217. Thoughts on Jung

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  • @palmskrymme
    @palmskrymme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I read man and his symbols.>>>>>>>
    Jung is so magickal, so are his people. I learned about him at about the same time I read about Joseph Campbell. They changed my life, kept me from self harm. I find Jungian psychotherapy to be like spiritualism, mysterious and always changing

  • @onwalkingthewall
    @onwalkingthewall 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I really enjoyed this conversation and read a lot of Jung during my Literature degree, the ideas of accepting the scary parts of ourselves instead of cutting them off as well as projecting what we are afraid of in ourselves onto an "other" tied a lot into my main focus of monster theory where the creation of other is so central. My thesis before I put my last two classes on hold for my Master's degree was using Mary Shelley's Frankenstein and Angela Carter's Nights at the Circus to show an ongoing dialogue about identity formation and the way society creates and then discards especially female others like "the fallen woman"...anyway, thank you so much for sharing this!

  • @LouValcourt
    @LouValcourt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love Jung and his philosophy. Jungian concepts have helped me immensely. I also have read Women Who Run With the Wolves several times. It has been a touchstone for me in difficult times.

  • @merandasomnolentgamer8323
    @merandasomnolentgamer8323 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much for finally sharing this, Kelly-Ann! I'd heard of Jung before (my mom studied psychology in college) but you're the first person I've heard talk about using his ideas in spirituality and tarot. I decided that I wanted to investigate Jung's ideas firsthand, to see what kind of sense I make of them, and I've been reading his work very slowly; I find it, as you said, both delicious and difficult :) I found this video very encouraging, actually, so I'm going to press on with that project. I'd love to hear more from you on the subject, as much as you're happy to share.

  • @shonna_77
    @shonna_77 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really like the part about not identifying people with their typologies. It's so important to respect people's existential nature and to remain fluid in our perception of each other.

  • @CrisAshburn
    @CrisAshburn 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You're speaking my language, lady! I loved this video. The part about the roots connecting was a brilliant mental image. I would love to see more videos like this; I'm glad you have the editing software to be able to do them now.

  • @ThePeaceableKingdom
    @ThePeaceableKingdom 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed your discussion and hope to hear more from you on this. Jung has been a major influence on my thought, though with Jung there are many varieties of "Jung's thought." For anyone like Jung who thought seriously and publishes one's thoughts over so many years, there will be an understandable difference between "Jung's theory" of 1930 and of 1950. And Jung was sometimes - sometimes deliberately - cryptic.
    I was highly influenced by Philip Wylie, who was the foremost popularizer and English language interpreter of Jung in the 1940's, a personal friend of Jung's whom Jung endorsed explicitly then, but who had a falling out in later years. Wylie was a thinker in his own right and had his own ideas - he offered a version of Jung grounded in the sciences, consistent with Darwin, evolution, math and materialistic physics: a way of understanding that will appeal to those less interested or put off by the mysticism Jung embraced, especially in later years...
    Good video!

  • @KerryJeanWatson
    @KerryJeanWatson 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been meaning to watch the video for weeks. Well I finally got around to it and it re afirmed a few things for me. I have found Jung fascinating for years and year too. The part of the video that struck me was the discussion you made about the importance of stepping out of therapy and analysis for the patient to then experience the world to see how thigns have changed.
    I have been seeing a Psychoanalyst since Nov 2016 for depression, anxiety and a Disassociated Pain disorder and ended up in the wheelchair for it. On Friday at my therapy sessions I spoke up and said I no longer felt the need to come in for therapy. My therapist agreed as I have no pain any longer, I walk and have been out of a wheelchair and walking comfortably for the last 5 months. I also mentioned that I felt it WAS time for me to use what I had learnt in that space with the therapist. I have two sessions left which I feel really good about.
    Thank you. thank you for this message, and yes I know you posted it in 2014.
    Also I am now at uni studying Psychology as well. Who knows where it will take me.

