Brisket Smoked On A Gas Grill! Proof Pellet Smokers Are A SCAM?

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  • Gas. Grill. Brisket.... 3 Words I Thought Would Never Come Out Of My Mouth! BUT, with all the hype surrounding new pellet grill smokers claiming better "smoke" I can't help but wonder in a blind taste test if a simple gas grill brisket smoked with a pellet tube can turn out a comparable brisket to a proper dedicated pellet smoker?
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  • @jcap2012
    @jcap2012 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Very interesting comparison. To be clear, you added a tube with wood chips on one side and a tube of pellets on the other in the gas grill? I'm not surprised then. Would love to see this again with a pellet tube in each.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The chip tube didn’t burn so it was only pecan pellets

    • @jcap2012
      @jcap2012 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SmokingDadBBQ Gotcha. Feels like some commenters just didn't like that pellets didn't win!

  • @troyv8302
    @troyv8302 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I have a pellet grill (Weber SmokeFire), kettle, and kamado. Each has its uses. The SmokeFire smokes better than most pellet grills and has the venting in slits off the back where the smoke circles the protein before exiting. It also sears as good as a gas grill. That said, the kettle and kamado for sure produce better smoke flavor. Funny thing, my family likes the lighter smoke profile (and better bark and smoke ring) of the pellet grill. Go figure.

  • @mikeminarich1159
    @mikeminarich1159 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Why don’t you do a triangle test for these tasting comparisons?

  • @hector6005
    @hector6005 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I have been cooking on an offset, kamado joe, and gas grill with pellet tube for years. I almost bought a pellet grill until I tried one of my friend's and realized the gas tube gave at least the same smoke flavor. I rate them 1. Offset 2. Kamado 3. gas with smoke tube 4. pellet grill; especially if you consider the price. The Kamado is my goto because it just does everything. I have even done open fire with the embers Argentina style with a firebox next to it. The Kamado is just so versatile you can't beat it.

    • @n2skiing76
      @n2skiing76 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Depends on the pellet grill. I’ve watched a lot about the lone star pellet grill and it’s said to be very close flavor to an offset. Also will take up to 50% wood chips sold by LSG. Also heard Yoder is good but seen better review from Lone star

  • @wesleydrew9242
    @wesleydrew9242 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    This is a fun video. I've never owned a pellet grill and have no plans to get one, but I've had good BBQ come off one that rivaled my efforts on my Kamado Joe. The reason I like this video is it may encourage some gas grill owners that feel intimidated by the idea of smoking anything to drop the $20 on a smoke tube and try it out. After they catch the bug of making their own BBQ and they start the deep dive into how to up their game, I hope they remember to come back to your channel to go from beginner to master with whatever method they choose.

    • @user-ho1yn6ms7y
      @user-ho1yn6ms7y 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Agreed! I was a gas grill guy (Napoleon) for years and years until I tried a smoker tube on my grill. That set me down the rabbit hole! I now currently have 4 Kamado’s (KJ classic 2, KJ Jr. and two Akorns) and I’m even debating getting an offset just for fun.😂 This is an amazing hobby to discover!

  • @DrBar-B-Que-nx2ye
    @DrBar-B-Que-nx2ye 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    Ok James...let's talk. I have a few issues with this video and the way it comes across. 1. You mentioned that you had to purchase the Weber propane grill in order to do this comparison but don't mention how much it cost. I guarantee it was significantly more expensive than the pellet grill you put it up against so from a cost perspective, this is not a fair comparison especially if you are a person looking to purchase a new grill trying to decide between gas and pellet vs you already have a gas grill and just want to add an inexpensive pellet tube to be able to produce decent smoked food. 2. You wanted to compare the abilities of these two grills when it comes to smoking a brisket but you supplemented the gas grill with a pellet tube therefore it would only be fair if you did the same with the pellet grill. I have used a pellet tube in a less expensive pellet smoker in the past in order to improve the smoke signature of the final product and it works extremely well. Again, if you want to truly compare the abilities of the grills when it comes to smoking, you need to keep as many variable as possible the same in order for it to be a true and valid test. 3. You ran the cooks exactly the same as much as possible which is fine and I have run this exact same test myself but there is a second part of the test that must be considered in order to see the whole picture and that is to use any and all means possible to produce the absolute best final product you can. In other words, purposely do not maintain consistency between the 2 cooks but instead, use every option available to produce the absolute best smoked brisket possible on each grill and only then compare which is better. I argue that the way you cooked the brisket on the gas grill in this video will result in just about the best final product a gas grill can produce but using a pellet grill with it's ability to smoke at a much lower and consistent temperature over a longer period of time and the ability to finish the cook with a long hold right on the grill will result in a far superior brisket to what you produced in this video with a significantly better smoke profile. And even then you can take it to the next level if you have a pellet grill with the ability to run actual wood chips in addition to strictly pellets like my Lone Star Pellet Grill (or the ability to add wood chunks like your Camp Chef), as this feature will produce a final product that is far superior to anything a gas grill can produce. Speaking of which, as we previously discussed, I would still love the opportunity to host you for a day of cooking on my Lone Star so that you can judge for yourself (see email I sent you 2 weeks ago) 😁👍

