Ron Miscavige is the father of the Church of Scientology leader David Miscavige and former member for over 40 years. His book Ruthless: Scientology, My Son David Miscavige, and Me is available now.
Never gonna happen. Joe was hostile to Miscavige's father. Note how Joe keeps looking over to Jamie when he challenges or makes sly digs to Ron. The Rogan team was bought
@@Tehgoat Shit dude you really think so?? Wait you might be right the way Joe kept saying "I always thought Scientologists were really positive people" over and over and OVER again. Yeah. Damn. I think you ARE right.
Joe looks like he has a migraine the whole time. If he was already receiving emails from them, they may have sent their reps to his home or office to have a little "come to Jesus" talk with him after his flirty, nice interview with Leah R. Their power structure seems like a combination of the mafia (in their dealings with everyone on the outside), and the Chinese (in setting up their control grid.) However, even the mafia treats their biological families well. The guest was in the Marines, I don't get the impression that he thought Joe was being too hard or disrespectful. Joe had recently interviewed Leah R. So, he came across to me (most of the time) like he was looking for the details that Leah R. didn't provide him. But, when he kept looking at his staff and giggling, that part was rude. Also, trying to get the father to admit he did something wrong that made his son this way. They're in a cult for goodness sake, it was the cult that affected his son. Then, the son took advantage using the tools to gain ultimate power within this group.
This was like watching a wholesome grandpa talk about his life with the grandson that doesn't really give a shit but that every now and then finds something interesting, lol.
I thought I was the only one who felt like Joe was a bit cold toward Ron, at some point it felt like he (Joe) didn’t want him there. It kind of breaks my heart knowing what he had to go through and for Joe to treat the man like he did, especially because Ron is an old man who went through a difficult experience. I wonder what went wrong with the interview?
Sun& MoonSky I don’t understand why a legal Welfare check hasn’t been done to be able to physically see and talk to Shelly Miscavige.. and if she says shes scared, she should be escorted out. If anyone else gets a report of abuse, you get arrested, these people do it and get away with it. WTF is really going on. Expose Expose Expose.... Now!
If you ever have the opportunity to have a conversation with an intelligent, emotive elderly person, DO IT! Best stories, best story tellers. So much context and history and weight to what they have experienced.
I believe Ron is in a tough spot. Scientology calls it "disconnection", Jehovah's Witnesses call it "disfellowshipping". It's a hurtful policy and any group that does this is a cult. Period.
All religions are cults, people laugh at Scientology, but how is Christianity, Islam and the other bullshit not cults? They tell crazy magic fairy tales to sad lonely insecure people who can't handle nothing after death. And they all get donations from their followers... Punishment for not following the rules etc
Mormons call "deserters" apostates. Mormon apostates can't just quit They have to be excommunicated. Often not only formally excommunicated from that institution, but also often put out of communication with family.
Toward the end of the video, it seems that Joe wanted to get control of the interview and chatted more about trivial stuff. Joe seems to be in love with Tom Cruise, and a desire to join Scientology, in spite of Ron Miscavige's revelations. Ron's story was fascinating.
Joe wtf man , re interview this man , hes 82 years old , cut him some slack , he escaped a cult at 76 years old after being in it 4 decades... why were you so hostile
Can anyone answer me why Joe Rogan was being such a rude sarcastic dick during this interview? It's like he was treating the whole interview like a joke. It was not very tasteful
@@norwegianiowan6922 it looks like he just finished doing heavy traning or hot yoga , he said that around this time he was over working out and was rushing interviews and/or not making podcasts with maximum effort , as you can see in his recent podcasts he has changed and are longer and more relaxed , still though i do not appreciate him having no remorse for this guy , literally anyone else would have been a better target for his hostile behavior , Ron didint deserve this
That's funny you said that I was just thinking that he might be a secret scientologists when he kept asking was there anything that could have been done differently
Uncomfortable watching Joe totally disrespect this old gent from start to finish..very difficult to watch. Respect to the old Gent for keeping it together.
I dont know man, i dont really like scientology but Ron wasnt very clear and didnt answered joe directly on a lot of topic. Also he admitted that he punched his wife and his son and i think joe hate him for that
@@Ehgg- if he did that do you know why!? What ever anyone say horrible things about RON... is only to protect and be foolish shame of people who still Defending people belong in the church they are evil if this man get out thank you God is for all of us to wake up
@@theodoret4556 Amen sir Amen and that's putting it nicely anytime your not alout to mourn or cry or have a funeral or go to a funeral or they beat kids and separate them from their parents .Your being awfully nice saying there crazy. They are a CULT.
Joe treated Ron like an old kook, he was just explaining the experience in as much detail as possible, as Joe rolled his eyes and made condescending remarks. Ron seemed completely forthcoming and genuine.
The end of this interview is frustrating. I want to hear the guy speak, he has a lot of insight into how groups like this draw normal people into their schemes. Scientology will die, but other groups/cults will surface. People need to listen to men like Ron and learn from his mistakes.
You're correct, he does. he said in an interview that he doesn't have a relationship with his father who left them (him and his mother), and that he doesn't want one now
what were the instances in this interview that made you think that? everyone in this comment section is talking about how Joe was disrespectful but I don't see it or hear it
Maybe you don’t know, the reason joe was pushing so much about it being Ron’s fault was because Ron was extremely abusive (physically) to his children. Rogan was physically abused as a child . He’s trying to suggest maybe Ron did something wrong that pushed David in this direction (I.e hitting him as a child)
@@aka626 Wrong. The Church of Scientology alleges that Ron was abusive. There is nothing on public record to support such allegations. You are lying. Why? Are you a member of the cult? I ask that question because it is a common practice among supporters of the cult to present propaganda as truth in order to discredit apostates. No such thing as fair gaming? Bullshit. You should be ashamed.
the bitey little ratbag of doom hey man, you just gotta look into it. Haha no but seriously your misinformed, I give 0 fucks about your rather comical opinion, and I’ll prompt you to google it. Like I did. Everything isn’t a conspiracy. Stop huffing cans behind your local grocery store and listening to edgy brah.
How was Joe disrespectful? Because he didn't believe every single word the guy said no matter what without question? If this made you cringe then you clearly missed the earlier interviews. I suggest you watch the first 100 interviews and then redo your opinion.
He was in the marine corps; he can take it. And you can't expect all that much respect when you go on a show shamelessly yacking about the foolish craziness you introduced your son to, which totally fucked him up. If I were Joe I would have been tempted on several occasions to simply ask him what the hell is wrong with him. So yeah...
@@billscannell93 my guy you're an idiot. Ron IS claiming responsibility for introducing his son to scientology... he is saying that scientology is a buncha bs especially when they start talk about aliens and hydrogen bombs and carrying people on spaceships from other planets... at NO POINT is Ron NOT acknowledging any of these things. At the same time, can he not be allowed to grieve for the loss of his son to a toxic cult? Grieve for the loss of relationships to his family and complain about the minor and major abuses the cult committed against him? Just cos somebody joined a cult for a variety of reasons including irrationality, past traumas, incentives the cult gives ya, doesnt mean that you can be a dick to them, after they've been sensible enough to quit a cult.
He wasn't standoffish. Ron talked the whole time but Joe is asking interrogative questions because he can't just take this guys side like he did with Leah. He gave Ron a platform. It was what the podcast was scheduled for..not a conversation...just a platform for Ron.
So many things wrong with this interview: 1 Joe asks a question and then interrupts and asks something not related to the answer. 2. Extremely rude to Ron and practically trying to force him to admit that everything is his fault. 3. Joe pretending that he does not know the meaning of “indoctrination”. Seriously questioning the policies as if Ron is just making this up. Terrible and disrespectful interview.
At the 2:02:14 mark of JR's interview with Leah Remini, he literally talks about how he can understand how someone would be so messed up after being "indoctrinated" (exact word choice) for decades. And that interview happened before this one with Ron. JR was on some other ish this day, apparently.
It's like they got to him after Leah interview/podcast. And i don't mean a letter, more like they threatened him. I watched it now after watching Leah's yesterday and difference is quite disturbing.
I kinda feel bad for Joe. He has no connection with his father who left him when he was 6. Joe talks about his early trust issues coming from that. As far as I don’t like his interview style here, I kinda feel bad for him.
Joe Rogan keeps selling out... First Eddie now this guy.. I have lost respect for Rogan as well. He turned into a shill. Controlled opposition. I'm done with him. He probably got paid off from Scientology.
I think Joe was trying to find out how he raised a kid to get to the top, and why even when he was involved his kid treated him like a punk. Thats what it seems. He figured because his kid was leading he would be livin large but was treated as a punk and he got jealous
This is by far the most disrespectful Joe was ever to his guest. I still cringe it at years after. I think he was trying to avoid Scientology lawsuits.
Wtf Joe! I feel for this old man. He's obviously heart broken about losing his family, and all Joe could do is act like a dick and tell em " don't you feel guilty" smh
MikeHonchoHisself why? Why should he treat this crazy old bastard nicely? He turned his family to a cult then started complaining about that cult when his son became more important then him. Lol this is all so lame
I mean, you make a point, but your name is eatmyass so I cant take it seriously, if you don't feel for this man you're fucked in the head, it's like transporting yourself into the future and seeing your worst nightmare happen , that you regret your entire life and also effected the lives of the people you brought into this world who will no longer be there for you because of some stupid decision you made years and years ago, that is fucked.
What a lovely, lovely man. I was genuinely on the verge of tears listening to him talk about never meeting his grandchildren. I hope his children come to their senses! Joe was definitely a little off here interrupting him about Tom's films, didn't like that. Very interesting interview though, I'd love to hear more.
Joe is being such a douche bag in this interview, especially towards the end. So hard to watch.. I’m glad Ron finally says “Joe your dreaming” at some point.
The ending made me feel really uncomfortable. Hell yeah Ron wrote that book for money. He just spent 42 plus years in a cult that robbed him of everything except his life basically. He had no savings, basically no real job experience in 42 years, social security is trash because he basically didn't pay it. The man went through an extremely traumatizing life where he basically wasted away for 42 years. His son his a full blown psychopath and that's not his fault. What his son does as an adult is no longer his fault as a father unless he raised his son like shit as a child which I don't believe he did. Give him a break. He deserves way more respect than what you showed him Joe. He is 83 years old and he is trying to raise awareness and save people from spending an entire lifetime in this shit show of a cult like he did. Fuck Joe! Come the fuck on bro you are better than this.