  • @CrisAshburn
    @CrisAshburn 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Side Note: Life has been nudging me to read Women Who Run With Wolves for years now. I even own a copy of it. I have been putting it off, because I felt as if it was going to be a big undertaking, and then I end up talking myself out of it. This video makes me think I really need to pick it up.. now. lol

    • @kelly-annmaddox
      @kelly-annmaddox  9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do it! It IS a big undertaking, fair warning. It's like wading through treacle! It took me, like, three months. And I cried twice. Fully worth it.

    • @sanctibella4713
      @sanctibella4713 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +InvokingTheBalance Its a very good book, full of wisdom, heart, soul, wolves, fairy tales, truth, tears and healing. One of my favorite books. I highly recommend Women Who Run With Wolves by Clarissa Pinkola Estés. Men should read it as well :)

  • @agathanelson8469
    @agathanelson8469 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You've been on my spiritual journey with me for a little over a year. It doesn't matter that we don't agree on some topics. What matters is that you encourage me to think. Because of you I've read the bhagavad gita and some Jung. You are helping me to become fearless, which is why I would love for you to continue to talk about Jung... and dare I say chaos magick and topics on the left hand path? Yes I dare. Love and Blessings my English friend!

  • @tarotrunesandteawithserens7868
    @tarotrunesandteawithserens7868 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is the perfect example of why videos and content has so much more value over the years. I only discovered your videos a few months ago and I'm still digging into juicy content that youtube throws up as a recommendation, thank you for keeping your older videos up. I found this really interesting and I love so many of these concepts. I have read the women who run with wolves but this has really brought some new excitement and energy to the subject for me. Thank you.

  • @DeborahJaneWilliamsLewis
    @DeborahJaneWilliamsLewis 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved the video...loved the style...loved the articulation ..

  • @jamesmccormack1914
    @jamesmccormack1914 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Your "ramble" was great. Like individuals, I think the psych schools tend to be polarity focused. Freudian PA, CBT seem male/rationistic/scientific, while humanism, rogerian, Jungian are more female/experiential feeling based. A person is truly blessed if you can find a good integrated therapist who can access boths sides of their nature when doing therapy and who knows the blindspots inherent in their own methodologies. Also what's that old saying: Psychology starts with Freud and end with Jung?

    • @kelly-annmaddox
      @kelly-annmaddox  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, a therapist who can see and avoid their own blind spots and refuse to be too rigid about their preferred school is gold dust. I make a point of using a variation of different ideas for my clients depending on what's necessary. I favour CBT, positive psychology, transpersonal therapy, psychosynthesis.. as well as Jungian ideas,obviously. But of course, no one can be totally divorced from their own perspectives and the ideas which work for their own psyche.
      The great thing about learning a little something about the spectrum of psychology is that you can choose a therapist who works in the most useful school for your particular issues.
      I like that saying, by the way! :)

  • @laurenlopez8425
    @laurenlopez8425 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I absolutely loved this! I've been following you for a while and always love it when you riff on your thoughts about different ideas. I wrote a paper in my high school AP Psych class foreeeever ago and have in the last fee years come back to him realizing it all went WAY over my head back then, ha.
    I'd love to hear more on Jung for sure.
    Something I've pondered on is projection (so glad to hear you mention the negative AND positive aspects, btw) in relation to god or deities as external being/s...like could it be that as Marianne Williamson says, our own possible greatness scares us, or even that our inherent divinity (or direct connection to the divine) is something that tends to be too great a responsibility for our psyche to bear, and so we cling to the notion of an exterior good and evil that we merely hang in the balance between....anyways! I'd love to hear your thoughts on those ideas.
    Always grateful for the work you put out into the world.
    Sending love.

