What Is Consciousness? Is there more life in the Universe? Sam Harris & Brian Greene
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Sam Harris & Brian Greene - Toronto - Sept 5th 2018
For the first time ever, Sam Harris & Brian Greene sit down for a conversation. They discuss science, reason, AI & more. - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
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I could listen to Sam all day long. Thanks for sharing 👍
Thx🎉
Thanks a ton
@@D-Pocalypseas long as nobody brings up Trump. Sam is likely to blow a fuse if someone mentions Trump.
@@planetbizzaro1839What's Trump got to do with the meaning of Life?
nothing like a couple of civilized dudes discussing reality without interrupting each other
Ok
Agreed. Nothing more annoying than two people talking over each other during debates
They're mutually confused.
@@saxon8981 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@nyworker Haha! Possibly!
This was great! Keep these discussions coming 👍👍
More to come!
1:14:30 - What a great question! You tied everything together so well and it was a question that deserved an answer!
Please enable subtitles.
Love them both. It was a fantastic conversation. Thanks, guys.
"Oh, the Burden I Bear: Climaxing to visions of Doom" The Exhalations of Sam B Harris. Chapter 1: Heavy is the Head : "As if awakening from an inauspicious dream, I remained motionless, naked and without hope; a single tear streaming down my quivering cheek. I couldn't remember the last time I cried. I wasn't sure if it was still possible, yet there it was. If water could still spring from such stony substrate, then what else is possible? These questions continued to incite my synapses into revolt. How could this future be prevented if we have no choice in the matter? How can any destiny be averted if even our will is not our own? And perhaps most importantly, who but I? Who but I?
Two of my favorite minds together.
Nice to see these two up there together... Studied them... Where's Tononi? Anyway, where you leave off with questions to the public I have the remainder of your hour for simply the lead into 1 new theoretical framework. Been trying to ask the wrong groups over my life... Retail, Sales, War, PHD humans, general public... Say I am always over their head. This was literally the backdrop to my work... What do I do next?
Oh, and how I love Brian
Greene - an exhalation of fresh breath straight from the cosmos. There's a certain air about this man! (No punt intended). Lol...
I admire the elegance in which he delivers his communications. I've been following him for a few years now, and wow - how he has educated me; yet, he has so widened my mental horizon - and never even paid a dime for this. MR. Greene is òne of the most impressive human constructs that has provided me with so much joy in this process of entanglement. I greatly appreciate and thank you kindly as well - Professor Greene; for everything you have taught me. Que viva Columbia University!
Fondly,
Sylvia Casaus
P/S: 🌵N.M. loves the Universe! ✨
Finally, (forgot to include this in my prior comment moments ago):
Brian Greene reminds me of one of my favorite quotes as follows:
"We come spinning out of nothingness scattering stars like dust."
-Rumi
One of the best presentations on TH-cam. Brian's hand gestures become a part of the information shared creating more than an audio talk. More.
Would you mind elaborating a bit more about what the gesticulations added to the dialogue?
He definitely moves his hands a lot , it's a great persuasion trick .... hold your hands high etc
Awesome discussion, thanks!
When was this filmed? looks like an older recording....
2018 looks like
I enjoyed this. Harris is fairly knowledgeable about philosophy, and Greene is a science educator with an emphasis on physics (Like Neil Degrasse Tyson). As other commenters have observed, they were both polite.
I really enjoy hearing both these guys speak their minds
complex,interesting and at the same time true search of truth in a conversation between 2 individuals.not the stale ugly nonsense being pushed down our throats by the pretentious corporate scumbagery...i see what you mean
For the fermi paradox i think that there is a basic assumption that is not justified. Basically we think that as soon as a species becomes intelligent it Will build spaceships and explore space just because it is what we do. Other civilisations could be intelligent and not interested in going into deep space. It would be like asking why all tall people dont play basketball ? Being tall does not mean you Will want to play basketball and being intelligent does not mean you will want To travel in space.
