I am 100% sure Energy Nexus is the real reason Nourish is getting nerfed in Helminth. Because of that mod I put Nourish on Warframes like Frank's Red Hot on food.
@@Koranthus in this game and age outwith index or rathuum thats a non issue , eximus will force drop , synth mods on pets , various warframe abilities so yes its relative but "relative" to current game state its very strong due to over abundance of health orb sources
@@RossKyle95 Sure, but constant regen is always better to contingent regen, regardless of the source, because you will always get energy back from enemies as long as you kill enough, adding on out of combat energy regen is very useful on top of being essentially immune to magnetic procs with Nourish regenerating 12 energy per second. Even the base 3 is still pretty in a vacuum. I know Equilibrium is much better than it was but moving to a point where you don't rely on pickups can be pretty useful.
@@Koranthus inside a vacuum but pickups are so present in the game it’s not even close the energy you get , also equilibrium applies on drain abilities being active so it’s ya know technically more active haha , nourish just makes equilibrium stronger just so easy to get health orbs and energy drops it’s not even really a thought with having it present , Jesus even some frames can get away with just using the much reduced amount shards give vs full mods , but energy nexus be nice still especially on index and the likes
I doubt it. Hes insanely good but wukong got hit specifically because he could sit in a corner, lick his own toes while his clone evaporated the room with infinite bramma shots. Rev, while definitely defensively ridiculous, still needs to actively be played. He essentially has a leveled up version of Iron skin or warding halo. Plus his usage rate is nowhere near as high as wukongs was (thank the Chinese for that) and his ability to destroy with weapons is solely due to his defensive abilities, not a innate massive buff to them
You still have to actually do something for revenant to kill things, wukong got nerfed because he pressed 1 and could walk away and the mission would play itself
Possibly, but I think the only thing that needs to be done is reduce the invulnerability window with his Mesmer Skin from 1 second to like...half a second? Quarter at most? Imo he's not exactly a problem, he isn't automating gameplay or map wiping with his 4. It's just that he's very comfy and very safe as a frame. Overused is not indicative of a frame being overpowered
@@S0M3GUY778this was his problem with introduction of overguard on eximus units just eating his charges away , that’s why he gets the window per charge , o it thing they could reasonably do IF they did would be reduce base charge amount , the delays between charges is fine and needed , plenty other frames can stay effectively invincible
ya know other people post build vids right? also its revenant, hes the most simple frame in the game to make a build on since its just strength and an ever so slight amount of energy sustain
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The amount of people crying in this comments section is crazy 😭 Why do yall care so much in a pve game about a singular characters survivability? Rev is not afk farming like the wukong glazers from his pre nerf days, he's not room wiping before you can even press a button like a saryn, he's not just sitting there having the game play itself like a Octavia. Let the rev players just enjoy their character without the whining, its honestly a lot more telling that you'd rather undermine the character lol. I've been playing rhino since I first started warframe before making my way to kullervo. I remember how much people used to hate and cry about iron skin being "op" years ago and now we move on to rev. It's legitimately so childish to whine about something you don't find "fun". The people who are just excited to see a rev build get a chain of people responding to them telling them character is boring lol. Really pathetic that'd yall would rather be pessimistic about the fun they're having instead of just letting others enjoy themselves
I don't think he mentions it but it's almost certainly not important. Aura mods usually are just for taste unless you're going for a Combat Discipline build etc. Just throw whatever you want in there.
Same provides arguably the best amount of survivability (with the rival of rhino and his iron skin) and the easiest to understand i personally build a revenant designed for steel path and I've always tested my builds since the murmur came out on the murmur hollow veins (both Warframes and weapons)
Man, i havwnt changed my Revenant buold in AGES...and I still use it for Archin Showdowns. But, now that I'll have the base 'frame back, suppose an update wouldn't hurt...well, wouldn't hurt ME; I'm certain the enemies will be very hurt.
I haven't tried it yet but would green shards work for his 4, the corrosive application was pretty good the last time I tested it, could be a fun build to make his 4 better at steelpath.
They do work! Its still a bit too expensive for average build to spin a lot, but it absolutely works, and once it strips all armor from enemy it starts stacking viral.
@@ChosenSewen it’s not quite like baruuk it won’t change , it will keep proccing corrosive but at that point it’s damage catches up and they die fast anyways
So basically build for 2 and add nourish to 4 (keep in mind the nerfs when it hits) then use incarnon weapons. Though you don’t need incarnon weapons for end game. You can still use cedo, tenet arca plasmor, bubonico, nataruk, etc to melt things.
It's strange that on most warframe the go-to ability to replace is the 4th... 4th is the identity of each warframe, its signature move that sets it apart from the other warframes.
They also tend to be severely hindered, or from an era where that wasn't actually the case (Ah yes, a vampire frame... what should his ultimate, frame-defining ability be? I know! DISCO LASERS! *me facepalming*). Exalted weapons? Can't get or use many of the best mods and arcanes. There are definitely frames where that's not the case. For example Titania really only has 2 abilities. Her 1 for status immunity and her 4.
