Exactly. Other flat earthers make me wanna smack myself in the face. Nathan Oakley makes me wanna smack HIM in the face. "Don't raise your voice, improve your argument".
That's the rhetorical trick. Oakley does it well. He asks the question to sound reasonable. Then he waits for the response, and then he cuts them off sounding smarmy and superior. That way the audience thinks he must have a clever point. Uuuugh. Some of these cult leaders would just talk incessantly. Non-stop, no pause. The pause and allowing for a response (that you'll interrupt) gives a very important effect. It gives the semblance like its an actual conversation.
Flerfer: " _Look at all these boats! Miles away on the horizon line!_ " Smart people: " _You're standing on a hill. Put the camera at water level._ " Flerfer: " _But then the camera can't see them.._ " Smart people: " _Yup._ "
That argument can at best assume that the Earth is bigger than 'we were told'. But still there's no doubt you can't see stuff beyond the curve no matter how high you go.
If he did this from the top of a cliff, he could see with the naked eye that the horizon dips below eye level with nothing more than a spirit level. We know the infamous black swan rig had half its pillars hidden - its hard to tell with this one without more info.
He could get a free app on his phone & get all the details of those ships including their distance from his position. He probably knows that but wouldn't want facts to get in the way of his flat earth evidence.
Nathan Oakley deliberately kept interrupting the scientist because he knew that if he let him finish his sentence it would make more sense than the bs he was trying to push
And selective mute (by volume control). You can see Rumpus' icon lighting up as he tries to speak, but you can't hear him. He never gets to finish his sentence.
Look, my fingers are sometimes transparent because I can see right through them at times when I put my hand in front of my face! (Your eyes lie to you a lot of times).
@@YegaSRT when I first discovered this...movement, I was trying to genuinely convince flat earthers they're wrong. I quickly realized it's pointless, so now I just laugh at them and move on.
Daniel Pratt is my favorite flerf. he's such an angry little man. he speaks with such conviction and he really believes he knows anything about physics. it's hilarious. 😆
Worst kind of interviewer. Get half of a point from a guest. Stop listening. Repeat that "half of a point" over and over until the guest hangs up. Claim victory.
@@nagranoth_ he gets so mad you can tell he wants to fist fight you in the parking lot because he thinks you're wrong about the shape of the earth. 😂😂😂😂
Those are mobile semi submersible rigs, which do look like that. Without knowing their dimensions and how high they are riding, you can't really tell how much of the 'legs' are over the horizon.
"Your eyes do not lie.." One of the stupidest things a person could say. Eyes absolutely do lie - more accurately it's extremely easy to trick human visual perception. Dean clearly hasn't heard of optical illusions.
He probably worships David Blaine as a god. The problem with the world is that intelligent people are full of doubt while the dumb ones are confident in their own bs
To be fair, your eyes do not lie, your brain (like a flerfer) fills in the gaps of visual information with what it assumes is the right answer. So while your eyes are incapable of lying to you, your brain makes a convincing argument for what 'should' be there. Just a shame flerf arguments aren't convincing since we have the facts that disprove them.
@@jollybodger it depends on your eyes to a degree eg colour blindness is caused by an inherited genetic fault rather than the brain. I’m colour blind and find certain very similar shades of green and brown can be hard to differentiate between
Flat earthers are magicians prime targets and their main bankroll. Ever notice how your stupidest friends are also the ones that would share those videos of that one guy who would do the worst magic tricks on Facebook that were so easy to see right through, like the one where he puts 5 cards on screen, and says in 5 seconds ONLY your card will disappear, and he then shows 4 cards on the screen to make it seem like it was your card that he removed, but all 4 cards are actually different so obviously yours was removed lol and the guy was so arrogant but only had the worst zero effort zero talent magic tricks... yeah only the morons would share those videos, and they’re the same ones who fall for all the obviously fake conspiracy links and everything so dumb or fake that 12 people explain in the comments how and why it’s fake in the first 10 seconds and they’re like “ohhhh” but I mean how are you that dumb to fall for it... and yeah the dumbest of the dumb of those people are the flat earthers, they’re the ones who you can explain how a magic trick works or how something is fake down to the exact tiny detail and they’re still like “idk I still think it’s real” or something dumb like that where you’re amazed they’re even alive if they’re that stupid. Lol yeah those are the flat earthers
“Your eyes don’t lie to you.” *Shows a picture of half a ship that’s covered by the curvature with refraction taken into account* “That just looks like it’s disappearing over a curve! It’s just your eyes playin tricks on you! All that is, is just perspective!” You couldn’t make that up folks.
Mythbusters did a wonderful segment about the conservation of momentum. They tested the age-old question of what would happen if you were on a train going the speed of a bullet and then shot a bullet backwards. They tested it by making an air cannon that they put on the back of a truck, loaded with a ball and then matched the cannon's muzzle velocity with the vehicle, shooting the ball backwards at the same speed the truck was going forwards. The ball dropped straight down, as it was carried forward by the car and backward by the cannon at the exact same speed.
Nathan Oakley is an enormous knob with a tiny knob, yelling at everyone to compensate that fact and trying to sound like he is the definitive authority on the shape of the earth who nobody can refute.
I wish someone would hook him up to a couple of weather balloons and let him go see the truth for himself - reminding him to take a few deep breaths on the way up... cos he won't be taking any on the way down.
Nathan Oakley is a poor example of Poe's law. He is trolling the globe-denying oxygen thieves for cash, but he keeps mistakingly crossing the line that exposes him, so he has to double down else he blows his cover. Thank you Nathan Oakley, for showing the earth isn't flat
@@marks-0-0 the next time he screams about having his balls in someone's mouth, I hope that said someone says, "no, I don't have your balls yet, Quantum Eraser hasn't sent them in the post yet. He isn't finished using them as a lollipop"
"Watch me prove the earth doesn't spin by citing pendulums!" Fun Trivia: Foucault's Pendulum was the first experiment to provide hard proof that the Earth did rotate. Dan showed a replica in this video. That giant ball swinging and slowly rotating as it does. Flerfs *despise* learning about this experiment. Fun fact, Foucault wasn't a trained scientist, but a doctor by trade. He found he disliked medicine and became an inventor and experimenter!
