00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christianvanneuves9958 Way to young for Wayne. He like em to have a few wrinkles

    • @abtiepolo1018
      @abtiepolo1018 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting point about the football.
      The continental R would have never been in the hands of any football player...
      It saus a lot about what Occident has turned to since globalization.

    • @abtiepolo1018
      @abtiepolo1018 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@crissyb00the continental R , and the extraordinary Azure, never had an equivalent in the Rolls Royce range.

  • @asdreww
    @asdreww ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Loved the side by side shot. The older continental made the GT look small!!!

    • @miles-x4u
      @miles-x4u 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      17 ft 6 vs 15 ft 9!

  • @katieprice2
    @katieprice2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Excellent idea to compare the two. Thank you. To me, the question of quality is not so much whether something is "bespoke" in order to show off, but depends on the amount of time somebody was ready to invest in something. And the British car manufacturers (probably still do) invest a lot of time. I appreciate that silent joy, and that is also what I would be ready to pay for extra. And in comparison, it is probably relatively cheap :)

    • @boxsterman77
      @boxsterman77 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Investing time and effort is but a means of getting to quality; not quality itself. Were that not true, I’d have so many projects in my house of incredible quality. I can assure you that I do not.
      I always think of quality in terms of fit, function, feel, longevity, durability and some other more ineffable unquantifiable factors like visual, tactile and auditory appeal.
      Very often high quality can be achieved by quickly and with little human involvement during production.
      Very often, a process that is lengthy and labor intensive produces crap.

    • @nontasanastasios7612
      @nontasanastasios7612 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@boxsterman77 you are clearly talking by today's standards, by the way have you heard of the English wheel? A labor intensive tool, producing masterpieces, or you can compare it to henry fords marvel of production. Which way of the mirror are you looking at?
      I will never forget this: Im not English btw though ive lived in the UK for a good amount of my life, Around 2000s i was after either a 5series an E series or a Jaguar, i went for a E39 530D station wagon which was dominating (at my eyes) everyone else. An old friend of mine went for a Jaguar, we sat down somewhere and while talking about cars i said my E39 is better in all areas, his answer was "yeah but i drive a Jaguar and you drive a common BMW"

    • @katieprice2
      @katieprice2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi, I can agree with you. Time invested without improvement is not worth it. At the same time, to me, this was not time wasted.
      It may have been old school but coming with the benefit of tradition and thereby something I can connect with. These cars new are both not my price range but with the older one I could and can sympathize more (although original owners probably snobs). I like to believe that it was at least in part built with the will to keep something going that once was great and still captures peoples' imagination.
      And btw you can clearly see the effort that went into it, at least in the parts were they could make a difference on their budget: the wood, like marble in a palace, is obviuosly chosen for its symmetry and the leather is that stuff that makes shoes and belts look classy from a distance and therefore you always look well dressed, no matter what the wear.
      As a tourist, driving through beautiful England (or any other) countrside in the old car certainly is a completely different experience than with the "international" one. Because it came from there and it fits. And that needed time to develop. The other one, no matter how good, just arrived and was only able to make "references".

  • @friederichgerlach9825
    @friederichgerlach9825 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I my opinion the old continental is a gentlemens car and the GT a car for soccer stars 😊

  • @S2NAZ
    @S2NAZ ปีที่แล้ว +8

    We called those early Bentley’s a “boat” because they would just float down the road and you dare not drive them too aggressively. They were an elegant car.

  • @jharris947
    @jharris947 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    6:14...That Continental looks huge compared to the GT.😲The passenger space and the boot are so big it looks strange only having two doors...Excellent video.

  • @a.m.9357
    @a.m.9357 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Man, the old Conti is sooooooo quiet. Can't believe it's so old and still quieter than 95% of the cars made today -- including those comedians in Audi, BMW, Merc and Jaguar.

    • @wigs1098
      @wigs1098 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not really comedians, drive an older Rolls Royce or Bentley, really poor dynamics compared to the others. This matters if you are an owner driver as much as the ride and quietness does.

