2 videos in one week? What is this timeline? Also I feel like I should clarify that yes: I'm more than aware that Revenant is being changed in like.. A week or two. But that won't stop me from complaining! And like I said: I like having an idea of how a frame was like during their Week 1 interval. So ye, expect atleast some of these complaints and issues to be fixed as early as tomorrow if we're lucky
I didn't know he was beig fixed. Also, he's a sentiemt warframe...remember that last sentient we risk our LIVES TO SAVE!!! YA HER! Well, we have more than reason to complain. ;)
I think revenant should be a tank that can grow immune to one type of damage at the time (like the sentients themselves) or maybe instead of possessing enemies you spawn little vomvalysts
@@-voiddemoni-9243 Revenant was previously known as the Warden. The Sentient that Gara defeated was actually still alive, just down at the bottom of a lake in the Plains. The Warden guarded the lake to make sure it wouldn't escape. Over time, the Sentient manipulated him into unwittingly providing an opportunity for it to make a comeback. To stop this, he jumped into the lake and sealed it himself. Because of all the time spent with it, the Sentient's energies changed him, turning him into the Revenant. So a Prime for him would probably just look like when he was the Warden.
So rework then: 1 - Infuses enemy with Eidolon energy, making them go crazy ham (drastic increase in movement speed and attack speed), but deal less and take more damage per hit, when the duration expires or the enemy dies, the "jizz fountain" explodes out, growing in size and power over 10s dealing puncture damage based on base+damage taken, damage is doubled (second portion dealing impact) if the target was a boss or eximus. Ally frames (not rev) that stand in it instead get energy regen instead (how Voms charge op/frame for lure) 2 - Instead of 1 costing no energy on stunned units, a unit enraged by 1 now instantly drops a fully charged energy pillar (full base+bonus "damage absorbed" equal to the targets missing hp) that lasts only 5 seconds instead and lets Rev benefit from his pillars energy regen; also casting changed so that you can tap it for a single layer of mesmer skin which is a one handed animation (no movement interrupt) or held to go into a kneel on ground channel with as many stacks as energy cost allows (aka eidolon bullshit armor). 3 - Instead of fixed dash, its channeled and turns you ghostly/lets you phase through enemies while ignoring projectiles but not explosions, melee or lasers, lets you run faster, and have 25%+ aim glide/bullet jump. Every enemy you go through gets knocked down and have 15% of their max hp drained over 10 seconds which you recover as shields, (can grant overshields and will regen hp once they are full). Enraged enemies (and Voms on PoE) also start chasing you. When you return to physical form, all enraged enemies (and voms) in range have all of their armor and shields stripped (voms turn ghostly). 4 - Current spin2win lazor, but causes pillars to spawn every time a enraged enemy is hit (aka lets turn this into a eidolon rave) and all energy pillars increase the stun and knockdown duration enemies inside by 200%. When you stop doing spin2win, all pillars cause a magnetic proc (which while mostly pointless is accurate to what eidolons do).
Eidolons call for help from the Vomvalysts. Revenant turns people. It's similar enough for me to be ok with the concept of his 1. That does not excuse the cap at 4
That's two different things eidolon doesn't control people it calls for help revenant doesn't do that he controls people and makes them help him one ask for help the other force them and enslaves them
@Luke Fraczek RIGHT no one want to even try to fix revenant and say hes good and his moves fit his theme it doesn't his kit neither eidolon nor vampire at all hes a straight mess hes mediocre at best and needs a rework that fits his theme and help him and the team and for the love of God please remove his 1 and 2 people who this control enemy's is good don't know how incredibly retarded the controlled enemy's are and will just be dead in seconds and his 2 has a incredibly weakness that you will see at lv 70 or high because enemy's start doing critical hits and revenants 2 is useless to it he instantly dies when it hits and that shit drops when a group of enemies are attacking so goodbye heath and energy I don't need to explain his 3rd its just a worst version of cloud Walker and his 4 is useless in high mission because it falls out I'm sorry but if people actually say that revenant is a great frame then your saying that vauban is the best frame in the game
Boi, I just remembered something. When will we be spear men again? We only had 3 bosses yet, granted those were mutilated salad, elephantitis, and big sis.
@@TriburosOnline hrrrrrrgggggg. For real though. I've been waiting because I want to do big sis with you again, but hopefully whenever Soon.TM is, I don't get bugged and stunned into a corner by roller balls like last time
For people watching a year after this vid was released: he has been patched extensively and has the following buffs: 7 thralls instead of 4, the energy pillars have been buffed extremely for damage and they also enthrall enemies, his second is recastable, his third has been changed to be modded for range and a few bugs where changed, his 4 deals damage specific to the enemy (corrosive for grinear, etc) (possibly mentioned in the vid coz this is an old mechanic, maybe I missed it). Animations have been changed to suite the sentient theme and also a useless after death ability to make a pillar when dead (mentioned it just coz I remember it, obv it's not going to do a lot of damage. Others things I'm too lazy to mention like the synergy between his first 3 and the fourth (don't remember the first two, but the third ability costs less energy while in 4). Opinion(as a humble fan not a full blown pro) : if your watching this vid from a year ago and you think he's shit you'll be surprised to know he's been buffed a lot. Judge the fixes yourself though. (pls really wanted to say he's basically a sentient hydroid looking at their simular synergies between abilities)
Revenant: Enthrall: WTF is a "Nyx" Mesmer Skin: Noone like Rhino anyway Reave: Hey you know that Reinhardt guy from Overwatch? Danse Macabre: BEYBLADE BEYBLADE LET IT RIP!
My number 1 fear when they revealed "vlad" the "eidolon frame" was that someone would realise that Revenant isn't a vampire, and try to make him more like an eidolon, but not take it far enough, and leave him somewhere uncomfortably in the middle. Seems like those fears were well founded. I really want to like Revenant, and it'd be cool if they made him more like the eidolons we fight, what with the sky laser beams, damage pools on the floor, mass knockbacks/energy fields, but it seems that the people working on him had a very difficult time defining what a sentient frame should be, and considering this was to be Rebecca's warframe, didn't want to change it too much. In my opinion, they should have scrapped the Mind Control parts of his kit and left that for Garuda, and her Blood shields, or another warframe in future, because that on its own is a cool concept with lots of potential.
Some of those abilities look like they were left over from a vampire style frame, creating thralls and turning into a cloud of mist both seem pretty in line with traditional vampire lore. I wonder if they will strip out those abilities in a rework and replace them with more...."sentienty" ones. Though even I don't know what that could entail. Perhaps make his 1 akin to a Gara 1 but with a sentient beam?