Couldn’t agree more. His son makes his own decisions as an adult. Also, He’s an older guy that wrote a book to help others. Joe asking Ron about writing it for money is stupid.
I don't believe Joe was trying to disrespect Ron. I believe Joe didn't take Ron in the same serious light as Ron was trying to portray himself and his view on scientology.Just speculating but I think maybe deep down Joe thinks leaving is much easier than Ron states it is.I have no idea, Just my take.
@Personal Email Does a bear shit in the woods? Joe is usually great. But this time he was a cocky prick - needling a hurting father about his fatherhood - pouring salt in his wounds. Jumping in the middle of his sentences with barbs disguised as questions to needle and to throw him. We are really disappointed with Joe on this one.
They don't have the right to give anyone conditions.... but I had similar thoughts that Joe maybe was a little scared of something..... and it was probably the Scientologists. He definitely wasn't himself.
@@caysitsengoles1838 If people give us facts that are different than we were aware, we should all sway our opinions. I do think Joe sounded a little nervous like maybe he was a bit intimidated.
Scientology needs to get shut down immediately. These "bases" need to be raided and these people freed and this guy david needs to be arrested and put away for the rest of his life. Tom Cruise should also rot in a federal penitentiary.
listening to this I've never wanted to get a baseball bat and absolutely fuck some people up so bad in my whole life. except for that cop that full auto'd that dad in the hotel. These POS's need to get shut the fuck down. how can this be allowed to happen?
@bearsemen And who exactly are you to do the exact fucking thing? If they are brainwashing ppl, falsely imprisoning ppl, illegally extorting their money, and pretty much stealing from the Federal Government by claiming a hobby as a religion, then they should be held responsible for it.
Joe, wow. Why would conduct this interview like an interrogation on an 80 year old man? He isn't responsible for the choices his son has made in his adult life. His intentions 40+ years ago were good when looking for a foundation for his family. The fact that this organization has become so poisoned since then, is not the responsibility of this man. He probably has lived through a lot of shame and guilt in his own mind, you're not required to compound that.
Agreed man since joe never really let him talk like the other person who talked about Scientology. He is a man who can tell us for hours on end about everything he’s experienced and see and what he did in his life. It’s a really awesome dude I really want to hear this man’s story all of it since he’s such a interesting dude. Really wish joe was more respectful to him and I hope he brings him back on and let’s him tell his full life story
Joe, you SUCKED in this one buddy, ima big fan but damn this was hard to watch toward the end. Respect your elders man! Bring Ron back with the knowledge you now have of Scientology and do this properly. Much love.
I know I’m really confused on how great he was on talking about this with Leah Remini, who i love! And she’s making money off outing Scientology and so is he👆 & I think joe didn’t like that?
Negative Ego did he know that before the interview though?? No matter how immoral Ron might be, Joe should be after exposing scientology in this interview, not constantly giggeling like a highschooler and interrupting the narrative of the person sitting on the info. This interview was badly done, technically, no question about it.
I think he took it personally as a parent that Ron didn't save his son from scientology like some fantasy father son movie. Was probably high as fuck and couldn't separate himself from the situation and see it objectively. Plus he has daddy issues. Either way he really fucked this one up.
I know right? What's the go "You did make many off the book. The only reason I'd write a book would be to make money". This man was payed a maximum of $50 a week & Joe's going to try & begrudge him making money off the book he wrote? He has lost his children to this cult. Back off Joe!!!
he said the guy asked for the interview instead of maybe the other way around, and maybe he doesn't really respect the guy, but why is Joe acting like this? The guy took Joe being a dick like a champ though
That 81 year old man, who is playing a victim, lived a debauchrous lifestyle for many years till he fucked up and wasn't getting special treatment anymore. That's why he wants out. That's why he's going on the attack. That is a scientologist way of life! Ron is not a good person. Rogan is a very smart person who can read people easily, he knows Ron is full of shit and playing a victim.
Joe, I started watching Leah Remini's show on A&E about her and others experience's in Scientology. So when I saw you had interviewed Ron Miscavige the FATHER OF David the COB basically BILLIONAIRE of Scientology I was intrigued. Joe, the LEVEL OF DISRESPECT you showed this man was DISGUSTING! Please re interview him, APOLOGIZE ON AIR RIGHT AWAY, THEN this time INTERVIEW HIM with the RESPECT HE IS OWED!
This is absolutely fascinating and heartbreaking. My heart weeps for him. Yeah he got David into Scientology but I don't think he ever saw this coming. I could never imagine having to treat my family this way. Scientology is a cult that MUST be stopped. Taking away their tax exemption is the first step. I want to read his book.
I feel like this was a missed opportunity. He's got the father of the ruler of Scientology and Joe mostly screws around. I don't feel like he acted this way with Leah Remini, maybe because she's hot.
This is defo an odd on. It just seemed like he wasn't interviewing well... something on his mind, the next podcast maybe? I dunno, Joe just seemed to be acting quite Alpha in this one.
Great interview but a little uncomfortable when Joe laughs at the oppressive behaviours or situation. Of course the Scientologist don't belive all the science fiction bull but they are all on a power trip. Where else in this world can you demand what ever you want as the higher power. They need to keep everything contained and rolling to feed their narsasistic tendencies. The workers like Ron are simply needed to keep the cogs turning. Must be the biggest Cult this crazy world has ever seen.
I agree with you 100%! I would listen to a 6 hour podcast of Ron's stories. Even if they weren't all about scientology. I really enjoyed Ron. One hell of a man
One of the most interesting people he’s ever had on and joe just blows it. Joe can’t picture his life or any life outside his own family and friends. His questions are horrible in this one and he comes off so obnoxious.
I hate to say it, but this guy had a genuinely enthralling story to tell, and Joe just seemed to derail the conversation at every turn. It's also the shortest video I've seen on the channel, and Joe looked like he couldn't wait to get out of there. Did I miss something?
Joe KNOWS the Scientology folks are watching. Which is why he is purposely being condescending and playing hardball and doing tons of leading dialogue (like suggesting they could change the no-contact w. family policy and how he could have messed up with his son)...... He wants to show them he will be impartial (maybe even misleading them to think he could be swayed to their side)---its very obvious he is trying to get an interview with them. He would be the best impartial interviewer. If they were to interview with anyone it should be him.
35 years ago in Philly, my friend and I were teens walking downtown and a dude outside the Scientology Center asked us if we wanted to see a movie. We said sure and went in. Suddenly, BAM - the door slammed behind us and the guy locked it and goes, "It's okay, you're just gonna watch the movie, then you can leave." We were so scared we started crying and he let us leave, but not before we gave him our home phone numbers. Well, these motherfuckers started calling our houses at 7 am on Saturday mornings yamnering on about Dianetics. After about two calls, my stepdad, a cop, threatened to come down there and fuck them up. I mean, you don't mess with a Philly cop. They hung up and never called my house again, but kept calling my friend's house for months. These people are such leeches.
Jesus Joe, stop interrupting him!! Damn, everything I think hes going to say something that might blow me away, you ask a question or make a statement that threw him off.
Meh that father still believes some of the bullshit of scientology, offered little or no credible facts and showed no signs of remorse, this man doesn't seem like a good guy in any sense.
Really fell apart at the end there. Looking up "litter", joking about joining so you can get a medal, praising Tom Cruise movies. Come on, Ron is trying to save families.
Evan Strong True even saying ‘Edge of tomorrow was such a good film’ random. It’s a good film but nothing outstanding and not really interesting enough to chat about for 30 secs. Think weed is probably the answer.
Maybe you don’t know, the reason joe was pushing so much about it being Ron’s fault was because Ron was extremely abusive (physically) to his children. Rogan was physically abused as a child . He’s trying to suggest maybe Ron did something wrong that pushed David in this direction (I.e hitting him as a child)
Agreed. No other podcast joe has done has made me feel some type of way. Like yes the whole zenu shit is hilarious and insane but joe was laughing AT him not with him. Someone said “oh ron abused his kids”. Tbh, I’d love to know what the nature of the “abuse” actually is, considering that in 2020 discipline of any nature is being deemed “abuse”. Most importantly, Scientology and David would say just about anything at this point to discredit Ron. It’s a lot harder to discredit someone who is the father of the “leader” and had all sorts of insider info about david/the church.
I'm at the 8th minute of the video and I'm already descouraged of how he is treating this man. He seems to have something interesting to tell. I don't think I'll go further than 8 min., though😕
@@mitsuomits9077 You should go further than 8 minute, even though Joe becomes a piece of shit gradually. You understand a lot of things about scientology.
Probably because he has no fucking reason to respect him. He is a selfish, willfully ignorant order follower that handed his family over to a cult, and he doesn't even want to take responsibility for it.
@@ZerkinzTV Agree. Thousands of possibilities in human history that could be parsed through Miscavige family history. Back in the day-many hundreds of years ago the son would murder the father for the power. Joe has I think a low opinion of Scientology. Maybe he thinks Ron in going into Scientology is at fault. Besides, he doesn't have tits & chutzpah like Leah Remini.
@@ZerkinzTVHis kids choose to stay in "IT" & stalked the guy Whatever it Is seems easy to get in yet ppl need to Break Out of It that's Crazy in my book
Lets be real here, David Miscavige was seduced by the power and money. To say you don't care if a family member lives or dies is a serious thing. David CHOSE power and money over his own family. This makes him a failure as a human being.