    • @JoeyDoingThings
      @JoeyDoingThings 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I think the test is still interesting. So many people just buy a pellet grill, and don’t do anything more to get better flavor. This experiment shows that pellet grills aren’t that great, they are just so convenient that the convenience gets people cooking. He showed that a gas grill with a smoke tube gets more smoke flavor on a brisket than just a pellet grill alone. If he had given the pellet cooker a smoke tube, it might have fared better. I think the test just shows that everyone who uses a pellet smoker should consider doing something extra to get smoke flavor.

    • @invisiblekid99
      @invisiblekid99 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Some valid points, however I’d counter them with the intention of the video which I took it as this.
      If you have a gas BBQ and want better smoke and you don’t have the money for a pellet grill can you get a reasonable brisket as cheaply as possible. Buying a pellet tube is the cheapest way of improving your BBQ.
      You don’t need to buy a gasser like the one James did, but granted you can get cheap pellet smokers and cheaper than that Weber gas bbq.
      Should he have got the best out the pellet? Sure but I think that is another video test as I do think my opinion of his intention was do you have to have a pellet smoker to get good smoked food wins out here.
      I’d add also you had a large tray of fat in the small pellet grill. Having optimised the cooking set up on the Weber I would have liked to have seen nothing to stop the air flow on the pellet. Would it have made much of a difference? Possibly not.

    • @DrBar-B-Que-nx2ye
      @DrBar-B-Que-nx2ye 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@invisiblekid99 I agree 100% with your comment that if you already have a gas grill (which most people do), adding an inexpensive smoke tube can result in a decent final product. I am just pointing out the potential for misinterpreting the video to mean that a gas grill can smoke just as well as a pellet grill.

    • @DrBar-B-Que-nx2ye
      @DrBar-B-Que-nx2ye 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@JoeyDoingThings I agree that this experiment is interesting and in my comment, I even mentioned that I have done this experiment myself which taught me quite a lot. I do however take issue with your comment that "pellet grills aren't that great". Everyone's situation is different. Some people want that hands on experience and don't mind tending to their cooker for extended periods of time while others want/need the convenience a pellet grill can offer while still producing fantastic food. They just need to spend a little time and learn how to get the most out of their grill. In their situation, a pellet grill might actually meet their needs best. I compete in KCBS competitions using only pellet grills and have received numerous calls in all categories over the past few years so obviously pellet grills can produce awesome BBQ. It doesn't take much effort but regardless of the type of grill you chose, if your goal is to produce the best food possible , you should work at it and spend a little time educating yourself as to what works best for you.

    • @rbrown2895
      @rbrown2895 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Good experiment, but with my pellet grill all I have to do is turn it on to get smoke and I can add a smoke tube if more is desired. I don’t have to rearrange or fumble with the burner covers. Nice experiment though. 👍😎👍

  • @JustGrillingandChilling.
    @JustGrillingandChilling. 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No one does “comparison” videos anywhere near as well as SDBBQ….. research/detail/charting/ etc…. James’ videos are such a great resource and fantastically entertaining….. (his marriage must be bullet proof to survive Sarah saying their neighbour made the best ribs she has ever had….😂😂)

  • @jl6634
    @jl6634 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think you maximized the method of cooking a brisked on the pellet to give it the best foot forward. The strength of the pellet is that it allows you to control the temps so you should have different times of cooking at different temps to maximize the cook better. By holding the temp constant against the gas you've neutralized the comparison points on what makes the pellet shine.
    Additionally, I feel that be rendering the tallow, you cut off some of the airflow so it wasn't really apples to apples as a comparison as well

  • @n2skiing76
    @n2skiing76 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love my gas grill but I feel gas grill is better for some situations like hot dogs brats and burgers. And searing a steak after Sous Vide. If going for Pellet I’d go for a lone star. I have the Kamado but have not used yet since just back from vacation and got it right before left lol. Just my personal preferences

  • @edwardprokopchuk3264
    @edwardprokopchuk3264 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Smoldering pellets will always produce more smoke than burning pellets.