Nope. Saryn is 1 Mag is 2 Wukong is either 1 or 2 Volt is honestly the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th Nidus is his passive Khora is 1 Atlas is 1 Rev is 2 Nezha is 2 Etc
Murmur enemies are extremely resistant if not immune to viral (some of them anyway) also if you're going to test weapons and Warframes I would recommend using the murmur hollow veins (and the eximus counter part) not due to their difficulty and frustration on killing them but their extremely resilience to certain procs (I have gone against the murmur on steel path at enemy level 5000 and onwards and even my torid incarnon was struggling with the power of roar on revenant and the roar was at 102%)
The more i dive into the subsume mechanics, the other i frankly hate it. Havent played since the end of 2019, so coming back and seeing how just about every frame now has Nourish, or Dispensary or Eclipse on it takes away from their individual identities as frames IMO.
Yea I kinda agree. Can also lead to poor design decisions being completely ignored for a long period of time. If I don’t like the frame’s base kit, there isn’t a helminth ability in the world that could save it for me.
You can still use helminth and keep frame identity. Just can't do the typical slapping of nourish/roar/eclipse on them Like with gyre, she's great but to push higher sp easily she's missing an armor strip. Slap pillage over her 1 or 2 depending on preference and now she's a walking electric ball of death and mayhem Ember actually has a really effective combo with sentient wrath essentially perma knockdown every enemy as well as stripping Armour and giving them a damage multiplier to your weapons. Qorvex with armoir strip or breach surge just let's the chest laser kill even easier and do some dummy damage If the frame or build has strip you can use a grouping ability from helminth and do some funny gas shenanigans There's even a pretty good mag build that uses well of life/blood altar of all things and it just makes magnetize even more magnetizing
I think you'd be wrong to call Revenant the "best weapons platform", more like the easiest. Rhino with the new buffed Reinforcing stomp builds also has survivability that scales to level cap, and with high range he just needs to percent heal his iron skin with his stomp around 3-4x as often as Revenant needs to recast mesmer. Definitely less convenient but not too major when you consider that stomp is doing a lot of other things like 97.5% slowing overguarded enemies without line of sight checks. Rhino then gets to slot nourish over his 1 AND have undiminished roar for the most ridiculous weapon buffs barring saryn.
@@Brozime it wouldn't be correct to call Volt the best nuker because his nuking is just 1 ability press. Saryn's nuking is more complicated and involves you actively thinking about going here and there to garden efficiently. But it produces a greater overall effect so she's the queen of nuking and widely considered the best nuker.
@@felix_patriot the only reason that's true is because Volt's 4 isn't very effective. If his 4 wiped the map consistently of all enemy types like Saryn it would be better. Effectiveness > Effort but only when you actually use the effectiveness.
@@Brozime You couldn't be more right. And my exact point is that the effectiveness of the new Nourish/Reinforcing Stomp Rhino, in a competent squad, far exceeds that of Revenant, while only being moderately more effort. In a random squad, for sure Mesmer Shield is providing something invaluable. But good squads will see a lot more value in an additional +150% faction damage on all of their weapons AND abilities, as well as being able to slow almost any enemy in a base 25m radius by 97.5% ignoring overguard and line of sight checks on a tap cast.
Or you can also give them 100% + roar with precision intensify and Mesmer shield on top of that. Rev is just better, I say this as someone who has rhino prime as most played frame.
Hey Brozime. I've been following your videos for a long time and been wondering, whether it's possible for you to make a high level murmur guide? I have pretty good builds and do read the wiki, know their (elemental) weaknesses but for some reason I'm having such a hard time with killing them. Corrupted or Grineer at the same level pose no threat, but the Murmur just seem like a barrier to me...
I've been on murmur steel path survival with revenant and I can say that most of them are extremely resistant to viral and slash if not immune to it (corrosive is alright but not as effective) toxin, heat and radiation will be your best elements not sure about blast but wouldn't recommend blast (my torid incarnon was struggling with the help of roar at 102% once it got to enemy level 4800 on steel path) beware of the hollow veins on murmur steel path survival are an major threat (along side the one with 3 arms forgotten its name) acolytes are not the biggest threat apart from violence and misery (the reason why the hollow veins are the major threat because of their resistance and how hard it is to actually hit them and they can also drain your energy and hit hard but arena and single)
I completed the MR34 test with revenant, energy siphon and energy nexus. I built a machine out of Lego that slowly presses the 2 key and I passed the test with no user input.
This build is just amazing. I swap flow for stretch to get back some range to share that nourish buff and together with mesmer shield I make the team pretty much invulnerable, give infinite energy and boost their damage significantly. Only Wisp could perhaps rival these buffs.
Haven't played Warframe in 4 years some how Revenant is themost played Warframe and the furis is a good weapon? Glad I have no idea what's going on or I'd be tempted to get back into it.
Isn't it pretty bad to run so much ability strength on Nourish? It dilutes your status proc pool making the corrosive procs (that you want 14 of to 100% armor strip) take ages to build up.
I know that Nourish got nerfed since this video, but is it still worth helminthing it onto Revenant since the nerf or would I be better using something like Roar instead?
you dont need primed flow loose it so many other cool mods to play with instead boreals anguish for one thrall pact to incresae primanry damgage to name a few i have firewalker and one shard for parkour velocity and boreals give you hang time and neg 75 gravity and the amalgam mods on weapons to boost movemnet too
More like whatever is the easiest way to being the most powerful instead of skilled play (even though I play as revenant that's when I'm doing the one weapon only challenge, testing weapons and companions or going to very high enemy levels on steel path), they're out of options or by choice and it's their preferred Warframe
I play warframe on/off so i dont keep up with everything, what is he doing with his operator? Like his school and his amp since I wasnt aware there aware there are more gun amps.
revenant is amazing, but he it is really weird he is great because he can be indestructible and he just boost your primary to an ludicrous level, so he is the perfect survival/exterminate frame. high damage and high defense but he is too comfortable now, i would expect a nerf that changes that otherwise they have to boost the defensive and offensive options of other frames like excal, mag and vauban
i played old revenant for quite abit, i think mesmer was okay in those times too i still soloed index with him, took him to farm hyldrin and so on. it was not great, but honestly it was pretty decent@@noahedenborg4221
Yes and no. Rev has actual abilities that do useful things, but he's missing Inaros complete immunity to have toughness removed through nullifying. Imo he's pretty overrated but people like really comfy and easy builds.