  • @blairmirth6328
    @blairmirth6328 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Further: I was introduced to him when I was around 13 and he has come back into my life in a much deeper level through circles, dreams and other experiences. I am looking forward to understanding and learning more. :3

  • @Skullswithdronesinside
    @Skullswithdronesinside 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I LOVE this video! I was glued to every word all the way through to the end. Your view of shadow work is so true. Sometimes it can be fun and light but for deep, life changing results you've got know how and the perspective I feel most drawn to. I so admire you girl

  • @gemima.876
    @gemima.876 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been watching your video's for quite a few days. Found it very interesting, it led me to look up some books based on psychology and i came across some of Jung's work. Spent an hour or two looking at all his different books and considering buying. Then i came to youtube last night to see you had done a new video on him of all people :) lol Keep up your great channel its brilliantly interesting!

    • @gemima.876
      @gemima.876 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      call me crazy but i feel like i may just watch it again!

    • @kelly-annmaddox
      @kelly-annmaddox  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Gemima Puddlequack :D

  • @Mersthamgal1
    @Mersthamgal1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a wonderful insightful video. I love Jung's ideas on the collective unconscious and how the tarot is a link to the unconscious - or away of bringing it into the conscious. Your delivery style is extremely good - very enjoyable way of "de-complicating" a subject. Thanks Jen

  • @JenStorerAuthor_GirlandDuck
    @JenStorerAuthor_GirlandDuck 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a gorgeous soul you are, Kelly-Ann. I could listen to you for hours. Oh, hang on, I have! You've fired my imagination in many ways and you've inspired me to return to Jung, too. Thank you! xo

  • @IndifferentSky
    @IndifferentSky 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for acknowledging the issues with Jung. I feel that one has to project to understand his writing which makes me giggle. You really understand how his work should be viewed.

  • @blairmirth6328
    @blairmirth6328 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I liked that you shared your thoughts on projection and when you believe it is not projection. I sometimes, when talking to people see the old patterns I used to act out, in someone I am with and it is interesting to look at. I do get pissed of sometimes, especially when I know that person is BS themselves. Then it goes back to being accountable for the self and acknowledging that if I can see that old me in someone then I can have great compassion for them because I understand where they are at. I only recently learned that projection can be positive too it was a ground breaking, heart cracking invitation, as you say to stepping inwards and going into the issues arising around them.
    I laughed [In a good way] about the hard shots of introspection. I love those 'shots' I sometimes go into them daily, other times I may spend a good day following one link after another. I think even before I knew what the terms were for projection, mirroring, shadow work etc I was already doing them because I could not connect with counseling or therapy. I knew what I needed to tackle, I just needed someone to hold my hand and let me know I was doing it right, once I realized that, the stronger my introspection and self work was. It was fucking freeing, and I know a few of my friends who have experienced the same thing.
    Ah rambly comment. Thank you this wonderful video. :)

  • @wisuvi
    @wisuvi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video is really complementary to my studies. Thank you! I like the bit about likening individuals to different types of trees with entangled roots of the collective. Really there were a whole lot of bits I liked that you touched on in this video.

  • @ninokraine
    @ninokraine 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! I was just reading Jung’s biography and you answer a few questions I had.

  • @TITARNYA
    @TITARNYA 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Morning and hope you have a fab Halloween :D
    I watched a BBC documentary on Jung I found on TH-cam and found him fascinating - the archetype theory and dream analysis has been really interesting to me for a long time and I always write my dreams if I remember them.
    His work is definitely something i would like to delve deeper into.
    Great video by the way - I love unscripted videos that come straight from the heart :) xx

  • @susanjbarclay5303
    @susanjbarclay5303 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Although you posted this quite a while ago, I have only just watched it. I am very interested too in the overlap between psychology and spirituality. (I did a Psychology degree) I think denying a broad shared human base - like a common spirituality - or collective unconscious - does harm to the whole purpose of therapy.
    In Australia, too, the go to therapy is CBT (you're lucky if you can get more than 6 weeks of funding for that here).
    My experience is that it seems shallow to me, and if you have serious mental health issues, especially something that stems from childhood sexual abuse or trauma, or other types of PTSD, they can't be dealt with in such a short time. I am glad you are fighting for other types of therapy to be recognised and funded. Hopefully you get more than 6 weeks in England.
    I think science is also beginning to catch up with this idea, mainly in the field of genetics and what they call 'epi-genetics'.