  • @CharlesBurnsPrime
    @CharlesBurnsPrime 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Smoke tubes release more of the white, partially combusted smoke, yet all recommendations emphasizes blue, more fully combusted smoke, even to the point of putting flavor wood under burning coals so their smoke further oxidizes. How can a smoke tube yield decent results?

  • @Tofflemire5
    @Tofflemire5 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I'd put my $300 weber kettle grill against a pellet grill anytime.

    • @dgordon130
      @dgordon130 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Tofflemire, you are so correct. I won a pellet grill and used it for a year. It smells good cooking, but just doesn't get the smoke profile, at all. Sold it, and kettles rock imho. For the money you can't do any better for everything.

    • @605aerialphotography5
      @605aerialphotography5 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Absolutely! Have had pellet smokers and propane grills. Now have 4 weber kettles nothing better than charcoal and wood!

  • @Spirituallybuff
    @Spirituallybuff 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like the pellets my wife loves the gas grill....

  • @thatdamnsamsquanch
    @thatdamnsamsquanch 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Consistent heat, good smoke production until it hits180 degrees. After that, all you're doing is cooking it till its tender. No reason at all why a gas grill can't do that.

  • @scott3522
    @scott3522 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video. I have a Weber Genesis so will be trying this on some pork ribs.
    Questions- (1) the pellet tube placed next to the left burner once it starts to smoke will it then starve the burner of oxygen? (2) what’s the reasoning behind having two pellet tubes? More intense smoke?

  • @CoolJay77
    @CoolJay77 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In the comments, they are trying to throw fire at you, but it is all pellet smoke but no fire. LOL IMHO, this has been one of the most revealing experiments that you have done on the channel. Now, I will duck.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I get people don’t like facts

  • @talkingdeer61455
    @talkingdeer61455 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Each type of smoker is different and has a learning curve. In Texas I helped cook thanksgiving dinners in offset wood fired smokers to give meals away for over 8000 people for several years. I have won competitions using wood fired offset, gas fired, electric, and pellet smokers not pellet grills, but vertical pellet smokers that hold 5 Briskets at a time. It’s all in learning your smoker and how to use it. My favorite smoker I use at home is the Pit Boss vertical Copperhead series 5. It has a stainless steel interior five racks double wall insulation.
    For ease of use. For the most work and constant monitoring involved. The old offset 1/4 inch steel Texas style smokers have proven themselves through the test of time and quality of the protein they produce. I’m a 69 year old rancher that has sponsored many BBQ’s on my Ranch using Beef that I raised. I’ve even smoked whole carcass steers over open pits. A true pit master can cook great Bbq using any type of smoking method!

  • @loseerich493
    @loseerich493 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My experience is that it's not that pellets grills don't produce enough smoke, it's they don't produce the right smoke. I've used smoke tubes & whatnot in my natural gas grill & also my cheapo pellet grill. Juice isn't worth the squeeze for me. If I have to go through the extra steps to still have pellets on hand to use in a smoke tube in a gas grill application, have to light the thing off, have to reload it along the way etc, the smoke I get isn't worth the time/expense/hassle. On the pellet grill using a pellet smoke tube never got me any more smoke flavor intensity, so not worth it.
    I can get killer looking bark & smoke rings on my pellet for pork & beef items alike, but not the wood flavor intensity. My wife likes pellet smoker stuff & it's pretty to look at so there's that. To me, it's charcoal & smoke wood or straight offset cooker in order to get me what I want but it's not always about what I want thus I keep 3 types of cooking implements in the stable & rotate using all 3 at various times for various applications/needs (with natural gas grill being used far less than the other 2 types of implements).