  • @sunnyc8900
    @sunnyc8900 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    A 2 door saloon vs a 2 door coupe.

  • @davidspropaganda
    @davidspropaganda ปีที่แล้ว +7

    LJK Setright wrote at length about the handles, door and boot opening weights and balances, all the buttons and push pulls, and how you had to be able to operate them easily with gloves regardless of strength, on an RR or Bentley after RR bought the company. These are lessons that have been lost. We have a newish 7 Series in the family and its often parked on a five degree slope and my mother can't push the heavy passenger door open. Someone has to come round and open it. On the flat she can but it's still heavy. The boot doesn't have the motor option and I have to put quite a bit of effort into pulling it down and I'm quite strong. She can't close it without a lot of effort. She could open or close the bonnet on a Silver Shadow with her little finger however.

    • @drd6416
      @drd6416 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Im glad someone paid homage to the musings of the legendary LJKS.
      His prose on such matters made for an informed and entertaining read indeed.... and as he was a fan of the motorists gloves when piloting fine automobiles, i can see the validity of those said musings too.

  • @stephenricketts7764
    @stephenricketts7764 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    A good comparison between old and 'new' (VW) I think. For me the Continental R is certainly more refined and graceful alongside your Bentley GT and I would have to choose that. However I think you made a valid point when you said the GT had to look different enough from Rolls Royce to be separate (I may have slightly paraphrased there).Interesting video Jack thank you. 👍👍

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this video. Had no idea of how much of an absolute unit the original car was. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

  • @markbrennan4693
    @markbrennan4693 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video. I bet W O. would probably approve of the more sporty GT, rather than the older softer car. Both cars are superb.

    • @joshuarosen6242
      @joshuarosen6242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with this. My first thought when I think Bentley is the Bentley Boys and racing. The Bentley Boys were jolly posh and well off but they wanted a sporty car and I’ve always thought that the sportiness is just as important as the luxury in a Bentley, unlike a Rolls Royce.

    • @sprezzatura8755
      @sprezzatura8755 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      W.O. would be disappointed to see so many Continental GTs on the road, driven by tacky people. He wanted his cars to be ultra-exclusive.

  • @martinhogg5337
    @martinhogg5337 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great comparison, Jack. Interesting to see how the old compares with the more recent.

  • @snd7622
    @snd7622 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The biggest difference is prestige : old Continental still has exclusive image when new ,, Bentley'' can be bought cheap and is plenty on the market.

  • @miamimo70
    @miamimo70 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Conti R/T is a real stunner, a gentlemans club inside, and a proper adult 4 seater. So very imposing, definitely in my dream garage

    • @sprezzatura8755
      @sprezzatura8755 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes indeed I agree. And I think the R/T will age better and get more lovingly restored as it is far more serviceable / rebuildable than the GT, which requires engine out for a number of relatively minor services.

  • @hoost3056
    @hoost3056 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The older Bentleys are the World's Fastest Trucks. New Bentleys are VWs with bodykits

  • @michaelhughes3302
    @michaelhughes3302 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The sweet spot between both cars, particularly in the looks department has got to be the Brooklands Coupe. All the presence of the Continental with the timeless style of a pillar less coupe. Jaw dropping!

    • @V1ctwrAr1stos
      @V1ctwrAr1stos 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very happy to be buying one next year

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts6530 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well, not that I could ever afford one, but if I could, I’d have the Continental R - looks to me like a tidied up and modernised Rolls Royce Camargue - a car that I like immensely (although it is a bit Marmite!) - I don’t know if that was intentional, but that’s what it conjures up!

  • @Dan_druft
    @Dan_druft ปีที่แล้ว +6

    £187000 in 1990 is about £544,000 in today's money

  • @ryanmccormick2150
    @ryanmccormick2150 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoyed that Jack.... As always buddy 👍

  • @ozrbfan
    @ozrbfan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bentley's in the independent days were a sporting car....while the Rolls Bentleys are very nice cruisers i think the more sporty character suits Bentleys original back ground.