Make his 2 recastable while it's still up so you don't get the chroma problem of 'oh crap i have to wait for my defense to fail before i can refresh' and make it able to be cast while in his 4 even if that means a pause in his 4 that automatically resumes when his 2 is back up. That only leaves his 1 and his 3. His 1 could be made instantly a lot better if the thrall status spread like how saryn's spores do even with an initial cast limit of 4 thralls, to basically make it the CC centric cousin to Saryn's nuke. So I see it like... you have your four thralls. One thrall dies. Four enemies that are within ..I dunno five meters (unmoddable) of that thrall are now enthralled for the remaining duration and if any of those die before the duration ends pick four new enemies that have the remaining duration, and so on until duration ends on enthrall. Each then leaves a pillar that lasts however long they last now or shield restore or whatever. That spread mechanic i HOPE isn't so gonzo to be OP outside of edge cases because of the hard radius enemies have to be within to be enthralled as well as the 'make new minion' cap each fresh kill grants. Still mostly useful for setting up choke points, but a lot less micro-manag-y to do so. Also it turns duration into an important ability so Revanant isn't a pure 'I MUST HAVE POWER STRENGTH' His 3... I don't like it really and the best I can come up with is allow us to travel in other directions with it like a duration based cloudwalker so say you're in your 4 and you hit a ledge. currently, you need to end his 4 hop over the edge and resume doom spin. With this cast 3 bam 'i'm not done with the spin cycle guys. C'mere for the laser rave show!' Also please for the love of FSM change the graphic it looks super weak... maybe make it look all eidolon'y like how vombulysts look when they dash. and a general speedup of animations would be nice to cap it all off.
Cast time on his 2 is terrible. I would make the thrall limit higher (like 8-14 maybe) and make his 1 able to hit small clusters of enemies in like 2-3 meter radius. It would still consume energy for each enemy hit but it would make his gameplay smoother. And this energy pillar thingys while having increases radius should attract enemies (not to shoot but to stand in them. Maybe make the AI consider it a cover or something) and have a slight vortex effect so it would slow down passing enemies.
And they did almost everything you suggested. Mesmer skin is now recastable and can be restored by reaving through thralls. The pillars that thralls left when dead were buffed and now can fire projectiles that enthrall others, reave is now vomvalyst charge and you can control it, so you can hit multiple enemies with it and exploit percentage damage. With those buffs, I think that Revenant is really good frame now.
sentients are my favorite race in warframe and seeing a sentient frame only having 1 sentient-ish ability (his 4, wich is like the hydro/gauntulyts laser disco attack) and all his other abilities having NOTHING to do with sentients is really sad. so much wasted potential
I took a break from warframe and when I came back I head about a sentrient frame. I got all these ideas about what it would look like and then... this... thing.
What's the issue here? Creating interesting player versions of Sentient abilities should be P*ss-easy *1: Most/(All?) sentients get immense damage resistance against whatever element they get exposed to.* - Player ability: Have player get a temporary, but, ever increasing resistance against damage types they are exposed to. _(This is almost so iconic to sentients, it should be a passive)_ *2: Some sentients can turn into a dust-devil that are completely immune to damage* - Player ability: Time-limited ability that turns player into an invulnerable dust-devil (with vaccuum effect). (An extremely powerful ability that limits the players' mobility(and operator?), could be combined with #1 above.) *3: Sentients seem to be able to track you wherever you are* - Player ability: Get a large radius of Radar, Loot detector, etc (upkeep/timelimited) *4: Energy leech ability. While I don't know of a sentient that has this - it feels more "sentient-esque" than enthrallment.* Could be combined with energy distribution: I.e Link drain from powerful NPC to player, then one to give excess energy to a linked team-mate Four examples that took less than 5 minute to come up with and write down... Almost all with effects & code that already exist. *DE - What are you doing?!*
Well non of those abilities deal actual damage, and damage is reeeallly important. They also dont give you much crowd controll. And if you look closely, you can see that it would just become a weird mix of "Insert any frame with an ability to be invencible or take less damage" and Trinity (because of the energy leech) and no one would use the third ability, so... Yeah... It's more difficult than it seems.
As a console player I'm hoping he gets reworked or De see this comment and rethinks his ability before the update gets to console. I was so hyped sucks he isn't as good as he could be
@corle01 I didn't mean for these to be a 1-1 replacement of the 1 through 4. Just... a replacement for "making thralls that does nothing"... where I would gladly have had a variant of Trinities EV, or an ability that detects mobs. (for example) NB: I gave it
Most people do forget he’s not meant to be a *Sentient* frame, but an Eidolon frame. They may be from the same lifeform, but Eidolons are basically spectral sentients. Sentients who are not quite whole. The giant eidolons on the plains show this. They’re all from the same sentient that was destroyed and blown apart by Gara. They constantly roam the plains looks for their pieces to put themselves back together. Even though it’s been years, I do hope Revenant gets a rework to be more eidolon-like. I’m a Revenant main, but his least useful power is enthrall (unless you specifically spec into power strength and duration to instantly delete enemies with his 3).
I gotta say that revenant became my fifth favorite warframe in the game. I just discovered that i could 2 hit k.o. level 95 enemies with 1 cast of enthrall and then eunning into them a couple of time with reave. Keep in mind that this is after the "rework"
In my honest opinion, i sadly don't like Revenant, i found his kit to be so all over the place, some are battalist powers, others are Eidolons and some are just random. Me as a player that really like Loki saying that Revenent skills are boring is sad, Loki allows you to learn and improve you playstyle, Revenent is 4, 2, 4, 2, 4, 2 that don't scale. For me i would prefered his 4 to be like the Eidolon raining bullets, that way you would be allowed to move freely, and in bonus wouldn't have that ugly animation, btw your lasers can't shoot through some abilities like Gara's wall glass.
This a problem tha newer frames have, they lack focus, they tried to make vlad here a vampire and a eidalon he will need a brutal rework, because he is now full sentient, if you pick magic boi bimbo is straigth foward, he control space and have a magigian astetic, even if he is one of the most complex warframe his motive is simple, buth afther harrow they tried to do 2 things in 1 and its not as good now.
Well, actually revenant is more like 2,1,3,1,3,1,3 since reave deals percentage damage and you can oneshot your thralls on any level. That really helped me when i was doing kela de thaym sortie.
I feel like if his 4 shot the lasers from his raised hand would still be goofy looking, if only because he'd still be a crazy robot man shooting lasers while spinning like a beyblade
I think that reave is like how the vomvalsyt do their dash attack when you break their first layer of armor with the operator and their armor regenerates. However this doesn't make much sense as an ability because that is a vomvalyst trait, and revenant takes the theme of being the teralyst/gauntalyst/hydrolyst controlling/commanding the vomvalyst.
For his one, I’m thinking he could have an ability where he sleeps into the ground (I.e the Eidolons when destroying a synovia) and he stays in the ground for a short period of time, and when he casts his one again, he ejects causing a geyser of energy to shoot from the ejection point, or (with an augment) have that large geyser explode into 4-5 smaller versions and track enemies
Revenant is getting close to one of my favorite frames so I actually really like him. I dont think he is bad or dissapointing. I think he is pretty fun.
Definitely agreeing with you. His one can be fixed tho. Instead of enthralling enemies you could just summon a number of enthralls being like small holographic vomvalists that deal damage to enemies but more importantly healing you and allies over time, working like the vomvalists the eidolons call for help at the end. His dash could just become like the eidolon teleport (but change the square into an actual „circle“ -ish hitbox that scales at an more or less logical way with power strength/range) and his 2 could just be recastable to fix it.