One thing about life as we know it on earth is that there is an instinct of self preservation. It may be wrong to assume that about what could be considered life extra terrestrially… but if one gains enough intelligence as to realize it is kind of a sitting duck, the most reasonable thought to me is that if you wish to keep your species alive, you must at some point at least have the thought of becoming space baring. The point is that being stuck in one place becomes a waiting game for extinction.
@@AstralTrickster I can agree with the self preservation instinct but it will only force a species to find alternative solutions within the realm of what they know. For a long time humans on earth thought that the sky was like a solid ceiling in a house and didnt even think this is something we can go through. So before the time of Galileo even if something dramatic was about to happen on earth and to survive they would think of going underground and that's all could have thought about. I dont think we want to argue that a species is intelligent only if it is aware of what space is.
Such a cool conversation
And none of the audience's questions were annoying or embarrassing, at least from my perspective.
The owner has every right not let critics in his establishment. It may not be good for business, but you never know what is really going on. I ran a restaurant business for many years, you can’t please everyone, I had a loyal clientele , and I catered to them, they gave me honest feedback and advice , I had no problem adjusting. 3 golden rules
1. Treat everyone how you would like to be treated, respect and listen
2. Freshest ingredients and competitive pricing
3. Treat employees with respect and pay them
Haha, this golden, I love the juxtaposition between the tenants
Wow guys good job love it
I didn't realize David dukovny and Ben Stiller were so intelligent.
Thanks for this
Two of the best guys in the world. Love them 👍
Thank you!😊
Just a thought but do you think its possible black holes have been placed strategically in sentrorl locations in order to through gravity alteration slow time in a specific area? Maybe that's why we can't find the missing gravity.
No.
Omg.. please do arrange few more meetings.. please!
This is amazing
They been here forever...🔥
Amazing content for sure! 💯
Sam does Jesus smuggling at 29 minutes.
A new record for Sam.
That phrase doesn't mean what you think
@@edga69 It's a 🤣
I think he's in love, personally.
I'm not a mathematician, but I have a feeling that with standard mathematics, we won't be able to Describe a Theory of Everything ! So sucha formula must be simple it must be fractal-final, recursive go in a circle and its result must be divisible by zero
Take A Moment The meaning of life the universe andeverything = 42.
Arthur Dent knows Hitchhiker's guidet othegalaxy explains really Relax and enjoy the life we know we have
Stay Safe
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Very reasonable
Sam 👏
Thx my friend ❤️
That was mind expanding, thank you.🙃🙏
Everyone name their favorite mind expanding fact you learned!
@@jfryk
1:03:00 the red dot experiment that happens with animals also happens to humans when they're drunk.
I hate nitpicking, but could not resist fact checking the billion-dolar-by-the-end-of-the-month claim (25:49) and sadly found Brian not to be correct: accumulated amount by the end of the 31st day is 16 million; we get to one billion at the end of day 37.
Again, I agree that what he says is correct in the spirit and this is pedantic, but better to have your math right when making a claim for its shock effect.
46:25 About the electron location possibility that just goes away not being compatible with the math... What about equations that have solutions that contain imaginary numbers, or equations that contain multiple solutions, some of which you've measured and some of which have no apparent meaning... Do those solutions represent something in reality, or they just artifacts of bad math constructs? i.e. Is it possible that the electron location possibility actually does go away and we just haven't come up with an accurate math construct that shows this?
Edit: Nvm, watched a little more and Brian pretty much says we haven't found the correct math construct yet.
Great attitude Brian
The problem is, Harris thinks there are ultimate, and desirable, honest ways of being through science and reason. Greene has no such ambitions for science and reason.
In other words, Harris wants science to do things to solve problems that Greene doesn't think science can do by its very nature. Science doesn't solve problems of human behavior. Indeed, science is always utterly provisional in its conclusions. Scientists spend a lot of time trying to falsify their own conclusions. So they don't really ever talk the same language.
I feel like Sam be watching Rick and Morty 😂
This was the most enjoyable video I've watched on YT in a long time. I get the feeling, though, that Brian Greene doesn't particularly like Sam Harris. I began feeling that after Harris made his joke about hitting with a carrot, which may have offended Greene.