Felt that way from the very beginning,and although I appreciate and like Joe, I got very frustrated when he kept pressing Ron if he felt he maybe could have done something different with David to prevent his warped power rise and control. Of course he did, and I could see it probably agonized over it during the time before he left. Ron is a brilliant man, and a realist. I wanted to reach through the airwaves and give this man a granddaughterly hug. Know that Joe was trying to dig deep, but he seemed to be pushing a bit hard, but it wasn't a deal breaker, just brought out a compassion spot in my heart. I cannot believe that this organization is still operating with a tax free status. Will be contacting my Senator on this, and hope everyone else does as well. Also please look at the International Church of Christ which is in no way connected to the United Church of Christ which probably has more members than Scientology. Another cult which supports separation from families. Mothers of members are often told their mothers are simply referred to as earthly mothers as opposed to spiritual mothers which creates a chasm in many familis. Skip McKean is the founder. Google him.
Joe must not be familiar with "power" in a historical sense and what it might be like to rule over the beliefs of people. It's enticing and you definitely don't have to blame parenting, that just removes all responsibility from david and implies he couldn't live his own life cause daddy was mean.
You assume all families are worth prioritizing over power and money--all aren't. That said, you'd think, since Mscavige's father was the one who got him into the cult, DM would've shown some preferential consideration. It's all very dysfunctional, on multiple levels.
This interview could have gone far better had Joe any understanding of what cults are capable of. He's talking to Ron like he was in a nefarious chess club.
Yeah, one of the few times I've seen Joe be a little condescending to his interviewees. Most of the time he does a great job trying to get their perspective. This time he seems to lack some respect for Ron.
@@MB-dg3lr I think he actually physically dislikes this man. Like he can not comprehend how he got his son in this cult, bc he would never do that to his child or children if he has. I think he feels Like this guy is a bad dude
Yeah I am almost on Joe side all the time. Yet he is being condescending to this guy for his belief. However, Joe is just as obsessive as this guy and scientology but with weed.
I feel like Joe rogan would be the #1 guy to understand how a cult brainwashes and manipulates people. Its crazy how disrespectful he is in this interview. Props to Ron on keeping it cool.
I joined Scientology in the early sixties, then left after only one year. This man's explanations of the group is probably the most BALANCED I've ever seen, anywhere. Scientology DOES have many good points, but the cultish, high sales pressure tactics they employ are completely due to LRH's pathology, without question or doubt.
Joe was so disrespectful and condescending at times it was painful to watch. And when he insinuated that he wrote the book only to make a buck, I wanted to punch him. To his credit, Ron pushed through and very passionately made his point about the reasons behind the book.
It was bad. Plus the guy has no other money other than social security like he said multiple times. Who cares if the guy wanted to make some money. like fuck off Joe you make money off OTHER peoples stories.
But he's the leader of a "religion" that brainwashes people into paying them money to gain "rank" within it. If you have a mental issues they lock you up and leave you for dead.
I agree ☝️ he was really rude and definitely condescending at times. You could see Ron being uncomfortable with his behaviour at times, but he handled it with class. Maybe all that Scientologist communication training was effective 🤷♀️😊
It’s called good journalism. Pushing different narratives so the full picture is seen. Maybe you’ve seen to many modern day softball cnn interviews. Joe instead covered all bases not just propping up his guest. That’s why joe is the best
Surprised at Joe's tone in this piece. He's usually very empathic and willing to see things from other peoples' POV, but him hammering on Ron about "do you think you could have done anything different?" over and over... damn, Joe. Half the man's family is still in a cult. Maybe ask the question twice and let it go.
I feel like Joe held a grudge against him from the start at 5:25 when Joe was joking around and Ron was being serious and said let me continue my story
I have major asthma...i went thru terrible things as a kid. Shots..nights spent in steam showers..etc. What really helped me was when i learned to be calm about it. Thats what happened with David. It wasnt magical at all. Haha
Agreed although I’ve never suffered from asthma so im no expert it’s good to hear from someone with a similar experience like what David and his father went through. I feel bad for his dad trying to find something to help his son and getting poisoned by what this cult became. think many things have a psychosomatic factor. This reminds me of Rasputin he got power and influence simply because he became close to royal family because their son had if I remember correctly hemophilia or porphyria which is apparently passed down through a lot of royals because of the intermarriage and Rasputin knew how to calm the boy down and after his supposed ministrations the boy Andre ? I think his name was had periods of recovery and the parents were so grateful because they were so worried about their son and had tried everything else and nothing worked. Sad huh?
When my asthma started i was cool as a cucumber, even during attacks just stoicly enduring. And when they would go away i would lay down and sleep (it would come at night). After the first few attacks i knew it sucked but it didn't kill me so, the scare was mostly off. During the months it increased in frequency but i kept living normally, not even worrying about it much. After about 6 months it got to the point i had trouble for days, not full on attacks but close enough. Then i finally got it checked out seriously, was diagnosed and got meds. My point being; that it does always help to be calm. But that alone cannot prevent the attacks, sadly. On the flipside the meds have prevented it so far (3+ years in). It depends on the person, the cause and type of asthma no doubt.
It felt like he dismissed the entire story he was just told, and then started playing with what-ifs on the life of a man who pretty much lost everything.
I'm not through the whole video but I feel it's more of trying to call him on his Bullshit, joe doesn't do these to placate people, he's trying to get straight answers like a true interviewer should -.- will update if at the end I see it differently
Joe clearly went into this with a bias thinking Ron was a prick to write a book about his son, but Ron clearly wrote a book about how life in a cult tore apart his family. It wasn't a trash novel bashing his son for money and fame. It was a warning. And I don't understand how Joe was never able to comprehend that & warm-up, even slightly, as he maintained an even level of chilled rudeness, icy dismissiveness, and frigid egotistical mockery pretty much throughout an interview with a clearly heartbroken man who had to give-up everything to escape a cult. Can you imagine the bravery and strength in overcoming the cognitive dissonances of 42 years worth of brainwashing and facing losing your family at 75-years-old, with absolutely nothing but the cloths on your back and a few momentos, to be free? What a wasted opportunity, Joe. You had someone worthy of tremendous respect on your show, and you treated him like a petty nuisance...a boring obligation out for revenge... that maybe/might get you a few views from those Scientology haters. You even managed to sprinkle in a few real dickhead responses as if it's so impossible for you to understand what it's like to search for the deeper meaning in life, Mr. DMT, and have that search mocked by the mainstream. Many people go on similar journeys in their own way only to discover they were looking in the wrong place. And it takes a damn brave soul to face that truth. How sad you couldn't see that & respect it for what it was.
"Joe clearly went into this with a bias thinking Ron was a prick to write a book about his son". Okay, first off you are a fucking idiot thinking Joe had bias with Ron from the beginning. Where the fuck that come from?
You are have to understand Joe is comedian that is the first thing. Secondly he open minded enough to look at both side objectively non bias to have a fucking fair interview. Have some perspective kids or I guess you are too young for a “deep” conversation. Bunch of headline readers 👎
This is the 1st time I was put off by Joe as an Interviewer. He was rude, glib & condescending. I usually like him for being the exact opposite--respectful & open-minded--which he was not IMO. There's a reason for his unusual behavior and that's important to know here, but I don't pretend to have any idea what it is....🤔
my theory is Joe's personal relationship with his father. He used to talk about how his father was a hard ass and beat the shit out of his mom. Joe did a rolling stone interview where his sister ended up commenting how Joe made most stuff up about his father and how his mother actually kidnapped him and took him out of state. His father was contacted and ended up saying that he's gone too far and made up lies about me" he will never be my son again". Wouldn't be suprised if Joe was projecting hard on this interview, he said something like the father must really have a strained relationship with his son to write a book and try to earn money this way.
Their lawyers have nothing to do with anything. People can present whatever they want, he's doing it to help present the view of an even playing field. It grants the podcast a way to be "even." It's a decent call.
Joe was an asshole. I paused around 1:10:00 because I couldn't listen to his inconsiderate questions. I'll continue listening though for Ron Miscavige. I hope he reads the comment section and sees how people feel about the way he treated the guest.
Stephanie R. Unfortunately, Joe always says he stops listening or reading when anything negative is said about him so I doubt any of these comments will get through.
and u believe him brian? ... the age of internet and internet comments some dude says he may read a few but will stop if there's bad stuff .... and... you ... believe that up front no questions asked? .... :p (u may not up front cuz he talks more about it but... astill.. kinda.. :v )
Joe has said many times that he takes negative criticism to heart when its warranted and tries to learn from it. However, he did say he doesn't read youtube comments. Hope someone gives him some direct feedback about this one though, felt like it was someone else doing the interview. Felt bad for the old man.
counter proposal: if joe had us believe he bothered read the comments... what then?... (Im rherotic fancy bullshitting that I think it'd turn to hell round here -- more than already does :P )
I'm so disappointed that Joe turned this from an interview into a bashing of this sweet man. Did the cult of Scientology get to you after you interviewed Leah? The difference between the respect in her interview and Ron's interview is crazy. I'm so glad that people like Leah, Mike, and Ron have been coming out and continuing to come out and speak about how horrible Scientology is. Keep speaking out you're making a difference!
I like Joe a lot (usually) but IDK something about the vibe of this interview was off - I don't know if Joe was high or if he was just in a "fuck it" mood, but I felt like he was really kinda disrespectful to Ron (ESPECIALLY pulling an aggressive late night talk show host move and going after Ron repeatedly on if he felt guilty/responsible for David being in power and the "what would you do different" onslaught - Really Joe?! WTF dude, yeah the guy has made some mistakes, what are you wanting him to do cry or jump on the desk in anger? RUDE AS FUCK, broski) Feel like Ron is a sincere and down to earth kinda guy, and a good intentional one at that, respect and condolences to him (good stories BTW too) - Would very much like to see Ron and Leah team up to squash this parasite
Yeah really douchey behavior from Joe, and a bizarre sort of smugness and goofiness that was totally unwarranted given the subject matter and the fact that Ron was being very straightforward and honest. The more I watch Rogan the more I think a lot of the good aspects of his character are just an act, and deep down he's really like this all the time. It's disappointing.
As a dad, I can see why Joe got a little put off by his lackadaisical attitude towards his son's welfare. Instead of treating his son's asthma he had someone tell him it was all in his head, he meh'd when his son wanted to leave school to go work on a boat with a creepy old man. That's some fucked up parenting, and he should feel guilty imo.
