One thing I didn't want to mention in the video, because it was kind of off-topic: The release of the Remarkable Paper Pro with an E-Ink Gallery 3 screen makes it much more likely we'll see a Kindle Color with that same tech soon. I suspect they have fixed the issues they had last year and in the E-Ink Holdings investors report they mentioned an 8 inch screen/device with an improved Gallery 3 screen. So that might be the Kindle Oasis successor with colors.
Selling point of the Remarkable has always been the, "real paper" feel. Writing on a Remarkable is almost like writing on real paper. It is amazing. The experience on Kindle, Samsung and Microsoft doesn't even come close. In fact, the Microsoft pen experience is so bad it is a joke. That is too bad because Microsoft OneNote is the best note taking software on the market. I would spend $1,000 on a Remarkable Paper Pro in a second if they could make it work with OneNote.
Will you give us future updates on this matter? I am at the moment thinking of getting an color e-reader. But when a new and strongly improved generation comes out, maybe even a kindle oasis color, I should be waiting. Thx for all your videos, I fall into a deep rabbit hole through your content about e-readers :)
The Specs, and Voija's hands-on experience at the Remarkable headquarters in Oslo, look incredible and make the device very appealing. BUT: will users be able to work offline and save their work to a USB-C flash drive? THOSE are the make-or-break questions. Many people work with highly confidential files that cannot be offloaded into the cloud, hence the concerns with working offline completely. In terms of the hardware, this new Remarkable Paper Pro is unbeatable.
When the remarkable 2 came out and the software was lacking a ton of writing and gesture features I downloaded a jailbroken version of the OS on GitHub and and uploaded it to the device via ssh. It’s just a Linux based device so anything is technically possible for offloading files other than through WiFi or the cloud.
You can access a web interface after connecting the tablet to a PC(or maybe even a phone). This lets you save PDFs as well as native .rmdoc notebook files to save the strokes. So yes, you can definitely use it without ever setting up the Cloud service
I honestly can’t tell the difference between 229ppi and 300ppi - even side by side. I think they hit the sweet-spot and everything else is just a numbers game…
I’ve got kindle scribe on Black Friday for 280€ and I like it pretty much.. if kindle comes with smthing in color, that in 2-3 years I will buy it, on Black Friday, I am waiting for it with light in screen and with 300 pp😁
For PDFs I generally recommend Boox devices, because they have the best viewing modes. But the Kindle scribe is also pretty good IF you're willing to send the PDF files through the Amazon servers to convert them for handwriting. Because the Scribe has one of the best palm rejection implementations imho.
I am unlikely to purchase this. It would not meet my particular needs, and the price is definitly a hurdle. I might be more likely to pursue it if it accommodated third party apps, like Boox products do. That said, I find it exciting to see E-ink technology improving so rapidly and I look forward to your full review! Thanks.
Looking at the specs, its underpowered and does very little. Would have been better if it was at least android. Seen a review, while the colours are great, but let down by not much use for everyday use, as it has no web browser, clock, and limited apps. And for what you get expensive. They should have made it an e reader
@MarcelloBranca extremely limited and costly for what your getting. Would have made more sense if they launched an e reader instead, but the tech is showing great promise
No - check out my full review, I have a couple of side-by-side comparisons with the Boox Note Air 3C (same tech as Boox Tab Ultra C Pro) in there: th-cam.com/video/VPa3jiKTWvk/w-d-xo.html
I'm kind of glad that I picked up the RM2 for 350 euro back then, since they increased the pricing straight up to 450 euros just because they include their own Marker by default now, even though it was priced separately around 70 euros. That and the sudden change to the active pen of the Paper Pro feel like desperate attempts to force their own pens on the user while trying to undermine third party pens, which is a problem because all they offer is just these ergonomically very basic and thin markers. Completely unappealing to me.
Changing to active pen is because of the colors on the screen. The screen is a custom stack of layers to achive they standards about suberb whriting experience. You can try any cheap active pen from third party. If it is not working, that is not because they desperately want you to buy thier own, but because they are simply not compatible with thier custom screen. 🤷🏼♂️
@@Tyraendiel okay but who cares what their intentions are (it's clearly $$$ by being utterly lazy). My main problems are that there's huge feature disparity to third party pens now (if they can even work at all), since those don't have the same charging capabilities and they don't have a freaking selection of pens even though they just cannibalized the choice of those who don't like their basic ass markers.