Woops totally forgot to mention I’ve been testing it and since his aura slot doesn’t necessarily need to be any particular thing the hp regen + half Esiphon is actually very nice for Netracells to counteract the few things that will lower your health as they can kill you if you aren’t careful while recasting but it’s not a big enough + to consider running like rejuvenation.
Probably will only impact frames that needed the help and not the ones who just like it. Likely just widens the gap between good and bad frames if the nerf is bad
Whenever I just want to shoot stuff and enjoy the strength of my guns alone I play Revenant. He’s great for that. Almost too good. I also like having a small army of Thralls do the mobile defense missions for me. Surprisingly good at that to. Honestly, any WarFrame that doesn’t feel like it requires Max Arcane Energize is awesome to me.
@@vanhohenheim9083 Rhino, Nezha, Wukong, and Kulvero. Rhino and Nezha both can buff your weapons. Wukong can use 2 different weapons at once with his clone. Kulvero greatly enhances all melee weapons and his abilities make single target weapons actually good at AoE.
i'm glad this is a thing, and the subject of this video is Revenant. Right now Revenant's thralls are immune to warframe abilities. i don't know if this was intended, but the reason why Nyx's mind control target is immune is because it's just that one enemy and it's being completely "mind controlled." When i see a Revenant in the party and i was intending to play Saryn, Volt, Garuda, Dagath, Khora, or most any "ability does damage" warframe i have to abort that mission or leave early because every enemy Revenant enthralls means my "deeps" are not happening. But if i bring a Revenant to do the spinning lasers that works on them for some reason...
Nourish here is nice but if they nerf it too much I'll honestly switch to Roar and likely not care at all as Revenant since his energy economy like this is more than perfect but was already very good. Other Warframes will be hurt much more by big nourish nerfs
I can accept this build is functional, but I don't like it. Nourish makes it take longer to get your green shards to strip and I don't agree with parkour velocity on Revenant if you haven't helminthed over Reave because that's your speed skill and it scales with sprint speed. It takes a bit of practice, but Reaving from one Exolizer to the next is a lot faster. Also, it's worth pointing out that (while I wouldn't recommend it on Cascade, it's better in Circuit) Danse Macabre can strip with green shards and then change it's damage type to be more effective on health. The number of procs you get per second scales with Ability Range
„Nourish makes it take longer to get your green shards to strip“ This is true; but its hardly relevant with the rate at which a good status weapon inflicts procs. I would be more concerned with getting less Heat procs than with not having 14 Corrosive procs. „Reaving from one Exolizer to the next is a lot faster“ Reave has lower control than bullet jumping and no verticality. You can call it a taste thing, but most people prefer the control the parkour system gives them over their movement. „Danse Macabre can strip with green shards and then change its damage type to be more effective against health“ This isn‘t true though. Danse Macabre only deals Corrosive against armored enemies, Magnetic against enemies that have shields, and Gas against Infested. Even if it could change: corrosive deals more damage against Grineer with no armor than gas does. It cannot deal Viral damage. Most of the time dealing Corrosive against only partially armor stripped enemies will result in more damage. „the number of procs you get per second scales with ability range“ This would be nonsensical even if it were true; luckily its false. Pressing the fire button increases the status chance from 20 to 40 percent. What range does is it increases the thickness of the beams, potentially giving you some rare moments where it allows a beam to hit when it otherwise would not. I‘ve never heard of the wider beams producing additional damage instances though.
i just tested his range claim with green shards, its false info and does not work and basically works the way you mentioned holding the button increases status not range@@mayhemivory5730
I hardly disagree with this build. I think precision intensify seams like a bad trade to me because you definitly want umbral intensify so you can also get more mesmer stacks instead of just boosting your 4th. Primed Flow in my eyes is also pretty useless on Revenant because he‘s not the tipical Caster Frame who needs a big Energy pool unless you use a heavy cast subsume which nourish isn‘t. Revenant is the type of guy that casts Mesmer Skin and his Subsume buff like Roar or Xata‘s once every 60ish seconds depending on the duration of the 4th subsume skill and basically don‘t spam that many abbilitys so why would you need a bigger energy pool? This could much better another QOL Mod like casting speed, more parkour velocity or for eyample vigorous swap for a weapon platform Revenant.
I’ve been using a similar build for a while now, but opted to drop PFlow for Augur Secrets and Energy Nexus for Energy Conversion for even more strength. Definitely overkill, but really nice.