Tell D.E to give him an ability that when he activates it, for 5 seconds it tracks what damage he takes and then for the next few minutes he gets near complete damage reduction to the type he got hit by for 5 seconds
I kinda wanted revenant to go kaiju since he's linked to the eidolon. as for his first ability it should be swapped out for a directional beam that wipes out enemys and turns them into the meteors that the eidolon has , this would act like hydroids first ability but deal radiation.
Oh but there’s *MOAR* what about Octavia the DJ, revenant the laser light show, ash for smoke, banshee with sound distortion, and mirage as the disco ball.
That glitch is by far the most useful part of his first ability. I like his ability kit. But it requires a lot of buffs. More thralls are required. He's 3 has a visual design problem, I'm glad someone mentioned it, at last. His 2 needs to function differently. The trall pods or stuff that falls on the ground could move around, that would also be an upgrade and overshields do worm against his passive. But they allow for more survivability so I don't mind it.
I think the 1 can be fixed by instead of enthralling enemies, having those vonvolists be like little bombs. His 3 can be fixed by reducing its cost by like 50% and having the goofy fog rectangle replaced with a rounded semi-circle of blue forcefield, I agree with you about his 4. His 2 can be fixed by establishing each cast as providing 10 charges base, but increasing the held charges cap to 20 base (with some reduction in the effectiveness of power strength on number of charges, that way people aren't running around with more than 30 or so)..
The pillars could give energy and 1 ability could be switched out for that lightning or maybe allow it to build stacks like inaros, per 25 stacks his 4 gets more of those terralyst abilities
i have a thought with the three. if they fix the smoke to work more like the elytron's 2 where smoke follows you, then it might make it better. his passive i can't say if it's good or bad, but what it could be is he works like a vomvalyst and inaros where while he's downed he can still go around and cast his abilities in the second part of vomvalyst. I think if that was added and while in this mode his abilities changed slightly (not like replacing the ability, just changing what they do) then they could make someone similar to Leoric in heroes of the storm who can revive himself and aid his allies while dead (on revenant for example, any enemies hit by his 3 would temporarily slowed for a few seconds and also takes some of their life to revive himself). now i'm not saying to make another inaros, just trying to give an idea of how revenant may be better. I will say though, i think he should be able to summon vomvalysts. I mean octavia has rollers. just let the guy have sentient minions that are atleast decent or give him a BS orbital strike that goes through different planes of reality. Edit: what if his passive had something to do with adaptation? like he slowly adapted to damage received or only when he received procs.
I feel like instead of thralls enemies shouls be transformed into low level Mimics scaling with the level of the mission, at that rate with dps minions and their damage reduction the cone dps would be unnecessary, also fits the sentient theme better. As far as his "layers" it would be an interesting mechanic to make each layer absorb damage equal to twice the armor of enemies within ten meters, so (Sum of enemy armor in range) x 2, with a drawback of making range mods not effect it. However to fit the sentient theme this could also be turned into the sentiments ability to nullify recent damage types. As far as the three, up the damage and make it actually look like a vomvalyst dash and its good.
What about for his 1, when a thrall dies revenant gets an energy refund equal to a portion of energy invested boosted by range or efficiency or strength(?) or gets added as power strength to his nxt cast ??
Don’t forget that the laser ball thing also applies to the Gauntalysts, instead of making it rain explosive bolts of energy (like the Teralysts and Hydrolysts), they shoot a disco ball above their bodies that functions like the Battalysts’ disco balls.
I was thinking that the ability reworks for Revenant could be this. Also every ability can be affected by strength, range, or both. Passive: Bonus damage to sentience. Ability 1: Activating this ability will cause all enemies to give a status effect on you, you will then be immune to the first four different status effects. Once you have immunity to any status effect, you can then activate the ability again to release a blast giving enemies the four status effects you were immune to. Ability 2: Your Warframe will spin causing a tornado, this tornado will attract enemies and cause damage. Ability 3: You use your immunities to support your teammates in this order first immunity will give an overshield, second will give health, third will give armor, and fourth will give energy. This base stat for support is 50. Ability 4: This ability can stay the same.
Feel like the 1 should just spawn an army of Vomvolisc (the little sentients) which can be used to either attack or heal, similar to the eidolon fights.
My rework idea: Passive; Basically an inate adapation. 1: Spawn 4 vomvalysts, basically normal vomvalysts with a different color or design idc, these vomvalysts deal damage and draw aggro while not being able to die, recast one to have them all return to you and give health and energy like the eidolons do based on how much damage they took, new vomvalysts scale off how much damage the previous did and thus deal more damage. Is effected by power strength efficiency and duration. 2: An marker on your screen will show up on the floor, cast again and a beam of sentient energy will strike from the sky, dealing damage and procing magnetic for a set amount of time, hold to focus and have the beam follow your cursor. Friendly Vomvalysts hit by this beam spawns a double of it. Giving 8 potential vomvalysts. The extra 4 count as normal and can be used to gain energy. Is effected by strength range efficiency and duration. 3: Consume all your shields instead of energy to have a constant explosion of sentient energy in a small radius, shields do not regen when this ability is active. Absorbing Vomvalysts add more damage and range based on how much damage they dealt, up to 2x damage and range, blast also procs knockdown. Is effected by range strength and duration. 4: Literally the same except if you have 3 active, a shot of energy is fired into the air to rain down on enemies dealing damage. You can probably tell this is inspired by eidolons, cuz I love how they're designed, strong n flashy.
I think his first ability is from the vampire part of his development, that or more like a zombie type of deal. Because I not sure about this it supposed to be like it is on ps4. But you can get an army of those thralls on ps4.
In my opinion his 1 should make the characters it's used on act like sentients and basically have adaptation like sentients have. And they should also be able to use a weaker version of his 4 like the batalyst (I think)
I too am not dissappointed in the effectiveness of his kit, but on how the "sentient warframe" was handled. Sentients are most notorious for their capability to adapt to any damage, so I think the adaptation mod as a passive would ve a great fit, and to balance it out, you loose 5% HP each time you go into operator mode, since sentients are weak against void damage.
I've been playing revenant as of recent and I got to argue that he is actually quite fun and useful. took him to mot survival for a bit and apart from issues with energy, I fairly enjoyed playing with him while solo. I got 7-10 thralls on mine which is a fair number and I just let them distract other enemies while I pick off specific enemies that would cause any problems like heavies and ancients. Also his 3 synergies with his one in quickly killing enthralled enemies.
They should just make his one all about the void spots and make them do max health damage of the target it came from. Not a lot just enough to help with scaling. Turn the mind control aspect into like a spreading radiation proc that marks the afflicted. His two just needs to be recoded all together. It doesn’t stop splash dmg, nullifier shots, and only scales to dmg equal to your total ehp.
well thralls and thrall damage pillars go well if instead of killing enemies you kill thralls in gunfights so your thralls can unfect other thralls while leaving more and more damage pillars as you kill them
My idea for his two. Enemies that harm you are automatically enthralled. If they are unable to be enthralled(if they're a boss or if you have max thralls) they take a set amount of damage that they have the least defense against. If Revenant is a warframe touched by the sentient, and became the ultimate sentient hunter, I feel they should play into the adaptation ability of the sentient. If sentient can adapt defense, perhaps Revenant can adapt offense.
