Did blud copy IMO? lol, I know you didn't since it takes time to make a vid and the timeline goes over an another but thats interesting though. Anyway, thanks for the vid, your videos always interest me and give us new ideas. Have a good day and god.
We gotta show this to all the Ace Haters. Personally, I love Ace. He kinda feels like a sub-protagonist. Iconic powers, a meaningful journey, that sorta thing. Great video as always.
In my opinion, we got introduced to Ace too early. Ace would have been way more powerful if he’d have been introduced in Post Timeskip due to haki being a more developed power system.
The live action has an opportunity to showcase more of him and his abilities by giving him a larger role across a season. Similar to what they did with Garp. Hope they do!
Even if you gave ace some top tier shit his fruit is still honestly kinda mid power wise. We see kaido blasting holes in mountains with his flame breathe and yet luffy could tank that shit without even having kings coating first and someone like KINEMON could split it in half. We need to see what logia awakenings do first.
Katakuri would beat Ace without future sight or devil fruit, but yeah you're known for Katakuri slander so your opinion doesn't really matter that much about Katakuri.
@@RestlessGamblrrwell most of kats moves are reaction to the others couldn’t he just block any of the attacks with mochi from awakening if he wanted (I have no idea how mochi reacts to fire) and kats future sight is definitely gonna be better then ace during marine ford
Katakuri can easily control everything around him with his awakening, so yeah he's tanking any fire attack thrown at him like he easily blocked Luffy's red hawk that melted Perospero's candy, mochi mochi fruit weakness was stated to be water not fire otherwise his mochi would've melted like the candy, he also has an attack that uses fire to make his attack stronger. Ace doesn't have future sight it was never stated, what he did is like what happened with Luffy vs Mihawk. The only one is sick here is you with this nonsense agenda you got against Katakuri. Get Ace past Smoker first, oh wait you don't even want to take a canon chapter from the manga that is showing Ace can't handle Smoker with his haki so you already made an excuse for it, funny.@@RestlessGamblrr
Ace was probably YC1 tier before his death. With the ace novel and supplemental stuff, I don't think anyone could argue it. You are lining things up a bit to easily to give him everything, but I think a more interesting take would be having Ace survive the Summit War. While luffy was training Ace would have been made the new captain and probably lead the Whitebeard pirates in a more protracted Payback War, experiencing haki bloom after haki bloom. He would ultimately lose a lot of whitebeard territory but the loss of someone important like Jozu or Vista would make him give up the war. He wouldn't be a yonkou but probably sit around admiral level and his ultimate goal would be getting to the OnePiece before Teach and getting his revenge. Maybe revealing a logia awakening in his final battle.
@@riroufudoKoby is just now becoming somewhat decent. His growth has been incredible but after all that i don’t even see him defeating any of Luffy’s villains in the new world currently. He’s a Doffy victim.
Ace had massive potential but due to plot and the mc being joyboy, it would never work out. Oda did a very good job of giving every characters there flaws. And Ace was he wanted to bigger roger he had that an ambition/haki but it died and that’s what’s ultimately limited his potential and led to his death.
Katakuri is out of Ace's league. The strongest people Ace could beat is probably the weaker Yonko Commanders. Queen and 9 of the 10 Titanic Captains. I'm excluding Kuzan. Also, probably Magellan, since he is equal to Shiryu.
@noodlesrgood1119 Ace doesn't even like to use Armament haki. He's actually the stupidest combatant in all of One Piece. Katakuri is beating every Yonko Commander besides the first mates or 2nd strongest combatant.
I guess it's not surprising because even in his early days before becoming a WBC he beaten a vice admiral and stalemates a stronger warlord than the two Luffy fought that he needed seriously help with, crocodile had him dead to rights twice and moria got jumped by Luffy's whole crew. Ace also fought Yamato even though she's in base and cuffed still has far better feats than majority of Luffy's opps pre timeskip, this was also again before he joined WB. Ace was also offered the position of warlord, he was a super rookie and has potential rivaling Luffy's own potential who is the one to succeed Joyboy.
