@@Irrszz Simply because I've seen a profile picture like that and defending Katakuri on the block, on reddit, really anytime I see Katakuri defense and of course on this channel.
@@yubear420my bad, I misunderstood your comment, I thought you said "it's not canon" because it wasn't in the story. I agree kat getting Molly whoopped by g5 is something ods would do
@KoldPhaze Wrong, it was a way to give luffy advance observation haki, luffy won coz he obtained future haki and had a better defence thank Katakuri who is not used to being attacked, why we ignore luffy endurance coz I'm reading manga for 12 years I know the best thing luffy has is his endurance
Maybe if Snake man managed to bridge the gap and hit him like 100+ times it would've been less pathetic for kat😂 Would've really showed snakeman's attack speed too.
People need to realize that Luffy vs katakuri was about ideals and whoever had the strongest will wins. Katakuri wanted to loose because of the burden of being the perfect brother was to much. Luffy didn’t have that burden. It’s heavily implied that katakuri even wanted Luffy to beat big mom. It is a fight about respect why else would katakuri stab himself.
That was for the end, the whole fight was about will power so both combatants gave it there all till the end where katakuri lost motivation in even fighting anymore. Him losing the will to fight has nothing to do with katakuri beating luffy the whole fight and luffy beating him till the end It’s like with rock lee he passed out fighting garra but his will power kept him standing even tho physically he lost, that’s the same with katakuri just this time he lost physically and mentally to Luffy completely
@@anime_world6684 your right and because he lost motivation to fight I feel the fight isn’t completely accurate on his strength because he could of fought longer and maybe even harder. Plus he stabbed himself to make the fight more fair
Katakuri lost the battle of will in regards to his belief, he didn't lose the fight of strength, that was the WHOLE POINT of this fight ... So yes, that chart is ass.
😂😂do you think one piece can’t have both a powerscaling and a thematic meaning to a fight? luffy literally says his goal is to surpass katakuri, did this nigga mean his will?
@@RestlessGamblrr Then why he didn't attack Katakuri when they were face to face (after snake-man)? He didn't have strenght anymore, Katakuri was waiting for Luffy to be up and then hear his will, do you really think if he didn't see Luffy in that high regard, he wouldn't attack him?
@@RestlessGamblrr I’m not saying you would I just love the idea hearing people saying that he was always this powerful as if Oda didn’t just make him more powerful
true cultured take. Narrative > Depiction in this fight. Luffy would've died if he couldn't finish eating all the Mochi in round 1 of the fight. Whats Tankman doing to Katakuri?@@Vivacy_Editzz
Katakuri stab himself to be closer to luffy to be even he saw it as unfair that flampe helped kat to hit luffy. When a character stab himself against his opponent that's handicap lmao kat would have done better if he didn't get stabbed. Kat didn't get knocked out he let luffy win because he couldn't break his spirit it was a tie. We literally see him eyes open talking to brulee. The powercliff isn't that much until luffy learned ryou,conquers.
the point is that him stabbing himself and still losing means his endurance is both ass and worse than luffy’s, because luffy took that same attack and many more before+after that, and still won😂 also after the fight kat is out of it, there was no shot kat could continue fighting
@@RestlessGamblrr when you stab yourself by making the same place that luffy took of course he would lose by taking a hit like that. Both kat and luffy took 8hrs so kat endurance isn't ass even with the hit he kept it pushing to where luffy had to use Gear 4 snakeman for speed to get kat. We see his eyes it's not like he was done and out he literally got up and said to luffy are you going to come again he said yes and he let himself drop. It's a tie
@@big3fanboy19you’re saying, katakuri with a stab that’s not named, did more damage than thrusting mochi to get his health to luffy’s level? are you deadass rn?
@@ebkswervo6382 luffy is the mc kat taking the stab oda shows that kat is making it more fair for luffy to win. Kat taking the stab pushing luffy go into snakeman by the way not stopping him letting him do it because he's sees luffy as a equal. Easy to assume that without the stab wound kat would have won not a tie.