What does YT refer to?
@@echowentz5717youtube
agree - watched it last year - doubt BG will chat with Sam again anytime soon
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@@echowentz5717 TH-cam
It would be cool to have some dinner with conversation pasta!
🍝 👀--{What the hell is that?!)
I'm the cane horise mystic but I love me some science and Anthropology edits😝 Hafiz Out💨🌹
There should never be a discussion of the Fermi Paradox/Problem without mentioning Grabby Aliens, which basically answers the question.
Sam doesn't use his hands at all when talking and Brian uses his enough for both of them lol.
I question whether self policing science is still the norm today.
Its not the 'Answer', but its the 'Question' which is right there always in front of you - once you see the 'Question', you will see the 'Answer'
Okeydoke.
Brian Greene is a good man.
And thorough.
Absolutely positively there are endless universe's.
"Universe's" what?
@@smark1180 Unbelievable hey but true.
@@terry1892 My comment went over your head.
Another possibility: EM communication is primitive and after a short development period, most civilizations begin communicating with neutrino beams or gravitational waves or whatever else.
You're correct. I'm sure Brian knows this & didn't delve into that since his point was that for ~150 yrs we've been able to only send/receive radio (electromagnetic/EM) signals. So our ability to detect, and our detectability by far civilizations, has always been extremely minuscule. Neutrinos & gravitational waves may not be the solution you think they are. Neutrinos are like lasers, so require extremely focused/aimed beams. You lose the signal easily due to angular drift. Gravitational waves are extremely inefficient (energy-wise) since they radiate omnidirectionally (so even a "narrow beam" will diverge spatially/angularly thus exponentially weakening the sent/received signal).
1:15:00 maybe out of breath just speaking is more an issue than quantum mechanic but yea..
Animals surely fully understand. See no money, schools or churches in the wild. Eat or be eaten. Real simple relativity 😊
Life is one In origin ,if there's any life in this cosmos it shares the same origins no matter what dimension it inhabits.
Sam is so goddamn intelligent it’s crazy
He's well honed in his arguments. He's a good study in preparation and great example of critical thinking.
@@nyworker the way he picks up his opponent’s arguments and debunks them is incredibly impressive
@@elgrek0249 Arguments for faith are easy to construct. As a theist I have no problem with Sam because in any debate, his thesis that we can build a world community on rationalism is being played out right now. The human sociology is still very mysterious since we are only touching on how human minds work and coalesce into community's. I would love to discuss this rather than debate with Sam.
😂
I find him intelligent, but more than Greene? No.
Wait isn’t this the channel that collapsed after failing to refund a whole lot of people for cancelled events or something?
Take A Moment.
Family
Friends, Comrades etc.
Morality is not a god thing.
We know good from bad, right from wrong again with no god's required.
Get Free
Stay Safe and
Stay Free 🌎The universe doesn't care about this specific pin prick, on which we live and die.
Thx god's 😢
Mental
The guest's and are the reason that dedates, such as this are vital today, Sept 2023, in Calgary
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Thank again, The Founder of this event, excellent.
What we know. Science. What you think you know. Religion
Hi grant.
Thanks for your comment, it expresses a lovely starting point for discussion.
Do you know that some 'Science' is philosophical story that transplants the religious sense into current society?
and
Western religious beliefs stem from philosophical planning, especially from Plato's laws.
...
Bottom line in simplicity: many believers, in religion and Science ... are deceived by the same philosophical planning and methods.
Some 'Science' is like a new Jesus - upgraded and genre transitioned.
sincerely and with respect
david
Ah yes, yet another example of the gnu atheists' binary thinking.
May be it’s just me but I find it funny how people sit. They are sitting one leg up
Was this filmed on a potato?
It is written "all is vanity "
@@MaiNaime-pk6hq All is vanity
The universe could be teaming with intelligent life but we're seeing it as it was thousands, and millions of lightyears ago. We only invented agriculture 9 thousand years ago. There could be neighbouring civilisations but we're all separated by distance it take light to reach each other
And then they call *me* insane...