@@Warlord-dc5un yeah true but ace did go out to sea a lot earlier than luffy and his progress got slowed because of his mentality which are things luffy hasn’t faced at the same scale ace did
@@scheve1994 ace could use all forms of haki he also had future sight plus was able to block a attack form Aokiji who scales to prime garp (however during marine ford he was probably half the strength he is now and was definitely not going all out) and fought healthy old white beard in a mid-high diff fight meaning ace one shots katakuri
I’ve always said this and people never believed me like were looking at the pirate kings son, a man who when he just started had already made quite a huge name for himself such a name that even shanks had recognized him and I’ve always said the bb fight was closer than people make it out ace a few times whilst fighting quite literally his exact counter measure proved he was capable of harming him by just using his df their final clash obviously showed bb was above but ace still pushed bb back a bit give ace all logical things like here and even if he’s not the strongest he’s most definitely gonna be a major top tier
I figured but knowing other ppl thinking it makes me think I'm on the right track. When you're a logia fighting other logias haki is irrelevant and the devil fruit matters more
I think your powrups for Ace would allow him to defeat characters like Baron Tamago. In the grandline he was a top tier(sort of) in the New World he was a fodder
Bonus ability: Ace using the pipe like you said, but channeling his Armament Haki and Devil Fruit powers through it to create a massive fire glaive in honor of Whitebeard
@@RestlessGamblrrOh thank you so much ,I remember once before looking at another vid and didn't see it in the description (maybe I'm wrong there too lol) , so thought I'd ask the gambler directly, love your content 👊
Ace does not have future sight, and im so tired of you ppl getting it confused, ITS JUST NORMAL OBSERVATION HAKI! luffy had that same tpanel when he tried to bazooka a mihawk back at marineford, future sight is a move that you willingly do and only 4 people in the entire verse of one piece are confirmed to have it. katakuri, luffy, kaido, and shanks. thats it.
@@DAEDAEANT no, they are not confirmed to have it. Bigmom deffo had the chance to show it and did not. Garp has had the chance to show it and he has not used it. Whitebeared has never shown an inkling of future sight, and niether has roger. There are only 4 CONFIRMED users of future sight. Everything else y’all are seeing is litterally JUST observation haki.
make a part 2 to this video on how ace could have exceeded his potential by not limiting his will and ambitions by joining whitebeard’s crew..essentially if ace continued being his own captain recruiting more eccentric and strong characters similar to Luffys crew.
Before watching: As much as it pains me, I don't think Ace would've gotten much stronger under Whitebeard. He already didn't improve/utilize his Haki much under him and Whitebeard's goals wouldn't see Ace moving forward much. After watching: Yeah that reads
@@bluntslt8023 Ok? He still did. He literally unlocked Conqueror's Haki at the age of 9 He had more potential than Luffy. Just cuz he's the MC doesn't mean he's got the most potential.
@@10ply44 Ace has a better DF (at least matchup wise). Nonetheless, Katakuri has his awakened, has better coa, has by far better coo, and actually knows he has coc. He also has a better weapon.
@@Shohoku00 awakening isn’t going to do much if the mochi is burnt to a crisp, we actually don’t know that kats armourment is stronger, ace is implied by BB to have future sight(which is reinforced in the boiichi manga) so even if you want to say kats is better ace isn’t far off, we don’t know that ace couldn’t use coc but it doesn’t matter because base coc isn’t a factor in 1v1s unless one is fodder,a spear won’t do much good against a logia with future sight. Kats whole fighting style revolves around his speed and moulding himself around attacks. Even if you want to say kat has the edge in overall power level(which I do) the matchup of fire vs mochi and the fact kat won’t be able to just mould around a huge wall of flame or an island sized sun puts this 1v1 in aces favour
@@10ply44 But we have seen that Ace relies too much on his logia invulnerability. That was what doomed him against BB. If Katakuri does the Mogura attack he did vs Luffy to Ace, he is done for. Also Ace having fs is 100% headcanon, the mf is to hot headed to even make use of it.