  • @romanoguttadauro6116
    @romanoguttadauro6116 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jack, As a follower of your channel, I like your title of this video. As a 50 something year old guy originally from the UK I can remember when car companies were prestigious and the thought of ten blokes hand building a car with national pride actually appeals to me, unfortunately corporations got in the way of all that and as a result cars from around the early 2000's onward have all become clones of each other, lift the bonnet of any car and all you see is a plastic cover, yes I'm stuck in the past but cars just seemed to be more fun, we didn't need to go 300mph the feel the cars gave you through the seat of your pants and a driving experience of you and the car being one was it for me. As technology advances in cars some thing get better but I think we've lost a part of the sense and feel of driving . Just my 2 pence worth. love the channel Grazie Mille.

  • @k9killer221
    @k9killer221 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think you nailed it when you said "Is the modern Bentley more of a throwback to the 1930s Bentley idea". I don't believe Bentley is really competing with Rolls-Royce as like a slightly different brand during the '60s to 90s. They have diverged in terms of demographic.

  • @eze8970
    @eze8970 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks Jack, really shows the differences between the generations, & buyers. Continental wins for me as better quality inside with more dials/instruments! 🙏🙏

  • @jfv65
    @jfv65 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I associate the old conti with old money and the newer GT with bling flashing premier league football players.

    • @bmstylee
      @bmstylee ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree. But the new Bentley I see rappers and kingpins.

    • @aussiebloke609
      @aussiebloke609 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Old money vs nouveau riche.

    • @peterream9437
      @peterream9437 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stuff just moves on.....Has to happen. Be a boring place other wise...and we'd have nowt to moan about

    • @donnamcgeeonebane3009
      @donnamcgeeonebane3009 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nouveau riche

  • @SharpblueCreative
    @SharpblueCreative ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Continental is in another league where the interior is concerned. Not as mad produced? Love the look of it too. It is what I expect a Bentley to look like considering we are from the same era Jack. Great work.

  • @oscarsnr
    @oscarsnr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great comparison test. The ex-Sound Engineer in me couldn’t help but notice the early reflections in the newer car. I would choose the older car to record vocals in!

  • @davyboy888
    @davyboy888 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Good video Jack. OK, Bentley is a bit of an enigma. In pre-war times it was synonymous with very high performance cars. It was extremely successful in racing too in particular at Le Mans. From then until the VW acquisition I would argue that it lost it's DNA completely and as you said was ostensibly a rebadged Rolls Royce. Now the owner of a Rolls Royce - or any car of that stature - is not meant to be sat behind the wheel. They're meant to chauffeured. The review of one of these cars needs to be done from the back seat... which is why something like the Continental R here is a complete oxymoron. A wafty limousine with only space of a driver ??!!?? VW recognised that immediately and decided to reset the Bentley brand all the way back to the spirit of the 1920s/1930s... expensive drivers cars with a racing pedigree. They went back to LMP racing at LeMans and continued until recently producing GT3 cars - with the help of M-Sport. I'm no fan of VW nor of Bentleys new or old,... but I have to give them credit for completely nailing it and the sales success is evidence of that too.

  • @markmcgrath9098
    @markmcgrath9098 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jack!
    You’ve gotta find a Westfield SEight.
    Proper bonkers pommy motoring. Even more bonkers than then a TVR.
    I really enjoy the content you put out for us. Thank you.

  • @robertlloyd7493
    @robertlloyd7493 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great item Jack 👍

  • @whitsundaydreaming
    @whitsundaydreaming ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nothing compares to the older designs. I love the Conti. I also love the old RR Silver Shadows.

  • @milesborg9812
    @milesborg9812 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was a continental R in an underground carpark near where I worked for a while. The car is super long.

  • @e24mpwr
    @e24mpwr ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I get Jag/Lexus vibes from the newer car, where the Continental is more unique (and 'stately' vs. 'beautiful', which I'd be OK with ;) )

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Conti R sits too low in its front springs (common problem on all late SZ models!), but when put right, it changes its presence once more completely! I’ve done it on mine and it just looks “right” and stately again!