Stephen Schaal It wasn't like the man just randomly walked in to the studio. Joe invited him as a guest to tell a story. I really don't believe he got triggered by that. He's more in control of his emotions than that. But Joe can be weird at times. He's super cool 99,9% of the time but it happens that he loses it a bit and often I don't get why. Don't know what happened, maybe he finally tried coke (at times he actually was a bit of a coke asshole), maybe he had a bad day. Maybe he knows something about the man that we don't.
There’s a lot of response here attacking Joe that’s from the Scientology group, we should all focus on the fact that Scientology is a fraud and a science fiction :)
So you're telling me there is an organisation holding people against their will and making them work around the clock for couple bucks and nobody is doing shit about it??This is mind blowing !!WTF !!!
Yea this podcast really bothers me I’ve watched for years but I finally seen this episode and it honestly made me realize I kinda put joe on a pedestal and thought he couldn’t do wrong when it came to his podcast but this interview was extremely hard to watch due to his blatant disrespect. Maybe he was playing devil’s advocate, but there’s a line. Joe crossed it with this man and owes him another interview and an apology.
Really? This was the one? There have been so many others where he just goes ape shit. He is a *short* tempered man who thinks he is a giant intellectually.
Why would David's psychosis be Ron's fault? David is a sociopath and that isn't his father's fault, so why should Ron feel any guilt for how his son turned out?
Marty.R Woodcock becasue Joe was abused by his dad and he blames his dad for alot of shit that happened in his life, so he thinks that Ron should feel guilty for the way his son turned out
LOL. In a timespan of 30+ years, Ronnie boy cannot think of things he would have done differently. Dad of the year, without a doubt. My guess is Ron and David have more in common then Ron likes, the apple doesn't fall far from the sociopath's tree. Like Joe said in another podcast: this wasn't a conversation, this was an interview. To me: it felt like a book report, Ron had no part in any of this, evil was all around him but Ron is just there in the wrong time at the wrong place, every time. Sure guy.
@@fragosa @i f Luckily for him he has no need to be professional. He is a podcaster not a president. His guest had a slight aggression from the start with "LISTEN! etc." This was most likely not intentional but it comes with age and ignorance. Joe reads people well and likes to stay in control.
re-interview him joe........ click like for a re-interview...
agreed!!!
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Never gonna happen. Joe was hostile to Miscavige's father. Note how Joe keeps looking over to Jamie when he challenges or makes sly digs to Ron. The Rogan team was bought
@@christinalopez4851 whos that? Can i watch it? Wait, are they gonna be mean to him too?
@@Tehgoat Shit dude you really think so?? Wait you might be right the way Joe kept saying "I always thought Scientologists were really positive people" over and over and OVER again. Yeah. Damn. I think you ARE right.
This is one of the first times Ive ever been mad at joe, shut up and let the men talk
Same I live his podcast but he was beyond rude, annoying and unprofessional
Joe looks like he has a migraine the whole time. If he was already receiving emails from them, they may have sent their reps to his home or office to have a little "come to Jesus" talk with him after his flirty, nice interview with Leah R. Their power structure seems like a combination of the mafia (in their dealings with everyone on the outside), and the Chinese (in setting up their control grid.) However, even the mafia treats their biological families well. The guest was in the Marines, I don't get the impression that he thought Joe was being too hard or disrespectful. Joe had recently interviewed Leah R. So, he came across to me (most of the time) like he was looking for the details that Leah R. didn't provide him. But, when he kept looking at his staff and giggling, that part was rude. Also, trying to get the father to admit he did something wrong that made his son this way. They're in a cult for goodness sake, it was the cult that affected his son. Then, the son took advantage using the tools to gain ultimate power within this group.
Joe, whats up with you on this interview? You seem rude and disrespectful.
Its the amphetamines
Joe is a amater radio host,only possible for idiots in USA like that Sam&Norton
This was like watching a wholesome grandpa talk about his life with the grandson that doesn't really give a shit but that every now and then finds something interesting, lol.
I thought I was the only one who felt like Joe was a bit cold toward Ron, at some point it felt like he (Joe) didn’t want him there. It kind of breaks my heart knowing what he had to go through and for Joe to treat the man like he did, especially because Ron is an old man who went through a difficult experience.
I wonder what went wrong with the interview?
Didn't realize Ron was 81. He looks great and sounds very sharp.
Not exposed to sunlight help his skin stay good. Genetics too, David miscabage looks great albeit being a midget 5"3 tall.
Dat there scientology moneys
That is how things go when you get the parasites that came out of the volcanoes off of you.
drugs stop growth
That’s what i thought he doesnt talk like an 80 old man
I wish Joe would’ve asked Ron more about his daughter-in-law’s disappearance.
Sun& MoonSky I don’t understand why a legal Welfare check hasn’t been done to be able to physically see and talk to Shelly Miscavige.. and if she says shes scared, she should be escorted out. If anyone else gets a report of abuse, you get arrested, these people do it and get away with it. WTF is really going on. Expose Expose Expose.... Now!
Sick Fixx waych the documentary they did on her, its online, i mean i dont kno for sure but it sounds convincing
@Sick Fixx you're saying that cause youre a scientologist
@Alleszins; zinloos. Nu nog dood. Your screen name, its scientologist talk, right? God Bless you, Christ will be waiting for you to come to him
She has a lawyer whom represents all her public relations (yet been years since she has been seen) hummm
If you ever have the opportunity to have a conversation with an intelligent, emotive elderly person, DO IT! Best stories, best story tellers. So much context and history and weight to what they have experienced.
81 years old?! He seems to be in his 50’s!!!
Scientology may be beneficial in some way eh? Hahaha
Are you blind? 😂
Fuck Scientology!
Greg H fuck all religions they're as silly and childish as Scientology
B BC Amen to that! lol
Greg H Bernie Madoff ain't got shmadoff on these folks
fuck religion
We are now watching you
Don't think Joe even slightly realizes how difficult it is to leave a cult like this even after being convinced one should leave
I believe Ron is in a tough spot. Scientology calls it "disconnection", Jehovah's Witnesses call it "disfellowshipping". It's a hurtful policy and any group that does this is a cult. Period.
The definition of a cult is a group of people who have extreme admiration for a higher power, every theistic religion is a cult.
Don’t forget “excommunication” from Catholics, they’re all cults 🤷🏻♀️
It proves it’s a cult, for me. A religious person shows forgiveness!!
All religions are cults, people laugh at Scientology, but how is Christianity, Islam and the other bullshit not cults? They tell crazy magic fairy tales to sad lonely insecure people who can't handle nothing after death. And they all get donations from their followers... Punishment for not following the rules etc
Mormons call "deserters" apostates. Mormon apostates can't just quit They have to be excommunicated. Often not only formally excommunicated from that institution, but also often put out of communication with family.
Toward the end of the video, it seems that Joe wanted to get control of the interview and chatted more about trivial stuff. Joe seems to be in love with Tom Cruise, and a desire to join Scientology, in spite of Ron Miscavige's revelations. Ron's story was fascinating.
Join the crew joe!
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I'm like 95% positive that Rogan really thinks it is a cult and just wants to fuck around.
Joe wtf man , re interview this man , hes 82 years old , cut him some slack , he escaped a cult at 76 years old after being in it 4 decades... why were you so hostile
Totally agree with this comment ☝️ re interview with a better attitude
mra2zee nice to see commenters being nice to each other for once
Can anyone answer me why Joe Rogan was being such a rude sarcastic dick during this interview? It's like he was treating the whole interview like a joke. It was not very tasteful
I agree! Shit..they were fking slaves man
@@norwegianiowan6922 it looks like he just finished doing heavy traning or hot yoga , he said that around this time he was over working out and was rushing interviews and/or not making podcasts with maximum effort , as you can see in his recent podcasts he has changed and are longer and more relaxed , still though i do not appreciate him having no remorse for this guy , literally anyone else would have been a better target for his hostile behavior , Ron didint deserve this
Damn Joe, did the Scientologists at least release your family after this interrogation.
I think Joe released your mother first.
@@frannycatp6610 not before I released on her face
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That's funny you said that I was just thinking that he might be a secret scientologists when he kept asking was there anything that could have been done differently
Uncomfortable watching Joe totally disrespect this old gent from start to finish..very difficult to watch.
Respect to the old Gent for keeping it together.
Scientologists run concentration camps. (a concentration camps denotation is a camp where groups of people are concentrated.
ive watched half the video at this point, im just not seeing what youre refering to.
I dont know man, i dont really like scientology but Ron wasnt very clear and didnt answered joe directly on a lot of topic. Also he admitted that he punched his wife and his son and i think joe hate him for that
I hope Joe apologized to Ron at some point because I'm really disappointed in this interview.
He got mad because Ron admitted to beating his wife and kids and then he said he had a great relationship with his son
those people are insane
@@Ehgg- if he did that do you know why!?
What ever anyone say horrible things about RON... is only to protect and be foolish shame of people who still Defending people belong in the church they are evil if this man get out thank you God is for all of us to wake up
lucy vasquez wtf u trying to say
@@theodoret4556 Amen sir Amen and that's putting it nicely anytime your not alout to mourn or cry or have a funeral or go to a funeral or they beat kids and separate them from their parents .Your being awfully nice saying there crazy. They are a CULT.
Joe treated Ron like an old kook, he was just explaining the experience in as much detail as possible, as Joe rolled his eyes and made condescending remarks. Ron seemed completely forthcoming and genuine.
The end of this interview is frustrating. I want to hear the guy speak, he has a lot of insight into how groups like this draw normal people into their schemes. Scientology will die, but other groups/cults will surface. People need to listen to men like Ron and learn from his mistakes.
This was heartbreaking. I truly feel for him. No matter how you slice it, he lost his son.
Catherine Calloway he lost not only his son, but also his daughter, his grandchildren, and his great-grandchildren.
I can only assume Joe has some issues with his own father.
You're correct, he does. he said in an interview that he doesn't have a relationship with his father who left them (him and his mother), and that he doesn't want one now
A deadbeat father is no father. Poor Joe (or anyone) having to take on life w/out a proper father figure.
@@yxvm that's true. but he says he had a great stepfather
what were the instances in this interview that made you think that? everyone in this comment section is talking about how Joe was disrespectful but I don't see it or hear it
Joe... Gotta have him back. The masses are asking for it for your benefit.. You gotta make this right.