Based ace hype=chad+goat youtuber+flamepilled. Its made clear throughout all of marineford and roger himself that ace would have become pirate king and top 1
Ppl keep saying luffy is the next roger but I disagree! It’s Ace!! If you really take time and see how Oda writes his characters. you’ll realize the parallels between generations and while yes there are panel for panel examples between luffy & roger, let’s not forgot Oda said if he ever finished one piece and had the time for a spin off. he’d make a prequel about garp and luffy at 60 looks like garp!! Another strong and very basic point is that Oda Is Japanese and believes heavily in the family dynamic. Ace is Literally rogers son, he alone will be his only parallel in the next generation. It’s sad ace had to be the sacrifice for luffy’s dream, but this vid (great btw!) can only ever scratch the potential of his character. To put it in better terms, ace was a young star next to a large black void… or should I say hole….and was doomed to be sucked into it. I hope Oda does Justice for ace, and while I hate the one piece shtick where characters don’t die… with brook’s df and the seraphim’s…. Who knows how mad Oda will go cuz rn he’s in the deep end and even the top theorists can’t tell what will happen in the next chapter
Honestly I think you could’ve gone way further with some of your points. Logia awakening: we don’t have concrete evident but I’m of the camp that logia awakening embues will into elements (creating autonomous creatures). Ace had his own variant in Onibi(demon fire) but could only use it as a final attack. More experience could led to better control and constructs like Enel. Weapon: I could see Ace picking up a naginata, (stick his dagger on a pipe and boom😂), if live long enough to learn more about Roger and accept him, I could see him picking up a sword🤷🏾♂️. Martial arts: maybe he could’ve picked up some martial arts through his travels like rokushiki or haoshoken
Even if Whitebeards main attack is his devil fruit being able to somewhat overpower Whitebeard shows Low or high levels of relativity. That would put him IMO YC1. the best person he can be is arguably King. I think Luffy officially surpassed Ace when he first got ACOC.
Wouldnt logia fruits awakening be a paramecia at the same time? Think about it, for example Enel IS lightning but if he awakens he can control the electricity around him and the weather but i thinks thats for dragons devil fruit
Was under the weather during this but what yall think???!!?
Splendid video
You too man? Same here, feels like colds are getting haki bloom these days, get well soon man
"He Cooked" Type Vid
Did blud copy IMO? lol, I know you didn't since it takes time to make a vid and the timeline goes over an another but thats interesting though. Anyway, thanks for the vid, your videos always interest me and give us new ideas. Have a good day and god.
Are you going to do more what ifs. This was pretty cool
0 days without Katakuri being mentioned
Best record: 0 days
We gotta show this to all the Ace Haters.
Personally, I love Ace. He kinda feels like a sub-protagonist. Iconic powers, a meaningful journey, that sorta thing.
Great video as always.
That's what I think of Ace, he is the Shadow protagonist. Oda had to kill Ace so that Luffy could shine.
I think Ace is a cool character, but not that strong
In my opinion, we got introduced to Ace too early. Ace would have been way more powerful if he’d have been introduced in Post Timeskip due to haki being a more developed power system.
Yeah Oda said this about crocodile and the 2 were both introduced fairly closely together so I assume we could say these together.
The live action has an opportunity to showcase more of him and his abilities by giving him a larger role across a season. Similar to what they did with Garp. Hope they do!
got ace looking like grimmjow in the first few seconds 😭 i do NOT remember Tite Kubo doin allat
“Ace is a character known for the big gaping hole in his chest”
Let’s lock in fellas
Even if you gave ace some top tier shit his fruit is still honestly kinda mid power wise. We see kaido blasting holes in mountains with his flame breathe and yet luffy could tank that shit without even having kings coating first and someone like KINEMON could split it in half. We need to see what logia awakenings do first.
Well kinemon used a move specifically tailored to cut flames tbh
That was a non serious kaido if he went full power drunk mode with that bolo breath he would straight up killed luffy at that moment.
@@oliwiernowakowski1613 coating his entire body in flame breathe couldn't even kill Luffy.
Luffy is kind of immune to fire and Kinemon has a specific technique specifically to cut flames not really fair comparisons tbh
@@GiRR007 ...Luffy was using Advanced Conqueror's, if you don't believe me go rewatch the scene, especially in the anime it's laid on very thick
Great video dude!