  • @roondoggers87
    @roondoggers87 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don’t think there is more biased bbq channel out there than this one. 😂 Each type of grill have their place and strengths and weaknesses.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Go listen to people sponsored by pellets if you like. I am not sponsored by either and in a blind test if you can’t beat a gas grill with a pellet tube why bother

  • @GoandLove
    @GoandLove 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The story at the end about your darkest day made me laugh so much. I’ve had very dark days myself 🤧😂
    I currently have a Treager and got it so it would be easy to manage.,. Yet I still butcher some cooks. But I’m definitely getting the hang of it, and am SO close to just getting a Big Joe.
    Thanks for the great video as always!!!

  • @Topplopp911
    @Topplopp911 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Your pellet grill is not the better one out there my friend, I've been using both for over 20 years and if you had a better pellet grill it would speak for itself , your video revealed no smoke coming out of either , only you smoke tube when you were trying to figure where to put it. Bad video.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      It’s the same price as the gas grill. I previously compared it to the wood wind pro which costs 2x more and there was no difference. Something you would have heard if you actually watched the video

  • @whaattheef2169
    @whaattheef2169 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve used a smoke tube and have never gotten the same taste as a woodwin pro with the smoke box 💀

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i did a side by side but at the time only had one tube so i put the tube in the cheap pellet grill vs the woodwind with the box and the results were near identical... adding a tube to the woodwind i am sure it would be better but then i would be curious about adding 2 tubes to the cheap grill

  • @teslamartin1789
    @teslamartin1789 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    -You’ve added a pellet tube(s) to a gas grill and found better results, than just gas or a pellet smoker with no tube.
    -Now add a pellet tube(s) to a pellet smoker and you’ll no doubt have even better results than a pellet smoker alone. No doubt better than gas with a pellet tube.
    -Add a pellet tube(s) to a Camp Chef with the smoke box running, and you’ll no doubt get better results thanks the above two.
    -Add a pellet tube(s) to an offset and you’ll likely get better results still.
    Does this mean pellet smokers are a waste over gas. :) Nope. It means it of add more smoke by any means to any of them, it will be better. That’s what this shows. :)

  • @talezfromthedashcam3138
    @talezfromthedashcam3138 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'll hang on to my KJ as long as I can (forever) If I were to change , it would be an offset smoker with eaithe lump charcoal or wood. Hard to justify for 2 of us.

  • @billystpaul8907
    @billystpaul8907 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A very different video this morning. I never did think I would ever see a gas grill in your backyard deck.. I hope the Big Joe community don't drum you out of the Kamado community. Never have owned a gas grill. The meat always tastes a little off with that gas taste. A very nice gesture giving away the Weber to someone who needs it.

  • @somewherefishing382
    @somewherefishing382 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey James. Off topic. But did you buy another pizza over or are you back on your big Joe for pizza ?

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i do miss the oven but its 95% the same on the kamado so i am doing that for pizza's

    • @somewherefishing382
      @somewherefishing382 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SmokingDadBBQ awesome to know! I do have questions about the dojoe then. For my Webber summit do I need to buy the original half moon plates on top of the dojoe? I was looking at some videos and it seems like they were stacking the two plates original and the dojoe plates together so it would sit flat? Is this correct ?

  • @michaeldobyns3420
    @michaeldobyns3420 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    PELLET SMOKERS ARE THE BEST!!!!!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      CAPS ARE THE BEST

  • @davemclean8086
    @davemclean8086 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I know on pit boss older models you can adjust more or less pellets for more or less smoke

  • @cykruithoff874
    @cykruithoff874 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video as always. I had a large bge for years and changed to a big Joe 3 because of your videos. It is a complete game changer. You’re a good dude, thanks for the great content.

  • @andrewevans5750
    @andrewevans5750 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Charcoal and wood are the only way.

  • @billjohnson7941
    @billjohnson7941 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now try the same with an electric smoker.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I don’t have any plans to buy one of those

    • @admranger
      @admranger 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SmokingDadBBQ Some condominium complexes only allow electric grills. Need to hit up an electric grill company for a donation to help their sales out!

  • @stevepool8034
    @stevepool8034 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Sara has developed an admirable discerning palate for proper barbecue lo these few years. 👍Very cool, props, guys!😊

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stevepool8034 thanks

  • @pacman_17
    @pacman_17 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I just found out they sell downdraft kits which pulls the smoke down like an offset stack. Instead of letting the heat and smoke rise to the top then getting pulled out by the stack which is also on top. So the hot air and smoke is mostly wasted. The kit should work on the Z Grills.