Agreed. I am a big fan of many other Rogan interviews, but seeing the way that he treated this guy was unsettling.
Maybe you don’t know, the reason joe was pushing so much about it being Ron’s fault was because Ron was extremely abusive (physically) to his children. Rogan was physically abused as a child . He’s trying to suggest maybe Ron did something wrong that pushed David in this direction (I.e hitting him as a child)
@@aka626 Wrong. The Church of Scientology alleges that Ron was abusive. There is nothing on public record to support such allegations. You are lying. Why? Are you a member of the cult? I ask that question because it is a common practice among supporters of the cult to present propaganda as truth in order to discredit apostates. No such thing as fair gaming? Bullshit. You should be ashamed.
the bitey little ratbag of doom hey man, you just gotta look into it. Haha no but seriously your misinformed, I give 0 fucks about your rather comical opinion, and I’ll prompt you to google it. Like I did. Everything isn’t a conspiracy. Stop huffing cans behind your local grocery store and listening to edgy brah.
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So.... Copy/paste..?
A bot programmed to spread the word of an expired, mediocre science fiction writer?
one of these 1.6 million views is def david miscavige
L prophit I like the way you think 👍🏻
L prophit yeah I agree one of them has to be David Miscavige. He probably watches it So he can spy on his father.
He has absolutely watched this entire thing
Eh I'm on the fucking TH-cam watching Rogan! Nice Italian kid.
@Hmong Smithy Tommy has definitely not watched he's insulated.
Re-interview while Ron is still alive! Joe, you were disrespectful, it was cringeworthy. Were you too stoned? Please apologize and redo!
It seemed like he didn’t really believe his stories.
How was Joe disrespectful? Because he didn't believe every single word the guy said no matter what without question? If this made you cringe then you clearly missed the earlier interviews. I suggest you watch the first 100 interviews and then redo your opinion.
Agreed. Didn't enjoy the moments of Joe's hardness/ callousness with the good man. Soften the fk up, Joe.
He was in the marine corps; he can take it. And you can't expect all that much respect when you go on a show shamelessly yacking about the foolish craziness you introduced your son to, which totally fucked him up. If I were Joe I would have been tempted on several occasions to simply ask him what the hell is wrong with him. So yeah...
@@billscannell93 my guy you're an idiot. Ron IS claiming responsibility for introducing his son to scientology... he is saying that scientology is a buncha bs especially when they start talk about aliens and hydrogen bombs and carrying people on spaceships from other planets... at NO POINT is Ron NOT acknowledging any of these things. At the same time, can he not be allowed to grieve for the loss of his son to a toxic cult? Grieve for the loss of relationships to his family and complain about the minor and major abuses the cult committed against him? Just cos somebody joined a cult for a variety of reasons including irrationality, past traumas, incentives the cult gives ya, doesnt mean that you can be a dick to them, after they've been sensible enough to quit a cult.
Why’s joe so stand off-ish with this guy
he openly beat his wife for 40 years. he isn’t a good man
He wasn't standoffish. Ron talked the whole time but Joe is asking interrogative questions because he can't just take this guys side like he did with Leah. He gave Ron a platform. It was what the podcast was scheduled for..not a conversation...just a platform for Ron.
So many things wrong with this interview:
1 Joe asks a question and then interrupts and asks something not related to the answer.
2. Extremely rude to Ron and practically trying to force him to admit that everything is his fault.
3. Joe pretending that he does not know the meaning of “indoctrination”. Seriously questioning the policies as if Ron is just making this up.
Terrible and disrespectful interview.
Patricia Z I totally agree, Patricia. I think Joe owes Mr Miscavige an apology for being so belligerent.
At the 2:02:14 mark of JR's interview with Leah Remini, he literally talks about how he can understand how someone would be so messed up after being "indoctrinated" (exact word choice) for decades. And that interview happened before this one with Ron. JR was on some other ish this day, apparently.
Then watch something else you fucking moron
@@Daswassuphomie snowflake
Wtf is an indoctrination. Sounds like a load of bullshit.
This guys life is completely destroyed by Scientology.
Joe: “You just wrote that book for money.”
I know its ridiculous and he lost his family also. So sad.
self induced right lol
@becibooable1 so what
@becibooable1 a little tyrannical are we? Sounds like this religion is for you hahaha
@@daveyjones9506 BAHAHAHA
Is joe a closet scientologist? Hes acting completely different in this interview its disconcerting
He just didn't smoke beforehand
It's like they got to him after Leah interview/podcast. And i don't mean a letter, more like they threatened him. I watched it now after watching Leah's yesterday and difference is quite disturbing.
@@teddywebbles No, he just didn't inhale...ha ha
evija87 hes almost taking him jokingly
OH. for gods sake NO
You were so rude to this guy that spent most his life in a cult and left with nothing, WHY?
Cuz Joe Rogan is a Dickhead and has always been a dickhead!!!!
I kinda feel bad for Joe. He has no connection with his father who left him when he was 6. Joe talks about his early trust issues coming from that. As far as I don’t like his interview style here, I kinda feel bad for him.
Scientology is basically a Gofundme for David Miscavige
ShaolinGamer WeFundDavid-ology
That man is an evil genius...
It's a huge tax free real estate grab
Yea pretty much..... HE IS "EVIL LORD XENU" of Earth
I firmly believe they could build the second version of the pyramids. With all those slaves.
@Xavier Smith A billion years actually
"I'm not gonna fuckin' live like that!! Way ta go Ron. This guy was fuckin' awesome.
CHAISE HOMBRE true! hahah he sounds so Italian 😂
I think Joe has been warned off my the Scientology church. Joe seems frightened to upset the church.
scientology has millions in untaxed money, and they love lawyers
Joe Rogan keeps selling out... First Eddie now this guy.. I have lost respect for Rogan as well. He turned into a shill. Controlled opposition. I'm done with him. He probably got paid off from Scientology.
+John Miller strange too...why isn't Ron's name in the thumbnail like all the rest - there's nothing there ?....another conspiracy what !
Sounds like Joe is a secret Scientologist. Ron did a good job keeping his cool.
He really did...
I think Joe was trying to find out how he raised a kid to get to the top, and why even when he was involved his kid treated him like a punk. Thats what it seems. He figured because his kid was leading he would be livin large but was treated as a punk and he got jealous
Im honest to God so tired of people who disrespect our elderly ?
Imagine real journalism techniques mistaken for bias...
Joe is a jew, thats all you need to know guys.
This is by far the most disrespectful Joe was ever to his guest. I still cringe it at years after.
I think he was trying to avoid Scientology lawsuits.
Wtf Joe! I feel for this old man. He's obviously heart broken about losing his family, and all Joe could do is act like a dick and tell em " don't you feel guilty" smh
MikeHonchoHisself why? Why should he treat this crazy old bastard nicely? He turned his family to a cult then started complaining about that cult when his son became more important then him. Lol this is all so lame
I mean, you make a point, but your name is eatmyass so I cant take it seriously, if you don't feel for this man you're fucked in the head, it's like transporting yourself into the future and seeing your worst nightmare happen , that you regret your entire life and also effected the lives of the people you brought into this world who will no longer be there for you because of some stupid decision you made years and years ago, that is fucked.
Fair question. David is destroying lives. Gotta wonder if the father feels like he fucked up somehow for his son to become that.
What a lovely, lovely man. I was genuinely on the verge of tears listening to him talk about never meeting his grandchildren. I hope his children come to their senses! Joe was definitely a little off here interrupting him about Tom's films, didn't like that. Very interesting interview though, I'd love to hear more.
Joe is being such a douche bag in this interview, especially towards the end. So hard to watch.. I’m glad Ron finally says “Joe your dreaming” at some point.
Wow lol joe is very disrespectful with his jokes considering how sensitive of a subject this is for ron
Fuck that lmao, he’s a comedian
Yeah fuck you bro this guy is a straight donkey
Joe Rogan is a dick.....
Yep, very disrespectful to Ron. Too worried about getting a joke in. Grow the fuck up.
Disrespectful about a made up religion?
The ending made me feel really uncomfortable. Hell yeah Ron wrote that book for money. He just spent 42 plus years in a cult that robbed him of everything except his life basically. He had no savings, basically no real job experience in 42 years, social security is trash because he basically didn't pay it. The man went through an extremely traumatizing life where he basically wasted away for 42 years. His son his a full blown psychopath and that's not his fault. What his son does as an adult is no longer his fault as a father unless he raised his son like shit as a child which I don't believe he did. Give him a break. He deserves way more respect than what you showed him Joe. He is 83 years old and he is trying to raise awareness and save people from spending an entire lifetime in this shit show of a cult like he did. Fuck Joe! Come the fuck on bro you are better than this.
How was Joe being disrespectful?
Couldn’t agree more. His son makes his own decisions as an adult. Also, He’s an older guy that wrote a book to help others. Joe asking Ron about writing it for money is stupid.
Joe was just not taking anything seriously. He was rather childish. Bad interviewer on this one.
Your face is disrespectful
I don't believe Joe was trying to disrespect Ron. I believe Joe didn't take Ron in the same serious light as Ron was trying to portray himself and his view on scientology.Just speculating but I think maybe deep down Joe thinks leaving is much easier than Ron states it is.I have no idea, Just my take.
Have Ron back with Leah Remini and see how that goes. Much more respectful I would expect
L?,
I thought I was crazy! He's being so rude
@@ongrossita Its because of the pressure from the Church, and Joe's history with his own dad
@Personal Email Does a bear shit in the woods? Joe is usually great. But this time he was a cocky prick - needling a hurting father about his fatherhood - pouring salt in his wounds. Jumping in the middle of his sentences with barbs disguised as questions to needle and to throw him. We are really disappointed with Joe on this one.
@@rgcwow #seaorg #lronhubbard #scientology #octodragon #saveyourpennies
I have a feeling Scientology contacted Joe before Ron came on and gave him some conditions on how to direct certain points if they came up.