Nah blud made a video on Ace and had to sneak in Katakuri slander 😭😭😭😭
Bro cannot take a break
Deserved tbh
nahh on twitter i said kat>ace, but when i read the novels i was like WTFFFFF
@@RestlessGamblrr Ace was on demon time in the novel
@@brysonsimms3487 Novels basically dlc for Ace
Katakuri would beat Ace without future sight or devil fruit, but yeah you're known for Katakuri slander so your opinion doesn't really matter that much about Katakuri.
lmaoooo you think katakuri is tanking an island level fire? also ace has future sight himself, yall niggas sick man!
@@RestlessGamblrrwell most of kats moves are reaction to the others couldn’t he just block any of the attacks with mochi from awakening if he wanted (I have no idea how mochi reacts to fire) and kats future sight is definitely gonna be better then ace during marine ford
@@noot4041 mochi gets extremely soft when exposed to heat. Very bad matchup for Kay.
@@noot4041it’s a terrible matchup for katakuri cuz the mochi would just start slipping off him
Katakuri can easily control everything around him with his awakening, so yeah he's tanking any fire attack thrown at him like he easily blocked Luffy's red hawk that melted Perospero's candy, mochi mochi fruit weakness was stated to be water not fire otherwise his mochi would've melted like the candy, he also has an attack that uses fire to make his attack stronger. Ace doesn't have future sight it was never stated, what he did is like what happened with Luffy vs Mihawk. The only one is sick here is you with this nonsense agenda you got against Katakuri. Get Ace past Smoker first, oh wait you don't even want to take a canon chapter from the manga that is showing Ace can't handle Smoker with his haki so you already made an excuse for it, funny.@@RestlessGamblrr
Bro brought up kat the second he got a chance 😂😂😂 great vid restless 🙏🏽
Ace rly thought he awakened his devil fruit in hell
W vid dad
Ace was probably YC1 tier before his death. With the ace novel and supplemental stuff, I don't think anyone could argue it.
You are lining things up a bit to easily to give him everything, but I think a more interesting take would be having Ace survive the Summit War.
While luffy was training Ace would have been made the new captain and probably lead the Whitebeard pirates in a more protracted Payback War, experiencing haki bloom after haki bloom. He would ultimately lose a lot of whitebeard territory but the loss of someone important like Jozu or Vista would make him give up the war. He wouldn't be a yonkou but probably sit around admiral level and his ultimate goal would be getting to the OnePiece before Teach and getting his revenge. Maybe revealing a logia awakening in his final battle.
'i guess we would never know" Akainu
Fire vid
5:06 Restless Gambler just casually sliding in the Katakuri disrespect, you love to see it.
He's spittin
Ace’s Potential is being Top 2 with Luffy🔥🔥🔥
Don’t even watch it but I know it will be another amazing video
You forgot my boi koby
@@riroufudo Top 5
@@mustafaozdemiroglu5853 we'll see but if he aint at least strongdr than zoro i'm sending a mild mannered e mail to oda
@hxgon he better be with helmeppo and the other fellas, the straw hats will need opponents to fight once luffy necimes king of the pirates
@@riroufudoKoby is just now becoming somewhat decent. His growth has been incredible but after all that i don’t even see him defeating any of Luffy’s villains in the new world currently.
He’s a Doffy victim.
S/o restless gambler man bro be yapping on Twitter but makes great videos
Ace had massive potential but due to plot and the mc being joyboy, it would never work out. Oda did a very good job of giving every characters there flaws. And Ace was he wanted to bigger roger he had that an ambition/haki but it died and that’s what’s ultimately limited his potential and led to his death.
The frickin Best to ever do it
That novel art is hard
The whole video I'm hearing the background music like, "feels like the life I needs a lil distantttt"
lmao
Katakuri is out of Ace's league. The strongest people Ace could beat is probably the weaker Yonko Commanders. Queen and 9 of the 10 Titanic Captains. I'm excluding Kuzan. Also, probably Magellan, since he is equal to Shiryu.
Katakuri way too weak fa sho, I agree
@noodlesrgood1119 Ace doesn't even like to use Armament haki. He's actually the stupidest combatant in all of One Piece.
Katakuri is beating every Yonko Commander besides the first mates or 2nd strongest combatant.