  •  8 ปีที่แล้ว

    a video on typology would be perfect. i just finished reading jung and the tarot, which brought me back to studying typology, since psychological types influenced my life so much. now its interesting to see how other jungian analysts have expanded on his ideas.,

  • @annarockmelon4899
    @annarockmelon4899 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i would love to see a long book recommendation from you one day! you have mentioned some books here and there, but i havent find any lists on your channel or on your blog. you seem to be such a well-read person and it would be lovely to see what you would recommend to read about Jung and about psychology in general. or witchcraft and tarot for that matter! :) i live in England for 3 yeats now but Im originally from Eastern Europe. for me the UK is book haven and sometimes it is so difficult to decide what to order

  • @NinaStrandlod
    @NinaStrandlod 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I definitely want more of this please. VERY interesting!

  • @KatelynMrsBamaIngle
    @KatelynMrsBamaIngle 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kelly Ann you are one of the smartest and best people ever. Like who couldn’t love you! I see much of myself In you.. so very much.. love you big 🤗

  • @louisepara8823
    @louisepara8823 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahhh I'm glad I found your channel, keep it up : )

  • @danbachmann8005
    @danbachmann8005 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Don't know what it is that always makes you question your rhetorical skills.... It's still rather structured tbh. You certainly don't want to hear ME ramble about something that IM passionate about...

  • @TakeJoyAlways
    @TakeJoyAlways 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You have brought me deep understanding on so many levels. Thank you for doing this video. I am not a schooled thinker, just not in my nature, University etc. I do however, love to research which brought me to you via Kelly from The Truth in Story channel. This topic is blowing my mind and your deliver is perfect. What software are you talking about in this video? I am so looking forward to spending more time on your channel. Yes I am interested in Jung and his work but have yet to read anything on him. I do have the book Women who run with wolves but have yet to read it. To read a book I just fall asleep! Blessings to you sweet soul. Diane

  • @shonna_77
    @shonna_77 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This book is the one we used in one of my best uni classes (personality psychology), and is SUPER interesting. It talks about the psychologists and their personalities and lives and how their experiences lead to their theories of personalities.
    www.amazon.com/Beneath-Mask-Introduction-Theories-Personality/dp/0471724122

  • @amyalexandria444
    @amyalexandria444 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you should record an audiobook!

  • @PraetorClaudius
    @PraetorClaudius 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, when are you going to get a publishing deal? I wish there existed a café with 25 Kelly-Ann Maddoxes to wax philosophical with.

  • @LippyWitch
    @LippyWitch 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i do love your terminology, up your nose, meaning getting annoyed lol ♥

  • @butterflymagicwithhottea9291
    @butterflymagicwithhottea9291 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blood Hell but I really, really love listening to you speak. Well done1

    • @butterflymagicwithhottea9291
      @butterflymagicwithhottea9291 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Carmen St-Denis I would like to hear you speak more on Jung. More specifically, I would like to hear about how Jung applies to the Major Arcana. After watching a few of your videos, I ordered books about this and am so impatiently waiting their arrival. It is all so exciting.

    • @kelly-annmaddox
      @kelly-annmaddox  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Carmen St-Denis Oh man, opening up the world of Jung is just game-changing! Thanks for your requests. I definitely intend to talk about Jung much more x

    • @butterflymagicwithhottea9291
      @butterflymagicwithhottea9291 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kelly-Ann, let me tell you what a privilege it is to chat with you. The one complaint I have is that, being inspired by you is costing me soooooo very much. Amazon and Chapters Indigo are very happy with me as a customer these days because I have literally been gobbling up books since tuning in to your channel. Did I say "complaint"? Don't change a thing. You are an original that shines!

  • @ultravioletpisces3666
    @ultravioletpisces3666 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a fantastic video.
    Do you have more on the same topic?

