Woah - I love that unconditional love doesn’t mean unconditional tolerance. Thank you both. Thank you Melanie for being there during some of my darkest times years ago with your book. 🙏❤️
I listened to the audio book a few years, ago. Anyone struggling with relationships should read her book. Especially, if you grew up with/around addicts.
This is a great conversation, so honest and real. Rediscovering my own deep rooted codependency, went underground for years, and resurfaced in a situation that was innocent and well meaning, a “once lover”, turned “friend”, holding on , realizing how afraid I am, fear of abandonment and rejection. My friend kicked alcohol 20 years ago, but wrestled w his own monsters… well, you know he patterns. THANK YOU p, both, for your work❣️
I have been a huge fan of Melody Beattie and have read many of her books. Very disappointing to hear judgements on political people woven into this talk. All with a smirk. How does that help the codependent who still suffers?
I love what you both share. Thank you!! Taking responsibility on my contribution to how I react in all that goes on in my life has made living so much more meaningful and satisfying💜❤💖
I dont understand why this has become political. Why? I didnt come here to talk about Trump. Dont use him as an example of whats going on in our lives today. I mean WTF! I came here to understand my life, no one else!
Yeah a lot of people use him as an example. I hear you on this, and yet, for others this is their way of demonstrating a point. Whether it's left or right you see this being brought into lots of conversations. The moralization of political positions is rampant!
@@markgroves You are saying you are neutral in your comment here but you aren't neutral you are on the left. We need to be honest if we are going to be able to have a discussion.
Everyone has a political bias. They were talking about social media and trump was and is constantly spewing hateful rhetoric. I wish she had said he checks all the ones for Malignant Narcissist! He has brought out the worst in people 🤮
@markgroves yeah botton line you fked up. You mislead people, luring them only to be bombarded with your political agenda. . That's right Ill report you!
"...When we're ready to do the deep work..". She definitively allowed herself to go through these levels (read her books 📚 ), yet I think when you're following the Creator, you go through it whether you're ready or ready - not, as the 12 step prayer by Reinhold states . Thy will not nine be done. But she has made a valid point, if not a genuine one
Omg x 10!! Your book coming home fell off the shelf when I was leaving my 22 marriage. Leaving Texas -finally …I was on my way to Malibu Canyon and there I learned u had a book store here. I left April 2001 -a 21 year marriage to come back to my childhood state, which was always my desire. Parents told me Repeatedly-“you can’t -California’s gonna fall the face of the Earth there’s earthquakes and it’s too expensive. Ha ha !All your books helped me get brave. Super Grateful for you❤❤❤. So good to see you!!
Wow Melodie Beatriu ! The Genius understanding codependency !! Thank God I read her books whmwhen I was internalices for alcoholism and at that time has t a section for codependency !
I relied on this book codependent no more for many years many years ago. I didn’t start healing until I was able to recognize narcissistic personality disorder. Her book was no help. In fact, it made things worse. It keeps you stuck. It keeps you confused it keeps you thinking that you can do something about it. It keeps you blaming yourself. Such a great injustice. Once you understand, narcissistic personality disorder, you will see codependent no more just creates more confusion.
Melody Beattie you gave me enlightenment with your books thank you. Mark Groves your fresh energy and gentleness is beautiful to behold. What a fab team xxxx❤❤❤
We can not control people or make everything ok. So true and so painful. My mom had a stroke and I’m struggling because I can’t make it ok. I’m open to suggestions. I know I’m letting it take me down.
It's hard to not wish for things to be different when they're incredibly challenging. Sending you love as you navigate this. Look for how you could ask for support, and what you need to hold everything you're holding ❤
Am I alone in seeing that this mod/ interviewer is indeed a nice guy but maybe has likely a few layers of his own quiet anger? I think anger is the problem, and resentment is its cousin. I like this discussion though.