With Rogers blood in his veins, Ace could’ve been one of the Emperors Luffy had to face if he hadn’t crippled his growth by becoming a Yonko captain.
yeah truly, like i love the marineford arc but the ace we see in the backstory is so much different than the one we see in marineford
Ok bro this needs to stop now, your agenda against Katakuri is becoming disgusting at this point, I will need to take drastic measures...
No cap tho 😭😭
I totally agree with you ngl
STAND PROUD YOU CAN COOK
Basically luffy only caught up to ace during wano
I guess it's not surprising because even in his early days before becoming a WBC he beaten a vice admiral and stalemates a stronger warlord than the two Luffy fought that he needed seriously help with, crocodile had him dead to rights twice and moria got jumped by Luffy's whole crew.
Ace also fought Yamato even though she's in base and cuffed still has far better feats than majority of Luffy's opps pre timeskip, this was also again before he joined WB.
Ace was also offered the position of warlord, he was a super rookie and has potential rivaling Luffy's own potential who is the one to succeed Joyboy.
@@Warlord-dc5un yeah true but ace did go out to sea a lot earlier than luffy and his progress got slowed because of his mentality which are things luffy hasn’t faced at the same scale ace did
Being generous, maybe post-WCI Luffy = Ace.
@@scheve1994 ace could use all forms of haki he also had future sight plus was able to block a attack form Aokiji who scales to prime garp (however during marine ford he was probably half the strength he is now and was definitely not going all out) and fought healthy old white beard in a mid-high diff fight meaning ace one shots katakuri
Ngl ace is beating Sanji
What is bro cooking
I think this picture at 0:31 should be your new profile pic.
I’ve always said this and people never believed me like were looking at the pirate kings son, a man who when he just started had already made quite a huge name for himself such a name that even shanks had recognized him and I’ve always said the bb fight was closer than people make it out ace a few times whilst fighting quite literally his exact counter measure proved he was capable of harming him by just using his df their final clash obviously showed bb was above but ace still pushed bb back a bit give ace all logical things like here and even if he’s not the strongest he’s most definitely gonna be a major top tier
CRAZY START
That opening is outta pocket😂😂😂😂
do a sabo potential vid next
Ace doesnt need to be in his full potential to humble katakuri (still recovering from the last video's anti slander)
Is Katakuri holding you hostage to get mentioned in every video? Give us a sign bro
Nah he just living in his head rent free.
I figured but knowing other ppl thinking it makes me think I'm on the right track. When you're a logia fighting other logias haki is irrelevant and the devil fruit matters more
lol, just watched IMO’s version of this
If Ace reached his full potential he wouldn't have become a donut.....
He would have become a Pretzel, Papazuki top one.
Bro HATES Kat 😭🙏🏾
Bro i cant comment on my main for a day but w
I always said Ace is Katakuri level if not stronger even storywise the moment jimbei officially joined the strawhats
Holy fuck I just sat down who starts a conversation like that?
😭😭😭😭
He could've stolen smoker's sea prism stone knive and learned sword techniques including his father's and shanks' kamusari (divine departure)
I wish we got to see more from Ace, seeing how strong he could’ve been would be nice, imagine bro just melting mountains and shit
Just to give Ace some credit, a weaker Blackbeard than the one he fought managed to scar SHANKS.
W vid
Ace ain’t katakuri tier
My observation haki must be on point because I predicted the katakuri slander when i got the notification for the video #futuresight
capcut for editing is wild.
bro LMFAOOOO i only use capcut to combine my clips, i thought i deleted the watermark😭😭😭
@@RestlessGamblrr lol
I think your powrups for Ace would allow him to defeat characters like Baron Tamago.
In the grandline he was a top tier(sort of)
in the New World he was a fodder
Day 1 of asking for a todo video
Bonus ability: Ace using the pipe like you said, but channeling his Armament Haki and Devil Fruit powers through it to create a massive fire glaive in honor of Whitebeard
Broken ronnin👀
oda killed ace to early bro, he has more feats after he died then before he did 😭
All things considered, if novel ace was in the story at the time of the Blackbeard fight, Marineford wouldn’t happen
The novel is canon lol.