Best weapons platform ... why because he can't die. Stupidest thing I've heard. Saryn is way better mirage chroma and many others can go to level cap and buff guns wayyyyy better and also can use nourish. I understand brozime has an audience to pander to and there for tells them what they want to hear as opposed to what they need to hear but damn
@@barryz8858 yes i said chroma ... when you stop letting ppl tell you what to think and think for your self youd see hes actually really good. now, ik ik you dont like thinking youve been fed a lie because then you's have to admit youre not perfect. but ask yourself whats worse continueing to believe a lie or admiting you are not perfect. saryn uses her ablities to kill and she can use them to buff her weapons making her a weapons platform if you want to go that way with her and she is more than capable of doing so making her a better weapons platform than revenant. what from revenants kit does ANYTHING to his weapons ? the answer is nothing without helmenth. the stuff you say really shows how out of touch you are with the game. guess thats why you like revenant ... you dont know how to survive w/o his mesmerskin. you have a gaming skill issue.
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"You're invincible? That's just rude".
Look who's talking Revenant.
I am 100% sure Energy Nexus is the real reason Nourish is getting nerfed in Helminth. Because of that mod I put Nourish on Warframes like Frank's Red Hot on food.
Energy nexus isn’t even as strong as equilibrium never mind nourish plus equilibrium , it’s just something that’s been coming for a while
@@RossKyle95 Equilibrium is reliant on enemies dropping stuff, "strong" is relative.
@@Koranthus in this game and age outwith index or rathuum thats a non issue , eximus will force drop , synth mods on pets , various warframe abilities so yes its relative but "relative" to current game state its very strong due to over abundance of health orb sources
@@RossKyle95 Sure, but constant regen is always better to contingent regen, regardless of the source, because you will always get energy back from enemies as long as you kill enough, adding on out of combat energy regen is very useful on top of being essentially immune to magnetic procs with Nourish regenerating 12 energy per second. Even the base 3 is still pretty in a vacuum. I know Equilibrium is much better than it was but moving to a point where you don't rely on pickups can be pretty useful.
@@Koranthus inside a vacuum but pickups are so present in the game it’s not even close the energy you get , also equilibrium applies on drain abilities being active so it’s ya know technically more active haha , nourish just makes equilibrium stronger just so easy to get health orbs and energy drops it’s not even really a thought with having it present , Jesus even some frames can get away with just using the much reduced amount shards give vs full mods , but energy nexus be nice still especially on index and the likes
I've been excited for an updated Revenant build, thank you so fucking much.
Why revenant is the most boring frame in the entire game besides maybe inaros
Revenant has no build variety. Just put on strength...
Revenant is so boring only reason ppl play him is because they suck at surviving ie playing a major part of the game
if youre waiting on someone to make a revenant build, thats kinda sad
Bro really needed help for a Revenant build as if it is not all strength and duration with nourish or an armor strip
Thank you! I've been waiting so long for this refesh (I know you've shown it off on stream but going through twitch archives is a pain).
Bro going to drop the Warframe Tier list video at Tennocon at this rate.
Makes you wonder, with his usage and completely free invincibility, is Revenant on the nerf chopping block?
I doubt it. Hes insanely good but wukong got hit specifically because he could sit in a corner, lick his own toes while his clone evaporated the room with infinite bramma shots. Rev, while definitely defensively ridiculous, still needs to actively be played. He essentially has a leveled up version of Iron skin or warding halo. Plus his usage rate is nowhere near as high as wukongs was (thank the Chinese for that) and his ability to destroy with weapons is solely due to his defensive abilities, not a innate massive buff to them
You still have to actually do something for revenant to kill things, wukong got nerfed because he pressed 1 and could walk away and the mission would play itself
Possibly, but I think the only thing that needs to be done is reduce the invulnerability window with his Mesmer Skin from 1 second to like...half a second? Quarter at most?
Imo he's not exactly a problem, he isn't automating gameplay or map wiping with his 4. It's just that he's very comfy and very safe as a frame. Overused is not indicative of a frame being overpowered
@@S0M3GUY778this was his problem with introduction of overguard on eximus units just eating his charges away , that’s why he gets the window per charge , o it thing they could reasonably do IF they did would be reduce base charge amount , the delays between charges is fine and needed , plenty other frames can stay effectively invincible
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@Brozime I tried Archon Stretch instead of Primed flow and changed Mobilized to lightning dash works like a charm
How do you trigger the energy regen on Archon Strtch. Diriga?
@@shenaniganursus3681 yes
Bruh! I looked for Revenant build on your channel just last night and now you post an update ❤️ gratitude 🙏🏼
ya know other people post build vids right? also its revenant, hes the most simple frame in the game to make a build on since its just strength and an ever so slight amount of energy sustain
@@PrimedLaundrySauce Do you want a cookie?! Here have this one bro 🍪 Some of us are new in the game! Like you were once! If you don’t have anything constructive to say don’t type your pent up energy on random strangers on the internet! Go out and spend time with your friends or loved ones! You may need a break from vdo games.
@@Ali_ReBORN or maybe dont be lazy and look elsewhere for a source of info? Theres rev builds everywhere brozime isnt the only source.
@@PrimedLaundrySauce who told u i didn’t smartypants?! Lol.. You need to do better with your life! Make an effort to reflect and reform!
@@Ali_ReBORN I have reflected, and I shall reform into being what I still currently am.