  • @MrGadget77015
    @MrGadget77015 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok, you added a smoke tube to the gas grill, Good for you. You should have also added a smoke tube to the pellet grill. Also, myself and others know that even on 225 to 275 pellet smokers, do not put out much smoke so we add our smoke tubes, This is my experience.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well then do you add a second to the gas grill? It keeps going and going so had to pick a method

    • @MrGadget77015
      @MrGadget77015 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'll add two smoke tubes to my pit boss 850 ,full tubes will last 4 hours per tube, depending on how much smoke you want for a brisket.

    • @MrGadget77015
      @MrGadget77015 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Also if you look at the outter color of your gas grill brisket you can tell it received more smoke versus the pellet grill.

  • @robertwoods4457
    @robertwoods4457 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I have that same exact Weber grill. I’ve done ribs, pork butts, basically everything you can do on a smoker and on a grill and came out amazing

  • @iisreset
    @iisreset 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Cool video! I actually have that same gas grill and love it. I do have a Weber Summit Kamado sitting right beside it so dont think I would ever do a smoke on the gas, but the result you got are pretty cool! I think another thing driving the Pellet market is just how easy they are to kick off and maintain. Some people want to cook because they like to cook and other like to cook because they just want the quick results. Thanks for the video!

  • @jimmynguyen7956
    @jimmynguyen7956 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video!

  • @prann100
    @prann100 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You only had one burner going on the gas grill?

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes just one side

    • @tdackjordan5873
      @tdackjordan5873 7 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SmokingDadBBQ Do you set it at high , medium, or low temperature?

  • @Wattsonthegrill
    @Wattsonthegrill 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love a good brisket. I can't wait until Costco opens in BRANTFORD because getting out to Ancaster is a bit of a challenge for me. I do have a tube and a Broil king pellet smoker at my place. I do agree both don't smoke very well. Looking into an offset for next spring. Cheers!!! Great video my friend.

  • @tricepilot
    @tricepilot 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Interesting test but you won't see any gas grill smoking here in Central Texas

    • @Kybone
      @Kybone 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@tricepilot mom has been doing it for 20 years in North Central Texas - she's turned out to be right on many things the older I get 😏

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Can’t argue with moms 😂 for me this was first and last but it confirms what I thought to be true about the quality of pellet smokers in the larger world of smokers

  • @FOGOcharcoal
    @FOGOcharcoal 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love the premise here James!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hope you’re feeling better

  • @SchoolHardKnocks
    @SchoolHardKnocks 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a Weber SmokeFire EX6 Gen2, and have watched videos since 2019 about getting the most out of pellet smokers for a brisket. For the past three years now I have done various methods on the SmokeFire, and have found different techniques will produce a brisket that is very close to an offset smoker. We have a BBQ restaurant near our house that has won in competitions, they use offset smokers. When comparing mine vs theirs people most of the time pick mine, thinking it’s the BBQ restaurants. I believe for a pellet smoker you have to use the top rack with water pan underneath. This accomplishes three needed elements to help the cook and smoke: adds moisture to chamber, stabilizes the heat directly underneath the brisket, easy clean up. Second thing to do is put the brisket on cold (right out of frig) onto a well heated smoker at 200 degrees. The cold brisket will take longer to reach the 140 internal temperature, which is the point the brisket will stop absorbing smoke flavor. The smoker 200 degrees set temperature is to create the maximum chance for the pellets to generate smoke. The higher the heat, the less the pellets produce smoke. This step will last for 6 - 8 hours. You can also lightly spray the brisket to help attract smoke all while adding another layer of flavor with what you mix in the bottle. Once the brisket reaches 140, now it’s time to render fat and build bark. Start to raise the smoker’s temperature by 25 degrees every hour until you get to 275. The incremental increase helps to reduce flat bowing up and too fast of moisture loss. Now wait for the brisket to push past the stall, then foil boat it. The water pan underneath the brisket will need to have water added once you increase past 200 degrees, but be careful because it will catch drippings. But keep water in the pan to help stabilize the smoker. Once the brisket has been in the foil boat start testing for tenderness around 195. The foil boat helps to balance out the flat & point’s temperature, cook in its own fat, and keep building bark. This method does take longer than others, but gives the brisket the best chance to absorb the most smoke. The last thing I will add is the type of pellets. The Smokin Pecan SHELL Pellets are by far the best smoke producing pellets I use for long low cooks. They burn longer and have higher levels of lignins than wood pellets.