    • @Pete...NoNotThatOne
      @Pete...NoNotThatOne ปีที่แล้ว

      Harvey Bailey kit?

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Pete...NoNotThatOne : Not at all! You just need new springs! They are too weak for the weight of the car

    • @ChicagoItalian
      @ChicagoItalian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @I actually used the Continental springs on my Turbo R as I believe they are a bit more robust.

  • @johnscarsandstuff
    @johnscarsandstuff ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's easy to get into al sorts of arguments about what is a "real" Bentley? Is anything after Rolls-Royce took over really a Bentley? Is the Lagonda V12 the ultimate Bentley or the Aston Martin DB2, since W.O. Bentley designed the engines for both vehicles. That said, I've loved the Bentley Continental R ever since it was announced, the shape does have a hint of the best 1960s American two-door car bodies, but with a whole lot of British class. The interior is glorious. I'm not sure if the driving experience would be disappointing, but I loved the Rolls-Royce Silver Spirit, so I see no reason not to like the Continental R.
    The Continental GT is a victim of its own success. I can see where the shape harks back to the 1950s R-Type Continental, and it's pleasantly evocative without being retro. Unfortunately the car is too common, which makes it seem less special. It also suffers in my mind, because I don't like the Audi way of hanging the engine way out in front; even if the prospect of four-wheel drive is very appealing. I've always had misgivings about the W12 engine, since a V6 is only ever properly balanced when the angle between the cylinders is 180-degrees and I feared that two VR6s together would multiply, rather than cancel their respective vibrations. I remember driving a VW Phaeton (not the top, W12, model admittedly) and it wasn't a bad car but it was difficult to enjoy. There was something about the inconsistent way it would respond to control inputs, which made it feel as though it was never completely on your side.
    I'm sure the Continental GT is better in every measurable way than the Continental R, and yet I still want the older, objectively worse, one more.

  • @New_Jax_City
    @New_Jax_City ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel like your channel has taken a turn, content wise. And i like it these reviews and motoring your’re doing. Please keep it up. 🤘

  • @benofbrown
    @benofbrown ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I know it's easy to think the year 2000 was only two years ago, but the L series lasted from 1959 to 2020, so 61 years not 41 ;)
    I've not driven either of the Continentals but my Turbo R has the same engine and it really is incredibly smooth.
    That Continental seems to be from 1993, so it should have the 4 speed torque converter.
    There's just something magical about those big old Bentleys, I'm glad you're enjoying your GT but I'm going to stick with my Turbo R.

  • @jasoncaulkin9830
    @jasoncaulkin9830 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Continental R was my dream car, recent examples are fetching from £50,000 upwards in today’s market.

  • @peteb3091
    @peteb3091 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bull's-eye vents 5:00 😜
    Great videos Jack.

  • @lqr824
    @lqr824 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:29 "The Bentley GT was based on the VW Phaeton." FAKE NEWS. While they shared substantial amounts of hardware, it'd be more accurate, given production numbers, to say the Phaeton was based on the GT. The truth is even less odd: they both shared a lot of parts with the other VAG models, from the Polo on up.

  • @nigelbullock9039
    @nigelbullock9039 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jack. Another brilliant video produced and edited so well. Great choice of cars and I would love the GT if it didn't drink so much.

  • @timmzey_1985
    @timmzey_1985 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video. Fortunate enough to have both in the family. Was planning on doing a similar video myself. Great stuff

  • @jehl1963
    @jehl1963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My GOSH! The Continental is HUGE!!! The interior also looks much more "hand-made" while the GT definitely has signs of 21st century manufacturing engineering.

  • @arthurdardalis
    @arthurdardalis ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve worked on two Continental GT’s, a nightmare to work on, horrendously expensive parts even the one that have VW/AUDI/SEAT/SKODA labels all over them. Has the usual VW electrical issues and check engine light.
    On the plus, it’s really fast, one final thing, don’t let the batteries go down, nightmare to reset the car.