"your eyes do not lie" - conveniently ignoring the fact that the islands all appear to be floating in the sky above the horizon, not on it. And also that seeing the top of oil rigs but not the base in the sea isn't exactly the win he thinks it is XD
Hi Dan. The two oil rigs are offshore from the Bifarb construction yard at Methil, on the Fife coast, and are most certainly not miles apart. Rigs are often found in this location after construction, during refurbishment, or being stored due to a downturn in production. They are certainly not operational if that's what Dean is trying to suggest. There is no oil in the Firth of Forth. The "mountains" Dean alludes to are in fact the Lammermuir Hills, in East Lothian, and not one of them comes anywhere near qualifying as a mountain. And strangely enough, in Dean's video you can't make out the towns of Port Seton, Cockenzie, and Prestonpans, which stretch along the East Lothian coast, making almost a continual line of buildings. Indeed, you can't even make out the town of Tranent, about 2 miles south of the coast and on a higher elevation. I see Dean must have read my previous comments, and for once has included the Isle of May, right at the mouth of the Firth of Forth. Unfortunately for Dean, the image of it has a great deal of refraction, which is why it appears to be floating above the water.
My insides rage whenever flat earthers use thermodynamics concepts in classical mechanics... There's literally no such thing as an open/closed system in classical mechanics lol.
I saw that documentary. The train continuously moving. They said if it ever stopped everyone would die. I'm not sure how they covered the Earth with snow while filming. Must have been CGI
@@stevethecatcouch6532 That or they were home schooled and their parents let them cheat on tests. Or they went to a high school like I did where the *teachers* let the students cheat on tests. They have a monetary incentive to not fail too many. Satsuma High School just passed students. Illiterate, uneducated students.
@@stevethecatcouch6532 That school was utterly traumatizing when I moved there from a real school system. Imagine the worst possible parody of Alabama. It was that. And worse.
My favourite is the very first ship he shows doesn't have the distinctive bulge at the base of the prow of the other ones, perhaps because that part of the hull is below the horizon. I grant you that perhaps that particular ship has a different hull design to the others in the video, but it's not like my assumption of similar hull designs of similar ships is any less spurious than his random rangefinding.
God I am amazed that anybody is honoring Nathan Oakley with their presence after all these years. Stop going to his show people, let him preach to the choir.
Norway? No of Lions - 0. No of Tigers - 0. Main Export - Tree. More like Snoreway! (and if you get this reference you are truly an Internet Veteran - an Intereteran, if you will.)
There is no way to have any type of productive discussion with a weirdo like this. This is why Nathan has no friends. None. Even flat earthers avoid him.
I remember looking out from my house in Wisconsin and seeing Norway just a little bit to the Northeast. Scary place. Lots of trolls. Would not recommend.
I'm 'gad' I can at least spell understandable words... so much so I'll waste my time writing a meaningless comment so every other tic-turd on the thread can absorb the superiority of my marvellous mind (cough cough) jk. stay healthy out there
I remember when I was around 8 years old I first learned how conservation of momentum worked (although I didn't know it was called that at the time). While I was riding in an RV or a van going 70mph I tried jumping in the air because I thought I would go flying to the back of the vehicle, which obviously didn't happen. So, I wondered how it was possible to land right in the same place each time even though I was independent of the fast moving vehicle, I thought about it for a while and eventually had a sorta "eureka" moment when I understood why that happened. Anyways, I'm just shocked that someone less than 10 years old can understand how conservation of momentum works on his own but full grown adult flat earthers STILL can't understand it even with all the information they need to know about it being right at their fingertips
When I was about that age, I would try it on the bus. I came to the same conclusion. Also, if you try jumping out of a slow moving truckbed, you will land awkwardly and likely fall, as jumping doesn't slow you down.
Good god, I’m 11 and want to pursue a career in astrophysics, and I physically *hate* these people for spreading misinformation throughout the internet instead of learning something for a goddamn moment.
Top of the mornin' to ya Dan, love how this first person uses math and science to debunk whatever he's trying to debunk ... his limit of understanding is hilarious.
I would apologise on the behalf of the rest of the Kingdom of Fife for Dean, if he was actually local. We have people out to serve an eviction notice at the moment
Nathan is very lucky that the Internet exists. If he had an actual discussion in person with another person, Nathan's face would be unrecognizable in just a few minutes...
I'm here because last weekend I was at the beach where I saw a guy who had put up banners claiming that the earth is flat, with some diagrams trying to explain why. I had no clue that there was a flat earth community and thought it was a joke. I decided to look this up and was flabbergasted to see that the belief in a flat earth does indeed exist. This led me to this channel and I have been watching SciManDan's videos all week! I've noticed that even after the advances in science and technology, these flat earthers demonstrate such a high level of personal incredulity (a term I have encountered so many times this past week) to conclude that the science cannot possibly be real and offer their own tin foil hat explanations with full-blown confidence. So much respect to SciManDan for stepping in to show the errors of their ways. I have learnt so much too and have a much better understanding of this beautiful globe we live on!
The bit with Nathan Oakley: Both of them were stuck in an Abbot and Costello "Who's on first?" joke. Brownian motion and atoms randomly leaving the Earth's atmosphere are not the same as humans leaving the Earth's atmosphere. Entropy is poorly explained (for example the "order" vs "disorder", glass breaking, etc. analogies are terrible) by scientists and poorly understood by everybody else and abused by Nathan here and Creationists elsewhere. Colloquially speaking "order" can form in the absence of energy, i.e., hexagonal ice crystals, and glass can form naturally in the presence of energy, i.e., obsidian. Entropy should be explained in terms of probabilities, what is more likely given Brownian motion, etc. Also when people talk about entropy of gasses they forget to mention gravity exist which for gasses has the opposite effect of entropy.
@@ossinleffa-arkisto3046 You don't choose your beliefs. I only feel bad for those who were tricked and honestly believe. I could care less about the "gurus" who know it's all bullshit and make YT vids.
It helps keep me sane and gives me a cathartic release to laugh at their obnoxious, aggressive and willful ignorance. I live among a great many delusional people with harmful beliefs. You laugh or you cry.
Honestly, it shouldn't be so difficult. The sun sets and when it's day somewhere, it's night somewhere else. These two simple facts together aren't compatible with a flat earth.