13 minuets of yapping session, there is so much cope in this video. 10:17 Luffy didn't manage to get a hit because he came out of the rubble lol, he managed that because he started using future sight and he was using it for the last 2 hours of the fight that were off screen 11:04 and here the fact that you counted black mamba that is moving ftl as 4 hits is hilarious you really trying your best to get out of this for being callled out a fraud for using this fraudlent chart 11:22 this last isn't just one more attack it was Luffy's finisher landing at his open wound "Katakuri AP is bad" while seeing him with one hit from his spear opening Luffy's stomach who's a mythical zoan lol "Katakuri endurance is bad" while we see him fighting for hours with an open stomach facing a mythical zoan when he's just a human At the end Katakuri folds fodderji but you can keep coping and dreaming about your boy fraudji beating him lol.
… did you even read the fight? he couldn’t hit katakuri before the rubble and couldn’t hit him after the rubble, he only hits him again when he gets into snakeman snakeman is a hand moving in multiple directions, they hit you then go away, what he did there was multiply his hands like kong organ but then kat started dodging king cobra didn’t hit his open wound☠️☠️☠️
I read this fight all the time, That rubble attack was right after Katakuri stabbed himself and Luffy started to see the future, after that the fight lasted more than 2 hours both of them were able to hit each other "He only hits him again when he gets into snakeman" because the fight was off screen for 2 hours lol? Snake man attack never go away they keep bouncing back and if you think Katakuri gurading his body with only 2 hands from all these black mamba attacks then you're delusional, but yeah you already delusional form what i heard Yes it did lol. @@RestlessGamblrr
I am not a big katakuri fan. But I must say, that inflicting damage oneself in fantasy is always much easier than than inflicting damage on others. As somehow the defense of a person lowers if they allow being hit. This can be seen in anime and fantasy very commonly. And, a stronger attack does not equal more damage. If you pierce through the target, it does not matter if you can use a stronger piercing attack than that. If you already penetrated them, then you inflicted the most amount of damage you could deal. You cannot penetrate something even more. But yeah, katakuri was visibly more influenced by the wound he inflicted on himself than luffy was from the "same" wound.
I’ll answer your question -for those who wanna talk abt Ulti just a reminder she’s weaker than Jack who got bitched by Ashura Doji, so don’t be mentioning her unless you wanna prove you can’t read and are high balling shit -All 3 types of haki, including advanced haki when your sweet prince Sanji has neither advanced haki and needed some asspull awakening to be considered a threat -Was shown to be able to move as fast as Sanji in film red (film red showings are canon cope harder) -considered to be the strongest out of the big mom pirates and we’ve seen characters part of the crew like Perospero manage in whole cake island (beating both sulong carrot and Wanda and took cat viper in sulong form to beat Perospero) so we can already chain scale him a lot higher than you wanna downplay him -performed well against WC Luffy despite how bad you wanna say he didn’t, first off Luffy has always had high endurance so that’s like saying Sanji is weak for not having Kaido level haki. He still beat him the first round but you never wanna mention that just “when the fight starts my pants disappear and I edge to Sanji” Also barely anyone holds him in high regard most people wanna downplay him so be fr
Having advanced Haki and basic conquerors cool, every single scabbard can use a form of advanced Haki and I’ve never seen anyone use this as an argument to say they solo the verse. And basic conquerors is literally useless in a fight, what you gonna do, knock out some dudes on the background?
Why t f you hate katakuri The thing with katakuri is he is not durable like ulti or luffy or sanji or other zoans or he has endurece like zoro Thing with him is very hard to land even single hit on him with out having crazy speed or future side or both The fact that snake man luffy with future side Abel land only 13 hit on kata prove that most of character of Wano not even landing hit on him So inuf with katakuri slander
See id be inclined to agree...... If Wano didn't amp everyone's speed by a ton. Everyone in Wano got crazy speed amps. A WCI level G4 Luffy got speedblitzed by Kaido and then was fighting Kaido in base later on. No G2, no G4... base. Katakuri's weakness is characters who are far faster than he is, anyone whos far faster can hand Katakuri's own ass to him. If they're not faster Katakuri's gonna body them (even if it'll take 12 hours). Problem is that speed got power cliffed as well in Wano.