@@luftwaffles-16 yes but because it was made after Marineford, ace was a lot stronger in the novel
Hey ,what's the music you usually use bro???
which one(s) in particular do you want to know?
@RestlessGambler the one you always use when asking for people to sub ,basically the intro and outro brother!
@@geo-pi3zoin the description brudda
penthouse shordy instrumental
@@RestlessGamblrrOh thank you so much ,I remember once before looking at another vid and didn't see it in the description (maybe I'm wrong there too lol) , so thought I'd ask the gambler directly, love your content 👊
Great video bro, this explains why Oda killed off Ace, he would have been too strong.
Bro was sick and still made the vid, that’s my dawg fr
I am happy to see one of my favourite characters getting the respect he deserves
“Ace Disappears”
Cinema.
Personally I think ace is more on queen's or Jack's level than katakuri
Ima be honest before I read jjk thought your pfp was some crackhead😭🙏
Ace does not have future sight, and im so tired of you ppl getting it confused, ITS JUST NORMAL OBSERVATION HAKI! luffy had that same tpanel when he tried to bazooka a mihawk back at marineford, future sight is a move that you willingly do and only 4 people in the entire verse of one piece are confirmed to have it. katakuri, luffy, kaido, and shanks. thats it.
Big Mom, Roger, WB, and Garp?
@@DAEDAEANT no, they are not confirmed to have it. Bigmom deffo had the chance to show it and did not. Garp has had the chance to show it and he has not used it. Whitebeared has never shown an inkling of future sight, and niether has roger. There are only 4 CONFIRMED users of future sight. Everything else y’all are seeing is litterally JUST observation haki.
Ace in the hole
drop the background music you used in this vid
put a timestamp
3:55@@RestlessGamblrr
Atleast 2nd division commander
0:30 explain yourself broski
Lord of Donuts
Ace full potential > akainu
Let’s not get too crazy buddy
@@ebkswervo6382your right comparing him to akainu is disrespectful to ace
@@sleepingdanger no way y’all actually believe ace full potential would beat akainu ☠️☠️☠️
@@ebkswervo6382 he will cope
@@ebkswervo6382 Ace full potential could litterally surpass roger. He's rogers son after all. And the newer gen is always stronger than the old gen
He would’ve most likely been around sabos level
make a part 2 to this video on how ace could have exceeded his potential by not limiting his will and ambitions by joining whitebeard’s crew..essentially if ace continued being his own captain recruiting more eccentric and strong characters similar to Luffys crew.
Bro working for someone else or taking irders fron someoelse doesnt make you weaker.
That opening was cataclysmically diabolical
bro cmon u copied the ytuber imo but good vid
Wait Sanji had ifrit the whole pre time skip #Wanjigas
Mihawk would still be able to keep up.
Nobody:
Gambler: *sneaks in katakuri diss outta no where*
what is this wolf you keep putting on the screen bruh 😭😭😭
Fire video gang, but you did NOT need to violate Ace at the start 🤣🤣
COOOK
Do Ace vs Katakuri plss 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Before watching: As much as it pains me, I don't think Ace would've gotten much stronger under Whitebeard. He already didn't improve/utilize his Haki much under him and Whitebeard's goals wouldn't see Ace moving forward much. After watching: Yeah that reads
Idk how I was just convinced that ace could beat katakuri you are a wizard
he can did u not see what he did against a fucking yonko?
He can beat katakuri he could easily burn the mochi if he used more haki 😭😭😭
Ace may have the power but he definitely doesn’t have the skills necessary to be Katakuri🤷🏾♂️
Completely agree.
Ace by far had more potential than anyone in the series, Jumpbeard and Condom Boy included
Who tf is condom boy 🙏😂
@@Hoggy.alightG5 Luffy. The white color scheme and free flowing design led some to call him cum boy and it seems condom boy is an alternate name.
@@Hoggy.alight condom boy is luffy🤣🤣🤣
Nah don't think ace had more potential than Luffy. He ain't the main character Luffy is
@@bluntslt8023 Ok? He still did.
He literally unlocked Conqueror's Haki at the age of 9
He had more potential than Luffy.
Just cuz he's the MC doesn't mean he's got the most potential.