I love how Dean has those vessel 15 to 20 miles away yet to their left those oil platforms are barely 5 yet the ships are clearly seen with the same zoom, those must be massive ships that towed Norway away.
Dean Wright: "That ship is 5 miles away". Everyone: "How have you measured that, Dean?" Dean Wright: "I... Er... Um..." Everyone (rolls eyes): "Jesus wept."
I think he said at one point one of the ships was between 15 and 20 miles away but of course it doesn`t really matter how far anyway because well you know ........ it doesn`t !!
Trust your senses is the most pathetic argument that any idiot should see through without even trying. If you could trust your senses then why on Earth would you need thermometer, level, laser, measure tape, altimeter, speedometer, manometer, watch and all the other precise equipment designed to tell you exact measurements?
My eyes tell me that there is nothing at all across from my house. So either its dark and my eyes are lying, or my neighbor has vanished into an endless void
@SciManDan, with Daniel Pratt, you said he got it "bang wrong". I hate to say this, but he actually got it right. Once an object is detached from the rotating body, angular momentum of the object goes away and it follows a straight line. What he gets wrong is that the jumping astronauts are not detached from the Moon. They are still attached by gravity.
@@magnussundberglauridsen7292 I don't believe his interlocutor should keep his cool in that situation. Nathan is purposefully asking questions only to interrupt the responses. I'd try to formulate a cutting barb and use it with rhetorical flourish. Best you can do. Letting him keep on the path is completely useless for anyone but him.
When he said globe Priest I can imagine a globe Earth church where everybody wears robes with the earth on it and the grand high priest has a stick with a globe on it that spins and there's a giant stone statue of atlas holding the globe up.
I love how they use 'priest' and 'religion' and '-isms' as derogatory terms, helping to extinguish the belief system that caused the flatard pandemic in the first place!
Love how dean ignored the ship to the right of his first ship where you can only see the cargo and not the ship, he pans by so fast you almost miss it, but we didn't did we.
@@blusoldier5253 ship at 6.55 to about 7.07 to the right of the ship he concentrated on you can see half a ship and lots of cargo. To be fair my eyes are old and I'm not technically skilled so no idea how to zoom in on it but looks that way to me.
Hallvard Paulsen - the location of the moon and the sun, inside or outside the container, is wholly dependent on which side of the bed they fall out of. Unless, of course, they live in a car. Then, it is dependent on which side of the car they crawl out of. It could also be due to the fact that they forget what lies they told previously.
@@maifantasia3650 This is brilliant! My response/barb is that they think it's a great unknown. No one has -- or, perhaps ever can -- travel to the 'firmadome'. Dragons be there! WoooOOOooo! Spooky noises! They have no clue so one is as good as the other to them.
It's inside if they're arguing that it has to be close by, but outside if they're arguing that we couldn't have gone there. It's similar to perspective and refraction: two phenomena poorly-understood by flerfs, which behave in whatever way is required to support the claim they're making at the time.
The oil rigs are COSL Pioneer in the foreground and Ocean Valiant in the background. Given the coordinates at which they are anchored, they are 2.9km apart.
At 9:38 did the guy not realize that oil rigs usually have legs? he has basically proved that the earth is round... sir, we are grateful for this evidence!!
I finally took physics this year and it’s so funny how absolutely bonkers these people are. Bro is talking about angular velocity like he knows what he’s talking about.
They conflate Copernican and post-Copernican cosmology with a roughly spherical Earth because it lets them pretend the global conspiracy is only a few hundred years old rather than thousands of years.
Another favorite of mine that many flat Earthers misuse is "geostationary." So often I hear them say things like, "Earth isn't moving; it's geostationary." They're actually, sort of, correct; Earth _is_ stationary relative to itself.
If Daniel Pratt wants to truly understand conservation of momentum, he should do what I did, and pull tank trailers for six years. Conservation of momentum kept my load stable once it overcame momentum, and that's what kept me on the road, straight and true. As for Pratt, in the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"
My experience on the water, when you zoom in on the horizon and see 'waves' like those at 8:23 where he's zoomed into a far away island are indication of really bad refraction at the water's surface. You can see this even with just a decent pair of binoculars.
Nathan Oakley is such an obnoxious person... “I can’t prove you’re wrong so I’ll just speak louder than you.” The Karen of flat earther.
That dude infuriates me so much. The ultimate in obnoxious morons !
Unfortunately Nathan Oakley's voice makes any video unwatchable IMO, so I'm clicking away early. Sorry Dan.
Didn't you know? Talking loudly turns opinions into facts! (same works writing in all-caps!)
Exactly. Other flat earthers make me wanna smack myself in the face. Nathan Oakley makes me wanna smack HIM in the face. "Don't raise your voice, improve your argument".
@@hedgehog1965uk He's got a few good rhetorical tricks that make him sound clever.
"I'm louder than you and won't let you finish your sentences so I must be right."
Truly the highest form of debate.
That annoyed me so much
Just like people that argue their political views.
like my kids when they are arguing together... but at least they are no more flefer, the last one got 4...
That's the rhetorical trick. Oakley does it well. He asks the question to sound reasonable. Then he waits for the response, and then he cuts them off sounding smarmy and superior. That way the audience thinks he must have a clever point.
Uuuugh. Some of these cult leaders would just talk incessantly. Non-stop, no pause. The pause and allowing for a response (that you'll interrupt) gives a very important effect. It gives the semblance like its an actual conversation.
Anyone have any duct tape?
Flerfer: " _Look at all these boats! Miles away on the horizon line!_ "
Smart people: " _You're standing on a hill. Put the camera at water level._ "
Flerfer: " _But then the camera can't see them.._ "
Smart people: " _Yup._ "
"ThAt PrOvEs NoThInG! yOu'Re JuSt DeFlEcTiNg OuR aRgUmEnT!"
I'm also trying to work out what Dean's water line references are so that he knows he can see everything above the water line.
That argument can at best assume that the Earth is bigger than 'we were told'. But still there's no doubt you can't see stuff beyond the curve no matter how high you go.
If he did this from the top of a cliff, he could see with the naked eye that the horizon dips below eye level with nothing more than a spirit level.
