Jon Jones vs Stipe Miocic Is A Disgrace | Tom Aspinall Should Be Next
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ค. 2024
- I discuss Jon Jones vs Stipe Miocic being book for UFC MSG later this year instead of interim champion Tom Aspinall getting the title fight. I discuss Dana White's obsession with Jones being #1 P4P & protecting Tom Aspinall from Jones. We also look at a Stipe Miocic interview where he criticizes fans for claiming he's holding up the division.
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I’ve started and finished my bachelor’s degree since Stipe’s last win
Wow, that really puts it into perspective!
Hahahaha
LMAO
Almost have my associates degree finished, started and soon to be finished before jon has been in the octagon
lol damn
Stipe Miocic & I have the same amount of wins in the UFC since 2021
The ufc is protecting Miocic not JONES!
Except he’s actually in the UFC you’re just a neckbeard
THANK U JOEY. SOMETIMES I DISAGREE WITH U. MATTER FACT MORE OFTEN THAN NOT. THIS TIME I COULDNT AGREE MORE MR MMA JOEY
@@davidbell4626said no one..... ever...
@@davidbell4626 don't u shake ur finger at me young man. U aint half the man ur momma is
I need a live cam of dana if stipe flatlines jones
and make it an endless reel
I am praying for this LMAO. This would be the best outcome to make Dana & Jon look super dumb for making this fight. We can only hope Jon gets caught! 🤣
we must stream that shit illegally nobody pay that per view so they know to listen to the fans
Conor vs Khabib was the last ppv paid for. I don't understand why people pay anymore? So strangers get richer? Lmao
@@willi6880 i agree 💯
Lol, you can not even pay for your milk powder , how will you pay for PPV ?
I agree, but I’d guess 1/2 of UFC fans don’t pay for the fights anyway. You can always stream it for $1-5 on the pirate streams in 4K. I’ve used those on some of the big fights that I just had to see live. Otherwise, it’s been a couple of years since I’ve rented one on PPV.
I agree, but I stream regardless because that shit is too expensive to watch every month. I'm not spending $1,000 a year lol
This is exactly why Dana doesn't want Alex moving up to HW and he's hanging all over Jon's nuts. The LHW division is in disarray all because of his own doing 😂
It's not though, HW is
God I don't want much just stipe to flatline jones 😞😞
Thats a big ask lol
It's definitely possible.. anything is possible
I would pay paperview money to watch Dana’s face if stipe folds jones like a lawn chair
Be careful, you gonna make the Jon Jones fan boys start up their fatherless rants about Jones doing whatever he wants and that Jones is perfect in every way
Be careful Aspinal fan boy, you might be sniffing to close to Tom's crotch. I agree Jon Jones can do whatever the TF he wants. Now what. He's not perfect, but you are smug asshole aren't you.
Shak doesnt shy away even when hes face to face with the fighters. Hes always been a good interviewer
The title is 100% correct. NOBODY wants to see this fight we have to wait for for 17 months while the interim/real champ is defending the belt.
I want to see J.J vs Stipe
@@jericho-tube that's because you don't know anything about MMA. Stipe has been retired for three years after his last fight was a nasty knockout loss to Francis. Jon is going to dog walk him. It doesn't matter how good stipe used to be.
Otherwise you have some other deficiency. Why would you want to see that when we could see aspinal "the interim champ" vs Jones? It makes no sense to do this. Instead aspinal is going to defend the interim while we wait for Jon to dominate old man stipe that hasn't fought for 3½ years.
You are in the minority you and Dana White are the only two people who want to see this fight.
@@Ton12 Mamamamama. Lol
Stipe Miocic saved a few cats from trees in the last few years of course he should get a title shot
Stipe beating Jon Jones is the death of the ufc.
@@MMAJOEYC absolutely should he’s the heavyweight goat and a company man. Why shouldn’t the ufc throw him a bone?
Stipe Miocic is Ranked #6..... Tom Aspinall is #1 and currently holds the Belt in the UFC Heavy Weight Division.
C'mon man shitting on firefighters is a bad look
Ha ha, well said! 😊
Real simple:Dana, can Jon Jones still be pound for pound after 2yrs off? How bout 4yrs? After 5yrs of inaction when is he removed? It can’t be forever.