The amount of people crying in this comments section is crazy 😭 Why do yall care so much in a pve game about a singular characters survivability? Rev is not afk farming like the wukong glazers from his pre nerf days, he's not room wiping before you can even press a button like a saryn, he's not just sitting there having the game play itself like a Octavia. Let the rev players just enjoy their character without the whining, its honestly a lot more telling that you'd rather undermine the character lol. I've been playing rhino since I first started warframe before making my way to kullervo. I remember how much people used to hate and cry about iron skin being "op" years ago and now we move on to rev. It's legitimately so childish to whine about something you don't find "fun". The people who are just excited to see a rev build get a chain of people responding to them telling them character is boring lol. Really pathetic that'd yall would rather be pessimistic about the fun they're having instead of just letting others enjoy themselves
Thanks Bro! Like nobody has up to date builds on this, worth wile ones atleast.
This dude ain't gonna drop the 2024 tier list until 2025
Dope. Been meaning to run cascade to get some arcane sets to sell
Perfect Build you help me a lot.
I'm sure my build for Rev is sub-par, been looking forward to this.
My beloved little vampire 🤑
this build with 2 purple taos and a glaive is nutty
Sorry if you mentioned it in the video, but is there a specific reason for using dreamer's bond for your aura?
I don't think he mentions it but it's almost certainly not important. Aura mods usually are just for taste unless you're going for a Combat Discipline build etc. Just throw whatever you want in there.
@@jesty1774I usually chose either energy auras apart from dreamer's bond or grower power (along side with exlius mod power drift)
Was testing it out to see if it counteracts some of the few pesky netracells effects and it does a good job of that while being half an energy siphon
Fuck yes I love Revenant!
Same provides arguably the best amount of survivability (with the rival of rhino and his iron skin) and the easiest to understand i personally build a revenant designed for steel path and I've always tested my builds since the murmur came out on the murmur hollow veins (both Warframes and weapons)
Man, i havwnt changed my Revenant buold in AGES...and I still use it for Archin Showdowns. But, now that I'll have the base 'frame back, suppose an update wouldn't hurt...well, wouldn't hurt ME; I'm certain the enemies will be very hurt.
Well now I need to know the amp build
how to level cap with rev: fall asleep at your keyboard
That's just how to level cap in general
WOULDNT IT BE LIT IF REVENANT GETS A REWORK ONE DAY ….keeps Mesmer skin , and gets other abilities reworked or changed to make him much more fun
First though when I saw the title, "pick Rev and load in to the mission, congrats on being able to hit level cap" lol
Your build is the best build out there no doubt bro ty for the video
I haven't tried it yet but would green shards work for his 4, the corrosive application was pretty good the last time I tested it, could be a fun build to make his 4 better at steelpath.
It is fun and actually pretty viable
They do work! Its still a bit too expensive for average build to spin a lot, but it absolutely works, and once it strips all armor from enemy it starts stacking viral.
@@ChosenSewen it’s not quite like baruuk it won’t change , it will keep proccing corrosive but at that point it’s damage catches up and they die fast anyways
@@RossKyle95 huh, you right - its probably was my sentinel that i forgot to unequip. Oh well, at least the full armor strip indeed works.
@@ChosenSewen indeed it’s still fun haha
So basically build for 2 and add nourish to 4 (keep in mind the nerfs when it hits) then use incarnon weapons. Though you don’t need incarnon weapons for end game. You can still use cedo, tenet arca plasmor, bubonico, nataruk, etc to melt things.
been looking forward to this, thx king.
It's strange that on most warframe the go-to ability to replace is the 4th...
4th is the identity of each warframe, its signature move that sets it apart from the other warframes.
They also tend to be severely hindered, or from an era where that wasn't actually the case (Ah yes, a vampire frame... what should his ultimate, frame-defining ability be? I know! DISCO LASERS! *me facepalming*). Exalted weapons? Can't get or use many of the best mods and arcanes. There are definitely frames where that's not the case. For example Titania really only has 2 abilities. Her 1 for status immunity and her 4.
KEK the 4 is not always the identitiy of wfs
revenant his 2
gauss yes
rhino 2 and 3
sevagoth 3
titiania 4
khora 1
atlas 1
i can keep going bro
@@noahedenborg4221sevagoth is def 4
Nope.
Saryn is 1
Mag is 2
Wukong is either 1 or 2
Volt is honestly the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th
Nidus is his passive
Khora is 1
Atlas is 1
Rev is 2
Nezha is 2
Etc
@@UltraHydrationSupreme dude
the reason people get sevagoth is for gloom
Murmur enemies are extremely resistant if not immune to viral (some of them anyway) also if you're going to test weapons and Warframes I would recommend using the murmur hollow veins (and the eximus counter part) not due to their difficulty and frustration on killing them but their extremely resilience to certain procs (I have gone against the murmur on steel path at enemy level 5000 and onwards and even my torid incarnon was struggling with the power of roar on revenant and the roar was at 102%)
Watching this as an MR 7 using Revenant Prime makes my brain melt away...
The more i dive into the subsume mechanics, the other i frankly hate it. Havent played since the end of 2019, so coming back and seeing how just about every frame now has Nourish, or Dispensary or Eclipse on it takes away from their individual identities as frames IMO.
Play Nezha! He wants to keep all 4 of his abilities
To this day i havent gotten helminth yet because it looks so boring just giving every warframe the same 5 abilities
Yea I kinda agree. Can also lead to poor design decisions being completely ignored for a long period of time. If I don’t like the frame’s base kit, there isn’t a helminth ability in the world that could save it for me.