We know the infamous black swan rig had half its pillars hidden - its hard to tell with this one without more info.
He could get a free app on his phone & get all the details of those ships including their distance from his position. He probably knows that but wouldn't want facts to get in the way of his flat earth evidence.
Nathan Oakley deliberately kept interrupting the scientist because he knew that if he let him finish his sentence it would make more sense than the bs he was trying to push
His mute button finger must've been strained or broke!!
"Your eyes won't lie!"
He says while showing footage of warped towers and islands that appear to float.
Yup. They never lie.
Nathan Oakley: "if I just keep repeating myself while talking over everyone, I must be right!"
Well you won't be able to prove him wrong.
He'll just scream over you.
being louder, doesn't make you righter. lol
And selective mute (by volume control). You can see Rumpus' icon lighting up as he tries to speak, but you can't hear him. He never gets to finish his sentence.
Nathan Oakley is a loud mouthed, arrogant moron.
I am not a violent guy and rarely want to slap anybody. But Nathan Oakley could prove an exception.
“Your eyes won’t lie!”
Ok, flat earther - watch as I bend this pencil by placing it in a glass of water...
unfortunately they rely on misunderstanding refraction such as their homemade models of sunsets using a large magnifying glass on a tabletop.
or making it wiggly as I shake it between two fingers.
He clearly hasn't ever seen an optical illusion, has he? Or does he belief those are real too? I wouldn't be surprised.
Look, my fingers are sometimes transparent because I can see right through them at times when I put my hand in front of my face! (Your eyes lie to you a lot of times).
Uhhhh something about a refraction limit! Yeah! XD
"If I stand on a hill, I can see further" - Dean Wright, 2021.
That alone is proof the earth is not flat. However this fact flies right over flattards' heads.
@@mdo ye there is no reasoning mate. Might as well just nod and laugh at them 😂
@@YegaSRT when I first discovered this...movement, I was trying to genuinely convince flat earthers they're wrong. I quickly realized it's pointless, so now I just laugh at them and move on.
"Your eyes don't lie". I guess he's never heard of optical illusions? I'd love to see him try and debunk that optical illusions are a thing.
this comment is underrated
5:55 When a Flerfer says "we've debunked it a million times", he means "we still don't understand it".
Bear in mind as well that he cannot count higher than 10, 20 if he takes off his shoes. He has no concept of what 1,000,000 means.
"Sitting on the horizon line" Ah yes, the horizon line. That thing that could never exist on a flat plain.
All the fail and more.
it's plane! quick, change it before the flerfs see it!
Daniel Pratt is my favorite flerf. he's such an angry little man. he speaks with such conviction and he really believes he knows anything about physics. it's hilarious. 😆
basically it's a continuous tantrum.
Worst kind of interviewer. Get half of a point from a guest. Stop listening. Repeat that "half of a point" over and over until the guest hangs up. Claim victory.
@@nagranoth_ he gets so mad you can tell he wants to fist fight you in the parking lot because he thinks you're wrong about the shape of the earth. 😂😂😂😂
@@chasman9662 that wasn't pratt...
What is it with flat earthers and being angry all the time? You'd almost think they were trying to compensate for something.....
For all practical purposes, Oakley's body is a closed system but he still seems to be able to talk out of his arse.
That is actually insulting to people who do talk out of their arse lol.
@@marienbad2 well, luckily, they/we are not a minority so I should be safe.
...so flying to the moon is impossible.
No, impractical. Moon travel is not a practical purpose.
Apparently he thought saying "practical purposes" over and over and over would somehow prove his point.
I love this comment
"Where the bloody hell is Norway?" That's got to be your next t-shirt.
If the Earth is flat, shouldn't you be able to see New York from Land's End with a good enough telescope?
@@FelixBat *sad norway noises*
@@MrNegativecreep07 the earth isn't flat or round it is *THICC*
@@FelixBat Oh no! I have always thought that I existed. Thank you for that!
I lived in Norway for 10 years and I can confirm it exists and it's not flat. In fact it's a great place to go snowboarding.
Flatearther: "Your eyes don't tell you lies !"
Every magician: lying on the floor, laughing his arse off.
"Assumptions are lies"...oh for fluffs sake Dean, you just assumed every single distance you mentioned! Lmfao
That's a cool profile pic
I just checked out the map areas around Scotland and he is way off
Can literally see only half of the oil rigs and that guys asking “where’s the curve?” 😂😂
Where’s the curve?
Bend over and I’ll show you!
😂 I love Christmas vacation.
Yeah, does he really believe those oil platforms are NOT built on pillars? The structure is sitting right in the water? lol
@@PaulSchober He believes what he desperately wants to believe, I think.
Those are mobile semi submersible rigs, which do look like that. Without knowing their dimensions and how high they are riding, you can't really tell how much of the 'legs' are over the horizon.
"Your eyes do not lie.."
One of the stupidest things a person could say.
Eyes absolutely do lie - more accurately it's extremely easy to trick human visual perception.
Dean clearly hasn't heard of optical illusions.
He probably worships David Blaine as a god.
The problem with the world is that intelligent people are full of doubt while the dumb ones are confident in their own bs
To be fair, your eyes do not lie, your brain (like a flerfer) fills in the gaps of visual information with what it assumes is the right answer.
So while your eyes are incapable of lying to you, your brain makes a convincing argument for what 'should' be there. Just a shame flerf arguments aren't convincing since we have the facts that disprove them.
Or beer goggles lol :P
@@jollybodger it depends on your eyes to a degree eg colour blindness is caused by an inherited genetic fault rather than the brain.
I’m colour blind and find certain very similar shades of green and brown can be hard to differentiate between
Technically that's your brain disregarding information that isn't helpful to your survival.