    • @drd6416
      @drd6416 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Its a 2 door phaeton, which was a nightmare too, and got worse tge bigger the spec or engine.
      If i were monied, id still go old school. Seems far more British, back when that meant something .

    • @arthurdardalis
      @arthurdardalis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@drd6416 Well said on all points

  • @rolfsvensson5777
    @rolfsvensson5777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Old vs new? The decline is every where! Old fashion is pretty soon a memory? Nice video!

  • @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X
    @X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 1990s Continenal is THE car to me. It just has it all.

  • @michaelmccann4706
    @michaelmccann4706 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No.27: Unique and interesting channel. Thank you.👍

  • @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13
    @C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That grille on the R... It just says "move over peasant" and I kinda love it for that. Even if I am a peasant.

  • @kevthedynamo
    @kevthedynamo ปีที่แล้ว

    My Brother-in-law worked at Bentley in Crewe for 2 years. He said the reason he left the company was that he was an engineer by trade, but they weren't interested in that and had him sand down wood facias!

  • @Mr57blackbeauty
    @Mr57blackbeauty ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think GT has changed in meaning over time. The Continental GT was a luxurious means of travelling across Europe with pace and comfort, but now GT seems to be more of a performance term, both nice cars, but if I was travelling from the soggy UK to my summer villa in Portofino, the old V8 would be my choice to waft me along in grace pace and style, btw how is the lotus then????? been a while

  • @Lot76CARS
    @Lot76CARS ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To be fair, Jack, if it was a choice between surviving by using parts from the VW parts bin it’s probably an acceptable compromise. Probably only the very expensive one off customer cars have the level of craftsmanship from the past.

  • @michaelpegasiou4531
    @michaelpegasiou4531 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The continental is the one I would want to sit in the back of and eat my caviar and crackers without spilling my champagne.The vw is the one I would want to drive.

  • @canucklehead0
    @canucklehead0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The 6 3/4L Rolls lump that migrated into the Bentley cars was just one of those great low stressed engines that in every way was "adequate" and when the Turbo was added became a legend in the up market car world. The W12 was the first Bentley I drove in a Continental GT which I thought then, as now that it was a slightly sedated monster of an engine just waiting for an excuse to eat petrol and hurtle the car down any road at high speed in optimum comfort. By comparison I didn't drive but was a passenger in a Bentley Turbo R and at speed on the highway it was as if you were gliding over ice with perfectly sharpened skates. It had more torque than was ever needed to pass other motorists and never made you feel like it lacked in any way. With the exception of the First Jaguar XKR with the 4.2L Supercharged engine, you always felt as though you had more power and obviously more elegance and luxury than anything else on the road. It was like comparing Apples to Caviar, Coca-Cola to Bollinger RD Champagne. I'm sure as an owner and someone who has driven multiple Bentley's you see my point. Now I'd love to see how the older and newer Bentley Brooklands would square up with each other!? Once again though Jack, a thoroughly enjoyable comparison and review!!

  • @edblair5253
    @edblair5253 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another gem of a video.
    JayEm. Take notes.

  • @marcel1463
    @marcel1463 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Both are good, but my favorite Bentley is the Arnage because it was the first i drive.

    • @bandwagon240
      @bandwagon240 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Arnage was a nightmare. Such a mismatch of parts, no wonder there were lawsuits.

  • @TheMRmadhatt
    @TheMRmadhatt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The L series engine in the continental was tested by sitting on a test bed at full throttle for 500 hours, No american engine got past 100 hours

  • @guinnessharvey4476
    @guinnessharvey4476 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That dash on the R is epic . Cliff face of wonder

  • @lukemallory7832
    @lukemallory7832 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember when the Continental R came out and, being about 10 years old, I thought it was the most magnificent thing. I've thought about blowing all my money and buying one but sadly I doubt I could afford to run it to the shops and that's before the repairs start mounting up..! But what a wonderful thing it is..