Have Jordan Peterson and Brian Greene ever shared a stage together? I wonder if a symphony would spontaneously start playing? 🤔
Peterson is a fake!
48:50 there is only fuzzy wuzzy fields
Ello from Greenland
Hello from Wales!
@@Neil-Daimond Nice LOL
Brian Greene in conversation with the next Pope
Lets all pray...... I mean meditate.
Amen
Looking for intelligent life in the universe is like trying to find a specific catipeller hiding under a specific leaf on a specific tree in a forrest, from the other side of the planet. As Earths oceans, mountains and forrests are sprinkled with souls that didnt make the journey.. the universe is likely litered with dead alien astronauts making their way to a nearby star in a spent spacectaft.
yep.... contact this far our on a spiral arm is essentially impossible. We'd have to build a Gen Ship, travel for 23 million years across the quadrant, just to find ruins of an extinct species that barely invented the wheel in a star system 34,000 lightyears away... People dont seem to understand TIME or SPACE. lol
if you read the book, The Mote in God's Eye, there is a dead alien astronaut in a spent spacecraft adrift just like you described. LOL
Einstein did not just theorize that the universe was full of mathematics.
Einstein theorized that the universe was full of gravity that bent the heavens and formed time.
What theory of everything is time. Time is everything and everything is time. For example, time equals energy and energy equals mass times the speed of light squared, no space, no heaven. Read more nonfiction. Check your linguistics. Check your semantics. Time is the fabric of the universe. What is your age? No star no growth. What are you breathing? No star no oxygen. Oxygen is consciousness. Don’t test nature by holding your breath. Breathe.
The realization that human beings are not fully rational and can never fully agree on almost anything that requires a large number of agreement as in politics, science, and religion. Conflict is the norm and social interaction reflects that.
Voyager has travelled around 19 light hours or so.
If we are guided by our morals not to prosecute heinous acts does that mean that every single person is consumed by the same desires as a person such as Hitler but is just holding them at bay?
You can break it down into 2 simple world views. One world view is that things started simple and somehow progressively got more specified, complex, and organised, over time somehow from unguided natural processes, natural selection being the most commonly touted, and genetic mutations and so on. The other worldview is that the world in some sense started out highly ordered and perfect, intelligently created, and then corruption entered part of the system, as far as humans are concerned, and things have since then degenerated and are still running down, especially the human race, which is basically one interpretation of the Biblical worldview. There are many other worldviews in between these two opposites, both various religious views, and so-called non-religious views which are not religious at least in the more traditional sense but perhaps are in other ways. So scientifically we want to try and deduce which worldview has lesser or more degrees of superstition, that is, ideas about nature in the present time that disagree with experiment. Not untestable ad hoc excuses, such as appealing to lots of time or an imagined multiverse of infinite actualities, but some observably real phenomena that can be subjected to scientific experimentation. There are currently natural laws and regularities that seemingly cannot be broken or violated, which legitimizes science. One that has sometimes been the most contentious of them is the second law of thermodynamics, an apparent law that has never been found wrong under any circumstances. Does it therefore also apply to genetic codes, even over vast timescales? It seems highly likely. Creationists generally believe that, while evolutionists do not want to. But it has always agreed with experiment, and all relevant observations. While there are a lot of anecdotal viewpoints on both opposing sides about what the fossil evidence and the DNA evidence represents, the experimental evidence is very definitively in favour of the creationist view, at least in this one regard. Scientists most certainly are witnessing degeneration in some populations and family groups. These are facts, not confirmation bias, and facts don't care about anyone's feelings. To ignore this evidence, is to be unscientific, even antiscientific. In cosmology there is "the past hypothesis", that, according to the second law of thermodynamics, the universe began existing in a more organized state. Science points us that way, but it cannot say how or why, a fact that might possibly remain beyond the reach of science, and only be subject to faith based explanations, if any.
Scientistism' fixed it.😊
Aw damn, I was with Brian until he said "Particle configurations must repeat". transcendental numbers prove infinities do not need to repeat. Einstein tile, infinite but does not repeat.