You can still use helminth and keep frame identity. Just can't do the typical slapping of nourish/roar/eclipse on them
Like with gyre, she's great but to push higher sp easily she's missing an armor strip. Slap pillage over her 1 or 2 depending on preference and now she's a walking electric ball of death and mayhem
Ember actually has a really effective combo with sentient wrath essentially perma knockdown every enemy as well as stripping Armour and giving them a damage multiplier to your weapons.
Qorvex with armoir strip or breach surge just let's the chest laser kill even easier and do some dummy damage
If the frame or build has strip you can use a grouping ability from helminth and do some funny gas shenanigans
There's even a pretty good mag build that uses well of life/blood altar of all things and it just makes magnetize even more magnetizing
@NUGGet-3562 especially with his coming augment!
I think you'd be wrong to call Revenant the "best weapons platform", more like the easiest. Rhino with the new buffed Reinforcing stomp builds also has survivability that scales to level cap, and with high range he just needs to percent heal his iron skin with his stomp around 3-4x as often as Revenant needs to recast mesmer. Definitely less convenient but not too major when you consider that stomp is doing a lot of other things like 97.5% slowing overguarded enemies without line of sight checks. Rhino then gets to slot nourish over his 1 AND have undiminished roar for the most ridiculous weapon buffs barring saryn.
Easiest = best in Warframe
@@Brozime it wouldn't be correct to call Volt the best nuker because his nuking is just 1 ability press. Saryn's nuking is more complicated and involves you actively thinking about going here and there to garden efficiently. But it produces a greater overall effect so she's the queen of nuking and widely considered the best nuker.
@@felix_patriot the only reason that's true is because Volt's 4 isn't very effective. If his 4 wiped the map consistently of all enemy types like Saryn it would be better. Effectiveness > Effort but only when you actually use the effectiveness.
@@Brozime You couldn't be more right. And my exact point is that the effectiveness of the new Nourish/Reinforcing Stomp Rhino, in a competent squad, far exceeds that of Revenant, while only being moderately more effort.
In a random squad, for sure Mesmer Shield is providing something invaluable. But good squads will see a lot more value in an additional +150% faction damage on all of their weapons AND abilities, as well as being able to slow almost any enemy in a base 25m radius by 97.5% ignoring overguard and line of sight checks on a tap cast.
Or you can also give them 100% + roar with precision intensify and Mesmer shield on top of that.
Rev is just better, I say this as someone who has rhino prime as most played frame.
Hey Brozime. I've been following your videos for a long time and been wondering, whether it's possible for you to make a high level murmur guide? I have pretty good builds and do read the wiki, know their (elemental) weaknesses but for some reason I'm having such a hard time with killing them. Corrupted or Grineer at the same level pose no threat, but the Murmur just seem like a barrier to me...
I've been on murmur steel path survival with revenant and I can say that most of them are extremely resistant to viral and slash if not immune to it (corrosive is alright but not as effective) toxin, heat and radiation will be your best elements not sure about blast but wouldn't recommend blast (my torid incarnon was struggling with the help of roar at 102% once it got to enemy level 4800 on steel path) beware of the hollow veins on murmur steel path survival are an major threat (along side the one with 3 arms forgotten its name) acolytes are not the biggest threat apart from violence and misery (the reason why the hollow veins are the major threat because of their resistance and how hard it is to actually hit them and they can also drain your energy and hit hard but arena and single)
I completed the MR34 test with revenant, energy siphon and energy nexus. I built a machine out of Lego that slowly presses the 2 key and I passed the test with no user input.
Revenant has been a blast to use since the changes.
Anyone know what amp parts these are 👀
147
@@Francisah Much appreciated friend I built it 😁
Time to give a refresh to good old wisp. My support needs a update!
This build is just amazing. I swap flow for stretch to get back some range to share that nourish buff and together with mesmer shield I make the team pretty much invulnerable, give infinite energy and boost their damage significantly. Only Wisp could perhaps rival these buffs.
Haven't played Warframe in 4 years some how Revenant is themost played Warframe and the furis is a good weapon? Glad I have no idea what's going on or I'd be tempted to get back into it.
The MIGHTY SEER is best used for level cap
note about the torid is that the incarnon CANT benefit from punchthrough, use like. vigi fervor or smth
Release tier list 😠 🔫
wonder if this will still work after nourish nerfs
thanks man. didnt realise u show face now.
Isn't it pretty bad to run so much ability strength on Nourish? It dilutes your status proc pool making the corrosive procs (that you want 14 of to 100% armor strip) take ages to build up.
I know that Nourish got nerfed since this video, but is it still worth helminthing it onto Revenant since the nerf or would I be better using something like Roar instead?
Harrow or zephyr update build?
you dont need primed flow loose it so many other cool mods to play with instead boreals anguish for one thrall pact to incresae primanry damgage to name a few i have firewalker and one shard for parkour velocity and boreals give you hang time and neg 75 gravity and the amalgam mods on weapons to boost movemnet too
How do you have over 4x energy multiplier i have more strenght only get to 3.16
Nourish got nerfed
@@Amaan_OW Thnx bro that explains it
Zombie load out is getting popular
More like whatever is the easiest way to being the most powerful instead of skilled play (even though I play as revenant that's when I'm doing the one weapon only challenge, testing weapons and companions or going to very high enemy levels on steel path), they're out of options or by choice and it's their preferred Warframe
Does madurai contamination wave increase void damage on thrax specter?
This was my build for the gargoyle event
Is build better for running void flood missions than the Valkyr build you did?