Pin that slimy f#ck down on an actual time frame on when inaction diminishes a fighter’s pound for pound rankings.
It’s always interesting to hear Joeys perspective on things because it’s not just the normal stuff everyone says, whether I agree with it or not I respect the well thought out conclusions he comes to
Perfect scenario: Stipe beats Jones. Retires and doesnt want Jones rematch. Tom Aspinal gets promotion to undisputed champ. Jones wants belt back and fights Tom Aspinal for the undisputed belt
Stipe always gets immediate rematches but people insist that he's disrespected??
exactly
If Stipe didnt duck thr contractually signed backup fighter, Pavlovich and won. no one would be questioning his title shot. he would have been the clear cut #1 contender with the interim title and he would be coming off a win.
I think you're right that Stipe was offered Pavlovich and turned it down before Pav v Tom. I could see that
my daughter was conceived and started walking since Stipe's last fight
Slightly rewording the Stipe lawnchair joke does not make it less recycled and that is the worst thing you can do to a good joke.
But he is holding it up. If it wasn't true, then why is Stipe not fighting other guys in the division.
Stipe getting beaten and folded up like a cheap towel.... No one Cares stipe should be ranked like # 7 in the division!!
Nope Francis Ngannou's Shadow looms large over the division....tge lineal champ...hence why Dana works overtime to bash his name
"anyone interjecting pereira into the heavyweight title. i hate you. i hate you." LOL
Joey took the lawn chair out of the garage. Had me cracking up like Stipe’s chin.
Since July 7, 2018, Stipe is 2 - 2.... exactly 6 years today. He's literally fought 4 times in 6 years, and lost half of them. And he was flatlined in his last fight 3 1/2 years ago. Yet he's going to be fighting 4 years after that loss for the belt. Would be funny if this card is a huge loss.
Jj vs another 40 year old 😅
how many fighter did stipe fight younger than him?
@@GoodStuff1992 idk
@@GoodStuff1992
If Stipe beats Jones, He definitely will retire as champ. He's over 40 and his legacy as the greatest heavyweight of all time will be unquestioned at that point. He'd also be the only man to have ever beaten jon Jones. He wouldn't risk all that by taking a rematch with Jones. But Jones on the other hand wouldn't want to go out on a loss. At that point he would definitely take on aspinall for the undisputed world heavyweight championship. I hope Stipe surprises us all and clean Jon's clock!
If Miočić vs Jones happened four years ago I would be hyped as hell but now it is meh. Aspinall vs Jones is logical.
Also for me Fedor will always be the greatest fighter of all time.
Tom stepped in FOR JON to KO a power puncher in the first round while injured
Jon subbed maybe the worst grappler at heavyweight who got exposed by Ngannou
Jon should be asking to fight the undisputed champ after UFC 304.
Tom stepped in for STIPE. pavlovich was already the backup fighter if jon or stipe got injured. so pav should have fought stipe. stipe ducked pavlovich and got us in this situation
@@GoodStuff1992don’t know why people make up false narratives, Sergei was definitely the backup fighter for the title before Jon got hurt. I don’t even know why the UFC decided to make that fight for the interim belt. Plus Sergei is overrated, he’s not technically sound, just a brawler
@@GoodStuff1992 stipe didnt duck, they didnt even offer him, he'd probabbly take it... but then ufc cant let jones fight stipe if he loses, they'd have to make it jones vs sergei...
@annddneww the ufc didnt have to "offer" stipe the fight because he already signed up for it. pav was the contractually signed up back up fighter.
@@GoodStuff1992 Stipe said he was ready to fight for the interim fight but they didn't call him.
I think Jones vs Old man Stipe is going to end up looking like a blob fight
if ufc gave title shot to colby who also didnt have a win over anyone who is in rankings of his division... why not give it to stipe? He's far more deserving of it.. and its not Stipe who u can blame, they want him to fight, he accepts, what does he give a damn, cry to the ufc... u look like a grown man, u shouldnt be having tantrums over things like this.... jones favoritism in ufc is since forever.... and he said he'd fight stipe before even getting the belt... tom and sergei were out of top 5 at the time....