I think the 229 ppi isn't a huge deal, but obviously higher would have been better. But yes, the price is kinda crazy. I paid 850 Euros for the tablet, with the marker plus and the cover. Even though I got it for reviewing it here on the channel, it wasn't an easy buy with that price ...
@@ChalidRaqami Don't get me wrong, I can see where they are going with the new colour screen. It's very interesting and exciting tech, but 850 Euros is $1415 AUD. For me that's a new 2024 iPad Air, an after-market keyboard case (a good one), and the new Apple pencil. I'm by no means an apple fan-boy, they have their own many flaws, but when you look at this product in it's most basic form, it is just a 'note taker.' The price is so absolutely ludicrous for what it actually does. Here's hoping they eventually lower the price, even $600 AUD I could swallow reluctantly, but nothing higher than that.
@@Krade289 If you're just taking notes, an iPad Air is probably better since it's also a media consumption device. That's however also its downside. If you're into writing, you will want to prioritize things that add to that experience, as well as prioritize removing things that detracts from that experience. Both of which the reMarkable is leaps better than any iPad. So it depends on what you want. I say the price is quite justifiable, but it's also a niche'd product.
I hope Boox doesn’t come out with anything superior because I ordered one. So expensive with no google play store and low specs. If Boox has something comparable within the trial period mine is going back.
It's possible, but I doubt it tbh. Remarkable moved so many units in the past 4 years, that they most likely have some exclusive arrangement with E-Ink. Same as Amazon had with the 300 ppi E-Ink Carta screens. I suspect we'll see some 8 inch E-Ink Gallery 3 devices in 2024/2025 (Kindle Color), but no other 10 or 11 inch devices with that screen technology for at least a year. That's my guess at least ... ;)
@@MarcelloBrancaIn terms of screen there are pros and cons to both. The Kaleido 3 screens on Boox devices have half the resolution for colour images and the colours are more washed out but the Gallery 3 on the Remarkable has a much slower full screen refresh and is more expensive. In terms of features, obviously Android wins hands down.
Game changing would be price point of $299 basic RM Pro and $399 Pro with upgraded pen and folio. The feature & performance to price ratio is not on par with a used Ipad with a paper-like cover.
An LCD will always be cheaper, but IF the Remarkable Paper Pro's display is as paperlike and as responsive as regular B&W E-Ink, it'll change the landscape of the E-Ink market within a few years. So in my book (hehe) that's a game-changer - even if value for money might not be the best.
Interesting, but definitely not for me. Sure a high quality color display would be nice to have, but the weight and thickness are not worth it (for me). Most of my note taking is black and white anyway. Curious to see what battery life will be like.
@@peaelle42 Because eInk is not like an Ipad screen. It has to do with how eInk refreshes the pixels. All eInk have this. It is part of how they all works.
@@DamienLavizzo missing the point again. Just having apps on the device is the distraction. Also, you have to charge an iPad every single day. Paper tablets last weeks to months on a single charge. Additionally I don’t know if you’ve actually tried it, but writing on an iPad sucks. It’s not a paper like experience.
@@JordanStambaugh1 I write on an iPad every day both personally and professionally. Again, if the device works for you and your workflow, great. But not admitting that it’s severely limited for the price is just nutty.
@@DamienLavizzo depends what’s important to you. It’s not limited in/its strengths are: Battery life Productivity / focus Reading / eye strain Paper like feel
I still believe Gallery 3 is dead. But there is hope and (de)light: Hannspree's new Android14-based frontlit 10" and 7.8" RLCDs were just born at IFA2024.🙏
I don't use that word lightly, but E-Ink Gallery 3 with colored particles, in a device that will most likely sell in the hundreds of thousands, is definitely a game-changer for the E-Ink market. I'm pretty certain, it's the first device of many more to come in the next few years, slowly phasing out B&W E-Ink and E-Ink Kaleido over time.
yeah, what device can't run Doom nowadays? 😂 My toaster can. Jokes aside, I've looked at the documentation now. There is a developer mode. It's a Linux OS. If one puts in the time, one can do things. So it's not "closed" as such. You guys are right, my wording was incorrect. However, by default, for average users, it is still very limited by design. You can't even open .cbz fiIes out of the box. I don't like THAT approach and I don't want to spend hours on Github to get a few additional features I need. YMMV. 😊
It's a game-changer because for the first time it brings colored E-Ink particles to the mainstream end-consumer market (I don't count the Bigme Galy, as it was a nice product that had a few issues). I have no doubt that this will change the trajectory of the E-Ink market as a whole and we'll see a lot more devices with that ACeP (Gallery) screen tech in the coming years.