@@xdrago1051 that fucking Kaido who t f are saying katakuri doing anything to Kaido and ya most of people aren't Doing shit to him only people in wano are beating him are King,zoro,kid and law,yamano,sanji, Meby just meby queen can beat him to But other than them no one beating kata I hate when people say ulti, Marco Jack,momo, some mamber of akaza nine can beat kata Sorry to break at yo but if you think that this guy can beat kata the you are just stupid
@@RestlessGamblrr so stop slander him when And put little respect on him Atleast what he deserves Because i don't think ulti is even landing single hit on him
I dont think you're supposed to count the individual barage panels. Their just supposed to be spamming an attack. And Katakuri hurting himself isnt an anti feat. Shanks got his arm eaten by a seaking when he let it happen. Luffy and zoro can be hurt by the fodder fodder model bellamy pirates when they let them. Katakuri intentionally stabbing himself could just be in line with stronger characters letting themselves get hurt. As shown when strong characters allow themselves to be hurt they can take damage from seemingly weak attacks. Shanks will fight blackbeard in the future and likely take some blows. Doesn't make seaking > blackbeard. This is also shown when blackbeard is hurt by pre timeskip luffy.
@@yngggggF you don't see what I'm saying it's not the same amount of damage since he let it happen. In the story of One piece when characters let themselves be hit, they take way more damage from way weaker attacks which is my entire point here. Like shanks getting his arm eaten by a seaking, he will more than likely have a big fight and take heavy damage from stronger characters in the future like blackbeard. This does not mean that seaking > blackbeard. When luffy who is a rubberman let himself get hit by the literal fodder belamy pirates he took damage. This same luffy could take hits from arlong and crocodile. So when strong characters let themselves be hit their durability is ignored.
I think the main part of katakuri’s loss was his mental state and luffy’s will being stronger (and a healthy dose of plot armor). Not saying luffy would have lost without it but it’s important to consider
I think a discussion about the number of hits doesn’t really illustrate the capabilities of the fighters. After all, luffy’s stamina and health regen is insane. In onigashima he was knocked out twice before literally dying. He then came back to life and clapped kaido’s cheeks. Luffy is just built different, his whole deal is that he bounces back from every fight like a rubber band.
I feel like katakuri downplay has been overplayed a little bit to much but I completely agree that katakuri's strength gets outclassed completely in wano
I think it’s also important to remember that the beast pirates do have Zoan buffs on their defense and attack, which Katakuri does not have. That could help to explain why they were tougher opponents to deal with. Especially when the Tobi Roppo have ancient zoans. Katakuri has a fairly basic DF in comparison. Considering all that, I don’t think it’s unfair to assume that he probably relied on his haki way too much prior to this battle with Luffy. Which made him weak to someone like Luffy, who can use haki on his rubber body making him kind of a tank. And Kat’s fruit doesn’t work the same as Luffy’s, his awakening makes it appear as though it does, but he has to intentionally turn his body into mochi. Whereas Luffy is a rubber man. All in all, Katakuri is pretty much nothing without his haki and this fight really showcased that DF matchups definitely matter. Especially at this level of combat, where the combatants haki levels are relatively in the same ball park. Kat’s was better, but Luffy had the better DF also.