“Your eyes dont lie to you” 😂😂 ok well thats every magician and illusionist out of business
Flat earthers are magicians prime targets and their main bankroll. Ever notice how your stupidest friends are also the ones that would share those videos of that one guy who would do the worst magic tricks on Facebook that were so easy to see right through, like the one where he puts 5 cards on screen, and says in 5 seconds ONLY your card will disappear, and he then shows 4 cards on the screen to make it seem like it was your card that he removed, but all 4 cards are actually different so obviously yours was removed lol and the guy was so arrogant but only had the worst zero effort zero talent magic tricks... yeah only the morons would share those videos, and they’re the same ones who fall for all the obviously fake conspiracy links and everything so dumb or fake that 12 people explain in the comments how and why it’s fake in the first 10 seconds and they’re like “ohhhh” but I mean how are you that dumb to fall for it... and yeah the dumbest of the dumb of those people are the flat earthers, they’re the ones who you can explain how a magic trick works or how something is fake down to the exact tiny detail and they’re still like “idk I still think it’s real” or something dumb like that where you’re amazed they’re even alive if they’re that stupid. Lol yeah those are the flat earthers
I thought SciManDan would've just showed a simple optical illusion to prove him wrong lmao
And refraction is a thing on a flat earth, interesting...
“Your eyes don’t lie to you.”
*Shows a picture of half a ship that’s covered by the curvature with refraction taken into account*
“That just looks like it’s disappearing over a curve! It’s just your eyes playin tricks on you! All that is, is just perspective!” You couldn’t make that up folks.
@@MOTH-Machine lmao
Mythbusters did a wonderful segment about the conservation of momentum. They tested the age-old question of what would happen if you were on a train going the speed of a bullet and then shot a bullet backwards.
They tested it by making an air cannon that they put on the back of a truck, loaded with a ball and then matched the cannon's muzzle velocity with the vehicle, shooting the ball backwards at the same speed the truck was going forwards.
The ball dropped straight down, as it was carried forward by the car and backward by the cannon at the exact same speed.
And here's the clip: th-cam.com/video/BLuI118nhzc/w-d-xo.html
Very cool how it falls perfectly straight down!
"Dont tell me something I dont know, otherwise its lies" -some guy yelling at the ocean
They also yell at the sky--but not at night. Flattards don't like being outside at night.
Honestly, I’m surprised Dean didn’t shit himself when he saw that island floating in mid-air.
"Maaaagic! The magic SEAMEN are BACK! RUUUN AWAAAY!"
"Your eyes don't lie, clearly They(TM) are hiding these hovering land masses from us!"
🤣😂
if you want to see a flat earther panic take them out to sea 20 miles and ask them where the land is
@@perry92964 ,
Blind fold them first. ;)
Nathan Oakley is an enormous knob with a tiny knob, yelling at everyone to compensate that fact and trying to sound like he is the definitive authority on the shape of the earth who nobody can refute.
I wish someone would hook him up to a couple of weather balloons and let him go see the truth for himself - reminding him to take a few deep breaths on the way up... cos he won't be taking any on the way down.
Nathan Oakley is a poor example of Poe's law. He is trolling the globe-denying oxygen thieves for cash, but he keeps mistakingly crossing the line that exposes him, so he has to double down else he blows his cover.
Thank you Nathan Oakley, for showing the earth isn't flat
Careful if you upset him he might smack you, he is known for it.
@@marks-0-0 the next time he screams about having his balls in someone's mouth, I hope that said someone says, "no, I don't have your balls yet, Quantum Eraser hasn't sent them in the post yet. He isn't finished using them as a lollipop"
Danial Pratt “I’ve never taken a physics class in my life, but I am smarter than Einstein!”
"Watch me prove the earth doesn't spin by citing pendulums!"
Fun Trivia: Foucault's Pendulum was the first experiment to provide hard proof that the Earth did rotate. Dan showed a replica in this video. That giant ball swinging and slowly rotating as it does. Flerfs *despise* learning about this experiment. Fun fact, Foucault wasn't a trained scientist, but a doctor by trade. He found he disliked medicine and became an inventor and experimenter!
Isn't that the mantra that all Flerfs go by?
While it’s possible to be smart without being knowledgeable, I somehow don’t think he is.
We should start calling him Denial Pratt.
@NewWorld Abnormal True, but that doesn't mean you can just shove it aside whenever it is convenient.
"your eyes do not lie" - conveniently ignoring the fact that the islands all appear to be floating in the sky above the horizon, not on it. And also that seeing the top of oil rigs but not the base in the sea isn't exactly the win he thinks it is XD
Hi Dan. The two oil rigs are offshore from the Bifarb construction yard at Methil, on the Fife coast, and are most certainly not miles apart. Rigs are often found in this location after construction, during refurbishment, or being stored due to a downturn in production. They are certainly not operational if that's what Dean is trying to suggest. There is no oil in the Firth of Forth.
The "mountains" Dean alludes to are in fact the Lammermuir Hills, in East Lothian, and not one of them comes anywhere near qualifying as a mountain. And strangely enough, in Dean's video you can't make out the towns of Port Seton, Cockenzie, and Prestonpans, which stretch along the East Lothian coast, making almost a continual line of buildings. Indeed, you can't even make out the town of Tranent, about 2 miles south of the coast and on a higher elevation.
I see Dean must have read my previous comments, and for once has included the Isle of May, right at the mouth of the Firth of Forth. Unfortunately for Dean, the image of it has a great deal of refraction, which is why it appears to be floating above the water.
“Closed system, like a train”? Tried to get a train once. Never again. Impossible to get on, let alone get off.
I'm *still* riding the same train I was born on, 34 years ago. Don't do it, kids. Don't board a train!
My insides rage whenever flat earthers use thermodynamics concepts in classical mechanics... There's literally no such thing as an open/closed system in classical mechanics lol.
I saw that documentary. The train continuously moving. They said if it ever stopped everyone would die. I'm not sure how they covered the Earth with snow while filming. Must have been CGI
@@rogermccaslin5963 it was dandruff
To build a train track it has to be flat all the way across.
10:16 Dean believes to this day that his uncle can make a pen bend by just flicking his wrist repeatedly
That's nothing, HIs Auntie still has his nose from when he was 7.
That’s nothing his older brother still has penny’s stuck in his arm from when he used to heat them up and stick them through his skin.
Can you imagine being one of their childhood science teachers, and grading a test. Head shaking and face palming.
But they all understood this stuff as children. It was only after they started thinking contrarianism was cool that they got stupid.
I feel sorry for their kids. Hopefully they don't have one.
@@stevethecatcouch6532 That or they were home schooled and their parents let them cheat on tests. Or they went to a high school like I did where the *teachers* let the students cheat on tests. They have a monetary incentive to not fail too many. Satsuma High School just passed students. Illiterate, uneducated students.