I don't get the point of devices like this and the Boox Note Air 3c. They seem to be creeping closer and closer to being like an iPad or a Surface Pro but they are miles behind the latter two in terms of screen quality, vibrancy, contrast and use of wireless stylus pens If someone wants a better and more colourful screen, they should get an iPad. If they want a great pure-reading experience, get a Kindle or Kobo, which focus on the reading experience.
Yea, but it has the best, "pen to paper feel" on the market. Kindle, Samsung and Microsoft don't even come close. If you are in engineering or medical school this point is the most important.
Too late? They are literally the first company to technologically achieve vibrant colours + light and with even thinner pen-to-ink distance. I agree it's expensive af, but that device has literally no competition.
One thing I didn't want to mention in the video, because it was kind of off-topic: The release of the Remarkable Paper Pro with an E-Ink Gallery 3 screen makes it much more likely we'll see a Kindle Color with that same tech soon. I suspect they have fixed the issues they had last year and in the E-Ink Holdings investors report they mentioned an 8 inch screen/device with an improved Gallery 3 screen. So that might be the Kindle Oasis successor with colors.
Selling point of the Remarkable has always been the, "real paper" feel. Writing on a Remarkable is almost like writing on real paper. It is amazing. The experience on Kindle, Samsung and Microsoft doesn't even come close. In fact, the Microsoft pen experience is so bad it is a joke. That is too bad because Microsoft OneNote is the best note taking software on the market. I would spend $1,000 on a Remarkable Paper Pro in a second if they could make it work with OneNote.
This was my first thought -- and Android tablets, too!
Will you give us future updates on this matter? I am at the moment thinking of getting an color e-reader. But when a new and strongly improved generation comes out, maybe even a kindle oasis color, I should be waiting.
Thx for all your videos, I fall into a deep rabbit hole through your content about e-readers :)
The Specs, and Voija's hands-on experience at the Remarkable headquarters in Oslo, look incredible and make the device very appealing. BUT: will users be able to work offline and save their work to a USB-C flash drive? THOSE are the make-or-break questions. Many people work with highly confidential files that cannot be offloaded into the cloud, hence the concerns with working offline completely. In terms of the hardware, this new Remarkable Paper Pro is unbeatable.
When the remarkable 2 came out and the software was lacking a ton of writing and gesture features I downloaded a jailbroken version of the OS on GitHub and and uploaded it to the device via ssh.
It’s just a Linux based device so anything is technically possible for offloading files other than through WiFi or the cloud.
You can access a web interface after connecting the tablet to a PC(or maybe even a phone). This lets you save PDFs as well as native .rmdoc notebook files to save the strokes. So yes, you can definitely use it without ever setting up the Cloud service
I honestly can’t tell the difference between 229ppi and 300ppi - even side by side. I think they hit the sweet-spot and everything else is just a numbers game…
I’ve got kindle scribe on Black Friday for 280€ and I like it pretty much.. if kindle comes with smthing in color, that in 2-3 years I will buy it, on Black Friday, I am waiting for it with light in screen and with 300 pp😁
Curious if my main use case is to read pdf documents (e g. annual reports, 10k-s, research documents) and e-books, what is the best device? Thanks.
For PDFs I generally recommend Boox devices, because they have the best viewing modes. But the Kindle scribe is also pretty good IF you're willing to send the PDF files through the Amazon servers to convert them for handwriting. Because the Scribe has one of the best palm rejection implementations imho.
I so wish I needed one of these!
I am unlikely to purchase this. It would not meet my particular needs, and the price is definitly a hurdle. I might be more likely to pursue it if it accommodated third party apps, like Boox products do. That said, I find it exciting to see E-ink technology improving so rapidly and I look forward to your full review! Thanks.
Ah man, I just ordered the Boox Air 3c! At least I saved some money.
Looking at the specs, its underpowered and does very little. Would have been better if it was at least android. Seen a review, while the colours are great, but let down by not much use for everyday use, as it has no web browser, clock, and limited apps. And for what you get expensive. They should have made it an e reader
@@dennisrogers6786 its not meant to be a full tablet its main slogan is no apps no social media just plain note taking
@@dennisrogers6786 Clearly you have expectations that do not fit with this device's philosophy. There are other devices in the market for you.
It's the better device anyway😊
@MarcelloBranca extremely limited and costly for what your getting. Would have made more sense if they launched an e reader instead, but the tech is showing great promise
Tiene la misma pantalla que la boox ultra c pro ? Me refiero a en cuanto al color ..?