  • @CraZyNOTRT
    @CraZyNOTRT 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I recently got into smoking on my char broil gas grill with smoke tubes. My first attempt was a pulled pork butt. I used 2x 1ft smoke tubes at the same time filled with a even mix of post oak, hickory, and cherry pellets from bear mountain, then slow cooked for about 7 hours. After i pulled it off the gas grill i put it in the oven to hold, the whole house started to smell like a bbq joint. Turned out awesome.
    Then started playing with whole chickens, and seeing if there was a difference in smoke profiles from the different pellets. Only used 1x 1ft smoke tube but lit both ends for extra smoke. The cherry by itself only has a very light smoke profile. But using straight hickory or post oak pellets or 50/50 mix of both provides a really good strong smoke profile.
    1ft smoke tube will smoke about 5-6 hours.
    Add a 2nd or even a 3rd smoke tube to get the stronger smoke flavor that you want.

  • @christianbureau6732
    @christianbureau6732 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I modify my gas BBQ with a multi fuel burner with a fan and temperature prob to make the best smoke no matter if you use wood, pellets or charcoal. Next time you are in Calgary come taste it, cheers

  • @mi-yamata1327
    @mi-yamata1327 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'd call myself a short time watcher but your channel convinced me to get a Kamado, and even further a Joe a couple years go. I'd also call myself the standard evolutionary griller lol. I had a gas grill and then life had me move so I opted to try a pellet in my new place. After the pellet grill kept tripping and stopped mid smoke of our Thanksgiving turkey, I got fed up and wanted to look for something reliable. Not going to lie, I was tempted to just go back to gas but then found your channel. I bought a Joe Jr, followed your videos and learned about seasoning (a couple salty and overcooked things came first) and I've smoked our Thanksgiving Turkey on my now Big Joe and 2 weeks ago I smoked some Dino Ribs for the first time and they were awesome! I'm working up to a brisket, but honestly I loved the ribs so much and we have a small family so it probably isn't coming too soon. You get comments like this all the time about your contributions to people's BBQ journey so I'm just adding my to the list!
    My wife says I'm out of control since I also now have a Breeo fire pit I like to cook on and with their release of their official grill coming out soon I'm wanting to add it to my collection so from me, thanks James and from my wife...well she enjoys the food :)

  • @briandaffern5108
    @briandaffern5108 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    All the fancy equipment we buy, when it really comes down to smoking, just add smoke, (yes, yes, I know there are other factors to consider).
    I was watching a recent Leroy and Louis vid, and they were smoking a full flat Iron.
    This would be an interesting experiment to try on your reverse flow, or kamado, just to see if you can break down all that collagen, and does it still taste good after a long smoke.

  • @TheRssr1979
    @TheRssr1979 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow 🤯
    I tried something similar with ribs in the past.
    Wasn’t bad
    I notices two smoke tubes. One directly under water pan too, correct?

  • @richardpowell8065
    @richardpowell8065 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "James, did you throw up in your mouth a little cooking on a gas grill?"...😂😂😂 I'm curious if adding the pellet smoker to a kamado can get it closer to stick burner smoke level (always trying to close the gap, right?). Great video, sir!

  • @tomroeder7348
    @tomroeder7348 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good experiment! I still use my gass'er from time to time when I want speed above all else, or if I am doing vegetables. It's nice to have the cleaner flavor from gas for some vegetables, imo.

  • @James-xg5rh
    @James-xg5rh 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So glad I gave up my pellet smoker years ago. I always add to add a smoke tube to the pellet smoker to get it at least decent. Kamados make waaaaay better smoky flavor in everything

  • @stevenl2092
    @stevenl2092 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great comparison video! It’s good to see a taste comparison using different cooker types. How about gas grill using pellet vs wood chips?

  • @slothlovechunk
    @slothlovechunk 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe because its cold smoke?

  • @katzsteel
    @katzsteel 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Question, with the pellet, did you cook at very low temp for 1.5 or 2 hours? That helps the pellet smoke flavor.