Jones vs Stipe is not a fight, it’s a pension plan
Totally agree about Poatan staying at LHW. I’d rather see him fight Ankalaev, Izzy/DDP moving up, even Blachowicz. Jones vs Aspinall is the fight to make, Pereira can come up after that if he chooses.
Stipe hasn't fought anyone that's on the current roster now that Arlovski has retired. Absolutely insane.
Also, Arlovski deserved the karate hottie send off wayyy more than she did.
The guy clearly meant to say “break down” when he said “break me”. You can hear him immediately start to correct himself before you cut the video.
Why is Jon Jones considered the greatest when he spent the first half of his career beating up blown up middleweight 30 plus year olds and the second half squeaking boring decisions against a who’s who of the mediocre light heavyweight fodder. In between he beat DC a couple of times while on roids. Am I missing something??
That everybody's on steroids
UFC probably thinking jones vs alex after the stipe fight
I’ll break it down. The ufc is falling off, only hardcores care about the next generation. This Izzy dricus fight coming up has no buzz when it should be one of the biggest heated fights ever. Jones does 800k buys, Tom does 50k buys. Simple as that, they are hoping with one last big fight, if it be Conor or jones, it’ll put the ufc back on. Once jones, Conor and all these guys retire, it’s basically over for the ufc, they can’t survive on 50k ppv buys every card. The break even is probably 500k buys and you’ve got a stacked Islam and Dustin card doing just barely 500k
UFC doesn't have a big star but it's much bigger and it's not going anywhere bro.
MMA Joey one of my favorite MMA Channels
Pereira vs Aspinal is the fight we want. Aspinal has done little with the UFC so far, but is treated like a king. Pereira has done much and deserves to step up, what's the problem Dana? are you worried Pereira could stun the MMA world ?
Nah he should book you against J.J 😂
It’s crazy I don’t remember people being this upset when Whittaker got shoved in the corner for Bisping vs GSP to happen. Mind you GSP hadn’t fought in 4 years and was never a middleweight and Bisping had already had one lay up title Defence against 14th ranked Dan Henderson. Just let Jon and Stipe ride out on a big pay day retirement fight. Tom is still getting PPV points as interim champ. This literally isn’t affecting anyone at all besides people who want to see a past prime Jon/Stipe get pummeled by younger prime fighters. What happens if Jon does fight Aspinall and beats him then retires? UFC is stuck trying to promote Aspinall and Gane as the faces of the division.
Everything on point. New subscriber. 👊
While I agree that Stipe winning would probably clog the division more because Jones would get a rematch, at this point I still want that to happen just because it would be so good to see jones lose to someone he cherry picked
Nah Jones has shown 0 interest in Aspinal, you could tell when they were face to face.
Marble mouth
Dana utilizes ‘the fight business’ in his interpretation of p4p.
That’s a 100% cop out by him. Cause in his mind , he’s not lying , he’s talking like a promoter.
The UFC and Dana White have become a joke over the past 5 or so years. The match ups, the lack of talent, the Mcgregor saga, Power slap, Dana slapping his wife on NY, Nganou, fighter pay and employment conditions and now Jones vs Stipe just to name a few things. We need a seriously competitive alternative. I hope the Saudi's buy PFL and give us options in MMA, sick of the UFC
Why didn't stipe fight aspinall/pav for the title last November when JJ pulled out?...this question needs to be asked. Who else has ever turned down a hw title shot when offered to them under those circumstances?
Shak is one of the MMA journalism GOATs
Nobody knows who Aspinal is. Nobody knows the fighters hes faced. Stop simping. Miocic deserves that money fight hes the HW GOAT. Stop simping for Aspinal. Hes done nothing. I dont agree with Dana but he has to hype the fight. I understand that. 👍
You are so disrespectful to Jones and stipe. It's crazy
It couldn’t possibly be because Jones doesn’t want to fight Tom
Jon has two fights left on his contract the UFC wants the legend fight with Stipe and Tom or Alex in his last fight.