Then your task is to show that nature allows the infinite, that these are not just mathematical abstractions. If anything, that seems to be on shaky ground, and we certainly cannot observe that infinity.
If I were to amend it to "particle configurations that are indiscernable to us must necessarily repeat", is that a problem still?
@@landsgevaer That wasn't my initial line of thinking, but that may be closer to how Brian meant it, and that is far more interesting!
String theory progress and religious beliefs are hard to tell the difference. Without test or useful predictions means it is of low value. The interesting temperature is 300K and the interesting energy scale is the 1 eV and the most interesting molecules are made with carbon.
It's not a fair comparison as the big world religions are "evil" and lazy but at least string theorists are putting work, trying and in general giving a shit. Religion should be destroyed as fast as possible by any means required, I favor eugenics by any means required.
We haven't been visited by aliens because the Xagat's Guide has only given Earth a One Quasar Rating.
"A habitated planet with oceans full of plastics and melting ice caps. While visiting avoid Area 51 and maintain the invisibilty shield at all times."
The relational quantum mechanics of Carlo Rovelli makes the most sense.
To you
Brian is trying really hard not to show how bored he is with Harris' musings.
I don't know when this discussion took place, I sense it was a while back. But concerning the question of "could computers become so complicated that we would not understand nor could describe their actions?" the answer is, "yes, and that happened about 6 months ago, with the release of GPT4." That is one of the KEY issues we are having with the LLM development. First, it develops itself, all we do is feed it. Then second, we don't know how it works when we are using it because we did not create it, and we cannot interrogate it. And then third, and more troubling, the emergent properties of apparent intelligence were not there in the initial training, and should not be there in the weights. So where does GPT4 intelligent behavior come from? Clearly, it emerges from the entire construct, from start to finish, exactly like all other forms of intelligence emerge from a process. Put simply, we do not, and likely cannot ever, understand it. Any more than we "understand" where human or animal intelligence comes from. The computer now exceeds our ability to understand and predict its behavior. That phase is now behind us. We do not know what comes next, except we know that whatever it is, we cannot stop it.
They can't just, you know, delete the fsoftware or "unplug" the thing? I don't know the details on this specific AI. I just mean..... "we cannot stop it" is a bold statement.
@@jessereichbach588 I'm not the one saying you can't turn it off. The engineers know they can't turn it off. There is no "it". These models are data, they are scattered across thousands of servers running in huge data centers. The models are worth billions of dollars. You do not delete $10 billion without consequences. So yeah, these things are very nearly immortal.
@@TheMrCougarful Ahh so it's non localized.
Much more difficult to deal with. But not necessarily impossible. OH there would no doubt be consequences for obliterating billions of dollars of information no doubt.
But you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes, billions or no billions lol.
I'd say "highly improbable" would be most accurate. But yea, might as well be impossible from a practical standpoint.
It sounds like it's as "immortal" as civilization. As long as Civilization goes on, and the electric grids remain, and the servers remain up and running, then it can function. But without us, it would eventually extinguish if say, we went technology free somehow, catastrophe or whatever. Shut down all the grids, etc... Then it would likely expire.
It would basically have to on its own manufacture robots to do manual labor and maintain the infrastructure that humans currently maintain. And then it would have to manufacture at plants, as we do today. But keep the machinery operating and fixed when needed. It's not just a matter of software in that sense. But yea. It's a box not easily closed.
@@jessereichbach588 Exactly. Like a parasite dug into the host so deep, that excision kills both.
Exactly, bc AI will be put in charge of watching over financial transactions around the world and all types of currency.
The takeaway is - Brian does not like Sam by the end of the debate.
Very hard to like a righteous rationalist !!!!!!
Very few people actually "like" Sam after meeting him, I'm sure. They may tolerate him, and let him speak. But "like"? I wouldn't bet on it.