  • @terryjohnson7572
    @terryjohnson7572 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well, I had them all. The pellet grill is by far the best to get the smoke in the food your smoking. Mine is the simple one, no fancy . Paid $400.00 for it 13 or longer ago. It is a Char Griller. Changed the controller to a Trager controller. Plug and play, all made in China. Yes it was made like a tank, no thin flimsy steel. Getting the smoke in your food is knowing how to use it. People will not even look or read the instructions. Knowing how to adjust the stack and you want smoke. It has a setting for smoke, Kinda simple. I tried different pellets , but my favorite is from Sam's club. They only sell one kind in Dothan Alabama Sam's club. We cook pizza on it, if you haven't tried that, you don't know what you're missing out on home made pizza, make the crust using two ingredients. Found on SHOTGUN RED YOU TUBE CHANNEL.R.I.P. MR RED.

  • @bloodgain
    @bloodgain 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have you tried pecan shell pellets yet? I haven't gotten around to testing them, but several BBQ-tubers have tested them and said they significantly raise the smokiness you get from pellet smoking.

  • @herb7877
    @herb7877 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’ve used a smoke tube for years on my Weber gas grill. But once I went to a WSM it didn’t cut it anymore. I do use it once on a while in the WSM though. I’ve tried several times in my KJ but it smothered out.

  • @oscargideon5737
    @oscargideon5737 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not ludicrous at all, people use smoke tubes in pellet grills for a reason lol.

  • @robertwoods4457
    @robertwoods4457 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Every time I ever eaten brisket from anywhere, it taste like pot roast

    • @billbryant1288
      @billbryant1288 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You need to get out more! Ha!

  • @Keith80027
    @Keith80027 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for doing this on a LP grill. My city outlawed anything that burnt wood or charcoal for the month of August. I am on the carnivore diet and had to fall back to my gas grill to cook ribs, chicken, brisket and pulled pork. I played with my smoke tube a lot in placement in the gas grill, how full, how much fire to keep it going along with different types of pellets. Most of tries had bad smoke taste until I started mixing apple chips with apple pellets. This turned out the best flavor in my gas grill using 50-50 pellets to chips. But my Green Egg meat is far better than anything I cooked in August on gas. I did learn how to really improve my gas grill cooking when forced with a no burn ban when it happens.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      When life gives us lemons we deal with the cards we’ve been dealt. This was passable

  • @VincenzoLipomi
    @VincenzoLipomi 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It seems to me that the gas cooked has a lot of bad smoke on it, that is why the lady felt more smoke compared to the other one. The smoke coming from the device in that gas grill was too much white therefore bad bitter smoke coming from polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      All pellet tubes and pellet grills in their super smoke setting burn white smoke. This is an over simplification of good smoke / bad smoke / creosote

  • @CoolJay77
    @CoolJay77 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OMG, you have just turned a whole industry upside down! You ought to be hiding under some form of government protection program! LOL Even the bark looks more like a meteorite black from the one out of the gas grill. Did you refill the tubes?
    My first ever pork ribs were made in a gas grill indirect cooking with wood chips.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The fact even the bark looked better was equally a big surprise. Yes the tube needed a refill after a few hours

  • @badbob233
    @badbob233 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gas grills with a smoke box also give you the option of using wood chips. I recommend a cast iron one which will hold the heat better and last longer.

  • @user-ho1yn6ms7y
    @user-ho1yn6ms7y 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow, charity indeed James! “A local charity needed a new gas grill.” James proceeds to buy the most expensive gas grill Weber makes! Gotta love you Canadians!❤

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It was on clearance at Costco

  • @kennethsadler8744
    @kennethsadler8744 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have a yoder 640 pallet smoker and I'll put up against your gas anyway

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Neither one is good in comparison to my other grills … one is just slightly less bad

  • @EpicNinjaRides
    @EpicNinjaRides 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do it again but add a smoke tube to the pellet grill. Also most pellet grills have a smoke mode so use that for the first few hours and then turn up the heat to finish once the meat has taken all the smoke it can. I never have a problem getting good bark on my recteq. Like others have mentioned try the pecan shell pellets mixed with bear mountain or other quality pellet.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can add one and make it better sure I did that against the woodwind pro with the same grill. By that logic I can add a second to this and neutralize it again so where do we stop? This is about two grills priced the same comparing pellet to propane with pellets added