Must have finished building in the foundry now, time to test it. The fact that we need to do cetus bounties where one of the Components is rare, on the highest bounty, will make people less inclined to try it. I agree that barring the 4 this has no eidolon esthetics and functions, it's 2 I think should function more like equinoxes 3 with the calm and frenzy augment i.e. The more hits you take the more damage reduction you get.
my sentiments exactly, however, revenant was changed since this video, though for worse with very similar problems. the new eidolon better have a "mind control" mechanic.
I think he should get a rework Passive: Elemantal damage resistance based on energy colour similar to chromas passive 1st ability: maybe the ability of eidelons have where that summon an orb which splits into a bunch of homing projectiles 2nd ability: an eidolon teleport sort of ability 3rd ability: long lasting orbital laser similar to vaubans rework 4th ability: same as current but the laser come from the had he is holding above his head and the lasers are more spread out in 360 degrees rather than 180 degrees
They could buff the health and armor of the thralls and replace his 3 with an eidolon call/cry were all thrall in the area heal him via death or reduced health
1 should just summon the pillars with their range damage attacks like they are now and allow high str pillars that don’t last long or basically just defences that last a while, 2 should have been a frenzy that buffs enemies but forces them to attack anything in sight, 3 should have been a slam that does void damage or whatever damage types eidolon do that has high knockback 4 should have been summon the little guys that give you health when they deal damage however channeled with a high cost per second so you can’t just immortal it, as for his passive it should have been build up resistances against a single damage type (first priority) however the opposite type will do additional damage proportionate to the built up resistance up to double damage and reset the damage type attunement He should also have more armour than that
If his geysers were changed to be like the eidolon's pulse when they get back up, that'd be cool. like you said, they walk into it, and it does a couple wide pulses. like, three? also i'm pretty sure his 3 is supposed to be like vomalyst's dash thing. it does look ugly as sin tho
Rvenant in my opinion is not properly thought out as there is a dead or alive type sentient already roams around in POE. If we take clues from those. The eidolon tears could be built in to revenant walk. So that it will stay for a while and damages enemy when walk into it. That will be passive. In active power department, that thrall boom mechanic would be like the seeking bombs from sky that terralyst does. Second power is ok for now. Also if i quickly re route to the passive you could say that more overshield means better armor or that sort of thing. Third ability is already useless like its cheap dash health leech rather it could be the overshield charger. The more enemy it dashes through the more shield it charges. Kind of like profit taker sentient shield. Well spider does not dash but overshield is the thing i remeber from such conversations. 4th power i dont know what it would be. Since there is no scaling of it and it gives the damage type to enemy who is weak to. For me apart from its second ability being an insurance for health depletion in Index i dont see any more usage in current build. Unless its build changes by some rework then yeah he can be immersive in battle.
Increase how many of his number 2 can have. Max 20, maybe even 30 depending on duration (personal preference). As for his 3..... GIVE HIM THE AOE SHOUT OF DEATH. Have it go through walls, stun enemies only in the initial shout and deal magnetic damage to all enemies in range. We don't get enough magnetic debuff if there are any warframes that do it at all but if not then make 3 the death spin where if it is combed with 4 you have a fast spinning death beam and 2 is active to make it hard for enemies to kill you. Also you could make him the eidolon slayer he used to be by making him the only frame that damages eidolon shields like the tenno do because THAT would give him some use. Maybe even a prime candidate for sentient slayer along side the umbras
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2 videos in one week? What is this timeline?
Also I feel like I should clarify that yes: I'm more than aware that Revenant is being changed in like.. A week or two. But that won't stop me from complaining! And like I said: I like having an idea of how a frame was like during their Week 1 interval. So ye, expect atleast some of these complaints and issues to be fixed as early as tomorrow if we're lucky
I didn't know he was beig fixed. Also, he's a sentiemt warframe...remember that last sentient we risk our LIVES TO SAVE!!! YA HER! Well, we have more than reason to complain. ;)
Where is that double handed katana? 🤔
Night Shade its *DE* Layed for Melee 3.0
Triburos actually if revenant takes one shot DMG with his 2nd he will be one shoted no matter how much charges you have
I really want to try out all of the new things in warframe but I can't ps4 profile is messing sooo
Petition to allow revenant to use 4 in relays for disco party’s
Maverick rudometkin petition to have the Carpenter Brut remix of Dance Macabre play when he does his 4
Ahem... *Where is M I R A G E?*
I can get behind this
How about a dance off? Revanent vs Inaros
Signed
I think revenant should be a tank that can grow immune to one type of damage at the time (like the sentients themselves) or maybe instead of possessing enemies you spawn little vomvalysts
Julian Borkulo like little baby mallets that draw aggro and then become void sperm geyser
Literally what I was thinking
AAAAAAH! Lil vomvalysts!? Dem cute murderers? It's awesome idea! I LOVE IT! *I WANT IT!!*
It would instantly be more cool, fun and useful.
Clem
Watch his 4 get nerfed and nothing else.
Wow, you're a wizard. Sure the Thrall cap got raised but that's nowhere near enough to warrant the nerf 4 got.
Brb, getting Loto numbers.
The Reaper Hunter Make another prediction all mighty one.
What will DE do after their long weekend?
It's sad how right we all where
@@TriburosOnline So revenant is just plain ba- below average now?
I'm ready for a Revenant rework followed by Revenant Prime just like Wukong.
Ozone the question is how would his prime work. Prime’s are supposed to be based off original Orokin design but Revenant was originally sentient?
@@-voiddemoni-9243 Revenant was previously known as the Warden. The Sentient that Gara defeated was actually still alive, just down at the bottom of a lake in the Plains. The Warden guarded the lake to make sure it wouldn't escape. Over time, the Sentient manipulated him into unwittingly providing an opportunity for it to make a comeback. To stop this, he jumped into the lake and sealed it himself. Because of all the time spent with it, the Sentient's energies changed him, turning him into the Revenant. So a Prime for him would probably just look like when he was the Warden.
I am still waiting for a primed version lol
@@chaotixthefox This is actually genius
Its been 2 years, wheres my revenant prime
This video aged badly as well, and i'm so glad.
Trib might be too, but even If he is, he probably could care less.
So rework then:
1 - Infuses enemy with Eidolon energy, making them go crazy ham (drastic increase in movement speed and attack speed), but deal less and take more damage per hit, when the duration expires or the enemy dies, the "jizz fountain" explodes out, growing in size and power over 10s dealing puncture damage based on base+damage taken, damage is doubled (second portion dealing impact) if the target was a boss or eximus. Ally frames (not rev) that stand in it instead get energy regen instead (how Voms charge op/frame for lure)
2 - Instead of 1 costing no energy on stunned units, a unit enraged by 1 now instantly drops a fully charged energy pillar (full base+bonus "damage absorbed" equal to the targets missing hp) that lasts only 5 seconds instead and lets Rev benefit from his pillars energy regen; also casting changed so that you can tap it for a single layer of mesmer skin which is a one handed animation (no movement interrupt) or held to go into a kneel on ground channel with as many stacks as energy cost allows (aka eidolon bullshit armor).