So disappointed to hear the Trump bashing. Ironically when the armchair psychoanalysis of his personality starts his message about what it means to love our country and the great experiment of the United States of America gets lost. Trump 2024
Mark handled it all beautifully, but yes, just like Carolyn Myss, the assumption that everyone interested in the healing arts is a flaming liberal is a dire mistake. Very arrogant. From the Midwest and doesn’t understand Trump’s rust belt following? Serious blind spot.
This was randomly presented in my feed, probably because of my interest in relationships, but the title is click bait and I feel duped. There was almost no discussion of co-dependency at all. Disappointing.
True, Trump did expose the abhorrent amount of racism and religious intolerance of other beliefs that still exists in the US. Unfortunately he’s happy to fuel it for votes… but his encouragement has certainly brought these roaches into the light.
Yes Trump certainly is a bright light if corruption and extreme hatred unfortunately daily his calls for violent actions are very trying on all of us and particularly our unhealed within our communities. Thank you for bravely pointing out his obvious corruption
Wow, really? Talking personal derogatory opinions about others... (Trump) politic Really disappointing for the "enlightened" people you believe you are.
The voters voted for change in policies. Don’t dumb down a country of women. And he actually delivered. Now it’s undone and we are in a horrible place.
I agree. I'm 25 minutes in waiting for useful codependency material as I'm working on my codependency, and now we are discussing Trump, which is completely irrelevant to this conversation and none of the actionable information at all.
The Trump bashing and negative analysis of the people who support him starts at 21 minutes and goes on for about 4 minutes. Don’t tell me who I am because I support him because you don’t know.
He literally said he had to remind himself NOT to make assumptions about a person based on the single fact that they support Trump, which is good because Trump supporters were painted a certain way in the media and he was trying to NOT fall for it and treat them as people he could learn from rather than dismiss as this label or that label.
@@lisapearson4989 i hear you. It was somewhat helpful but not as helpful as I thought it would be. I also thought the title was misleading. Either way you and I probably watched it for reasons not all that different so I wish you the best.
Thanks for your comment. Now I know I can go ahead and listen to this and just get through that part. I'm not a supporter but I don't want to listen to it. That's not what I came here for
Disappointed... The title is not relatable and why would you involve politics in this subject.... I feel like I've lost one hour of my life listening to this and haven't learn much if anything ...
Wow having an ad for a THC product on a podcast featuring addiction recovery is INSANE .. more of the ‘medicate away my symptoms’ addictive thinking that so prevails throughout our society …geesh. I like this particular podcast but as a therapist and person in recovery longterm I won’t be subscribing to this podcast. Ugh.
I lost respect for this when you started talking politics. If you can't see the turmoil the entire world is in these past 3 years then you are deceived and I can't learn anything from you
Ok thats enough for me now you're dropping f bombs and children are walking around my screen. PUT A PROFANITY WARNING!! And you guys are trying to teach us about good morals and respect....
Delivered what? The wall never built that Mexico was supposed to pay for? Replacing Obamacare with something better? He has “concepts” of a plan. He doesn’t deliver.
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Woah - I love that unconditional love doesn’t mean unconditional tolerance. Thank you both. Thank you Melanie for being there during some of my darkest times years ago with your book.
🙏❤️
This woman is the epitome of inspiration, from spiritual welfare to spiritual warrior. The work is not for the weak.
My daughter just gave me this book yesterday . It was in her rehab and she said it helped her so she passed it in to me.❤
I listened to the audio book a few years, ago. Anyone struggling with relationships should read her book. Especially, if you grew up with/around addicts.
I got the book and reading
I learned so much from this video one of them being disappointed from life is what it's called the dark night of the soul
This is a great conversation, so honest and real. Rediscovering my own deep rooted codependency, went underground for years, and resurfaced in a situation that was innocent and well meaning, a “once lover”, turned “friend”, holding on , realizing how afraid I am, fear of abandonment and rejection. My friend kicked alcohol 20 years ago, but wrestled w his own monsters… well, you know he patterns. THANK YOU p, both, for your work❣️
I have been a huge fan of Melody Beattie and have read many of her books. Very disappointing to hear judgements on political people woven into this talk. All with a smirk. How does that help the codependent who still suffers?