Thanks for porving that Katakuri is stronger than - Oden who lost to one hit from young Kaido - Zoro who was knocked out after one hit from Killer - Sanji who almost died from nosebleed ( Katakuri was bleeding from his stomach unfazed ) - Akainu who lost to 2 hits from dying old man - Kizaru who just got one shot - King who lost to 3 hits - Garp who lost to few hits I always knew that Katakuri is the goat but thanks for proving it more to me
Luffy never beat Katakuri and Katakuri wasn’t trying to beat or kill Luffy either that’s the whole point of Katakuri stopping to use his deadly spear attacks, do you think he just randomly stopped using his mole? He respected Luffy and liked his character. The end of the fight Luffy was still weaker in terms of armament, obs, AP, DC, awakening, experience. Katakuri at his full power would’ve killed Luffy so many times.
when Katakuri attacked himself with mole he was purposefully damaging himself so he wasn't guarding with haki, so you can't use that to say his defense is bad. almost all people when not using haki to defend aren't very durable unless thay have a devil fruit that boosts durability or their naturally a monster like Kaido or Big Mom
Bro it's strange to me that you never acknowledge the fact that Katakuri didn't actually lose. His body was fucking standing and ready to keep beating the fuck out of a completely weakened Luffy, but Kat chose to let him go when Luffy showed his absolute will power. Even if Luffy's will may have been greater in that moment it doesn't mean that Kat was weaker at all, if Kat wasn't a genuinely good guy and didn't respect Luffy, he would have crushed Luffy at the end with his remaining energy. Or on the flip side, if the fight was the exact same but Luffy was like evil or some shi and said that he would kill Big Mom and all his siblings, Kat would have MURDERED Luffy.
When katakuri lost the will to fight and fell he fricken passed out cause he physically can’t fight no more use your head, and it wasn’t like that with luffy when sanji and his siblings saved him from the big mom pirates waiting to kill luffy after the mirror world
The Black Mamba thing is likely another case of the Anime being stronger than the Manga however it doesn't mean Fradakuri Anime matters as that means he just gets a power boost to still be irrelevant later and now people who are stronger in the Anime slightly likely can just beat him up if they get enough screen time to get a new technique or fight.
Kat didn't actually lose, he just realized he couldn't break Luffy's will and that Luffy's growth would eventually lead to him surpassing him(Kat) with haki blooms if the fight continued (haki blooms only happen when fighting someone stronger and are the best way to strengthen haki) Sure Kat's endurance is kinda bad, but he was standing and could have fought much more than Luffy since Luffy would be hakiless for 10 minutes
I like how some people will bring up King's total attacks on him, and say its less than Katakuri. But King got cut by haki up swords. I'm sure I'd rather deal with 13 punches/kicks than get cut 4 times.
Katakuri can see into the future, so he doesnt NEED to take any hits, he can dodge or redirect, hence his inability to take many hits, Luffy has been getting his shit kicked in up and down the new world, so OF COURSE he can take a punch. a metric-shit-ton of people have said it but this was an endurance fight, and you build a lot of endurance/durability when you're getting hit by trucks on the daily.
we're not denying that katakuri is a strong fighter, we're saying that current characters in this level would all easily violate katakuri as he was in WCI, and based on some cover pages such as his fight with Oven, he has not improved. Basically hes like jogo, pretty strong but exists in a world full of gojos and sukunas.
