SEIKO relaunches the classic SNXS series! But at WHAT Price?!?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 เม.ย. 2024
- SEIKO has just announced it is relaunching its SNXS series for 2024, official reference SRPK, under the Seiko 5 Sports line.
Three colourways are available with the 4R36 movement, higher price tags and the same dimensions as the old model. Did they really need to bother? Is it blatant profiteering? - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
Much debate! For CLARIFICATION I am NOT saying these new watches are not better than the original seiko 5. I'm sure the quality and spec is slightly better.
My point is that this isn't what the 'Seiko 5' was. It was a simple, rugged affordable entry point to automatic watches. There are many others competing in the £300-400 space but were very few competing with the original Seiko 5
I agree the price is too high (~$400 in the US), but I do think there are three solid upgrades: 100 M of water resistance (up from 30 m), the 4R movement with hacking and handwriting, and the bracelet (the old one was dreadful). And of course we've seen a lot of inflation in the past 4 years. I think it should be priced similar to the SPRE ("Dress KX") watches around $275-300 max. I'm also wondering whether the watch will sit lower, as some of the marketing materials suggest it might (there are no photos showing the back, however). I back of the SNXS juts out and the lugs don't bend down. Makes the profile of the watch look like a UFO. I think as with most Seikos we will see 25% discounts fairly soon. So the £340 will be down to £260 or so, and in the US $300.
Blue one looks amazing, what they should have done is increase the size to 38mm-39mm, put screw down crown, and slap sapphire glass on top of the dial. If it could be purchased between 200-300 euros it would be amazing. I love the chapter ring as well. For money that they are asking you can get sapphire, screw down crown, and miyota 9000 series movement so basically they are asking for too much.
100%
Basically what I've just bought, Island watch brookville about £350 with taxes and delivery, only thing missing is the day wheel but date is at 6 making it nice and symetrical.
37mm is good. I would even want it in 36mm. There are tons of 38-42mm. I never liked anything over 40mm. The trend before was bigger watches and that is why we have an ocean of 40-42mm watches. It's good that the trend now is smaller watches. I would want to see many offerings on 36-37mm.
Maybe steep. But I'd rather pay that much for the new seiko 5 than pay for a comparably priced moonswatch that looks like it could be found free in a happy meal or cereal box.
Haha. Yes..
I got the chance to try them on yesterday and I have to say that they look fantastic up close and fit just as beautifully. The bracelet is a nice step up, as are the dial and case finishing. The champagne dial was especially impressive. Add in the improved movement over the original and it did feel like it was worth, if not full MSRP, what we'll actually be able to purchase them for.
What is the Water Resistance on these new ones?
OK....let's see. Thanks for this
Was always 100m on the old so likely as good
@@matricious Seiko 5s are all 100m across the range
The snxs was 30m so this is a big improvement
In Australia they are about $650. Same price as Turtles etc. I’m still gonna buy one but I’ll wait till the price drops a bit.
Yes Seikos are best pre owned or a year on I'd say. The 60s series presage launched last year have a few offers now
The Perfect Wrist, This is awesome! I subscribed because I want to see more!
Can't ask for more than this!!
Now I am really happy, that I bought last year the old version…
I got my SNKS77 about 6 years ago brand new in the box off ebay for £30, when the softlex got a bit scratched it's now got double domed sapphire with AR and a much better bracelet, came to about £100 all told. Loved it from day one but a truly fabulously thing now. All watch prices have shot up recently so if you want one of the new ones it compares ok with the competition, but grab an old 7s26 powered one if you can.
Totally. A domed crystal adds huge appeal. Thanks
I have Seiko 5 SNZJ53k1. Nice big watch 43mm I bought for $150 back in 2015. These new Seikos with sideways 5 logo look bit off to me.
i have several of the old style seiko 5 watches acquired mainly in the 1990s and in their day they were great value and along with the citizen eagle 7 were the only affordable mechanical watches you could get during the 80s/90s as virtually everything was quartz.theres a lot more alternatives now,so the upgrade is long overdue.i'm actually surprised seiko have even done this tbh.
Yes many other options now. Thanks
So finally they try to catch up with Citizen Eagle 7 in functionalities😂. i would still skip them as long as they use that UFO (from sides) profile, which is sad since the old 7000 and snk series fits me well.
While I heard swaping the snx caseback with old 7000 solid caseback remedy it somewhat, its too much of a hassle.
I love the look of the new ones. I know they are pricy but I will have to pick one up
Mmmm.....I think there's lots of options around these prices
That is interesting. I’ve been keeping a eye on one of the older ‘5s’, but I’m not prepared to pay the £130-140, it’s often advertised at. The newer 5 range don’t have a model I’m particularly keen on, £260ish retail? So asking £350 for this latest reissue seems a bit steep.
Yes, personally I think the old ones are screaming value . Get while you can
Great video.
I have to ask, did you put the handset on your older grey SNX?
Looks very nice, but not original.
Looks good doesn't it. The last owner did this mod and thankfully didn't wreck any movement. Keeps great time.
what exact model name is on 0:55? under snxs79 I can't find this model?
It is the seiko 5 snxs079. Mine has modified handset. The OG comes with standard hands and is the sunburst Grey dial
Nice watch. Good review. Keep up the good work. 👍
I would have thought RRP or around 300 rather than 400, which would have been more in keeping woth the dresskx price but seiko are known to not increase the price of a model once its set so inflation will play a role in the price increase. Still this is an obvious step up in finishing from the dresskx considering the application of mirror finishing. Its also a huge step up from the snxs (as an snxs79 owner) - finishing, bracelet, water resistance, ergonomics all miles better.