Sam has a rambling style of answering questions sometimes where he just goes on for 10 minutes when it could've been a 30 second answer, and I felt Brian's annoyance at that towards the end
@@m74d3 I also think Brian detected a certain narrowness of perception and mind from Sam. Which I would say is hard not to notice sometimes. A need for material affirmation, and affirmation of self. He just wants someone to pat him on the head and tell him how bright he is.
Whereas I think Brian is totally ok with just saying, I have no clue and I don't worry about it too much.
@@MaiNaime-pk6hq how can you have gotten that from this? You must have been watching a completely different clip.
Yes, ego is one of the biggest stumbling blocks. Like how you are now displaying your hurt ego prominently. I didn't know anything about Greene coming into this, and close to nothing about Harris for that matter.
But after watching this, and reading some of the comments, its' very clear Harris has some dedicated fan boys who's ego's are hurt........ and who have their heads SO far up his narcissistic behind, yes narcissistic, that it's blatant ego whining.
Both of these men have ego. Certainly. But Harris is clearly more of a narcissist just based on behavior displayed. And clearly, his fan boys are just as narcissistic and can't see passed their own narcissism.
The cognitive dissonance and projection you are now displaying are hallmarks of a hurt ego.
great talk but I'm surprised nobody asks about psychedelics to these two great minds pondering on nature of reality and consciousness. I mean it cuts right through both of their profession
I'd have Brian Greene talk with the super intelligent aliens 💯 Or maybe Carl Sagan
I had to immediately comment after the flex about humans being so smart because we can calculate out to 10 decimals. My immediate thought was that since we can only see less than .003% on the light spectrum, there are likely far more intelligent beings around us that we don't have the capacity to see, and they look at us like dogs in the chair, saying to themselves, "How cute, they think they're smart because they can do quantum physics out to 10 decimals" 🤣
👍👍Hi. We are being progressively fooled by a narrative of narcissistic antagonism.
Why play off scientific data and the resurrection, as Harris does? The resurrection isn't a scientific question, but a metaphysical and a historical one. Indeed, the claim is that there exists a God who upholds material reality -- including the laws of nature -- that has "suspended" the normal processes of material reality to raise a particular individual from the dead. Now, this might be wrong -- but it isn't wrong because "science" has somehow disproved it.
1:42:00. Imagine the world of happy animals that Sam creates. Someday these animals develop language and thought. They eventually write a bible and preach that although they eventually suffer death that this is still a good world created by an all knowing Sam.....
Then ALL bow down! as his Want🤑
Perhaps the clever aliens are clever enough to stay at home, rather than spend 15 lifetimes to visit a dumb rock.
Everythng exists, and we are just following one specific branch of reality that is continuously branching off into what becomes our lives.
Thats the only way Quantum Entanglement makes sense and the only way the Double Slit Experiment & Quantum Erasure Experiments make sense.
yeah well... look at the trees man..
Greene is the typical ‘I love my life, everything is what I want it to b.’ Some hard work, some luck, but neither is the point. Its just ‘Everything looks great from my house, so whats the problem??’
Well, u could solve problems (outside of physics) in the world if u could see past ur own expertise. Instead, he seems to have an arrogant self centeredness that goes way beyond career confidence.
Its like someone being so smart they fail to see their own faults.
Perhaps he sees his shortcomings and knows to stay in his lane.
🤔
Infinite Jesus in the many world interpretation of quantum theory… hahahahaha😂
I'm thoroughly going to enjoy this I'm sure!
But to start 4 mins in. You are saying it's amazing how we can comprehend and calculate things such as an electron to the 10 billionth place. But isn't that just because it's something we understand. Imagine an ape. He'd argue he has such a vivid understanding of his own life and science. He doesn't know what he doesn't know. .
Maybe we are still extremely primitive in the complexity of the universe.
The apes could measure to as minute as his finger width! It might be just perspective there.
Telepathy didn't quite make it this evening.
WOW! For someone who believes in the "carrot" approach, Greene sure does bring out the "stick" early and often against Harris!!... not that there is anything wrong with that. 😊😊
Eh 😒 …..he is certainly fond of himself. Lol
@@friedricengravy6646 Which one of these gentlemen isn't fond of the sound of their own voice?