@@stevethecatcouch6532 That school was utterly traumatizing when I moved there from a real school system. Imagine the worst possible parody of Alabama. It was that. And worse.
@@stevethecatcouch6532 You mean that they had a brain-fart and then became flerfs.
"Your eyes don't deceive you" a man says as he films mirages.
Those ships, ‘fifteen miles away’, must be bloody huge!
Like 500' tall!
My favourite is the very first ship he shows doesn't have the distinctive bulge at the base of the prow of the other ones, perhaps because that part of the hull is below the horizon. I grant you that perhaps that particular ship has a different hull design to the others in the video, but it's not like my assumption of similar hull designs of similar ships is any less spurious than his random rangefinding.
@@ojrmk1yup, he was pulling numbers out of his...........
"You're eyes don't deceive you"
This dude clearly thinks magicians have real magic
Or that there is a floating river above the road.
I sight Harry Potter is evidence.......spitting facts bro
God I am amazed that anybody is honoring Nathan Oakley with their presence after all these years. Stop going to his show people, let him preach to the choir.
im sure people go to hear him make an ass out of himself and laugh at him....but i dont think he would except that reason
Nathan wouldn’t understand being called “obtuse”. Why? Because it’s geometry of course.
XD Highly underrated comment
*ScimanDan mentioning Norway*
Me, a random Norwegian: "oh wow :') he said Norway"
I felt this😂
@@mrman3904 😂😂
Norway? No of Lions - 0. No of Tigers - 0. Main Export - Tree. More like Snoreway! (and if you get this reference you are truly an Internet Veteran - an Intereteran, if you will.)
@@ojrmk1 sounds like something Monty Python's flying circus came up with
Me, a Norwegian American in Iowa: Norway is about 20 miles southwest of here. Jamaica is near Des Moines. 😉
"Pratt: "It's called physics." Yes, and it includes calculations of the actual values of velocity and acceleration, which you never do.
I love LEO's sarcastic newsreader voice. It's amazing how many flat earthers put on that voice. The patronising 'I'm talking to an idiot' voice
Gets to practice is a lot since every thought to himself is also him talking to an idiot.
Sigh, Okley's discussion technique belongs in kindergarten... but other kids wouldn't want him in their sandbox.
There is no way to have any type of productive discussion with a weirdo like this. This is why Nathan has no friends. None. Even flat earthers avoid him.
Funny and accurate. I approve this message 😂
The only thing Nathan would do in a sandbox, is what a cat does in a sandbox.
If “Your eyes do not lie” flat earthers must be really confused in a House of Mirrors.
It's a very dangerous place for them, they bump endlessly on the first mirror and hurt themselves
They must fall over when they see a train moving forward next to them.
@Ruffle It seems round to me. There is a lot of evidence for it. Why should I believe otherwise?
@Ruffle It would seem like you're the sheep here dismissing evidence to be a part of the flat earth club.
No u except for self proclaimed experts who know nothing of what they're talking about.
I absolutely love that video of the rocket taking off and seeing it from space, something is just amazing about it
Always great. Thanks SciManDan!
"And what about Norway?"
What, did they misplace it...AGAIN?
I remember looking out from my house in Wisconsin and seeing Norway just a little bit to the Northeast. Scary place. Lots of trolls. Would not recommend.
@@MuttFitness hey man, Not nice. I'm from Norway and there are no trolls here. Just some flerfs that I am more than happy to send over to you😉😁
@@fgjui2 no one thinks there are trolls until they sneak up on you and grab you
@@MuttFitness nah I'm not scared, we are Vikings you know. I'll drop that troll in a heartbeat 😂
@@fgjui2 you are full of trolls in norway
I'm gad that I'm neither stupid enough nor dishonest enough to be a Flerfer.
I'm 'gad' I can at least spell understandable words... so much so I'll waste my time writing a meaningless comment so every other tic-turd on the thread can absorb the superiority of my marvellous mind (cough cough)
jk. stay healthy out there
We will run out of air because flat earthers keep pulling numbers out of it! 🤣🤣🤣
I genuinely felt a great amount of anger during that last clip with Nathan.
He has that effect on people. My head would probably explode from the effort to not punch him in the mouth to shut him up.
@@sanytram1 thats what hes going for, it seems. i mean, its not like anything useful would fall from his face _except_ teeth...
"Show us conservation of angular mementum."
Guess he's never heard of the Law of Conservation of Angular Momentum.
Or flywheels: the technology of flywheels is insane, in the pursuit of zero loss and 100% transmission.
I remember when I was around 8 years old I first learned how conservation of momentum worked (although I didn't know it was called that at the time). While I was riding in an RV or a van going 70mph I tried jumping in the air because I thought I would go flying to the back of the vehicle, which obviously didn't happen. So, I wondered how it was possible to land right in the same place each time even though I was independent of the fast moving vehicle, I thought about it for a while and eventually had a sorta "eureka" moment when I understood why that happened. Anyways, I'm just shocked that someone less than 10 years old can understand how conservation of momentum works on his own but full grown adult flat earthers STILL can't understand it even with all the information they need to know about it being right at their fingertips
When I was about that age, I would try it on the bus. I came to the same conclusion. Also, if you try jumping out of a slow moving truckbed, you will land awkwardly and likely fall, as jumping doesn't slow you down.
Good god, I’m 11 and want to pursue a career in astrophysics, and I physically *hate* these people for spreading misinformation throughout the internet instead of learning something for a goddamn moment.
Top of the mornin' to ya Dan, love how this first person uses math and science to debunk whatever he's trying to debunk ... his limit of understanding is hilarious.
I’ve always looked forward to Fridays, and Flat Earth Fridays make it even better. Off to swing on a gate now 😀
Swinging on a gate
Wiv a lot of boys.
Swinging on a gate
Don't we make a noise?
Cute song by Harry Hemsly from 1930s or so
I would apologise on the behalf of the rest of the Kingdom of Fife for Dean, if he was actually local. We have people out to serve an eviction notice at the moment
Nathan is very lucky that the Internet exists. If he had an actual discussion in person with another person, Nathan's face would be unrecognizable in just a few minutes...