3 - Instead of fixed dash, its channeled and turns you ghostly/lets you phase through enemies while ignoring projectiles but not explosions, melee or lasers, lets you run faster, and have 25%+ aim glide/bullet jump. Every enemy you go through gets knocked down and have 15% of their max hp drained over 10 seconds which you recover as shields, (can grant overshields and will regen hp once they are full). Enraged enemies (and Voms on PoE) also start chasing you. When you return to physical form, all enraged enemies (and voms) in range have all of their armor and shields stripped (voms turn ghostly).
4 - Current spin2win lazor, but causes pillars to spawn every time a enraged enemy is hit (aka lets turn this into a eidolon rave) and all energy pillars increase the stun and knockdown duration enemies inside by 200%. When you stop doing spin2win, all pillars cause a magnetic proc (which while mostly pointless is accurate to what eidolons do).
JIZZ FOUNTAIN
Eidolons call for help from the Vomvalysts. Revenant turns people. It's similar enough for me to be ok with the concept of his 1. That does not excuse the cap at 4
would be cool if they healed revenant like the vomvalysts do - either while ure alive or when u down
That's two different things eidolon doesn't control people it calls for help revenant doesn't do that he controls people and makes them help him one ask for help the other force them and enslaves them
@Luke Fraczek RIGHT no one want to even try to fix revenant and say hes good and his moves fit his theme it doesn't his kit neither eidolon nor vampire at all hes a straight mess hes mediocre at best and needs a rework that fits his theme and help him and the team and for the love of God please remove his 1 and 2 people who this control enemy's is good don't know how incredibly retarded the controlled enemy's are and will just be dead in seconds and his 2 has a incredibly weakness that you will see at lv 70 or high because enemy's start doing critical hits and revenants 2 is useless to it he instantly dies when it hits and that shit drops when a group of enemies are attacking so goodbye heath and energy I don't need to explain his 3rd its just a worst version of cloud Walker and his 4 is useless in high mission because it falls out I'm sorry but if people actually say that revenant is a great frame then your saying that vauban is the best frame in the game
Revenant's 4 shall from now on be referred to as the * F U N K B U T T O N*
Crzzy GROOVY
Nah it is the dance dance Soviet revolution, all the peaseant enemies die from it. That and it barely helps the starving for content players.
Ravenent.
Boi, I just remembered something. When will we be spear men again? We only had 3 bosses yet, granted those were mutilated salad, elephantitis, and big sis.
Soon.TM
@@TriburosOnline hrrrrrrgggggg.
For real though. I've been waiting because I want to do big sis with you again, but hopefully whenever Soon.TM is, I don't get bugged and stunned into a corner by roller balls like last time
I really wish I could play on PC and join if you ever did any community stuff. But POTATO PC BOIS GTX660 YEAHHHHHH
For people watching a year after this vid was released: he has been patched extensively and has the following buffs: 7 thralls instead of 4, the energy pillars have been buffed extremely for damage and they also enthrall enemies, his second is recastable, his third has been changed to be modded for range and a few bugs where changed, his 4 deals damage specific to the enemy (corrosive for grinear, etc) (possibly mentioned in the vid coz this is an old mechanic, maybe I missed it). Animations have been changed to suite the sentient theme and also a useless after death ability to make a pillar when dead (mentioned it just coz I remember it, obv it's not going to do a lot of damage. Others things I'm too lazy to mention like the synergy between his first 3 and the fourth (don't remember the first two, but the third ability costs less energy while in 4). Opinion(as a humble fan not a full blown pro) : if your watching this vid from a year ago and you think he's shit you'll be surprised to know he's been buffed a lot. Judge the fixes yourself though. (pls really wanted to say he's basically a sentient hydroid looking at their simular synergies between abilities)
wow, thanks for the information man! the Warframe has a beauti desing and i wanted to know if they fixed him
@Stormer248 i agree. Tho i would also raise his thrall cap to something like 15-20. Seeing as how that's his main focus, it should at least be viable
@@neilhinton6477 then wreck the hole mission just by standing? Cool
Yeah no, he's still garbage and the new New War Frame is gonna be what he should've been.
@@lucasfraczek4320 ehhh rev got me through new war n majority of content literally never die wit rev just get ya build right
even the vomvalyst dash has more cool skill design than revenant trumps wall lol basically all his ability animation is recycled
Trump wall = Smoke and air
Good lord, what a underrated roast
We have bether trum wall already with boulder boi.
Revenant:
Enthrall: WTF is a "Nyx"
Mesmer Skin: Noone like Rhino anyway
Reave: Hey you know that Reinhardt guy from Overwatch?
Danse Macabre: BEYBLADE BEYBLADE LET IT RIP!
Rip nyx now it feels useless. If it weren't for those lactose reservoires tho she would have been kicked out
My number 1 fear when they revealed "vlad" the "eidolon frame" was that someone would realise that Revenant isn't a vampire, and try to make him more like an eidolon, but not take it far enough, and leave him somewhere uncomfortably in the middle. Seems like those fears were well founded. I really want to like Revenant, and it'd be cool if they made him more like the eidolons we fight, what with the sky laser beams, damage pools on the floor, mass knockbacks/energy fields, but it seems that the people working on him had a very difficult time defining what a sentient frame should be, and considering this was to be Rebecca's warframe, didn't want to change it too much. In my opinion, they should have scrapped the Mind Control parts of his kit and left that for Garuda, and her Blood shields, or another warframe in future, because that on its own is a cool concept with lots of potential.
Samuel King or kept the mind control stuff to a Nyx rework like most people thought.
I thought Titania was supposed to be Rebecca's frame.
Man looking back at this video 3 years later and now his consider the number 1 frame in steel path lmao
looking back at this video as a current rev main is so interesting
3:08, I would like to divert your eyes towards Yareli.
Some of those abilities look like they were left over from a vampire style frame, creating thralls and turning into a cloud of mist both seem pretty in line with traditional vampire lore.
I wonder if they will strip out those abilities in a rework and replace them with more...."sentienty" ones. Though even I don't know what that could entail.
Perhaps make his 1 akin to a Gara 1 but with a sentient beam?
Or even better summon vomalist
And hey, look at that, Revenant's 1 now makes sense for a sentient (although not an eidolon).
Make his 2 recastable while it's still up so you don't get the chroma problem of 'oh crap i have to wait for my defense to fail before i can refresh' and make it able to be cast while in his 4 even if that means a pause in his 4 that automatically resumes when his 2 is back up.
That only leaves his 1 and his 3.