Absolutely takes away from the sincerity of it. It makes them look so incompetent.
I love what you both share. Thank you!!
Taking responsibility on my contribution to how I react in all that goes on in my life has made living so much more meaningful and satisfying💜❤💖
God bless Mark. This is an incredible interview.
Through God all things are possible.💜🙏🏼
This is in my top 5 books that have changed my life. I learn something new every time I listen to it. It's like seeing the sun with brand new eyes.
I dont understand why this has become political. Why? I didnt come here to talk about Trump. Dont use him as an example of whats going on in our lives today. I mean WTF!
I came here to understand my life, no one else!
Yeah a lot of people use him as an example. I hear you on this, and yet, for others this is their way of demonstrating a point. Whether it's left or right you see this being brought into lots of conversations. The moralization of political positions is rampant!
@@markgroves You are saying you are neutral in your comment here but you aren't neutral you are on the left. We need to be honest if we are going to be able to have a discussion.
Everyone has a political bias. They were talking about social media and trump was and is constantly spewing hateful rhetoric. I wish she had said he checks all the ones for Malignant Narcissist! He has brought out the worst in people 🤮
I'm glad so many people commented that there wasn't much in here about codependents. I think I'll save myself an hour by not watching it.
@markgroves yeah botton line you fked up. You mislead people, luring them only to be bombarded with your political agenda.
. That's right Ill report you!
Thank you Melody and Mark. I love your books. They've helped me and others endlessly over the years xx god bless xx ❤
amazing lady! amazing interview ..thanks Mark & Melody …lifesaving info 💞🙏🏻
She is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT…T’s energy is what people are loving; NOT his ignorance!!
Have just started watching. I can tell already this is meant for me!
Why do I want back in the pot? Good god, how do we break these patterns? 🙈
This lady helped me so much and I even passed it to my daughter
"...When we're ready to do the deep work..". She definitively allowed herself to go through these levels (read her books 📚 ), yet I think when you're following the Creator, you go through it whether you're ready or ready - not, as the 12 step prayer by Reinhold states . Thy will not nine be done. But she has made a valid point, if not a genuine one
God bless you. I'm Canadian
Love, love, love this video!!! Thank you for this!
Great interview!!! Much love to you both. I am a new subscriber, so glad that I found you!!
Omg x 10!! Your book coming home fell off the shelf when I was leaving my 22 marriage. Leaving Texas -finally …I was on my way to Malibu Canyon and there I learned u had a book store here. I left April 2001 -a 21 year marriage to come back to my childhood state, which was always my desire. Parents told me Repeatedly-“you can’t -California’s gonna fall the face of the Earth there’s earthquakes and it’s too expensive. Ha ha !All your books helped me get brave. Super Grateful for you❤❤❤. So good to see you!!
Wow Melodie Beatriu ! The Genius understanding codependency !! Thank God I read her books whmwhen I was internalices for alcoholism and at that time has t a section for codependency !
I relied on this book codependent no more for many years many years ago. I didn’t start healing until I was able to recognize narcissistic personality disorder. Her book was no help. In fact, it made things worse. It keeps you stuck. It keeps you confused it keeps you thinking that you can do something about it. It keeps you blaming yourself. Such a great injustice. Once you understand, narcissistic personality disorder, you will see codependent no more just creates more confusion.
Amazing wise woman
Yes she is ❤
Interesting but was expecting more on codependency.
OMG MELODY YOUR BOOK IS SAVING ME FROM MY LIFE! Yes im screaming…. I swear i thought i was ALONE!!!
Live to be inquisitive!!! Not curious attitude. Rather CHOOSE TO BE inquisitive & research GOOD POSSIBILITIES !!!