  • @peppermintsara
    @peppermintsara 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you recommend any books that delve more into the history of psych, or any books regarding all the different branches and viewpoints? I took Psych 101 but it was so long ago!

  • @pillowsforthepeople
    @pillowsforthepeople 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this chick!!!

  • @merandasomnolentgamer8323
    @merandasomnolentgamer8323 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh, I thought of a topic I'd love to hear your take on! Do you have any thoughts about Jung's theory of synchronicity?

  • @RunninUpThatHillh
    @RunninUpThatHillh 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @5minutes..yes, like you cannot change WHAT you are but you can change HOW and WHEN you are. I learned about Jung via a buddhist/satanist mentor (hilarious i know) that took about four years doing mirroring exercises with me. I think sometimes it's hard for people to pick up Jung's teachings just raw from the book. I wondered what your take was on child rearing...(seeing your tarot offering on etsy). As a mother, I have ONE parenting rule, and it's for me, not my kids. Don't say/treat/expect it from a child if you wouldn't from a spouse or friend. It really drives other people nuts..but too fucking bad. LOL!

  • @imdivyamenon
    @imdivyamenon 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow... I heard the same podcast :o

  • @ametrinemoon
    @ametrinemoon 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lol, crafty mother!, she wanted you to read the book, you thought you refused, but you read it anyway to her. This is a new field for me. I did Higher Psychology and studied Freud and attachment theory etc. Not Jung! LOL so if Jung came back. Would it be Kellyann does Carl? ;) Amazing video on a totally new type of psychology for me. How about you writing a book on Jung?

    • @kelly-annmaddox
      @kelly-annmaddox  10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oooh, writing a book on Jung?! I don't know if I'm qualified, to be honest. I have a lot of passion, but there are still concepts which I have yet to completely wrap my head around. It truly is a life's work, being a Jungian.
      I think that Jung would probably dig some of my approaches but have lots to say on others in terms of how they need polishing. I've hooked up with his essence on the astral and he has imparted some cool wisdom to me. The thing about Jung is that he played with ideas. He really just permitted himself to flow and he didn't worry too much about whether or not he would really 'put his name' against everything he was saying. He just liked to write and play with concepts and keep exploring and digging. This is why so many people get confused when they get into his ideas.. It becomes obvious that he was just chopping and changing himself over time. His writing spans a big chunk of time and throughout that time he allowed his ideas to evolve as he evolved as a human being. Therefore we actually have a license to choose the ideas which speak to us and build on whatever he didn't build on in his lifetime. He would have encouraged that, I think. Just by virtue of the fact that he took on analysts and trained them, and wrote books, he was obviously open to dialogue and wanted his ideas to live on. For ideas to live on, they must be updated, deepened, clarified and debated. That's what keeps the magic alive, right? :)

    • @ametrinemoon
      @ametrinemoon 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are a counsellor and we need more spiritual Jung books. There is never too many and your take as you are a reader also is a good one. :D Flow dear flow and I loved how you said OCEAN - Openess, Conscioentious, Extraversion, Agreeableness & Neurotisism. Not bad 3 out of 5 just off the top of my head, (did it a few years ago). I find the theories of Freud interesting in a tarot context as a lot of it is symbolism and what if what we are reading is in someone's unconscious?

  • @Windy888City
    @Windy888City 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    So how can you tell whether apparent bad luck has been self originated and should be accepted versus the negative energies heaped upon you by others and the need for banishment? ie. where is that line drawn Kelly?

  • @LuneFlaneuse
    @LuneFlaneuse 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jung YES

  • @ultravioletpisces3666
    @ultravioletpisces3666 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd rather hear you ramble than Jung ramble! Lol... I love Jungian study but not the man himself. Lol. I get very frustrated with his writing and I kinda think he borrowed heavily from the women around him (as men were want to do in those days) and claimed some of their ideas as his own. [It's a conundrum]

  • @BuddhaofBlackpool
    @BuddhaofBlackpool 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are so cool. Like a me but female!