I play warframe on/off so i dont keep up with everything, what is he doing with his operator? Like his school and his amp since I wasnt aware there aware there are more gun amps.
its the Sorocco from the New War
@@SaxPantherhe's using the 147 amp with the sirocco skin
One thing I do hate about Revenant is how long his 2 casting speed is. I've been using Natural Talent for so long despite it not being optimal.
Could run amber archon shards
I slapped 1 normal Amber shard on him and that fixed his 2's cast time.
Anything else is overkill.
revenant is amazing, but he it is really weird
he is great because he can be indestructible and he just boost your primary to an ludicrous level, so he is the perfect survival/exterminate frame. high damage and high defense
but he is too comfortable now, i would expect a nerf that changes that
otherwise they have to boost the defensive and offensive options of other frames like excal, mag and vauban
whats a good amp for the operator, im currently using a Klamora Propa Certus
instead of energy nexus why not use preparation/energy siphon.
my spin to win build can get so fucking fast on open world areas
Remember when we thought that mesmer skin was bad
u mean when it wasnt good aka at release
i played old revenant for quite abit, i think mesmer was okay in those times too i still soloed index with him, took him to farm hyldrin and so on.
it was not great, but honestly it was pretty decent@@noahedenborg4221
Is this Revenant Prime build still good?
will still be good but the energy gain wont be as good since nourish has just been nerfed
but is rev good or is he what inaros was 3 years ago?
Yes and no. Rev has actual abilities that do useful things, but he's missing Inaros complete immunity to have toughness removed through nullifying. Imo he's pretty overrated but people like really comfy and easy builds.
TH-camrs are partially why nourish is getting nerfed lol
Its honestly deserved.
I think peculiar bloom woul have been a better choice for the exilus choice, but still a good build
I tried watching back but couldn't find a why for the Dreamer's Bond, is it just cause its new?
Woops totally forgot to mention I’ve been testing it and since his aura slot doesn’t necessarily need to be any particular thing the hp regen + half Esiphon is actually very nice for Netracells to counteract the few things that will lower your health as they can kill you if you aren’t careful while recasting but it’s not a big enough + to consider running like rejuvenation.
Is it even worth crafting things into vosfor? My rates suggest it's better to sell the mods and buy energize instead.
It’s better to sell but selling also takes ages
Can you make a mag prime build using the Fracturing Crush Augment?
I believe he's done that
what amp are you using for void cascades @Brozime
147
He literally titled his Amp "147 sniper glaive"
Well let's see how they gonna nerf nourish and how it will impact the builds.
Probably will only impact frames that needed the help and not the ones who just like it. Likely just widens the gap between good and bad frames if the nerf is bad
I mainly use it for energy generation, the viral buff is nice but the value of it going down isn't much of a nerf anyway
i’m surprised, why not use the mod that makes enthrall give you extra damage output?
Maybe because he’s looking to have that extra icing on the cake when it comes to survivability.
This build is still viable despite the nerf to nourish?
bit late but it should be just fine.
Whenever I just want to shoot stuff and enjoy the strength of my guns alone I play Revenant. He’s great for that. Almost too good.
I also like having a small army of Thralls do the mobile defense missions for me. Surprisingly good at that to.
Honestly, any WarFrame that doesn’t feel like it requires Max Arcane Energize is awesome to me.
I like him too, but I'd like to try something different. Can you recommend any other frames that would be good for pure weapon play?
@@vanhohenheim9083 Rhino, Nezha, Wukong, and Kulvero.
Rhino and Nezha both can buff your weapons.
Wukong can use 2 different weapons at once with his clone.
Kulvero greatly enhances all melee weapons and his abilities make single target weapons actually good at AoE.
@@James-kv3ll In that case, I will try to get Kulervo soon. Thanks.
if i dont have the torid what other weapon can i use?
How is ur nourish damage so high? I have more ability strength than u and im only getting 192% damage increase?
Nourish was nerfed when Dante released, 3 weeks after this video released
Could you do Garuda next
Sweet build thanks
Use xata's whisper and felarx on him
Been witing for vauban
Haven't you heard? He hates Vauban.
i'm glad this is a thing, and the subject of this video is Revenant. Right now Revenant's thralls are immune to warframe abilities. i don't know if this was intended, but the reason why Nyx's mind control target is immune is because it's just that one enemy and it's being completely "mind controlled." When i see a Revenant in the party and i was intending to play Saryn, Volt, Garuda, Dagath, Khora, or most any "ability does damage" warframe i have to abort that mission or leave early because every enemy Revenant enthralls means my "deeps" are not happening. But if i bring a Revenant to do the spinning lasers that works on them for some reason...
i just tested this my thralls take dmg from everyone
I kill the thralls all the time..
Im at mr 9 should i pursue this?
No
Furis prime when?
What amp is being used here?
147 amp
Thank you😢
Was this build made before the nerf to nourish was announced? If it does get mega nerfed would you still put nourish on him?
I mean rev can also just use roar lol. Nourish is more of a feel good ability but he's not particularly energy intensive, especially with flow on him
Nourish here is nice but if they nerf it too much I'll honestly switch to Roar and likely not care at all as Revenant since his energy economy like this is more than perfect but was already very good. Other Warframes will be hurt much more by big nourish nerfs
I use roar on mine with precision intensify. Getting a 100+% roar and team invincibility is pretty nice
Watches video, sees nourish, closes video
Nah, Im gonna stick to roar
He literally says you can run Roar over his 4th instead of Nourish
Wow you got him good, you will stick to the other meta helminth 🤣
Sick burn, bro. He literally says you can use Roar. And Roar is the 2nd most used Helminth. You aint Theory Crafting out here my guy
How is operator doing so much damage?
madurai?