  • @derekstocker6661
    @derekstocker6661 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yet another great review, the Conti is a fabulous looking car from virtually all angles and is a real smooth ride with as always a great driving position.
    The W12 is a totally different beast with the power and speed of a fast tourer and not bad looking. Thanks or these as always, great cars in any case.

  • @James-cs2wi
    @James-cs2wi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video thanks 😊

  • @royfellows5468
    @royfellows5468 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another interesting video. RR and Bentley were indeed the same cars from the Silver Cloud 1, Bentley S1, up through the Shadows and T's until the introduction of the Silver Spirit in 1980 and its Bentley equivalents. This is when RR decided to create a special niche for Bentley by making them more sporting with turbo charging becoming a major part of the equation. The Spirit was targeted at the American market, hence its shape, something of a departure from the traditional flowing lines. This is reflected in the Continental R which is built on the same floor plan and reflects your comments. Graham Hulls designed later Silver Seraph and Arnage returned to more traditional lines. It may be a bit harsh of me to say so, but to a degree I see a trend of quality going down while price goes upward, with craftsmanship being superceeded by technology.

  • @mariopizzamanmario8563
    @mariopizzamanmario8563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The difference is mainly "old money vs new money". The cars show that in the most peculiar way.

  • @thewildybeast
    @thewildybeast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When all the controversy of Rolls Royce and Bentley happened when the German’s became their owners. I always saw it as them still being a British Mark, but which were now financed by the German’s. Something that was needed for them to retain their position’s in the world of motoring .

  • @pinkze
    @pinkze ปีที่แล้ว

    pinkze he say " wow I love your enthusiasm and will be watching a lot more, love your excitement of the Detomaso Pantera 🎉😂❤"

  • @jaimearmstrong5275
    @jaimearmstrong5275 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be interesting to see how the last variant of the Mulsanne stacks up as a proper Bentley in comparison, if you can get your hands one. Enjoy your reviews as always.

  • @philipingleby7242
    @philipingleby7242 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one of the later (1998) cars with the 420 hp engine. I think it’s one of the best looking 90s cars and I loved the luxury of the interior. Other cars are faster and handle better but there is a real presence on the road and sense of restrained power. Had to have my garage extended to accommodate her! Cost an arm and a leg to keep on the road though and I was plagued by warning lights that kept coming on. Wouldn’t rule out getting another though.

    • @ChicagoItalian
      @ChicagoItalian 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am on my 10th Turbo R - 1997 385 Horsepower and 569 ft. Lbs of torque…nothing rivals these cars when they are 100% - it’s like taxing down the runway in a 7x7….the power is always there…you never run out. Torque, torque and more TORQUE.

  • @richsackett3423
    @richsackett3423 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was struck by the similarity of the door slam note. They sounded identical to this very experienced musician.

    • @drd6416
      @drd6416 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would not be surprised if they had an acoustics department.... to ensure things as door slamming and windows slunded pretty much the same across the board.... to ensure that perception of quality is consistent.

    • @richsackett3423
      @richsackett3423 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@drd6416 I would. FWIW, it wasn't as good as any S-Class or particularly good at all. Both were about a B-. Don't think they are paying people for that result.

  • @MarcosCodas
    @MarcosCodas ปีที่แล้ว

    Top mounted camera looks nice!

  • @nicolasmolli
    @nicolasmolli ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ma préférence va à la Continental R. La Continental GT est une Volkswagen Phaeton avec une calandre chromée.

  • @lqr824
    @lqr824 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:30 the GT "roughens up past 4500, especially for a 12." It's not a V-12, it's two VR6's. It's four banks of 3 each. There's no reason in the world to expect that to be smooth.

    • @drd6416
      @drd6416 ปีที่แล้ว

      W12.

  • @nickhaag7803
    @nickhaag7803 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One is classy, one is naff. Guess which is which? All IMHO of course!