  • @M4ttNet
    @M4ttNet 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm a little confused why you wouldn't do a pellet tube on both cookers? If you are already going through the effort of firing up a smoke and operate the cooker that seems like a much better comparison. I mean it's interesting in theory could you get smoke favor like a simple pellet grill with a pellet tube, sure, just not a great comparison outside that I guess.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You can add one and make it better sure I did that against the woodwind pro with the same grill. By that logic I can add a second to this and neutralize it again so where do we stop? This is about two grills priced the same comparing pellet to propane with pellets added

  • @stevenscarborough6221
    @stevenscarborough6221 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice of you to purchase a good propane grill to donate.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It was on sale at Costco. Nice grill

  • @rickyl4656
    @rickyl4656 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fun video! Wonder if I should forward to my pellet grill buddy. You two are great together!

  • @IceBergGeo
    @IceBergGeo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I haven't finished watching, nor read the comments, so i don't know that James fixes/clarifies what he said at 3:40.
    The propane grill does not have to worry about the oxygen being consumed by the pellets, as the oxygen that is used to aid combustion of the propane is added in at the venturi tubes.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      This was in reference to using tubes in a Kamado with a small live fire

    • @IceBergGeo
      @IceBergGeo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SmokingDadBBQ that makes more sense. The lack of oxygen is why a burping of the grill is a good idea.

  • @pacman_17
    @pacman_17 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    With pellet smokers the manufactures need work on the airflow convection in the cook chamber. Most of them use the same design where the hot air and smoke doesn't pass over the meat. The smoke stack is usually on top for aesthetics which pulls all of the smoke away from the meat.

  • @jmitchell3
    @jmitchell3 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Answer is yes gas with tubes can do a heck of a job. I’ve done brisket, ribs, pork butt all in gas with pellet tubes with excellent results!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Pretty impressive for their cost

    • @jmitchell3
      @jmitchell3 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SmokingDadBBQ commented before i watched. Then i watched. I liked how you planned it out for airflow and such. Its super convenient especially on vacation or at relatives places where no smoker is available. Good stuff!

  • @umakegoodcookies
    @umakegoodcookies 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That fact that the choice was difficult is sufficient to show that the pellet isn't worth it.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I wasn’t expecting it to be close let alone better

  • @maureengosselin3185
    @maureengosselin3185 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think it would be a fair test since you used wood chips and pellets in the smoke tubes on the gas grill and only pellets in the pellet grill because wood chips will give a stronger smoke taste then pellets do.

    • @IceBergGeo
      @IceBergGeo 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Why would it not be fair? He is highlighting a hindrance of a pellet grill.

    • @maureengosselin3185
      @maureengosselin3185 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@IceBergGeo wood chips have stronger smoke taste then pellets do that is probably why the gas grill won with a stronger smoke taste because of the wood chips being used as smoke instead of 2 pellet tubes with pellets in them the pellet smoker had no wood chips in it, so it was a weaker taste in smoke and lost.

    • @IceBergGeo
      @IceBergGeo 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@maureengosselin3185 propane has no smokey smell/taste. Are you saying he shouldnt have used anything, to make it fair? No. He was highlighting how you can use a basic (though this one was far from it) propane grill to a decent tasting brisket.

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You can add a smoke tube to the pellet grill just like you can add a second to the propane. The options are endless and I think they land in a similar spot

  • @henrykrinkle5353
    @henrykrinkle5353 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I was so relieved when I finally unloaded my Traeger Timberline and then used the proceeds to buy a Joe Junior. There's just no comparison - the Kamado comes out on top! And that whirring fan noise from the pellet smoker drove the missus crazy :)
    Another interesting and informative vid, James . . . keep 'em coming!

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks so much

    • @VincenzoLipomi
      @VincenzoLipomi 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SmokingDadBBQ Did the same. Sold my Broil King pellet bbq and had a Kamado. Another parallel word opend up. No more dried ribs, no more smoke flavor so subtle to be called inexisting. Much more work to manage a kamado, but even more much satisfaction, flavor and cooking results.

  • @mpharaoh
    @mpharaoh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nope. Unsubbed

    • @SmokingDadBBQ
      @SmokingDadBBQ  8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      👋

    • @admranger
      @admranger 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Did you file the appropriate hurt feelings report? You need to file that in triplicate for final adjudication.

    • @mpharaoh
      @mpharaoh 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@admranger Nope, Just Unsubbed. Thanks for following up Sport!