His 1 could be made instantly a lot better if the thrall status spread like how saryn's spores do even with an initial cast limit of 4 thralls, to basically make it the CC centric cousin to Saryn's nuke. So I see it like... you have your four thralls. One thrall dies. Four enemies that are within ..I dunno five meters (unmoddable) of that thrall are now enthralled for the remaining duration and if any of those die before the duration ends pick four new enemies that have the remaining duration, and so on until duration ends on enthrall. Each then leaves a pillar that lasts however long they last now or shield restore or whatever. That spread mechanic i HOPE isn't so gonzo to be OP outside of edge cases because of the hard radius enemies have to be within to be enthralled as well as the 'make new minion' cap each fresh kill grants. Still mostly useful for setting up choke points, but a lot less micro-manag-y to do so. Also it turns duration into an important ability so Revanant isn't a pure 'I MUST HAVE POWER STRENGTH'
His 3... I don't like it really and the best I can come up with is allow us to travel in other directions with it like a duration based cloudwalker so say you're in your 4 and you hit a ledge. currently, you need to end his 4 hop over the edge and resume doom spin. With this cast 3 bam 'i'm not done with the spin cycle guys. C'mere for the laser rave show!' Also please for the love of FSM change the graphic it looks super weak... maybe make it look all eidolon'y like how vombulysts look when they dash. and a general speedup of animations would be nice to cap it all off.
Cast time on his 2 is terrible. I would make the thrall limit higher (like 8-14 maybe) and make his 1 able to hit small clusters of enemies in like 2-3 meter radius. It would still consume energy for each enemy hit but it would make his gameplay smoother. And this energy pillar thingys while having increases radius should attract enemies (not to shoot but to stand in them. Maybe make the AI consider it a cover or something) and have a slight vortex effect so it would slow down passing enemies.
And they did almost everything you suggested. Mesmer skin is now recastable and can be restored by reaving through thralls. The pillars that thralls left when dead were buffed and now can fire projectiles that enthrall others, reave is now vomvalyst charge and you can control it, so you can hit multiple enemies with it and exploit percentage damage. With those buffs, I think that Revenant is really good frame now.
Mesa base energy per second, 15/s.
Ravenat base energy per second, 20/s.
Okey. c:
*headbangs a wall*
That Tidus laughter. Echoing in the night.
Also his 3's box reminds me a lot of aerogel.
Yeah, they need to give him another look at lol.
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING MYSELF
It really did look like aerogel
Remember when Trib said a follow up revenant video was coming soon?
Oh boi this is why i love this channel
I feel like Steve when he released. Was also dissapointed. Im pretty sure the main team didnt have as much part in this cause of their fortuna stuff.
triburos another dank video keep it up KeK
"Yeah, alright I'm gonna go play some Monster Hunter"
*subscribed*
Turns out, he got nerfed
Horribly nerfed and the worst parts of his kit were given focus.
Fucking as expected of the incompetent DE.
sentients are my favorite race in warframe and seeing a sentient frame only having 1 sentient-ish ability (his 4, wich is like the hydro/gauntulyts laser disco attack) and all his other abilities having NOTHING to do with sentients is really sad. so much wasted potential
i think revenant would be much better If he was a "mini teralyst"
his skills being like the teralyst skills but not as strong
Such as the 1 being the orb it’s shoots upwards then splits into smaller homing projectiles like a slower nyx 1?
7:59 Ah, the old gas city tile set, it's good to see you
Finaly some one that touches on the lack cohesion between his aesthetic and his skills.
I like the giant laser coming down from the sky
I took a break from warframe and when I came back I head about a sentrient frame. I got all these ideas about what it would look like and then... this... thing.
What's the issue here? Creating interesting player versions of Sentient abilities should be P*ss-easy
*1: Most/(All?) sentients get immense damage resistance against whatever element they get exposed to.*
- Player ability: Have player get a temporary, but, ever increasing resistance against damage types they are exposed to.
_(This is almost so iconic to sentients, it should be a passive)_
*2: Some sentients can turn into a dust-devil that are completely immune to damage*
- Player ability: Time-limited ability that turns player into an invulnerable dust-devil (with vaccuum effect).
(An extremely powerful ability that limits the players' mobility(and operator?), could be combined with #1 above.)
*3: Sentients seem to be able to track you wherever you are*
- Player ability: Get a large radius of Radar, Loot detector, etc (upkeep/timelimited)
*4: Energy leech ability. While I don't know of a sentient that has this - it feels more "sentient-esque" than enthrallment.*
Could be combined with energy distribution: I.e Link drain from powerful NPC to player, then one to give excess energy to a linked team-mate
Four examples that took less than 5 minute to come up with and write down... Almost all with effects & code that already exist.
*DE - What are you doing?!*
interesting that 1. and 2. are the direct inspirations to his 2 and 3 as discussed on dev stream
Well non of those abilities deal actual damage, and damage is reeeallly important. They also dont give you much crowd controll. And if you look closely, you can see that it would just become a weird mix of "Insert any frame with an ability to be invencible or take less damage" and Trinity (because of the energy leech) and no one would use the third ability, so... Yeah... It's more difficult than it seems.
Didn't actually watch the devstream - but (as I've shown) - doesn't take a genius to come up with them. :)
QED. :)
As a console player I'm hoping he gets reworked or De see this comment and rethinks his ability before the update gets to console. I was so hyped sucks he isn't as good as he could be
@corle01
I didn't mean for these to be a 1-1 replacement of the 1 through 4.
Just... a replacement for "making thralls that does nothing"... where I would gladly have had a variant of Trinities EV, or an ability that detects mobs. (for example) NB: I gave it
tribology The study of Triburos
Most people do forget he’s not meant to be a *Sentient* frame, but an Eidolon frame. They may be from the same lifeform, but Eidolons are basically spectral sentients. Sentients who are not quite whole. The giant eidolons on the plains show this. They’re all from the same sentient that was destroyed and blown apart by Gara. They constantly roam the plains looks for their pieces to put themselves back together.
Even though it’s been years, I do hope Revenant gets a rework to be more eidolon-like. I’m a Revenant main, but his least useful power is enthrall (unless you specifically spec into power strength and duration to instantly delete enemies with his 3).
I gotta say that revenant became my fifth favorite warframe in the game. I just discovered that i could 2 hit k.o. level 95 enemies with 1 cast of enthrall and then eunning into them a couple of time with reave.
Keep in mind that this is after the "rework"
Have you since found out about 250% strength onehits? If not, OH BOY DO I HAVE NEWS
In my honest opinion, i sadly don't like Revenant, i found his kit to be so all over the place, some are battalist powers, others are Eidolons and some are just random.
Me as a player that really like Loki saying that Revenent skills are boring is sad, Loki allows you to learn and improve you playstyle, Revenent is 4, 2, 4, 2, 4, 2 that don't scale.
For me i would prefered his 4 to be like the Eidolon raining bullets, that way you would be allowed to move freely, and in bonus wouldn't have that ugly animation, btw your lasers can't shoot through some abilities like Gara's wall glass.
OLoKo64 they nerfed him so much when he was in early game
This a problem tha newer frames have, they lack focus, they tried to make vlad here a vampire and a eidalon he will need a brutal rework, because he is now full sentient, if you pick magic boi bimbo is straigth foward, he control space and have a magigian astetic, even if he is one of the most complex warframe his motive is simple, buth afther harrow they tried to do 2 things in 1 and its not as good now.
Well, actually revenant is more like 2,1,3,1,3,1,3 since reave deals percentage damage and you can oneshot your thralls on any level. That really helped me when i was doing kela de thaym sortie.