  • @wollaminfaetter
    @wollaminfaetter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A Bentley should not be "pretty". The Conti is so sexy I can't breathe

  • @colinhoward74
    @colinhoward74 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One test that trumps them all , having been around many different Bentleys , is slightly different to the opening and closing the door test , its the percieved assault on the senses , at the moment , a friend of mine in the motor trade has a 1936 Hooper Bentley , a 1967 Bentley T1 and a 2006 Bentley Continental Flying Spur , I am going to put more strength to my arguement and state that the Bentley Turbo R , the Arnage and Azure all have one quality the Conti Spur does not have , they all smell like a Bentley !

  • @Pico-hq7ws
    @Pico-hq7ws ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. Interesting that in the "stiffer" GT your seat back is flexing so much 14:40 onwards ?

  • @jamescoyle5618
    @jamescoyle5618 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You're not being fair.
    The genuine Bentley is supposed to be "sporty". You were using RR comparators of silence and smoothness.
    That's not what real Bentleys are about.
    They are meant to have sporting intent and come from sporting heritage

  • @UberLummox
    @UberLummox ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The styling on the newer one just looks goofy. More of a slap in the face to the original than a compliment imo. But we are in the dark ages of industrial design, so here we are.

  • @rodrigoantunes8502
    @rodrigoantunes8502 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the older benty is for me the dream "modern" car...

  • @stevenpike7530
    @stevenpike7530 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I prefer the shape of the ‘original’ (for want of a better term…Tyler Hoovie pit me off them with the appalling maintenance costs…(which may be less of an issue in the Old Dart with the provenance of British engineering)…In Aus=nightmare…Excellent review.

  • @terrymurphy2637
    @terrymurphy2637 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Jack .Really good comparison. Having driven Turbo RLs for 15 years I prefer the sedans drive to the Continental R but the Conty R is definitely prettier. Sorry but VW Bentley GT is a faster but definitely 60000 pound cheaper car. Maintenance on the older cars is expensive but if your VW Bentley has issues its wallet destroying !

  • @jamesrobert4106
    @jamesrobert4106 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2 majestic cars.

  • @paullyons1325
    @paullyons1325 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't we just love both models. The newer one has a nice feel, it is after all a Bentley. No, it does not matter who makes the window switches or even the frame. Calling it a VW is so insulting and laughable, its probably not polite to go there. Bentley and Rolls Royce are were the horseless carriage of royals and men of great means. Nice video overview with unique insights and highlights. I may just buy one now.

  • @highlandmalt6368
    @highlandmalt6368 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worth noting, the dash shape in the GT was taken from the Bentley Java concept car. The GT is, for me, the realisation of the Java concept - a cheaper car built it greater numbers, but still exclusive.

  • @oxfamshop
    @oxfamshop ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only my taste but the earlier car looks a lot better specially the front . The later cars looked like a huge pile of plastic . But then now the more money you pay the faster bigger lump of plastic you get

  • @mikeportjogger1
    @mikeportjogger1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The VW car seems to me to hark back more to what Bentley was before RR took them over.

  • @benmarshall787
    @benmarshall787 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great and fair video, you really should apply to go on Top Gear as a presenter so more folk can see you Jack!
    As a Ford man I don't like the VW platform sharing game , and having watched videos of Lambo Urus' with a plethora of parts badged Audi , and one of the US TH-camrs who had the saloon version of the GT getting Audi parts cheaper to fit, not to mention our very own Mat and his Lambo ashtray savings I would feel a little cheated. Obviously the older car will have parts , trim ,lights or switch gear from something or other I'm sure, look at the tvrs you've been highlighting recently, with fiesta lights etc. I think these manufacturers ought to at least put the brand badge a part is for , originally in them, as all these videos have shown though for money reasons they don't! Before someone says something I am aware the focus spawned the mazda 3 and the Volvo S40 et al, it's just not until now , that we've really noticed. Theres also the Ford tie up with VW which is sad for me, as each new car comes out they are less and less individual, for example, I'd like to see Ford Transits made in Southampton again for the British market , not Turkey because of cheap labour, etc etc. Anyway an interesting scenario, wouldn't it be great if your coupe was fitted with the 6.75 litre with just RWD I wonder if people have tried that? Also a couple of testing suggestions from me, try and find a lancia thema 2.0 turbo car to test as a follow up to the magnificent 8.32. And perhaps a PM limo special, Jag XJ12,Vs XJ40,Vs the last XJ, and maybe throw in a Rover P5b coupe and maybe even a nice but very underated 827sli or similar from the late 80s which were ministerial cars? Just some ideas, love the videos , still wanting to see Roco the dog again, which leads me on to Nobles at his house wasn't it? Best wishes, sorry for the length, Ben ,🇬🇧🇺🇦🚐🚌