They don't have the right to give anyone conditions.... but I had similar thoughts that Joe maybe was a little scared of something..... and it was probably the Scientologists. He definitely wasn't himself.
After this interview, JR must go for a CORRECTIVE PROGRAME no sought.
Do you really think Joe Rogan would let anyone sway his opinion....come on
@@caysitsengoles1838 If people give us facts that are different than we were aware, we should all sway our opinions. I do think Joe sounded a little nervous like maybe he was a bit intimidated.
You were very disrespectful Joe, bad move , disgusted
Scientology needs to get shut down immediately. These "bases" need to be raided and these people freed and this guy david needs to be arrested and put away for the rest of his life. Tom Cruise should also rot in a federal penitentiary.
these people need to get raided and locked the fuck up.
listening to this I've never wanted to get a baseball bat and absolutely fuck some people up so bad in my whole life. except for that cop that full auto'd that dad in the hotel. These POS's need to get shut the fuck down. how can this be allowed to happen?
Agreed, how have they not been investigated for kidnapping and wrongful detainment?
I lived by one in hemet for years
@bearsemen And who exactly are you to do the exact fucking thing? If they are brainwashing ppl, falsely imprisoning ppl, illegally extorting their money, and pretty much stealing from the Federal Government by claiming a hobby as a religion, then they should be held responsible for it.
Honestly felt bad at how he was treated as guest of the show. Joe would never treat another guest like this. Very dick like
Joe, wow. Why would conduct this interview like an interrogation on an 80 year old man? He isn't responsible for the choices his son has made in his adult life. His intentions 40+ years ago were good when looking for a foundation for his family. The fact that this organization has become so poisoned since then, is not the responsibility of this man. He probably has lived through a lot of shame and guilt in his own mind, you're not required to compound that.
Agreed man since joe never really let him talk like the other person who talked about Scientology. He is a man who can tell us for hours on end about everything he’s experienced and see and what he did in his life. It’s a really awesome dude I really want to hear this man’s story all of it since he’s such a interesting dude. Really wish joe was more respectful to him and I hope he brings him back on and let’s him tell his full life story
So many times Joe forgets this man has had his children hidden away and trapped 😣😓
Blink twice if Scientology's got you, Joe.
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Lmao dead
Joe "desperate to find good in scientology" Rogan
Keep drinking the scientology kool aid you prick
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@@tjm9565 me? I think you misunderstand
W8 M4N I think TJM is drinking too much kool aid.
@@tjm9565 lol dumbass
Joe, you SUCKED in this one buddy, ima big fan but damn this was hard to watch toward the end. Respect your elders man! Bring Ron back with the knowledge you now have of Scientology and do this properly. Much love.
I know I’m really confused on how great he was on talking about this with Leah Remini, who i love! And she’s making money off outing Scientology and so is he👆 & I think joe didn’t like that?
Get Tim Cruise on here .
It’s because Ron beat his wife and kids and joe got pissed when he said he had a great relationship with his kid
Negative Ego did he know that before the interview though??
No matter how immoral Ron might be, Joe should be after exposing scientology in this interview, not constantly giggeling like a highschooler and interrupting the narrative of the person sitting on the info. This interview was badly done, technically, no question about it.
He’s comes off as such a jackass sometimes. Definitely didn’t have this attitude with Leah Remini.
I think he took it personally as a parent that Ron didn't save his son from scientology like some fantasy father son movie. Was probably high as fuck and couldn't separate himself from the situation and see it objectively. Plus he has daddy issues. Either way he really fucked this one up.
Leah ran over his dumb ass in her interview. She kept him in his place.
Peridactite this dude wasn’t trying to fuck him the whole interview haha
I know right? What's the go "You did make many off the book. The only reason I'd write a book would be to make money". This man was payed a maximum of $50 a week & Joe's going to try & begrudge him making money off the book he wrote? He has lost his children to this cult. Back off Joe!!!
Emily Rose Ayres it’s because Ron admitted for beating his wife and kids then he said he had a great relationship with his son
he said the guy asked for the interview instead of maybe the other way around, and maybe he doesn't really respect the guy, but why is Joe acting like this? The guy took Joe being a dick like a champ though
a REAL man mocks 81 yr-olds when they're being sincere about a traumatic experience 👏👍
That 81 year old man, who is playing a victim, lived a debauchrous lifestyle for many years till he fucked up and wasn't getting special treatment anymore. That's why he wants out. That's why he's going on the attack. That is a scientologist way of life! Ron is not a good person. Rogan is a very smart person who can read people easily, he knows Ron is full of shit and playing a victim.
Russell Paloor Maybe
@@russellpaloor8225 proof.....
Wow Scientology is like a North Korea experiment within the USA
Exactly what I was thinking!☮️
Joe, I started watching Leah Remini's show on A&E about her and others experience's in Scientology. So when I saw you had interviewed Ron Miscavige the FATHER OF David the COB basically BILLIONAIRE of Scientology I was intrigued.
Joe, the LEVEL OF DISRESPECT you showed this man was DISGUSTING! Please re interview him, APOLOGIZE ON AIR RIGHT AWAY, THEN this time INTERVIEW HIM with the RESPECT HE IS OWED!
Absolutley!Come on Joe what's ah matter with you!?This Guy is the Ultimate.U were a little disrespectful;do better....
You guys are talking to him like he's actually gonna read this. 😆😆
@@dustin600 Maybye atleast his hair stylist will😂😂🤗
Wtf is with everyone saying this, if you guys pressure someone out of talking a certain way, then he didn't have freedom of speech.
This is absolutely fascinating and heartbreaking. My heart weeps for him. Yeah he got David into Scientology but I don't think he ever saw this coming. I could never imagine having to treat my family this way. Scientology is a cult that MUST be stopped. Taking away their tax exemption is the first step. I want to read his book.
I feel like this was a missed opportunity. He's got the father of the ruler of Scientology and Joe mostly screws around. I don't feel like he acted this way with Leah Remini, maybe because she's hot.
This is defo an odd on. It just seemed like he wasn't interviewing well... something on his mind, the next podcast maybe? I dunno, Joe just seemed to be acting quite Alpha in this one.
Casey Doe he was kinda dickish with leah, she was trying to hit on him and he shut her down several times.
Casey Doe she's hideous 😂 wtf
she wasn't hitting on him, you nerd!😂😂😂
aidan whitehead she's hideous ?? uhmm ok virgin.
Joe was insensitive in this interview.
For real felt the same really shit
he interrupted way way too much...
Lol what? It’s a normal conversation. 😭😂
@@leestrutzel7046 he kept fucking interrupting him and shit especially at the end.
Great interview but a little uncomfortable when Joe laughs at the oppressive behaviours or situation. Of course the Scientologist don't belive all the science fiction bull but they are all on a power trip. Where else in this world can you demand what ever you want as the higher power. They need to keep everything contained and rolling to feed their narsasistic tendencies. The workers like Ron are simply needed to keep the cogs turning. Must be the biggest Cult this crazy world has ever seen.
This guy looks amazing for 81. What Amazes me that scientologists can't retire. Maybe so that work kept him healthy.
Joe was very impatient on this one. I'd really like to hear Ron's stories.
I agree with you 100%! I would listen to a 6 hour podcast of Ron's stories. Even if they weren't all about scientology. I really enjoyed Ron. One hell of a man
One of the most interesting people he’s ever had on and joe just blows it. Joe can’t picture his life or any life outside his own family and friends. His questions are horrible in this one and he comes off so obnoxious.
I agree - The worst interview I’ve seen him do
I agree, I think Joe probably has ingested a few of those pot laced gummy bears.
Joe did not like the guy. I can understand
I hate to say it, but this guy had a genuinely enthralling story to tell, and Joe just seemed to derail the conversation at every turn. It's also the shortest video I've seen on the channel, and Joe looked like he couldn't wait to get out of there. Did I miss something?
lawsuit ?
I think Joe was hoping to nail him in to take a little responsibility for how it turned out
Joe KNOWS the Scientology folks are watching. Which is why he is purposely being condescending and playing hardball and doing tons of leading dialogue (like suggesting they could change the no-contact w. family policy and how he could have messed up with his son)...... He wants to show them he will be impartial (maybe even misleading them to think he could be swayed to their side)---its very obvious he is trying to get an interview with them. He would be the best impartial interviewer. If they were to interview with anyone it should be him.
🤦♀️I know to many things I "shouldn't" ... 🤣🤣🤣
Joe mocked him
Ron Miscavige’s life story would make for a very interesting documentary and even a movie
35 years ago in Philly, my friend and I were teens walking downtown and a dude outside the Scientology Center asked us if we wanted to see a movie. We said sure and went in. Suddenly, BAM - the door slammed behind us and the guy locked it and goes, "It's okay, you're just gonna watch the movie, then you can leave." We were so scared we started crying and he let us leave, but not before we gave him our home phone numbers. Well, these motherfuckers started calling our houses at 7 am on Saturday mornings yamnering on about Dianetics. After about two calls, my stepdad, a cop, threatened to come down there and fuck them up. I mean, you don't mess with a Philly cop. They hung up and never called my house again, but kept calling my friend's house for months. These people are such leeches.
Jesus Joe, stop interrupting him!! Damn, everything I think hes going to say something that might blow me away, you ask a question or make a statement that threw him off.
Kinda feels on purpose..joes a closet scientologist
In his defense, this guy is not the best at communicating. I’m being kind by phrasing it that way. I can see why joe reacted this way.
@@KayP33 it helps to learn to listen and have the patience for the setup
Meh that father still believes some of the bullshit of scientology, offered little or no credible facts and showed no signs of remorse, this man doesn't seem like a good guy in any sense.
Read the book. Its joes interview
"Get the fuck out of here old man, I have to argue about the Earth being flat with Edgy Brah for 3 hours"
jacobcook7 lolllll
He left Scientology at 76?? How old is he? He looks like he is in his early 60's and is sharp and totally mentally together.
He’s 81 in this vid
This guy is perfect for Joe, he's a tough as nails, no nonsense guy, and he goes toe-to-toe with Joe.
Really fell apart at the end there. Looking up "litter", joking about joining so you can get a medal, praising Tom Cruise movies. Come on, Ron is trying to save families.