I feel this period of difficulty, both individually and collectively, on the road to navigating how to live and co-exist on the New Earth.
She is amazing ❤
I've paid for you tube premium to not have ads, why are there ads? Not happy about that :(
Loving her from a distance and forgiving her thru Gods help i have nothing else to giver you 😅
Was looking forward to wise words on codependency, which there was, then got off track.
Melody Beattie you gave me enlightenment with your books thank you. Mark Groves your fresh energy and gentleness is beautiful to behold. What a fab team xxxx❤❤❤
OMG social media!!! Damn you’re both on it!! It’s soooo addictive and it’s “triggering”
Truly enjoyed listening to your discussion. Thank you 🙏
We can not control people or make everything ok. So true and so painful. My mom had a stroke and I’m struggling because I can’t make it ok. I’m open to suggestions. I know I’m letting it take me down.
It's hard to not wish for things to be different when they're incredibly challenging. Sending you love as you navigate this. Look for how you could ask for support, and what you need to hold everything you're holding ❤
Give your pain to God and you ll be OK.
Thank you 🙏❤️
Thank you 🙏❤️
Thank you 🙏❤️
Thank you 🙏❤️
Wow great video thank you
I voted for Trump because I'm awake not woke
Thanks very much 😊
Awesome job with this one
You two are amazing ❤
Am I alone in seeing that this mod/ interviewer is indeed a nice guy but maybe has likely a few layers of his own quiet anger? I think anger is the problem, and resentment is its cousin. I like this discussion though.
She just makes sense and I am a fetal alcohol syndrome baby 😢
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So disappointed to hear the Trump bashing. Ironically when the armchair psychoanalysis of his personality starts his message about what it means to love our country and the great experiment of the United States of America gets lost. Trump 2024
Why bother pretending to try to understand people who would vote for Trump only to go on to insult them. Ugh. It was an interesting video until then.
I followed that hundred percent totally agree with them. I may be the only one but plus one to what they said.
Mark handled it all beautifully, but yes, just like Carolyn Myss, the assumption that everyone interested in the healing arts is a flaming liberal is a dire mistake. Very arrogant. From the Midwest and doesn’t understand Trump’s rust belt following? Serious blind spot.
@@karacarper2136If you were listening carefully, Mark didn’t agree with her, but handled her obvious bias very diplomatically.
What are the other 3 essential self-help books peeps?
So you dont really know Gods plan, he can turn a bad thing into a good thing. Its the mystery of fairh, all the glory is his. Amen👏
This was randomly presented in my feed, probably because of my interest in relationships, but the title is click bait and I feel duped. There was almost no discussion of co-dependency at all. Disappointing.
Listen again
Most important relationship is the one with ourselves
I thank Trump for exposing all of the corruption & extreme hatred. 🌺🦋🌲🌸
Don’t bring that sick bastard into this convo. Melody is no fan of Trump 😂
True, Trump did expose the abhorrent amount of racism and religious intolerance of other beliefs that still exists in the US. Unfortunately he’s happy to fuel it for votes… but his encouragement has certainly brought these roaches into the light.
Yes Trump certainly is a bright light if corruption and extreme hatred unfortunately daily his calls for violent actions are very trying on all of us and particularly our unhealed within our communities. Thank you for bravely pointing out his obvious corruption
Are you kidding,Trump is the reason our county is so divided and hateful...
That's what you took from this? 🙄
Unless is at the end or almost,yall have talked about EVERYTHING EXCEPT SHARING THE TOOLS WE CAN USE TO HELP US OVER COME THIS TERRIBLE SPIRIT.
Please don't bring politics into Codependency :(
Honey, politics shapes absolutely everything. Maybe heal the cowardice you have to face and understand what you call "politics".
@mythsonmyths maybe heal your need to control others who don't want to engage in such pointless conversations.