  • @my1vice
    @my1vice ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But isn't that Continental just a Camargue?

  • @DrJRaven
    @DrJRaven 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The new Bentleys are good cars, but they are not a true Bentleys.

  • @tigermoth66
    @tigermoth66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d say it was more the footballers and bling merchants that sullied the Bentley brand, rather than Volkswagen per se.

  • @Hvitserk67
    @Hvitserk67 ปีที่แล้ว

    A nice video. Another comparison that would have been quite interesting in this context is the Bentley Continental R vs a late and thus roughly contemporaneous Mercedes-Benz W126 560SEC. I think this is more about two different philosophies in the same spirit, but that they both really excel in their own way. The W126 560SEC is usually nowadays compared to the Porsche 928 GTS, but this is completely wrong in my opinion. Yes, they're both German and they're both at home on the Autobahn, but the W126 560SEC actually looks more like a German attempt to match the Continental R before VAG bought Bentley and developed the GT.

  • @shanehnorman
    @shanehnorman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The Continental R is one of my hero cars. A wide-body version, with little grilles behind the front wheel-arches, used to live on my street and I could never walk by without stopping to gawp and drool. Surprised Jack doesn't comment on the Italianate quality of its styling, especially the roof-line.

  • @BeaglefreilaufKalkar
    @BeaglefreilaufKalkar ปีที่แล้ว

    Dwelling on RR or Bentley and its "Ride" I am reminded of the American car journalist PJ O'Rourke, who said: It's like my mothers Buick

  • @markdoyle6414
    @markdoyle6414 ปีที่แล้ว

    When did you film this? I would love if you had a different backdrop than the building site fence, nothing against building site fences but I get distracted by it. Absolutely love your videos.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Mark, the fence is not a great backdrop I agree but the light at this time of day meant it was the only option. Unfortunately in this location most of the time the light shines the wrong way.. there lovely contraire the other way.

    • @Number27
      @Number27  ปีที่แล้ว

      Countryside not contraire!!

  • @trwsandford
    @trwsandford ปีที่แล้ว

    I love them both! That's my jam!
    debating whether the new awesome car can still be called by the same name as the last awesome car... Its just a love fest.

  • @archiegoodwinjr
    @archiegoodwinjr ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this thoughtful episode-part review and part contemplation. By the time VW and BMW bought their UK marques everyone had learned the importance of maintaining brand ID. VW worked hard to reinterpret the Bentley while RRB did not comprehend that when designing the earlier Continental. Do you recall that RRB-made 1950s-60s Continentals looked like “sporty” variants of standard saloons, but specialists such as Park Ward were allowed to stray-Chinese eyes, this monstrosity, and the Azure. I think that is why you are able to spot more similarities between the GT and older Bentleys. I think BMW’s RR is turned out to be more RR than even RRB’s own update (such as the rather meek looking Silver Shadow). As good as VW’s Bentley has been, I think BMW’s Mini was a more brilliant remake. This episode makes me sorry to consider other brands that have not been as carefully nurtured-including Maserati, Alfa Romeo, MG, and especially Jaguar.

  • @KathiJordan
    @KathiJordan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Continental R, not close for me.

  • @10secondsrule
    @10secondsrule ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I alway like watching your car. If it wasn’t so expensive to run and service it would be a car I’d like to own as it looks stunning. But in current and near future times there’s simply no justification for gas guzzlers anymore I believe.