Madurai + arcanes on his operator and amp
Almost perfect except you got rid of dance macab no way am I ever getting rid of that
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I can accept this build is functional, but I don't like it. Nourish makes it take longer to get your green shards to strip and I don't agree with parkour velocity on Revenant if you haven't helminthed over Reave because that's your speed skill and it scales with sprint speed. It takes a bit of practice, but Reaving from one Exolizer to the next is a lot faster.
Also, it's worth pointing out that (while I wouldn't recommend it on Cascade, it's better in Circuit) Danse Macabre can strip with green shards and then change it's damage type to be more effective on health. The number of procs you get per second scales with Ability Range
„Nourish makes it take longer to get your green shards to strip“
This is true; but its hardly relevant with the rate at which a good status weapon inflicts procs. I would be more concerned with getting less Heat procs than with not having 14 Corrosive procs.
„Reaving from one Exolizer to the next is a lot faster“
Reave has lower control than bullet jumping and no verticality. You can call it a taste thing, but most people prefer the control the parkour system gives them over their movement.
„Danse Macabre can strip with green shards and then change its damage type to be more effective against health“
This isn‘t true though. Danse Macabre only deals Corrosive against armored enemies, Magnetic against enemies that have shields, and Gas against Infested. Even if it could change: corrosive deals more damage against Grineer with no armor than gas does. It cannot deal Viral damage. Most of the time dealing Corrosive against only partially armor stripped enemies will result in more damage.
„the number of procs you get per second scales with ability range“
This would be nonsensical even if it were true; luckily its false. Pressing the fire button increases the status chance from 20 to 40 percent.
What range does is it increases the thickness of the beams, potentially giving you some rare moments where it allows a beam to hit when it otherwise would not. I‘ve never heard of the wider beams producing additional damage instances though.
i just tested his range claim with green shards, its false info and does not work and basically works the way you mentioned holding the button increases status not range@@mayhemivory5730
Well being no one runs circuit being most of us have had all the weapons for (checks watch) 8 months. Teach us more, senpai
I do not understand why people run revenant over zephyr at all
Preference, easily
@@calpico9832 there’s more nuance to it than preference, obviously they’re not just picking rev vía the will of the lord
He's really cheap too 😮
I hardly disagree with this build.
I think precision intensify seams like a bad trade to me because you definitly want umbral intensify so you can also get more mesmer stacks instead of just boosting your 4th.
Primed Flow in my eyes is also pretty useless on Revenant because he‘s not the tipical Caster Frame who needs a big Energy pool unless you use a heavy cast subsume which nourish isn‘t.
Revenant is the type of guy that casts Mesmer Skin and his Subsume buff like Roar or Xata‘s once every 60ish seconds depending on the duration of the 4th subsume skill and basically don‘t spam that many abbilitys so why would you need a bigger energy pool? This could much better another QOL Mod like casting speed, more parkour velocity or for eyample vigorous swap for a weapon platform Revenant.
Revenant 🥱
He will 100% be getting nerfed so enjoy it while it lasts folks cuz it's only a matter of when not if.
i am 666 like
revenant is so boring I don't know how anyone can stomach a pure weapons platform frame
Because some people like using weapons instead of abilities.
If weapon platform frames are lame, so are ability only builds and hybrid builds.
As opposed to what, playing Octavia?
But he’s not just a pure weapons platform 😭 build him a different way then tf
What, do you play Octavia instead? Really enjoying buying a new keyboard every month because your crouch button broke?
@@tlkfanrwbyfan8716 did I ever mention octavia? lmao
she's just as braindead as revenant
I’ve been using a similar build for a while now, but opted to drop PFlow for Augur Secrets and Energy Nexus for Energy Conversion for even more strength. Definitely overkill, but really nice.
I hope DE is not only watching this but NERFS the absolutely shit out of this frame. incredibly annoying seeing the most afk players running him
now do it with a frame thats not invicible
Tell me you missed the point of the video without telling me you missed the point of the video
Best weapons platform ... why because he can't die. Stupidest thing I've heard. Saryn is way better mirage chroma and many others can go to level cap and buff guns wayyyyy better and also can use nourish.
I understand brozime has an audience to pander to and there for tells them what they want to hear as opposed to what they need to hear but damn
Tell me you just didnt say Chroma in 2024. . . Please. And Saryn uses her abilities to kill. Please go back to 2014 where this take made any sense
@@barryz8858 yes i said chroma ... when you stop letting ppl tell you what to think and think for your self youd see hes actually really good.
now,
ik ik you dont like thinking youve been fed a lie because then you's have to admit youre not perfect. but ask yourself whats worse continueing to believe a lie or admiting you are not perfect.
saryn uses her ablities to kill and she can use them to buff her weapons making her a weapons platform if you want to go that way with her and she is more than capable of doing so making her a better weapons platform than revenant.
what from revenants kit does ANYTHING to his weapons ? the answer is nothing without helmenth. the stuff you say really shows how out of touch you are with the game. guess thats why you like revenant ... you dont know how to survive w/o his mesmerskin. you have a gaming skill issue.