@@jessereichbach588 I see/hear a huge difference between Harris & Greene.
@@friedricengravy6646 really? That suggests Greene is the more narcissistic of the two? Or if not narcissistic, whatever, intermediary term for likes himself a lot? Because Harris seems like a complete narcissist to me. I'm willing to accept that both are. But if I had to pick one being more so, it would be Harris.
Part of the issue is that Green understands a great deal more about physics and the material world and theoretical math than does Harris. Hariss who mainly focuses on cognition and well, culture and politics. While Green's entire career has been focused on answering, or trying to answer these bigger questions. So I see an actual great difference in the knowledge base between the two. Greene in this case being far more well informed and versed in areas coming up in this debate. Just genuinely. The guy has been working in theoretical physics for 30 plus years.
Harris has an allergy to inference. Whereas Green is quite comfortable and used to inferring things and trusting those inferences. He has to in his line of work. There is no choice in the matter. And we know Harris is a hard materialist in that sense.
The guys question at the end is the best part of the whole talk for me, this is golden.
"Hello Sam, my question relates to your claim about our lack of free will. If this is true how do we draw the line between the incompatible nature of free will with reality as we understand it versus our lack of free will and it's irreconcilable nature with a functioning pragmatism? In other words if the most evil man we can envision is simply a darwinistic and/or environmental error who happens to inherit a concoction of variances which he did not choose, how do we finally calibrate our moral scruples on an obvious contradiction between well-being and responsibility? As an example if we were to create a pill that could cure the next kid who would potentially be Charles Whitman it seems a net positive for everyone in doing so however if we try to run the same logic with Hitler and Saddam Hussein, post atrocities, our moral edifice seems to fall right out from under our feet. Granted, such situations are anomalous, but I would argue the same logic can be applied to a lesser degree on most criminals, so I have two questions for you...."
We're Able to disAble Able and that's not Kind seans we are called manKind Abraham thought after slaughtering the sheep, isn't that right Adam? 😅
The proverbial string is not a theory. The proverbial string is human imagination. String assumption is a metaphor at best. Time, light and sound are synonymous as nature. When humans observe, light and witness a wave pattern are they calculating for sound and motion. Light and sound are aspects of time. The theory of everything is time. Time is everything and everything is time. For example, time equals energy and energy equals mass times the speed of light squared, no space. Space is science fiction. Based on human imagination. Read more non-fiction. No star no planet. No planet no atmosphere. No atmosphere no oxygen. No oxygen, no consciousness. Oxygen is the fuel for consciousness. Read more nonfiction.
The Rainbow pictures our Eternal Consciousness.
NO one have ever seen 'Life', the Being behind the Living.
'AI' is Superstition, Intelligence can NEVER be artificial.
Life is Eternal, there is NO more or less Life.
Life is an Inner Affair, it is Not 'out there'.
So Christian Brian Greene
Versus
The KING of the Christians and Next Pope Sam Harris
LOL
I think what no one realizes is that with so many more people on the planet than when Einstein produced his theories, the answer is already likely to have been produced, or at least thought of. But whos going to go thru all these scientific papers and ideas to look for the one thats right? The creator is likely someone with no popularity, who no one knows, as was the case with Einstein. I just wish the smartest people would spend more time perusing through others ideas. They might be surprised at what they find. Imagine if Max Planc had never read Einsteins papers...
If cannibalism was widely practiced among mammals we wouldn't have the "is it moral to kill animals" debate ❤✌️ 🙏
You mean canablism?
@@michaelkearney3646 yes cannibalism 🤣🤣 I should pay closer attention. Thank you
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I agree with Sam Harris when it comes to Determinism and Science and its research would not make any sense if it weren't true that every cause has an effect. The problem is how do you think about Free Will and human responsibility if you do believe in strict Determinism? I am a compatibilist and believe that we do and should assign blame and responsibility to various human behavior. To say like Sam Harris does that for example, Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot were not blameworthy and responsibile for their horrendous actions is incorrect.
Why wouldn't math be able to do that? Math is just the application of logic.