No - check out my full review, I have a couple of side-by-side comparisons with the Boox Note Air 3C (same tech as Boox Tab Ultra C Pro) in there: th-cam.com/video/VPa3jiKTWvk/w-d-xo.html
Does it have native epub or mobi support?
Nope.
I'm kind of glad that I picked up the RM2 for 350 euro back then, since they increased the pricing straight up to 450 euros just because they include their own Marker by default now, even though it was priced separately around 70 euros. That and the sudden change to the active pen of the Paper Pro feel like desperate attempts to force their own pens on the user while trying to undermine third party pens, which is a problem because all they offer is just these ergonomically very basic and thin markers. Completely unappealing to me.
Changing to active pen is because of the colors on the screen. The screen is a custom stack of layers to achive they standards about suberb whriting experience. You can try any cheap active pen from third party. If it is not working, that is not because they desperately want you to buy thier own, but because they are simply not compatible with thier custom screen. 🤷🏼♂️
@@Tyraendiel okay but who cares what their intentions are (it's clearly $$$ by being utterly lazy). My main problems are that there's huge feature disparity to third party pens now (if they can even work at all), since those don't have the same charging capabilities and they don't have a freaking selection of pens even though they just cannibalized the choice of those who don't like their basic ass markers.
$929 AUD for a note-taking tablet...what were reMarkable smoking!? 229 PPI as well... wow. The new iPad air is $999 AUD. What absolute clowns!
I think the 229 ppi isn't a huge deal, but obviously higher would have been better.
But yes, the price is kinda crazy. I paid 850 Euros for the tablet, with the marker plus and the cover. Even though I got it for reviewing it here on the channel, it wasn't an easy buy with that price ...
@@ChalidRaqami Don't get me wrong, I can see where they are going with the new colour screen. It's very interesting and exciting tech, but 850 Euros is $1415 AUD. For me that's a new 2024 iPad Air, an after-market keyboard case (a good one), and the new Apple pencil. I'm by no means an apple fan-boy, they have their own many flaws, but when you look at this product in it's most basic form, it is just a 'note taker.' The price is so absolutely ludicrous for what it actually does. Here's hoping they eventually lower the price, even $600 AUD I could swallow reluctantly, but nothing higher than that.
@@Krade289 If you're just taking notes, an iPad Air is probably better since it's also a media consumption device. That's however also its downside. If you're into writing, you will want to prioritize things that add to that experience, as well as prioritize removing things that detracts from that experience. Both of which the reMarkable is leaps better than any iPad. So it depends on what you want. I say the price is quite justifiable, but it's also a niche'd product.
We need a paper pro but in boox style
academicreviewpro AI fixes this. Remarkable Paper Pro with colors.
I hope Boox doesn’t come out with anything superior because I ordered one. So expensive with no google play store and low specs. If Boox has something comparable within the trial period mine is going back.
It's possible, but I doubt it tbh. Remarkable moved so many units in the past 4 years, that they most likely have some exclusive arrangement with E-Ink. Same as Amazon had with the 300 ppi E-Ink Carta screens.
I suspect we'll see some 8 inch E-Ink Gallery 3 devices in 2024/2025 (Kindle Color), but no other 10 or 11 inch devices with that screen technology for at least a year. That's my guess at least ... ;)
Boox already has plenty devices superior to this new remarkable at a lower price tag also
@@MarcelloBrancaIn terms of screen there are pros and cons to both. The Kaleido 3 screens on Boox devices have half the resolution for colour images and the colours are more washed out but the Gallery 3 on the Remarkable has a much slower full screen refresh and is more expensive. In terms of features, obviously Android wins hands down.
Remarkable has never claimed to nor will be a device with apps. It's a paper replacment
For me it's too expensive and big. Looking for this but 8" and native epub support (it now converts epub to pdf" or Android.
will wait for a couple of years for the asian manufacturers to make a cheaper and lighter version. and with a pen that doesn't require charging.
Doesn’t have Searchable text?
It’s a shame they didn’t invite you like others and left you behind in your office with the old model😂
Maybe next time ... ;-)
Game changing would be price point of $299 basic RM Pro and $399 Pro with upgraded pen and folio. The feature & performance to price ratio is not on par with a used Ipad with a paper-like cover.
An LCD will always be cheaper, but IF the Remarkable Paper Pro's display is as paperlike and as responsive as regular B&W E-Ink, it'll change the landscape of the E-Ink market within a few years. So in my book (hehe) that's a game-changer - even if value for money might not be the best.