Seiko bashers dont know what theyre talking about. They haven't even held the watch and are just bashing at this point because it's their raison d'etre
Good to get feedback. Am assuming you've had one in hand. I love Seiko but find very little to complain about the existing snxs and wonder if we needed slightly more for 3x the price
@@perfectwrist23 I ended up modding mine with a curved crystal, strap and slimmer case back. I bought the watch for about £120 and ended up spending another £100 to do all that. So the upgrades made it a £220 watch. This new one has a curved crystal, a bracelet that won't need to be swapped, ergonomics that don't make it look like it's standing on stilts, useful water resistance and better finishing and movement. There's no need to pay RRP for the new ones when they will be readily reduced by 20-30% at which point you will be paying about £240. Which ends up making it about £20 more expensive all in.
Not seen anything from any of the bigger subs uk channels on this yet. So a great scoop, well done. May be because it doesn’t involve Rolex, AE or San Martin? Just saying🤔
Yes. The European lad '24hrs at a time' also found it I think. Thanks !
I think a really important point here that people fail to understand is that SEIKO does not ever increase the list price of a watch once it's been released.
For example the srpe53 DresSKX was released in 2020 at £260 RRP.
That same £260 is worth £320 in today's money yet SEIKO has not changed the RRP to reflect this.
The new SNXS at £340 therefore makes perfect sense and not just that it means that brand new Seikos become better and better value as the years go on!
Interesting point...but the older ones are still available retail...
@@perfectwrist23 yes but they are grey market watches. The Seiko 5 line has also taken a huge step forward in terms of quality since then. The finishing on the old SNXS is similar to AliExpress brands like steeldive (I own an SD1970). The new 5 models like the skx GMT, field gmt etc are finished to a way higher standard.
Yes but they do the job perfectly as an introductory automatic watch which was their purpose. Cheap, fun and rugged. These new ones are undoubtedly a step up in quality, but maybe no longer a 'Seiko 5'. At this price you have a lot of alternatives to consider. You didn't with the old 5s
@@perfectwrist23 this is true, the Seiko 5 line is trying to move up the ladder. Thankfully for those that still want the old ones they still seem to be pumping them out too.
There is of course more "value" to be found with Chinese homages but they are just that - fake homages. I think the 5 line is really competing against entry level micro brands so they are probably priced as such. They seem to be happy milking the Chinese watch market by selling movements to the AliExpress brands as well so I guess they still profit in that regard 🤷🏽♂️
@@pk1342 Totally agree. Plus Seiko's distributes through traditional retail channels (watch dealers and department stores), so needs to provide profit margins for the retailers. They sell the watches to the dealers at ~50-60% of RRP. Meanwhile, the Chinese brands sell via Aliexpress and most microbrands direct to consumer online, which is why the prices are lower. No middle man. Seiko has moved up market a bit because they can't compete on price given their business model. And they actually have to invest in developing new watch designs and watch components.
Further proof (if it was needed) that Seiko RRP is a piss take. The recent excessive price hikes & seemingly endless QC issues have really left a bad taste in my mouth. I don't currently own (with the exception of a GS) any Seiko's & have no intentions of buying one.
Yep....mine are a mixed bag but generally positive as good second hand purchases
Call me a conservative, but I prefer the old one. Not because of the price but they seem to have more „soul“. By the way, my five after swapping out the crystal for a domed sapphire with antireflective coating looks now very elevated.b🕐⚙️🍸
Domed crystals make a huge difference. I'll almost not consider a watch without one now
Motivates me to buy an old school 5 for 80-120€ :D I really kinda waited for seiko to bring back the fun collectibility ...... not at almost 400 bucks.. thait aint it.... sorry Seiko.
I bet the original had a steep price at the beginning. You cant go wrong with a Seiko, and the prices drops after a while! You get a manufacture calibre that is reliable for a small amount of cash. And fck, people pay more for the crap that is MoonSwatch/Blancpain collabs
Yes, but the old Seiko 5 was a way in to automatic watches. That option has gone from Seiko now
All I wanted was a grey sunburst dial SNXS79 upgrade, and they couldn't even do that. I was about to pull the trigger on a SPB243 but that gross cream/aged Lume color they use ruins the watch for me. Seiko keeps making horrible design choices so I'm just sticking to the SNXS79.
Even the new Proxspex divers ruin the grey dial version with trashy gold accents.
Yep..
Snowflake?
Get the bloody watch in hand before you slag it off mate. I bought one and it is MILES better than that old tinfoil SNXS hair puller bracelet shite.
Mines never pulled hair. You certainly sound so pleased with it! The point of the video is that the affordable seiko 5 entry point has now gone and there is so much competition at the £300+ level
Seiko started inflating their prices across all ranges in 2019 while simultaneously reducing the level of quality. Now the bulk of their production is focused on massively overpriced, poor quality watches with mediocre movements. The continued use of their rubbish hardlex crystal adds insult to injury, especially when there are much higher quality builds (with seiko movements) from San Martin et al. Only a fool would buy a new Seiko these days.
Yep. I have some AliExpress gems , all well regulated movements, Sapphire etc etc... many Seiko cases made in China I believe so strange
I will probably be the fool then. Would still buy Seiko over San Martin.
1 I can see before I lay money down any obvious QC issues.
2 Should an issue arise during the guarantee period, I can easily take it back to the store & have a conversation.
3 Decent discounts are available at many of the UK outlets that sell Seiko watches, bringing it close to being, not a piss take. Probably still more than ideally one would like to pay, but not a deal beaker.
Yes, you can't beat Seiko at the right price
Those are Tudor dial hands, they look amazing but it is a mod that looks better than the original
Yes it was done by previous owner