I'm here because last weekend I was at the beach where I saw a guy who had put up banners claiming that the earth is flat, with some diagrams trying to explain why. I had no clue that there was a flat earth community and thought it was a joke. I decided to look this up and was flabbergasted to see that the belief in a flat earth does indeed exist. This led me to this channel and I have been watching SciManDan's videos all week! I've noticed that even after the advances in science and technology, these flat earthers demonstrate such a high level of personal incredulity (a term I have encountered so many times this past week) to conclude that the science cannot possibly be real and offer their own tin foil hat explanations with full-blown confidence. So much respect to SciManDan for stepping in to show the errors of their ways. I have learnt so much too and have a much better understanding of this beautiful globe we live on!
"Air doesn't take the shape of a sphere."
What's in a basketball, then?
🤔😂👍
What do these yahoos think the sun is, a giant light bulb?
density.
😐
Or a soccer ball (Futball (did i spell that right?) Fod people who aren't American.)
Edit: futbol, i Googled it.
@@blusoldier5253 In English it is actually Football.
Oh, poor Daniel. Any minute now even his water heater will understand simple physics before he does.
"If that is the case, where the bloody hell is Norway?" ! Fantastic stuff!
“Your eyes don’t lie”
Descartes is turning over in his grave 😂😂
The bit with Nathan Oakley: Both of them were stuck in an Abbot and Costello "Who's on first?" joke. Brownian motion and atoms randomly leaving the Earth's atmosphere are not the same as humans leaving the Earth's atmosphere. Entropy is poorly explained (for example the "order" vs "disorder", glass breaking, etc. analogies are terrible) by scientists and poorly understood by everybody else and abused by Nathan here and Creationists elsewhere. Colloquially speaking "order" can form in the absence of energy, i.e., hexagonal ice crystals, and glass can form naturally in the presence of energy, i.e., obsidian. Entropy should be explained in terms of probabilities, what is more likely given Brownian motion, etc. Also when people talk about entropy of gasses they forget to mention gravity exist which for gasses has the opposite effect of entropy.
Another flat earth compilation just as I am struggling to fall asleep at 5AM! Glad to be early again
Eyes don't lie? That's either every magician out of a job, or we have genuine sorcerers among us.
Clever!
*Harry Potter wants to know your location...*
I love laughing at flat earthers it's just so good and I don't feel bad
They chose to believe in stupid things
Yes whenever you feel down about making a stupid mistake, there are flerfers who show that they are dumber than you.
@@davidlazarus67 it is beautiful indeed
@@ossinleffa-arkisto3046 You don't choose your beliefs.
I only feel bad for those who were tricked and honestly believe. I could care less about the "gurus" who know it's all bullshit and make YT vids.
It helps keep me sane and gives me a cathartic release to laugh at their obnoxious, aggressive and willful ignorance. I live among a great many delusional people with harmful beliefs.
You laugh or you cry.
I love how Dan enjoys his work XD. Thanks for bringing the best fun to us man
Dan Pratt is always good for a laugh. Such a great mixture of obnoxious, arrogant, and utterly clueless all surrounded by his unheated "science shed."
there is more science in my shed
But Dean, why is there any apparent horizon if it's flat? Surely it would be a blur...
Wow, that is so true. I've never thought of that before. That one fact alone debunks the flat Earth model.
@@peteskyrunner4845 No! It's flerfspective!
Honestly, it shouldn't be so difficult.
The sun sets and when it's day somewhere, it's night somewhere else.
These two simple facts together aren't compatible with a flat earth.
I love how Dean has those vessel 15 to 20 miles away yet to their left those oil platforms are barely 5 yet the ships are clearly seen with the same zoom, those must be massive ships that towed Norway away.
If eyes don't lie, then I would love to visit that floating island shown around 8:22. That thing just hangs in the air, now how cool is that!
I was all ready to try his merry-go-round experiment but then I got too bored trying to get the dang thing to spin around exactly once in 24 hours.
“Your eyes don’t deceive you” I live on that beach it looks like it curves to me.
"your eyes don't deceive you" *shows optical illusion *
Dean Wright: "That ship is 5 miles away".
Everyone: "How have you measured that, Dean?"
Dean Wright: "I... Er... Um..."
Everyone (rolls eyes): "Jesus wept."
His ass must be sore from pulling so many numbers out of it.
It's time to play.. Numberwang!
@@hedgehog1965uk The ones are easy. Sevens are tough.
I like "that platform is 15-20 miles away".
Really? Not "5-50 miles away"?
I think he said at one point one of the ships was between 15 and 20 miles away but of course it doesn`t really matter how far anyway because well you know ........ it doesn`t !!
maybe they're right, maybe we do live on a beach ball.
90 % of flat earther's arguments can be resolved with "you realize the earth is huge right ?"
Nathan Oakley's strategy: Bark continuously and interrupt others to pass his nonsense as fact.
Classic Nathan Oakley, shouting over someone trying to speak rather than listen to the truth.
"Your eyes don't lie!" I would like to show him the classic "wawy pencil" trick, and after that...
How bout a Magic Trick...?
He never reached for anything under water when he is above the surface.
I can't see the wind, therefore the wind is fake
Trust your senses is the most pathetic argument that any idiot should see through without even trying.
If you could trust your senses then why on Earth would you need thermometer, level, laser, measure tape, altimeter, speedometer, manometer, watch and all the other precise equipment designed to tell you exact measurements?
I've been saying this for years to flat earthers...
My eyes tell me that there is nothing at all across from my house. So either its dark and my eyes are lying, or my neighbor has vanished into an endless void
You're the last man alive.
Those oil rigs are about 400 to 600 meters a part from eachother!
Edit: also, they are 2,5 to 3km away from the shore.
@SciManDan, with Daniel Pratt, you said he got it "bang wrong". I hate to say this, but he actually got it right. Once an object is detached from the rotating body, angular momentum of the object goes away and it follows a straight line. What he gets wrong is that the jumping astronauts are not detached from the Moon. They are still attached by gravity.
But, but gravity doesn't exist in his reality, so that doesn't work either.
" It's the legend himself, Dean Wright"
Dean who?
6:45
Oh this guy!
Nathan Okely Dokely: "iTs A ClOsED SYsTEM sO TwEre MuSt bE a BaRRieR!!!!!!!!"