So Don Kreig level ap can match everything Luffy threw before g4? And can it defeat Doffy? Perospero who's leagues weaker than Kat could have beaten neko (who needed sulong form to win) and Inu could've lost to jack, so without sulong forms, perospero is on Jack's level Then smoothie who's stronger than him before Kat And in all your debates you use WCI Kat instead of current Kat
The coping in the comments is crazy, y’all some meatriders 😂😂 Ever since Doffy y’all been calling Luffy’s wins plot armor, jeez it’s almost like he’s the main character 💀🤡
Look at the "damage" Katakuri only took damage from his own attacks His head smashing the ground made him bleed His stomach getting stabbed made his bleed and bleed from the mouth Luffy literally only scratched him And katakuri's "blood" was a drop Coming off his face The final hit that katakuri knew was coming for his stomach (the place that has a hole it) Yet choose to take it Instead of opening a hole and smashing luffy Lastly realize luffy is a mythical god Zoan Even suppressed luffy has at least ancient zoan Lvl's of vitality/stamina regen (wich i remind you is fucking busted page one tanked a conquers coated fist from bigmom) And a godlike defensive body He has 99% resistance to blunt attacks even when its covered in armament Luffy got buffs that we didn't know about Katakuri fought 11 and a half hours 4 hours with awakening And he is just him No mc buff no mythical god zoan buff that carried him It was just katakuri Luffy got out alive for 2 reasons his Mythical God Zoan Fruit and half way through katakuri actually started liking him If you noticed katakuri only used his different type of armament 4 times "Power" and "edged" armament Why because he started to like luffy and didn't keep using all he had If katakuri is revealed to have conquers coating it would not surprise me He is the new age wb And is is the only enemy he has never defeated This is the new roger and Wb And it would make sense katakuri never used conquers coating against luffy Because 100% of future sight was more than enough to deal with luffy As we see luffy could not even stay awake yet is buffed with passive zoan buffs And i just love that 11 and a half hours of katakuri fighting is just ignored He isn't a zoan He doesn't have passive vitality and stamina and defensive buffs Yet he tanked hits he didn't need to like king cobra He used awakening for 4 hours Awakening takes a massive amount of stamina Wtf did king do? what did queen do? Fought for 15 minutes total in wano Get tired and got beat Kings flame was tied to his stamina Queen relied on tech to not use stamina Its clear to me katakuri would take down both king and queen His control over the battlefield and his future sight just dominates Flight? Floating donuts that appear behind you Invisibility? Advanced observation haki If you looked up the definition of "power" and "edged" You can get a hint of what makes it a different kind of armament katakuri had and its interesting Aramament haki is a Defensive function first If its a strong enough shield it can be used to attack "Power mochi" implies its turning to or adding a offensive layer For more power maybe its stacking 2 shield on top of armament "Edged mochi" Implies its turned from defensive to offence and it can pierce other armament (shields) This is massive and could be useful If this is accurate and oda goes this route its gonna be interesting Because there is only 1 left for luffy to face and grow his haki The god king Shanks I believe shanks will have everything Advanced forms of observation conquers and armament And he will showcase different type's of armament
Katakuri did lose to plot armor tbh. But what we expect? Luffy is main character. 2:40 also i mean by now katakuri is way stronger. We can keeping scaling an arc katakuri that happened a decade ago lol. Katakuri was never in a real fight, thats why his back never hit the ground. Of course hes not durable at all. He was never hit enough. With his fruit & his observation haki. Ppl can't really hit him. +plus luffy is rubber 50% of the damage is cut in half. U remember luffy when he got smacked by Blackbeard he almost died without that rubber body lol.
@hxgon he struggled with his opponent much more than sanji also youve got to understand how ablilities react as if zoro cant hit sanji enough times sanji is cooking zoro and i cant see zoro landing or blocking enough hits in time to stop sanji
@hxgon he was reacting not doing well he was getting cooked and we know that sanjis speed is beyond kings by a pretty large margine as sanji has one of if not the greatest speed feat in one peice being able to travel all the way across an island in less than a second he moved so fast he didnt just blitz he went invisible and if queen couldnt see sanji i dont think zoros obv is that much better and it would take more than one hit from zoro because A sanjis durability is arguably better than flame on kings let alone sanjis top teir endurance the speed gap between sanji and zoro is much bigger than the gap between luffy and kaido we also know that because sanji doesnt rely on conq hes not completely vonurable after landing an attack and zoros speed is only comparable to flames on king not off and sanji has shown a crazy amount of attack potency against s shark and he also proved to struggle less against seraphim than zoro which proves how much speed matters