Don’t blame stipe for waiting he knows Jon wants to fight him so it’ll happen and it’s a free title shot. Chandler just waiting for a bag against someone who doesn’t even want to fight him
So, its okay for the UFC to keep their commitment to Conor and Chandler for their fight which is well over a year in the making. But somehow they shouldn't keep the same commitment to two of the most decorated HW's in UFC history? I like Tom, but his run just doesn't compare to the resume of Jones and Stipe. GSP was out 4 plus years and got a title shot. If Khabib came back today, they'd give him a instant title shot. Some fighters just transcend time. And Jones and Stipe are two of those guys. Tom, frankly, isn't.
As soon as jones steps in the ring Tom gets stripped!!!
thats not how that works
@@tarzanstricklandthat is how it works
@@GoodStuff1992 no its not lol
Topuria should be number one. He would beat anyone in a room with him
I want to see jones vs stipe but I also don’t want stipe and jones to not fight anyone else for 4 years. I agree this fight needs to happen but Aspinall vs jones needs to happen but it won’t jones will retire after he beats stipe because he knows the other heavyweights are a risk to his “perfect record” even though he lost to Reyes clearly
Dana got jealous of WWE being able to choose their champions. UFC is turning more and more into a pure entertainment business by the day. I don't know how long it'll last with the amount of dumbass judges decisions making everyone question wtf is even going on at this point.
Ok hear me out, I don’t understand it either but the UFC has done this similar thing before, a champion who became a two division champ fighting the goat of the division they just won their championship in after a long layoff, i.e Cejudo VS Cruze UFC 249, Cruze got dominated at 207 by Garbrandt and came back to fight Cejudo, that didn’t make sense either but nobody complains abt it
My man is constantly dropping videos and I'm all here for it
"man" i dunno about that, this is some bitchy whiny chick behavior
My man, I totally agree with you specifically when comes to Aspinal vs Jones.
Here's where I'm at since they are hell bent on the Jones/Stipe fight...
Alex vs Tom and winner fights Jones or Stipe
It's a good build up and story line and then after Alex beats them all we make Alex fight Strickland again and he shocks the world and beats Alex and then the world goes silent while they consult with GOD about everything they thought was real. 😂
I'm not a fan of this fight at all, but at the same time giving Stipe a title shot is not something insane in my opinion, and actually kinda make sense from sportsmanship perspective a little bit. I mean, Stipe was a champion with title defence, and he only lost to guy who is not in UFC anymore and who didn't lose his title to anyone. So he is nominally the "best" heavyweight right now. I understand all arguments against it for sure, just wanna say this fight is not completely meaningless
Strongly disagree
Hopefully Jones protons the fight for at least two rounds otherwise it will look even worse for him.
Dana makes money off Jones it's that simple. GSP is the goat and if he was still fighting and Jones wasn't he would maybe do this for him except they never liked GSP. He never got the breaks Jones did.....
Also Dana White looks like Dr Evil
He should not wear grey.
Joey..you do know that Jones vs Aspinall is 70-30 in favour of Jones, right ?
Both the Jones vs Miocic and the Chandler vs McGregor fights are just something I want over and done with at this point. I don't even care about the outcome or to see it.
You cant be goat with getting caught using ped multiple times. Otherwise give Lance Armstrong his wins back
Poatan ranked number 2 is even more of a disgrace and you say nothing about it
Stipe is irrelevant at this point, I’d go as far as saying there’s hundreds of thousands of new fans who ain’t ever seen him fight 😂
Tom Aspinal beats either of them
very very good point Bro now I hear You
Great vid....obv question why has UFC devalued it's hw title for the sake of 2 fighters who sat out through the whole pandemic.....what about rewarding the fighters who fight?