Evan Strong True even saying ‘Edge of tomorrow was such a good film’ random. It’s a good film but nothing outstanding and not really interesting enough to chat about for 30 secs. Think weed is probably the answer.
He destroyed what could have been a really great podcast.
Wish he was this critical of nick yarris
Popeye 92 agreed. So full of shit
@@popeye9273
Or Brenden Shaub
I've watched alot of Rogan's interviews of various people. This is one of his most douchiest. My heart goes out to Ron
Maybe you don’t know, the reason joe was pushing so much about it being Ron’s fault was because Ron was extremely abusive (physically) to his children. Rogan was physically abused as a child . He’s trying to suggest maybe Ron did something wrong that pushed David in this direction (I.e hitting him as a child)
FESERFACE hey man you just gotta look into it ok?
I agree. I almost turned it off.
Agreed. No other podcast joe has done has made me feel some type of way. Like yes the whole zenu shit is hilarious and insane but joe was laughing AT him not with him. Someone said “oh ron abused his kids”. Tbh, I’d love to know what the nature of the “abuse” actually is, considering that in 2020 discipline of any nature is being deemed “abuse”. Most importantly, Scientology and David would say just about anything at this point to discredit Ron. It’s a lot harder to discredit someone who is the father of the “leader” and had all sorts of insider info about david/the church.
@@mermaidsupreme3873 I did some research and i really don't know if it's true considering that every bit of information is coming from two sites (www.ronmiscavigebook.com and www.leahreminiaftermath.com) wich are owned by scientology (© 2020 Church of Scientology International. on the footer) and every news article i checked refers to the first of the two sites. Thought i have to say on those sites they have some evidence that seem pretty solid but all in all to me it seems just an elaborate fabrication just for the sake of discrediting Ron
This guy Joe is literally weirder than his Scientology guest.
this is definitely the worst Joe Rogan interview, he didn't really seemed to engage with Ron
I'm at the 8th minute of the video and I'm already descouraged of how he is treating this man. He seems to have something interesting to tell. I don't think I'll go further than 8 min., though😕
@@mitsuomits9077 You should go further than 8 minute, even though Joe becomes a piece of shit gradually. You understand a lot of things about scientology.
Probably because he has no fucking reason to respect him. He is a selfish, willfully ignorant order follower that handed his family over to a cult, and he doesn't even want to take responsibility for it.
@@ZerkinzTV Agree. Thousands of possibilities in human history that could be parsed through Miscavige family history. Back in the day-many hundreds of years ago the son would murder the father for the power. Joe has I think a low opinion of Scientology. Maybe he thinks Ron in going into Scientology is at fault. Besides, he doesn't have tits & chutzpah like Leah Remini.
@@ZerkinzTVHis kids choose to stay in "IT" & stalked the guy Whatever it Is seems easy to get in yet ppl need to Break Out of It that's Crazy in my book
Lets be real here, David Miscavige was seduced by the power and money. To say you don't care if a family member lives or dies is a serious thing. David CHOSE power and money over his own family. This makes him a failure as a human being.
Stefan doesn't agree with you
Felt that way from the very beginning,and although I appreciate and like Joe, I got very frustrated when he kept pressing Ron if he felt he maybe could have done something different with David to prevent his warped power rise and control. Of course he did, and I could see it probably agonized over it during the time before he left. Ron is a brilliant man, and a realist. I wanted to reach through the airwaves and give this man a granddaughterly hug. Know that Joe was trying to dig deep, but he seemed to be pushing a bit hard, but it wasn't a deal breaker, just brought out a compassion spot in my heart. I cannot believe that this organization is still operating with a tax free status. Will be contacting my Senator on this, and hope everyone else does as well. Also please look at the International Church of Christ which is in no way connected to the United Church of Christ which probably has more members than Scientology. Another cult which supports separation from families. Mothers of members are often told their mothers are simply referred to as earthly mothers as opposed to spiritual mothers which creates a chasm in many familis. Skip McKean is the founder. Google him.
Laurie Van Den Beldt it cause your a women stop thinking emotionally
Joe must not be familiar with "power" in a historical sense and what it might be like to rule over the beliefs of people. It's enticing and you definitely don't have to blame parenting, that just removes all responsibility from david and implies he couldn't live his own life cause daddy was mean.
You assume all families are worth prioritizing over power and money--all aren't. That said, you'd think, since Mscavige's father was the one who got him into the cult, DM would've shown some preferential consideration. It's all very dysfunctional, on multiple levels.
This interview could have gone far better had Joe any understanding of what cults are capable of. He's talking to Ron like he was in a nefarious chess club.
Yeah, one of the few times I've seen Joe be a little condescending to his interviewees. Most of the time he does a great job trying to get their perspective. This time he seems to lack some respect for Ron.
Because its so unbeliveable Joe wants to laugh at it. But Ron was in this for 42 years and thats basically joe laughing at his whole life
@@pavement66 Yeah, he seems condescending, juvenile and plane dumb not to understand gravity of what this man is saying to him.
@@MB-dg3lr I think he actually physically dislikes this man. Like he can not comprehend how he got his son in this cult, bc he would never do that to his child or children if he has. I think he feels Like this guy is a bad dude
Yeah I am almost on Joe side all the time. Yet he is being condescending to this guy for his belief. However, Joe is just as obsessive as this guy and scientology but with weed.
I feel like Joe rogan would be the #1 guy to understand how a cult brainwashes and manipulates people. Its crazy how disrespectful he is in this interview. Props to Ron on keeping it cool.
I joined Scientology in the early sixties, then left after only one year. This man's explanations of the group is probably the most BALANCED I've ever seen, anywhere. Scientology DOES have many good points, but the cultish, high sales pressure tactics they employ are completely due to LRH's pathology, without question or doubt.
To be fair, I joined the Mormons and they harassed me and my family constantly, yet people bang on about how 'nice' they are.
@@davemagic69
CONGRATULATIONS. You're a survivor.
Joe was so disrespectful and condescending at times it was painful to watch. And when he insinuated that he wrote the book only to make a buck, I wanted to punch him. To his credit, Ron pushed through and very passionately made his point about the reasons behind the book.
It was bad. Plus the guy has no other money other than social security like he said multiple times. Who cares if the guy wanted to make some money. like fuck off Joe you make money off OTHER peoples stories.
i couldn't agree with you more. totally disrespectful to his guest. it has changed my view of Joe to some degree - total bummer.
But he's the leader of a "religion" that brainwashes people into paying them money to gain "rank" within it. If you have a mental issues they lock you up and leave you for dead.
I agree ☝️ he was really rude and definitely condescending at times. You could see Ron being uncomfortable with his behaviour at times, but he handled it with class.
Maybe all that Scientologist communication training was effective 🤷♀️😊
It’s called good journalism. Pushing different narratives so the full picture is seen. Maybe you’ve seen to many modern day softball cnn interviews. Joe instead covered all bases not just propping up his guest. That’s why joe is the best
Surprised at Joe's tone in this piece. He's usually very empathic and willing to see things from other peoples' POV, but him hammering on Ron about "do you think you could have done anything different?" over and over... damn, Joe. Half the man's family is still in a cult. Maybe ask the question twice and let it go.
EENewton I think this actually made Joe really Sad. Like, He is struggling. Then Bravo got treated like crap.
EENewton yes lets remove all responsibilty from shitty adults and put it on their dying parents
...I'm not sure what your point was here?
Im agreeing with you
Ohhhhh I follow you now. Thanks for clarifying. :)
He's not even letting him complete his sentence! Man Hurts to watch
Joe this is disgusting, reinterview this man
I feel like Joe held a grudge against him from the start at 5:25 when Joe was joking around and Ron was being serious and said let me continue my story
I have major asthma...i went thru terrible things as a kid. Shots..nights spent in steam showers..etc. What really helped me was when i learned to be calm about it. Thats what happened with David. It wasnt magical at all. Haha
Same.
Agreed although I’ve never suffered from asthma so im no expert it’s good to hear from someone with a similar experience like what David and his father went through. I feel bad for his dad trying to find something to help his son and getting poisoned by what this cult became. think many things have a psychosomatic factor. This reminds me of Rasputin he got power and influence simply because he became close to royal family because their son had if I remember correctly hemophilia or porphyria which is apparently passed down through a lot of royals because of the intermarriage and Rasputin knew how to calm the boy down and after his supposed ministrations the boy Andre ? I think his name was had periods of recovery and the parents were so grateful because they were so worried about their son and had tried everything else and nothing worked. Sad huh?
Bravo
I think that's what he means
When my asthma started i was cool as a cucumber, even during attacks just stoicly enduring. And when they would go away i would lay down and sleep (it would come at night).
After the first few attacks i knew it sucked but it didn't kill me so, the scare was mostly off.
During the months it increased in frequency but i kept living normally, not even worrying about it much.
After about 6 months it got to the point i had trouble for days, not full on attacks but close enough. Then i finally got it checked out seriously, was diagnosed and got meds.
My point being; that it does always help to be calm. But that alone cannot prevent the attacks, sadly.
On the flipside the meds have prevented it so far (3+ years in).
It depends on the person, the cause and type of asthma no doubt.
This was by far Joe’s worst interview. The last 20 minutes were a disaster.
Joe is known for his terrible interviews. That is his calling card.
It felt like he dismissed the entire story he was just told, and then started playing with what-ifs on the life of a man who pretty much lost everything.
Joe "bullies an old man" Rogan
Yep. Cocky is the first word that comes to mind. No respect!
He was kind of a dick yeah, but Ron didn't seem to care much.
I'm not through the whole video but I feel it's more of trying to call him on his Bullshit, joe doesn't do these to placate people, he's trying to get straight answers like a true interviewer should -.- will update if at the end I see it differently
how? when? can you post time stamps? I really dont get why ppl are saying he was being a dick. All I heard from Joe was honest questions
Joe clearly went into this with a bias thinking Ron was a prick to write a book about his son, but Ron clearly wrote a book about how life in a cult tore apart his family. It wasn't a trash novel bashing his son for money and fame. It was a warning.