@hxgon Fighting a stronger opponent doesn't automatically mean you win a vs battle. That's a super black and white way to look at things. Things like matchups and which categories are won over others matter far more especially when you're talking about 2 extremely relative characters like Sanji/Zoro. Sanji vs Zoro is actually a pretty interesting fight that should have tons of videos about it and its nuances. Problem is that everybody in the OP community just looks at Zoro defeating King whos stronger than Queen and says "well hes stronger so he wins". Refusing to even note how Zoro's fight was an extreme diff fight with Zoro nearly dying at many moments while Sanji's fight was like a mid diff at best due to Sanji's mental problems and a low diff once he got past his mental troubles. Saying "Zoros stronger, he defeated King so he wins." is a very boring answer that just serves to make all the Zoro fans happy as going against the norm is discouraged. For example one example of nuance is how Zoro struggles with flying opponents, we saw that vs King and if i remember right he stated how King's flight was making things far harder than it should be. Sanji is capable of flight that's not only faster than King's but is also far more agile being able to turn at any millisecond he wants to as we saw when he was comboing Queen. When he started his combo Queen tried to strike back, Sanji instantly dashes in another direction and dashes back at Queen and kicks him in the shoulder knocking Queen into the wall disorienting him and continuing his combo. This mixed with Sanji's better observation Haki would make him significantly harder to tag in comparison to King. Another thing to consider is the durability of Zoro and how he'd be realistically dealing with Sanji's AP. And this is the issue with looking at this fight in black & white. I always see people say Zoro oneshots Sanji yet never consider how much Sanji would be doing to Zoro since Zoro's durability isn't that good. Everyone says Zoro oneshots Sanji yet Zoro openly admitted to being capable of being oneshot by King's Jackpot explosion. King's Jackpot explosion was relative to the explosion of Boeuf Burst in size... I'll let you connect the dots. I could go on and on but i think you get the point, its not black and white. Also why would Zoro landing an attack oneshot Sanji? Zoro didn't even oneshot flames off King and im sure we can both agree Sanji is more durable than flames off King.
Katakuri took an L to the future king of a pirates Don't really see how that's a big deal also by losing that fight it set him free allowing him to be himself. Kat is still a top baller
Luffy's endurance (plot armor) is REALLY REALLY good for a skinny short 19 y/o. And don't even say he's made of rubber because that does NOT work against armament haki which is what most katakuri attacks were. Luffy vs Katakury is the worst plot armor win so far. If you disagree you're just wrong and stop glazing Oda he's not a god.
Solid vid all around. Way too many people like to say that Luffy won with plot armor, and/or that Kat lost due to thematic reasons/respect for Luffy, but this is simply because they completely overestimate Kat’s AP and speed feats. And I don’t just mean he’s ass because Luffy took 100+ hits from him and could still fight, I mean Kat has no calcs/scaling aside from his fight with Luffy to say that he ever scaled above him in any regard. “But Kat overpowered Luffy several times” Kat only overwhelmed Luffy in their first gattling clash by having way more limbs to use, nothing suggest that any of his individual hits strike harder than Luffy can. Luffy did get overpowered in the Elephant Gun clash…when he was middair while Kat had a solid foothold on the ground. Kat did cause base Luffy pain with the Block Mochi, but causing pain is not the same as overpowering; Luffy never got pushed back in these clashes, meaning even if he was inferior to Block Mochi’s AP it wasn’t by a significant margin. “But Kat’s so much faster” He only ever blitzed Luffy once, maybe twice if we count the instance where Kat stopped Luffy from punching Brûlée. Aside from that, while a lot of Kat’s attacks were landing, base Luffy was still fast enough to dodge several of Kat’s strikes, even one that was explicitly aided by Kat’s future sight.
But this would also entail that Luffy was taking more hits offscreen as well, so there’s no way that Luffy’s dishing out enough landing attacks to close the numerical difference.
@@michaeldorsey9231 I agree that the ratio was probably similar, meaning Luffy took FARRRR more abuse than people give him credit for. But then again, he did have a mythical zoan god fruit and has been fighting battles where he takes a bajillion damage the entire series. The fact that it went longer only shows both fighters’ endurance is higher than people think.