@@MCE851 you clicked on the wrong video if you so conveniently want to bypass what makes you uncomfortable in your "healing process" lol.
Don't despair people@@mythsonmyths
Wow, really? Talking personal derogatory opinions about others... (Trump) politic Really disappointing for the "enlightened" people you believe you are.
I paid not to hear commercials
maga ❤
The voters voted for change in policies. Don’t dumb down a country of women. And he actually delivered. Now it’s undone and we are in a horrible place.
100,000 percent.
I was following until the god speak started
How did THIS beautiful, beneficial, deeply enrighing forum become a political crumble? Lack of professionalism is astounding. Too bad.
Business functions 😮
Misleading title
Imo the title of this and the content weren't very related. This wasn't helpful.
I agree. I'm 25 minutes in waiting for useful codependency material as I'm working on my codependency, and now we are discussing Trump, which is completely irrelevant to this conversation and none of the actionable information at all.
@@OllieSmiless So disappointing, but there's many others out there. Hope you find the one that speaks to you. I'm still finding it myself.
@@dudette2c there is definitely lots of other material on TH-cam. Good luck in your search and work as well!
@@dudette2c Lisa A Romano and her channel is very good for codependency.
@Olga Kay I'll take a look. Thank you! Happy healing journey to you, too, friend.
YEP…The Divine Wisdom of The Great Mother!!!💙🙏🏽🧝🏾♀️🧖🏽♀️👸🏽🥷🏽🔥💦💯
Yes I agree I was very interested in listening until we started getting political. Totally turned off now.
The shades of grey trauma_ having sex with contempt _ loveving hateing on you kind of thing_ like eating your own shit for desert.
Why does he use the F work so often to express himself?
The Trump bashing and negative analysis of the people who support him starts at 21 minutes and goes on for about 4 minutes. Don’t tell me who I am because I support him because you don’t know.
He literally said he had to remind himself NOT to make assumptions about a person based on the single fact that they support Trump, which is good because Trump supporters were painted a certain way in the media and he was trying to NOT fall for it and treat them as people he could learn from rather than dismiss as this label or that label.
I am more concerned about his guest. She disappointed me deeply as she was an author that came highly recommended.
@@lisapearson4989 i hear you. It was somewhat helpful but not as helpful as I thought it would be. I also thought the title was misleading. Either way you and I probably watched it for reasons not all that different so I wish you the best.
Thanks for your comment. Now I know I can go ahead and listen to this and just get through that part. I'm not a supporter but I don't want to listen to it. That's not what I came here for
This definitely wasn't what I expected. Half way through and you're still talking politics? The title qas definitely misleading
Disappointed... The title is not relatable and why would you involve politics in this subject.... I feel like I've lost one hour of my life listening to this and haven't learn much if anything ...
If your getting paid money for your help it can't last long
How did you feel when Biden got elected?
I didn’t and don’t like some of Trump’s things . I agree with most of his policies . We aren’t stupid
Wow having an ad for a THC product on a podcast featuring addiction recovery is INSANE .. more of the ‘medicate away my symptoms’ addictive thinking that so prevails throughout our society …geesh. I like this particular podcast but as a therapist and person in recovery longterm I won’t be subscribing to this podcast. Ugh.
Read melodie’s work many years ago . Signing off now and not subscribing
These two jokers. Political agendas.
I lost respect for this when you started talking politics. If you can't see the turmoil the entire world is in these past 3 years then you are deceived and I can't learn anything from you
What a boomer this has gone political... Sorry Mark you shoudl have just let Melody speak her wisdom
Even as corrupt and inept, incompetent…. liberals still give a pass.
Ok thats enough for me now you're dropping f bombs and children are walking around my screen. PUT A PROFANITY WARNING!!
And you guys are trying to teach us about good morals and respect....
Trump did deliver!!
Delivered what? The wall never built that Mexico was supposed to pay for? Replacing Obamacare with something better? He has “concepts” of a plan. He doesn’t deliver.