Seems now that Alex Vs Magomed is a must in terms of keeping Alex active until the heavyweight division clears the air. It is pretty sad that the Jones, Stipe, and Aspinall situation has created this dilemma that no matter who wins or loses their fights will possibly be catastrophic in one way or another. Jones losing would destroy the heavyweight division, but I feel that might be worth it if it finally silenced Dana hyper glazing Jones. Both Dana and Jones are just becoming talking heads at this point and we need to see action no matter who it is from. I feel Dana and Jones are becoming like Conor McGregor in terms of talk but no action along with Stipe going along with it all is harming the heavyweight division than even Jones losing to Stipe would ever be. Honestly, if Jones lost to Stipe somehow and someway, it would be almost warranted, because the UFC fan base is almost in unanimous agreement that Dana and Jones are becoming just annoying to hear just to have Jones not fight while he sit ls at the top. Anyone else would have been stripped of the title of it wasn’t Dana covering for Jones. Champs have been stripped for much less in the past. Heck, after Nick Diaz got a 5 year suspension for marijuana while others got way less for actual PEDs, that was all any of us needed to hear to know that even the UFC is bought and paid for.
UFC wants to make money off the stipe and jones fight, I get it , sucks but this is business after all
Jones vs stipe is happening in November in Madison square garden
Thanks for the video, MMA JOEY
@11:35 LMFAO poor stipe
Man, Ngannou did Dana dirty 😂😂
I’d love to see Alex fight Aspinall or any heavy weight to become the first triple champ just for shits and giggles I thi no Aspinall and jones take him down and beat him though but ya never know
Idk if you have seen my other comments but they have been mean and very critical of you, this video right here I couldn’t agree with more though. You absolutely hit the nail on the head with this far as having the exact same option as me. Fuck jon jones is not pound for pound anymore sorry.
Boxing is kinda coming back thanks to Saudi while the UFC is dying in my eyes. I dont give a shit about WWE 2.0. Dana should just gtfo and take Jones with him for his power slapping bs so he can have the greatest power slapper of all time, and let Campbell run the UFC.
24:52 20 months minus the 6 it took Jon to actually heal meaning 14 months total
No we still waited 20 months
i forgot the heavyweight division even existed.
Agree. It sucks.
Stipe loses his belt to Ngannou so now all of a sudden he doesn't deserve to fight for the belt again? Dude gave us great wins over the years prior to his 2nd Ngannou fight.
Not saying he don't deserve a instant rematch but there is someone that has the interim title and that suppose to make you the undisputed number one contender for the undisputed title and when the champion returns the interim title will be stripped because it was only a place holder. Tom literally is going to defend his interim title this month something that shouldn't happen. If Stipe want to fight Jon first he should've beat Tom for the interim title first, that just seem fair. If Stipe get the shot first I hope the mma fans do not buy the ppv or tickets to show their displeasure.
What was that 4 years ago??
He hasn't fought in 3 years.
Stipe gets flatlined 3 years ago, hasn't won a fight in 4 years, and all of the sudden he deserves a titleshot over THE INTERIM CHAMPION Tom Aspinall?
Also I don't buy this bullshit that Stipe is the heavyweight GOAT. Francis Ngannou is, and Jones basically waited for him to leave.
@RowKing2323 he got an instant rematch when he got knocked out by dc. he isnt entitled to an instant rematch everytime he is finished. that's crazy
GOD BLESS AMERICA✝️🇺🇸
The only winner in Stipe vs Jones is Stipe, Jones, and Dana. The fans lose out and they have a right to voice about it since it could be prevented.
11:41 Hilarious. Folks keeps cooking. Would be tough running into Stipe after some of these statements though.
Who is Aaron Howard... grappling. ?? It's one of Stipe losses ..that isn't in the UFC.
Joey you've got to see Jaxxon podcast with Stipe........
I remember when people didn't even know that Miocic was the long time champ back then
Dana's handling of this situation is a disgrace. Stipe has made it perfectly clear that he only cares about fighting Jon and does not care about the belt. Jon could fight Tom then win or loose, fight Stipe. Dana has thrown out any semblance of meritocracy in dedication to playing flying monkey to Jon. I really hope that if Alex gets an offer to fight Jon before Tom, he turns it down.
Stipe Can’t Even Speak 😮
Look Good on PED GOAT Junkie Jones if Stipe Wins 😂
Hey Joey love your videos bro. I’m a new subscriber! Keep it up
the w of jones vs stepe faces Aspinall? hey bro Aspinall has to go over Blades first.
BOYCOTT THE PPV
PED GOAT vs Washed Up Old Man,
Nah, I think they're protecting Jones from Aspinall, not the other way around.