Interesting, but definitely not for me. Sure a high quality color display would be nice to have, but the weight and thickness are not worth it (for me). Most of my note taking is black and white anyway. Curious to see what battery life will be like.
Cant wait to use a display that flashes like crazy 😵💫
At least this one flashes even faster! 12 to 50ms instead of 500 to 3000ms
i don't get it. why will the display flash?
@@peaelle42 Because eInk is not like an Ipad screen. It has to do with how eInk refreshes the pixels. All eInk have this. It is part of how they all works.
If I want a closed ecosystem device to write on with a color display...I'll just get an ipad.
You’re completely missing the point of a no distractions productivity focused paper tablet.
@@JordanStambaugh1 For that price, I’ll just turn on Do Not Disturb. Seriously if you’re that distractible, maybe the problem isn’t the tablet.
@@DamienLavizzo missing the point again. Just having apps on the device is the distraction. Also, you have to charge an iPad every single day. Paper tablets last weeks to months on a single charge. Additionally I don’t know if you’ve actually tried it, but writing on an iPad sucks. It’s not a paper like experience.
@@JordanStambaugh1 I write on an iPad every day both personally and professionally.
Again, if the device works for you and your workflow, great. But not admitting that it’s severely limited for the price is just nutty.
@@DamienLavizzo depends what’s important to you. It’s not limited in/its strengths are:
Battery life
Productivity / focus
Reading / eye strain
Paper like feel
I still believe Gallery 3 is dead. But there is hope and (de)light: Hannspree's new Android14-based frontlit 10" and 7.8" RLCDs were just born at IFA2024.🙏
Way too big and the price is insane. Besides the screen, which does look incredible, it's got nothing going for it.
Way too expensive! I wished the price was under $400
😂😂😂 nah
300 ppi?
No, 229 ppi.
You know a device does not support web browsers when it only has 2GB ram
Still no One Note support?
Please influencers ... stop saying everything is a gamechanger. Or stop using the term gamechanger at all.
I don't use that word lightly, but E-Ink Gallery 3 with colored particles, in a device that will most likely sell in the hundreds of thousands, is definitely a game-changer for the E-Ink market. I'm pretty certain, it's the first device of many more to come in the next few years, slowly phasing out B&W E-Ink and E-Ink Kaleido over time.
Looks awesome but I just hate the closed ecosystem... and the sect-like, Apple inspired launch video lol
But it's open source 😂
It’s not closed, rm2 literally runs Doom
yeah, what device can't run Doom nowadays? 😂 My toaster can.
Jokes aside, I've looked at the documentation now. There is a developer mode. It's a Linux OS. If one puts in the time, one can do things. So it's not "closed" as such. You guys are right, my wording was incorrect.
However, by default, for average users, it is still very limited by design. You can't even open .cbz fiIes out of the box. I don't like THAT approach and I don't want to spend hours on Github to get a few additional features I need. YMMV. 😊
Just waiting for boox to replicate this
Ex apple employees, i think
How is this a game changer c'mon, they should at least have made it a 300dpi screen, it's underwhelming but at least on purpose
It's a game-changer because for the first time it brings colored E-Ink particles to the mainstream end-consumer market (I don't count the Bigme Galy, as it was a nice product that had a few issues).
I have no doubt that this will change the trajectory of the E-Ink market as a whole and we'll see a lot more devices with that ACeP (Gallery) screen tech in the coming years.
I can't digest the price tag and the fact it has no 300dpi 😅
I don't get the point of devices like this and the Boox Note Air 3c. They seem to be creeping closer and closer to being like an iPad or a Surface Pro but they are miles behind the latter two in terms of screen quality, vibrancy, contrast and use of wireless stylus pens If someone wants a better and more colourful screen, they should get an iPad. If they want a great pure-reading experience, get a Kindle or Kobo, which focus on the reading experience.
It is a paper replacement
Too slow, too late & way too expensive.
Yea, but it has the best, "pen to paper feel" on the market. Kindle, Samsung and Microsoft don't even come close. If you are in engineering or medical school this point is the most important.
Too slow?
@@bluephoenix8470 plenty of other ereaders and note taking devices out there. Boox being one. Remarkable lost its spot some time ago.
Can't argue wth the latter, but considering the novel technology it brings that has to be paid for, maybe not so much. The first is just not true.
Too late? They are literally the first company to technologically achieve vibrant colours + light and with even thinner pen-to-ink distance. I agree it's expensive af, but that device has literally no competition.