And I don't understand how Joe was never able to comprehend that & warm-up, even slightly, as he maintained an even level of chilled rudeness, icy dismissiveness, and frigid egotistical mockery pretty much throughout an interview with a clearly heartbroken man who had to give-up everything to escape a cult.
Can you imagine the bravery and strength in overcoming the cognitive dissonances of 42 years worth of brainwashing and facing losing your family at 75-years-old, with absolutely nothing but the cloths on your back and a few momentos, to be free?
What a wasted opportunity, Joe. You had someone worthy of tremendous respect on your show, and you treated him like a petty nuisance...a boring obligation out for revenge... that maybe/might get you a few views from those Scientology haters.
You even managed to sprinkle in a few real dickhead responses as if it's so impossible for you to understand what it's like to search for the deeper meaning in life, Mr. DMT, and have that search mocked by the mainstream.
Many people go on similar journeys in their own way only to discover they were looking in the wrong place. And it takes a damn brave soul to face that truth. How sad you couldn't see that & respect it for what it was.
Wow...loved this. Put into words what all of us were thinking. Thank you. Someone with EMPATHY
"Joe clearly went into this with a bias thinking Ron was a prick to write a book about his son". Okay, first off you are a fucking idiot thinking Joe had bias with Ron from the beginning. Where the fuck that come from?
@@astupidviet7416 are you watching the same interview as the rest of us??
Mr dmt lol
You are have to understand Joe is comedian that is the first thing. Secondly he open minded enough to look at both side objectively non bias to have a fucking fair interview. Have some perspective kids or I guess you are too young for a “deep” conversation. Bunch of headline readers 👎
You're very brave, Mister Miscavige. Thank you for telling your story.
I like when Ron indirectly called Joe 'A difficult bastard' at 55:00 . LOL
This is the 1st time I was put off by Joe as an Interviewer. He was rude, glib & condescending. I usually like him for being the exact opposite--respectful & open-minded--which he was not IMO. There's a reason for his unusual behavior and that's important to know here, but I don't pretend to have any idea what it is....🤔
my theory is Joe's personal relationship with his father. He used to talk about how his father was a hard ass and beat the shit out of his mom. Joe did a rolling stone interview where his sister ended up commenting how Joe made most stuff up about his father and how his mother actually kidnapped him and took him out of state. His father was contacted and ended up saying that he's gone too far and made up lies about me" he will never be my son again". Wouldn't be suprised if Joe was projecting hard on this interview, he said something like the father must really have a strained relationship with his son to write a book and try to earn money this way.
STFU 😑
Ron’s adorable, bless him - he reminds me of my Dad. 🥰
Probably the same for Joe..... unfortunately I guess
I can't believe Joe read that statement from the Church of Scientology.... Should have just told them to f*ck off.
You can't tell their lawyers to fuck off. Joe did the smart thing, just view it as evidence of just how fucked up Scientology is.
+Frank bullsh*t...he should have said if his son wants to come on live ok otherwise bite it
Their lawyers have nothing to do with anything.
People can present whatever they want, he's doing it to help present the view of an even playing field.
It grants the podcast a way to be "even."
It's a decent call.
Why?
Why not just read the statement they made in the interested in being "even"
Why have his son on? Did his son ask?
What are you even on about.
And, don't know about you but the ad on it was an ad for Scientology ad which shits on Ron Miscavige. Odd eh?
The fact that joe rogan read that scientology monologue in the start makes me think that joe eats baby skin jerky with the elites at bohemian grove
🙌💯🙄😬
You are talking out of your ass you stupid qanon 🤡
Anthony Kingery i agree
I want to know when he last saw Shelly Miscavige
Right??? Where the hell is Shelly Miscavige?! I think she’s either dead or being held against her will
@@NewJerseyRaver Yup, either way its messed up
Me too that woman has been missing for years
Joe was an asshole. I paused around 1:10:00 because I couldn't listen to his inconsiderate questions. I'll continue listening though for Ron Miscavige. I hope he reads the comment section and sees how people feel about the way he treated the guest.
Stephanie R. Prob on his kindle riiiiight now lol
Stephanie R. Unfortunately, Joe always says he stops listening or reading when anything negative is said about him so I doubt any of these comments will get through.
and u believe him brian? ...
the age of internet and internet comments
some dude says he may read a few but will stop if there's bad stuff
.... and... you ... believe that up front no questions asked? .... :p (u may not up front cuz he talks more about it but... astill.. kinda.. :v )
Joe has said many times that he takes negative criticism to heart when its warranted and tries to learn from it. However, he did say he doesn't read youtube comments. Hope someone gives him some direct feedback about this one though, felt like it was someone else doing the interview. Felt bad for the old man.
counter proposal: if joe had us believe he bothered read the comments...
what then?...
(Im rherotic fancy bullshitting that I think it'd turn to hell round here -- more than already does :P )
Joe was very disrespectful.. re-interview him
I'm so disappointed that Joe turned this from an interview into a bashing of this sweet man. Did the cult of Scientology get to you after you interviewed Leah? The difference between the respect in her interview and Ron's interview is crazy. I'm so glad that people like Leah, Mike, and Ron have been coming out and continuing to come out and speak about how horrible Scientology is. Keep speaking out you're making a difference!
This was the first full podcast I’ve watched. It was so fascinating to me. I always binge watch the JRE Clips that are 5-15 minutes long.
I like Joe a lot (usually) but IDK something about the vibe of this interview was off - I don't know if Joe was high or if he was just in a "fuck it" mood, but I felt like he was really kinda disrespectful to Ron (ESPECIALLY pulling an aggressive late night talk show host move and going after Ron repeatedly on if he felt guilty/responsible for David being in power and the "what would you do different" onslaught - Really Joe?! WTF dude, yeah the guy has made some mistakes, what are you wanting him to do cry or jump on the desk in anger? RUDE AS FUCK, broski)
Feel like Ron is a sincere and down to earth kinda guy, and a good intentional one at that, respect and condolences to him (good stories BTW too) - Would very much like to see Ron and Leah team up to squash this parasite
Yeah really douchey behavior from Joe, and a bizarre sort of smugness and goofiness that was totally unwarranted given the subject matter and the fact that Ron was being very straightforward and honest. The more I watch Rogan the more I think a lot of the good aspects of his character are just an act, and deep down he's really like this all the time. It's disappointing.
As a dad, I can see why Joe got a little put off by his lackadaisical attitude towards his son's welfare. Instead of treating his son's asthma he had someone tell him it was all in his head, he meh'd when his son wanted to leave school to go work on a boat with a creepy old man. That's some fucked up parenting, and he should feel guilty imo.
Stephen Schaal It wasn't like the man just randomly walked in to the studio. Joe invited him as a guest to tell a story. I really don't believe he got triggered by that. He's more in control of his emotions than that.
But Joe can be weird at times. He's super cool 99,9% of the time but it happens that he loses it a bit and often I don't get why.
Don't know what happened, maybe he finally tried coke (at times he actually was a bit of a coke asshole), maybe he had a bad day. Maybe he knows something about the man that we don't.
I kind of wonder if the church of Scientology somehow payed Joe off to get him ask these questions.
There’s a lot of response here attacking Joe that’s from the Scientology group, we should all focus on the fact that Scientology is a fraud and a science fiction :)
Come on joe... he wanted to tell you stuff and you blew it. Just interview yourself next time.
I know ! I was thinking that exact same thing
Dard Nelson Is uoturoutoutootooyin
I never realized how much of a fuckin dooshbag joe is until this video.
It's all in the book
The father is clearly another conman with little facts and alot of hearsay, Joe was rather polite about it, you're deluding yourselves
So you're telling me there is an organisation holding people against their will and making them work around the clock for couple bucks and nobody is doing shit about it??This is mind blowing !!WTF !!!
Yea this podcast really bothers me I’ve watched for years but I finally seen this episode and it honestly made me realize I kinda put joe on a pedestal and thought he couldn’t do wrong when it came to his podcast but this interview was extremely hard to watch due to his blatant disrespect. Maybe he was playing devil’s advocate, but there’s a line. Joe crossed it with this man and owes him another interview and an apology.
Really? This was the one? There have been so many others where he just goes ape shit. He is a *short* tempered man who thinks he is a giant intellectually.
www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/66mced/this_is_the_real_reason_why_joe_was_cagey_and/
@@fbi1315 most of it is scientology cover up. He has admitted to domestic abuse
Scientology is the most un-fun thing ever.
Yurrin Tinckelsonn it's for mentally weak people
d d or ur iq
"it's for mentally weak people" as he walks into church...LOL
"Prove it by turning that poop into wine" - L. Ron *HOYABEMBE*
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Why would David's psychosis be Ron's fault? David is a sociopath and that isn't his father's fault, so why should Ron feel any guilt for how his son turned out?
Marty.R Woodcock becasue Joe was abused by his dad and he blames his dad for alot of shit that happened in his life, so he thinks that Ron should feel guilty for the way his son turned out
Marty.R Woodcock he did bring his family into Scientology tho
Psychosis?
think psychosis can come with antisocial personality disorder....but it's more in the form of paranoia and delusions...not hallucinations.
LOL. In a timespan of 30+ years, Ronnie boy cannot think of things he would have done differently. Dad of the year, without a doubt. My guess is Ron and David have more in common then Ron likes, the apple doesn't fall far from the sociopath's tree. Like Joe said in another podcast: this wasn't a conversation, this was an interview. To me: it felt like a book report, Ron had no part in any of this, evil was all around him but Ron is just there in the wrong time at the wrong place, every time. Sure guy.
Ron was a really good sport about this interview. It was fascinating to listen to him.
Why is Joe so rude in this interview? :(
Because Ron is a dumbass.
Joe always plays the devil's advocate as to avoid being sued by whoever they are talking about.
Issues. Something about the guest that makes JR super uncomfortable. What? Why? I don t know. What I know is that JE was unprofessional
@@fragosa @i f Luckily for him he has no need to be professional. He is a podcaster not a president. His guest had a slight aggression from the start with "LISTEN! etc." This was most likely not intentional but it comes with age and ignorance. Joe reads people well and likes to stay in control.
@@purecountry6672 still, JR behaved in a weird way, even for a podcaster.