You didnt have to start the vid like that bro 😭 💀
The Ace we saw in the series could not beat Katakuri, stop that. His potencial was top tier though, I agree on that
Ace has feats against admirals while being extremely weakened and could clash with whitebeards quakes. Kat has shown nothing close to that yet
@@10ply44 Ace has a better DF (at least matchup wise). Nonetheless, Katakuri has his awakened, has better coa, has by far better coo, and actually knows he has coc. He also has a better weapon.
@@Shohoku00 awakening isn’t going to do much if the mochi is burnt to a crisp, we actually don’t know that kats armourment is stronger, ace is implied by BB to have future sight(which is reinforced in the boiichi manga) so even if you want to say kats is better ace isn’t far off, we don’t know that ace couldn’t use coc but it doesn’t matter because base coc isn’t a factor in 1v1s unless one is fodder,a spear won’t do much good against a logia with future sight.
Kats whole fighting style revolves around his speed and moulding himself around attacks. Even if you want to say kat has the edge in overall power level(which I do) the matchup of fire vs mochi and the fact kat won’t be able to just mould around a huge wall of flame or an island sized sun puts this 1v1 in aces favour
@@10ply44 But we have seen that Ace relies too much on his logia invulnerability. That was what doomed him against BB. If Katakuri does the Mogura attack he did vs Luffy to Ace, he is done for. Also Ace having fs is 100% headcanon, the mf is to hot headed to even make use of it.
Ace has better feats against actual top tiers meanwhile katakuri doesn't go read his light novel and u will see Ace stomps katakuri
Based ace hype=chad+goat youtuber+flamepilled.
Its made clear throughout all of marineford and roger himself that ace would have become pirate king and top 1
bro making a video about me😭😭(I’m Ace)
Still get clapped by the magma brat
Ppl keep saying luffy is the next roger but I disagree! It’s Ace!!
If you really take time and see how Oda writes his characters. you’ll realize the parallels between generations and while yes there are panel for panel examples between luffy & roger, let’s not forgot Oda said if he ever finished one piece and had the time for a spin off. he’d make a prequel about garp and luffy at 60 looks like garp!!
Another strong and very basic point is that Oda Is Japanese and believes heavily in the family dynamic. Ace is Literally rogers son, he alone will be his only parallel in the next generation.
It’s sad ace had to be the sacrifice for luffy’s dream, but this vid (great btw!) can only ever scratch the potential of his character.
To put it in better terms, ace was a young star next to a large black void… or should I say hole….and was doomed to be sucked into it.
I hope Oda does Justice for ace, and while I hate the one piece shtick where characters don’t die… with brook’s df and the seraphim’s…. Who knows how mad Oda will go cuz rn he’s in the deep end and even the top theorists can’t tell what will happen in the next chapter
Honestly I think you could’ve gone way further with some of your points.
Logia awakening: we don’t have concrete evident but I’m of the camp that logia awakening embues will into elements (creating autonomous creatures). Ace had his own variant in Onibi(demon fire) but could only use it as a final attack. More experience could led to better control and constructs like Enel.
Weapon: I could see Ace picking up a naginata, (stick his dagger on a pipe and boom😂), if live long enough to learn more about Roger and accept him, I could see him picking up a sword🤷🏾♂️.
Martial arts: maybe he could’ve picked up some martial arts through his travels like rokushiki or haoshoken
Idk about weapon
I don’t think it would fit with his fighting style
Even if Whitebeards main attack is his devil fruit being able to somewhat overpower Whitebeard shows Low or high levels of relativity. That would put him IMO YC1. the best person he can be is arguably King. I think Luffy officially surpassed Ace when he first got ACOC.
higher levels of relativity not high levels thats absurd.
Whitebeard was using his DF against Ace in their final fight
start is diabolical
You and IMO managing to post these without hours of eachother is nutty 😭 great minds at work
Wouldnt logia fruits awakening be a paramecia at the same time? Think about it, for example Enel IS lightning but if he awakens he can control the electricity around him and the weather but i thinks thats for dragons devil fruit
The novel cant be cannon-
Ace couldnt have haki in cannon-
especialy against Smoker and BB
I have ace under Sanji , zoro and Yamato. He is right under them for me
Let him cook the ace slader is crazy