Yeah I would not be able to keep my cool if I was in that conversation.
It's not even funny. Nathan is not just stupid, he's also an absolutely horrible human being.
Nathan is super keen on the "placing your fingers in your ears and yelling loudly" school of debate.
@@magnussundberglauridsen7292 I don't believe his interlocutor should keep his cool in that situation. Nathan is purposefully asking questions only to interrupt the responses. I'd try to formulate a cutting barb and use it with rhetorical flourish. Best you can do.
Letting him keep on the path is completely useless for anyone but him.
@Dante2014 Pfft, that's perfect.
For all intents and purposes, Nathan Oakley's mind is a closed system.
*clogged
@@RideAcrossTheRiver touche my good sir. Touche.
Nathan's brain is just like new, it's still hermetically sealed.
@@nancystowell4877 Nathan's mouth can stand some sealant.
“There’s a boat, another boat, and a rock. Therefore, the earth is flat”
Nathan Oakley heard the word he wanted to hear and then just screamed over the following explanation. Truly a high brow intellectual right there.
When he said globe Priest I can imagine a globe Earth church where everybody wears robes with the earth on it and the grand high priest has a stick with a globe on it that spins and there's a giant stone statue of atlas holding the globe up.
Sign me up!
I picture Little Caesars' "Pizza Pizza" guy in the Toga, lol.
@@_Abjuranax_ i can see that.
May the Globe be with you
I love how they use 'priest' and 'religion' and '-isms' as derogatory terms, helping to extinguish the belief system that caused the flatard pandemic in the first place!
If our eyes do not lie, I guess no one has ever been fooled by an optical illusion.
If the earth was flat, cats would have knocked everything off the edge by now.
This joke wasn't funny even when it was brought up first several years ago.
Never heard that one before. Made me laugh. Thanks Mick.
@@christianege4989 So you claim, mister joke expert. Do you use curvature mathematics to determine how heavy and consistent a joke is ?
And my cat Prancer would be high in the rankings of knocking stuff off.
😂🤣
Love how dean ignored the ship to the right of his first ship where you can only see the cargo and not the ship, he pans by so fast you almost miss it, but we didn't did we.
Time stamp please, my oblivious ass can't find it
@@blusoldier5253 ship at 6.55 to about 7.07 to the right of the ship he concentrated on you can see half a ship and lots of cargo. To be fair my eyes are old and I'm not technically skilled so no idea how to zoom in on it but looks that way to me.
I just checked the comments on each of these original videos and I've got to give props to LEO's commenters - they are hands-down the nuttiest.
I thought the moon was *inside* the "enclosure" together with the sun!?
"HoW dArE yOu UsE oUr OwN wOrDs AgAiNsT uS!"
Hallvard Paulsen - the location of the moon and the sun, inside or outside the container, is wholly dependent on which side of the bed they fall out of. Unless, of course, they live in a car. Then, it is dependent on which side of the car they crawl out of.
It could also be due to the fact that they forget what lies they told previously.
@@maifantasia3650 This is brilliant! My response/barb is that they think it's a great unknown. No one has -- or, perhaps ever can -- travel to the 'firmadome'. Dragons be there! WoooOOOooo! Spooky noises!
They have no clue so one is as good as the other to them.
@@maifantasia3650, I think it's especially the last point
It's inside if they're arguing that it has to be close by, but outside if they're arguing that we couldn't have gone there. It's similar to perspective and refraction: two phenomena poorly-understood by flerfs, which behave in whatever way is required to support the claim they're making at the time.
The oil rigs are COSL Pioneer in the foreground and Ocean Valiant in the background. Given the coordinates at which they are anchored, they are 2.9km apart.
Nathan oakly sounds like a child in Kindergarden
If my child acted as rude and obnoxious as Nathan he'd be in timeout until age 18.
And they wonder why most scientists can't be bothered to debate them, but thank goodness Dan is polite and patient and so good humoured.
Imagine level Earth observers misunderstanding of physics at the Olympics. Hammer throw, discus and javelin would be a health and safety nightmare 😂
In your product ad for Raycon ear buds you mention celebraties liking them such as Mike Tyson so I guess Evander Holyfield will only need one.
😂🤣👌
Fortunately Evander Holyfield is great friends with Vincent Van Gough so they bought a pair between them.
"Eyes do nor lie" There are basic optical illusions you can try at home
I’m wearing glasses... can’t see the fun without them 🤓 I wish my eyes saw perfectly. 🙄
@@1pierrr I'm near sighted too, mate. One day affordable surgery will cure us!
Anyone else find it ironic that Mike Tyson is obsessed with earbuds? xD
Yep Iron Mike never struck me (thank god) as the type of guy who would be interested in anything to do with ears given his history in the ring.
Just in case Holyfield come and bite his ears off in retaliation
🤣😂
At 9:38 did the guy not realize that oil rigs usually have legs? he has basically proved that the earth is round... sir, we are grateful for this evidence!!
I finally took physics this year and it’s so funny how absolutely bonkers these people are. Bro is talking about angular velocity like he knows what he’s talking about.
Leo every time he says “heliocentric model” with reference to shape of the earth... I don’t think that means what you think it means 🤦♂️
They conflate Copernican and post-Copernican cosmology with a roughly spherical Earth because it lets them pretend the global conspiracy is only a few hundred years old rather than thousands of years.
Another favorite of mine that many flat Earthers misuse is "geostationary." So often I hear them say things like, "Earth isn't moving; it's geostationary." They're actually, sort of, correct; Earth _is_ stationary relative to itself.
"Our eyes do not lie"
Everybody who's been to the or an Escher Museum: x doubt
If Daniel Pratt wants to truly understand conservation of momentum, he should do what I did, and pull tank trailers for six years. Conservation of momentum kept my load stable once it overcame momentum, and that's what kept me on the road, straight and true. As for Pratt, in the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon!"
@@FelixBat Yeah, but I had to. Damn DOT wants us to rely on science and not TH-cam videos. I hate when that happens.
My experience on the water, when you zoom in on the horizon and see 'waves' like those at 8:23 where he's zoomed into a far away island are indication of really bad refraction at the water's surface. You can see this even with just a decent pair of binoculars.