I feel like if his 4 shot the lasers from his raised hand would still be goofy looking, if only because he'd still be a crazy robot man shooting lasers while spinning like a beyblade
1 year later he is one of the best frames in the game lol
Sike
Fuck no he isn't.
I think that reave is like how the vomvalsyt do their dash attack when you break their first layer of armor with the operator and their armor regenerates. However this doesn't make much sense as an ability because that is a vomvalyst trait, and revenant takes the theme of being the teralyst/gauntalyst/hydrolyst controlling/commanding the vomvalyst.
For his one, I’m thinking he could have an ability where he sleeps into the ground (I.e the Eidolons when destroying a synovia) and he stays in the ground for a short period of time, and when he casts his one again, he ejects causing a geyser of energy to shoot from the ejection point, or (with an augment) have that large geyser explode into 4-5 smaller versions and track enemies
Revenant is getting close to one of my favorite frames so I actually really like him. I dont think he is bad or dissapointing. I think he is pretty fun.
Revenants are like onions...
*THEY HAVE LAYERS*
Revenant, Mirrage and Octavia, disco squad
Yo a space laser would be really similar to the gantulyst who sends space lasers at you while you try to beat him down.
*4 becomes exalted laser hands* YOU HAPPY NOW *xD*
Definitely agreeing with you. His one can be fixed tho. Instead of enthralling enemies you could just summon a number of enthralls being like small holographic vomvalists that deal damage to enemies but more importantly healing you and allies over time, working like the vomvalists the eidolons call for help at the end. His dash could just become like the eidolon teleport (but change the square into an actual „circle“ -ish hitbox that scales at an more or less logical way with power strength/range) and his 2 could just be recastable to fix it.
Please DE give Revenant (any EVERY Warframe that needs a rework) to make him the pocket-sized Gantulyst I always wanted.
It's crazy how years later Caliban came out and had the same type of issues
Do I smell a Monter Hunter video coming up?
Also sns master race
Tell D.E to give him an ability that when he activates it, for 5 seconds it tracks what damage he takes and then for the next few minutes he gets near complete damage reduction to the type he got hit by for 5 seconds
Yeah he should have an ability to create a shockwave over the ground and an ability to start firing energy bullets
I kinda wanted revenant to go kaiju since he's linked to the eidolon. as for his first ability it should be swapped out for a directional beam that wipes out enemys and turns them into the meteors that the eidolon has , this would act like hydroids first ability but deal radiation.
Oh but there’s *MOAR* what about Octavia the DJ, revenant the laser light show, ash for smoke, banshee with sound distortion, and mirage as the disco ball.
That glitch is by far the most useful part of his first ability. I like his ability kit. But it requires a lot of buffs. More thralls are required. He's 3 has a visual design problem, I'm glad someone mentioned it, at last. His 2 needs to function differently. The trall pods or stuff that falls on the ground could move around, that would also be an upgrade and overshields do worm against his passive. But they allow for more survivability so I don't mind it.
I think the 1 can be fixed by instead of enthralling enemies, having those vonvolists be like little bombs. His 3 can be fixed by reducing its cost by like 50% and having the goofy fog rectangle replaced with a rounded semi-circle of blue forcefield, I agree with you about his 4. His 2 can be fixed by establishing each cast as providing 10 charges base, but increasing the held charges cap to 20 base (with some reduction in the effectiveness of power strength on number of charges, that way people aren't running around with more than 30 or so)..
Kugo the mighty plays Warframe. You two have the darn same voice
The pillars could give energy and 1 ability could be switched out for that lightning or maybe allow it to build stacks like inaros, per 25 stacks his 4 gets more of those terralyst abilities
i have a thought with the three. if they fix the smoke to work more like the elytron's 2 where smoke follows you, then it might make it better. his passive i can't say if it's good or bad, but what it could be is he works like a vomvalyst and inaros where while he's downed he can still go around and cast his abilities in the second part of vomvalyst. I think if that was added and while in this mode his abilities changed slightly (not like replacing the ability, just changing what they do) then they could make someone similar to Leoric in heroes of the storm who can revive himself and aid his allies while dead (on revenant for example, any enemies hit by his 3 would temporarily slowed for a few seconds and also takes some of their life to revive himself). now i'm not saying to make another inaros, just trying to give an idea of how revenant may be better. I will say though, i think he should be able to summon vomvalysts. I mean octavia has rollers. just let the guy have sentient minions that are atleast decent or give him a BS orbital strike that goes through different planes of reality.
Edit: what if his passive had something to do with adaptation? like he slowly adapted to damage received or only when he received procs.
"He can always be buffed"
Technically you can recast Iron Skin, but you need the augment for it.
Watch soon DE releases bandaid augment for Revenant 2 to make it recastable.
I feel like instead of thralls enemies shouls be transformed into low level Mimics scaling with the level of the mission, at that rate with dps minions and their damage reduction the cone dps would be unnecessary, also fits the sentient theme better. As far as his "layers" it would be an interesting mechanic to make each layer absorb damage equal to twice the armor of enemies within ten meters, so (Sum of enemy armor in range) x 2, with a drawback of making range mods not effect it. However to fit the sentient theme this could also be turned into the sentiments ability to nullify recent damage types. As far as the three, up the damage and make it actually look like a vomvalyst dash and its good.
Wow revenant primes here time travels fast
a revisit of this video, just sad he wasn't twist that much after week or two (and that one good thing got nerfed*), but i still love him.
What about for his 1, when a thrall dies revenant gets an energy refund equal to a portion of energy invested boosted by range or efficiency or strength(?) or gets added as power strength to his nxt cast ??
Don’t forget that the laser ball thing also applies to the Gauntalysts, instead of making it rain explosive bolts of energy (like the Teralysts and Hydrolysts), they shoot a disco ball above their bodies that functions like the Battalysts’ disco balls.
I was thinking that the ability reworks for Revenant could be this. Also every ability can be affected by strength, range, or both.
Passive: Bonus damage to sentience.
Ability 1: Activating this ability will cause all enemies to give a status effect on you, you will then be immune to the first four different status effects. Once you have immunity to any status effect, you can then activate the ability again to release a blast giving enemies the four status effects you were immune to.
Ability 2: Your Warframe will spin causing a tornado, this tornado will attract enemies and cause damage.
Ability 3: You use your immunities to support your teammates in this order first immunity will give an overshield, second will give health, third will give armor, and fourth will give energy. This base stat for support is 50.
Ability 4: This ability can stay the same.
Feel like the 1 should just spawn an army of Vomvolisc (the little sentients) which can be used to either attack or heal, similar to the eidolon fights.
I though revenant was deigned to be an orokin corrupted BY sentient energy
My rework idea: Passive; Basically an inate adapation.
1: Spawn 4 vomvalysts, basically normal vomvalysts with a different color or design idc, these vomvalysts deal damage and draw aggro while not being able to die, recast one to have them all return to you and give health and energy like the eidolons do based on how much damage they took, new vomvalysts scale off how much damage the previous did and thus deal more damage. Is effected by power strength efficiency and duration.
2: An marker on your screen will show up on the floor, cast again and a beam of sentient energy will strike from the sky, dealing damage and procing magnetic for a set amount of time, hold to focus and have the beam follow your cursor. Friendly Vomvalysts hit by this beam spawns a double of it. Giving 8 potential vomvalysts. The extra 4 count as normal and can be used to gain energy. Is effected by strength range efficiency and duration.
3: Consume all your shields instead of energy to have a constant explosion of sentient energy in a small radius, shields do not regen when this ability is active. Absorbing Vomvalysts add more damage and range based on how much damage they dealt, up to 2x damage and range, blast also procs knockdown. Is effected by range strength and duration.
4: Literally the same except if you have 3 active, a shot of energy is fired into the air to rain down on enemies dealing damage.
You can probably tell this is inspired by eidolons, cuz I love how they're designed, strong n flashy.
I think his first ability is from the vampire part of his development, that or more like a zombie type of deal. Because I not sure about this it supposed to be like it is on ps4. But you can get an army of those thralls on ps4.
I think he should have an ability that makes his thrall regen his health and shield, like vomvalysts on an eidolon
I think his thralls do fit the sentient design because of how the eidolon controlled him so maybe they based it off of that possibly....
Gauntalyst lasers come out of the ground not from the sky, other than that spot on.
That would actually be cool if he had his vomvalysts he could summon instead of his enthrall
In my opinion his 1 should make the characters it's used on act like sentients and basically have adaptation like sentients have. And they should also be able to use a weaker version of his 4 like the batalyst (I think)
I too am not dissappointed in the effectiveness of his kit, but on how the "sentient warframe" was handled. Sentients are most notorious for their capability to adapt to any damage, so I think the adaptation mod as a passive would ve a great fit, and to balance it out, you loose 5% HP each time you go into operator mode, since sentients are weak against void damage.
i just want a good summoner frame *cries internally*
I've been playing revenant as of recent and I got to argue that he is actually quite fun and useful. took him to mot survival for a bit and apart from issues with energy, I fairly enjoyed playing with him while solo. I got 7-10 thralls on mine which is a fair number and I just let them distract other enemies while I pick off specific enemies that would cause any problems like heavies and ancients. Also his 3 synergies with his one in quickly killing enthralled enemies.
They should just make his one all about the void spots and make them do max health damage of the target it came from. Not a lot just enough to help with scaling. Turn the mind control aspect into like a spreading radiation proc that marks the afflicted.
His two just needs to be recoded all together. It doesn’t stop splash dmg, nullifier shots, and only scales to dmg equal to your total ehp.
And then Kuva Liches came out and they all died to Reave.
well thralls and thrall damage pillars go well if instead of killing enemies you kill thralls in gunfights so your thralls can unfect other thralls while leaving more and more damage pillars as you kill them
I agree with your point that Revenant dosent feel like a proper sentient I want Revenant to be a war machine like the eidolons not nyxs rework
It's crazy how revenant is an S tier Warframe now...
I think revenants 4 ability animation would be better if the top of his head came of sorta like limbo then had that spin around above him
My idea for his two. Enemies that harm you are automatically enthralled. If they are unable to be enthralled(if they're a boss or if you have max thralls) they take a set amount of damage that they have the least defense against. If Revenant is a warframe touched by the sentient, and became the ultimate sentient hunter, I feel they should play into the adaptation ability of the sentient. If sentient can adapt defense, perhaps Revenant can adapt offense.
Must have finished building in the foundry now, time to test it. The fact that we need to do cetus bounties where one of the Components is rare, on the highest bounty, will make people less inclined to try it. I agree that barring the 4 this has no eidolon esthetics and functions, it's 2 I think should function more like equinoxes 3 with the calm and frenzy augment i.e. The more hits you take the more damage reduction you get.
my sentiments exactly, however, revenant was changed since this video, though for worse with very similar problems. the new eidolon better have a "mind control" mechanic.
I think he should get a rework
Passive: Elemantal damage resistance based on energy colour similar to chromas passive
1st ability: maybe the ability of eidelons have where that summon an orb which splits into a bunch of homing projectiles
2nd ability: an eidolon teleport sort of ability
3rd ability: long lasting orbital laser similar to vaubans rework
4th ability: same as current but the laser come from the had he is holding above his head and the lasers are more spread out in 360 degrees rather than 180 degrees
I require an actual sentient frame
They could buff the health and armor of the thralls and replace his 3 with an eidolon call/cry were all thrall in the area heal him via death or reduced health
1 should just summon the pillars with their range damage attacks like they are now and allow high str pillars that don’t last long or basically just defences that last a while,
2 should have been a frenzy that buffs enemies but forces them to attack anything in sight,
3 should have been a slam that does void damage or whatever damage types eidolon do that has high knockback
4 should have been summon the little guys that give you health when they deal damage however channeled with a high cost per second so you can’t just immortal it,
as for his passive it should have been build up resistances against a single damage type (first priority) however the opposite type will do additional damage proportionate to the built up resistance up to double damage and reset the damage type attunement
He should also have more armour than that
If his geysers were changed to be like the eidolon's pulse when they get back up, that'd be cool. like you said, they walk into it, and it does a couple wide pulses. like, three?
also i'm pretty sure his 3 is supposed to be like vomalyst's dash thing. it does look ugly as sin tho
It would’ve been cool if his 4 was like Atlas’ 4 and he could spawn mini eidolons that actually do some good damage.
The pillars of energy that thralls turn into should replenish warframe energy like zenurik dash but way more energy...that’d be sweet!!!!!
able to turn stalker into an ally... 10/10 warframe
Rvenant in my opinion is not properly thought out as there is a dead or alive type sentient already roams around in POE. If we take clues from those. The eidolon tears could be built in to revenant walk. So that it will stay for a while and damages enemy when walk into it. That will be passive. In active power department, that thrall boom mechanic would be like the seeking bombs from sky that terralyst does. Second power is ok for now. Also if i quickly re route to the passive you could say that more overshield means better armor or that sort of thing. Third ability is already useless like its cheap dash health leech rather it could be the overshield charger. The more enemy it dashes through the more shield it charges. Kind of like profit taker sentient shield. Well spider does not dash but overshield is the thing i remeber from such conversations. 4th power i dont know what it would be. Since there is no scaling of it and it gives the damage type to enemy who is weak to. For me apart from its second ability being an insurance for health depletion in Index i dont see any more usage in current build. Unless its build changes by some rework then yeah he can be immersive in battle.
Increase how many of his number 2 can have. Max 20, maybe even 30 depending on duration (personal preference).
As for his 3.....
GIVE HIM THE AOE SHOUT OF DEATH. Have it go through walls, stun enemies only in the initial shout and deal magnetic damage to all enemies in range. We don't get enough magnetic debuff if there are any warframes that do it at all but if not then make 3 the death spin where if it is combed with 4 you have a fast spinning death beam and 2 is active to make it hard for enemies to kill you. Also you could make him the eidolon slayer he used to be by making him the only frame that damages eidolon shields like the tenno do because THAT would give him some use. Maybe even a prime candidate for sentient slayer along side the umbras