Gambler, I'm ngl I sometimes don't like a lot of the videos you put out in concept. Simply because I like more real views instead of scaling cause scaling is bullshit. But your style of humor and editing is so God damn funny that I can actually enjoy these types of vids. Never change, never rest
@RestlessGambler you already do those too lmao. I was just stating that you as a personal content creator gives at least me a lot of entertainment value on the ones I don't really like. But to answer the question my favorite have gotta be just theory videos. Some people have good ideas, and some people catch on to things I don't. So I watch a varied amount of people to give myself a better picture of whatevers being talked about (jjk, op, etc)
@RestlessGambler besides the general chapter reviews one of my favorite was the underrated admirals. Lotta people online like to have things misconstrued for whatever reason, so vids that call out general "why the FUCK do people think this when they don't have a reason to" are pretty good.
he has horrible durability and pretty bad endurance but great stamina. kat is at least way above jack and should at least be on the same level as queen via getting perospero on a higher level than cat viper without sulong form. inuarashi without his sulong was doing pretty god against jack and destroyed jack. inuarashi is comparable to cat viper. Perospero is way weaker than cracker and smoothie let alone katakuri. So even though katakuris endurance is kind of ass he is at least on queens level. Loses in a pretty interesting fight against king. He doesnt stop at ulti. Also some people think base luffy surpassed g4 luffy multiple times in wano after training in udon prison because he got one shotted by a thunder bagua in g4 but then he did not on the roof. People are missing the part that the thunder bague on the rooftop only grazed luffy and barely hit him. g4 luffy litterly took the entire thunder bague while flying into it.
Obsessed with the agenda lol the fight was like 12 hours and bro was spamming Awakening and advanced haki. Durability and AP undoubtedly ass compared to Wano but he's a dog just for being able to fight like that for that long
9:14 i dont get this argument or debate? What are you tryin to say? Luffy win without plot? Obviously luffy is more durable & has more endurance. Its a givin. Katakuri is a guy who is never touched. Luffy is a person who had his ass beat down in many fierce battles. N 50% of his damage is taking away by him being rubber. At least the damage is minimized. A lot.
Hit bro with a “Kat was getting hit with straight finishers/named attacks where Luffy is getting tagged majority by normal punches” just for him to pull out the list of attacks taken 😭 That’s when I knew this man *stood on business*
there is a theory (just a theory not supporting katakuri he is still ass ) that he fell on purpose because he used his future sight and saw that if he kills him he will unlock a new form (which is gear 5) and he was so exhausted that he said fuck this shit and fell asleep .
Thank you so much restless the katakuri downplay has been crazy, number 13 became more popular than me beast Now I can finally brag about how katakuri didn’t lose in 13 hits, he lost in 17
These comments are chalk full of Katakuri Apologists defending him getting thrashed by a Luffy with no Advanced Haki mastery. It's actually quite funny how many excuses they make 😂
gotta admit i love kaatakuri. But he has no chance when sanji is blitzing him with ifrit jambe. The disrespect you give him though is still too much. I dont like the concept of analyzing and count blood cough/ hits.
This video explain the main problem in this fight, Whole cake is one of my favorite arcs and I really like Katakuri in conceot and as character, but he lost to a Luffy that literally only landed 13 attacks. An good argument could be that Katakuri has his entire life without taking damage, since Luffy has moments were he almost die since the begin of the series, but it doesn't mean that the result of the fight feels incredibly strange.
Ah yes let’s pretend Katakuri didn’t just willingly throw the fight after Luffy told him his dream, let’s also pretend Katakuri didn’t stab himself, let’s also pretend Out of the 13 attacks most of those were Gear 4 attacks Katakuri haters have reached an all new low smh
Luffy got stabbed by a named attack and the reason he couldn't keep up the fight was cus he couldn't (read manga ) and what makes u think wci g4 is some sort if top tier
@@Jusaguywithbrainbuddy Luffy BARELY got stabbed by that attack, Kat straight up runs it through his body. Plus I’m not acting like WCi Gear 4 is top tier but this guy is acting like Kat doesn’t have any durability
This guy is getting cooked in the comments but he’s still coping, debating people like him is useless. Hold this dislike.
Are you the Katakuri Fanboy I've heard so much about?
@@ZelZ-.-z Why would you hear so much about me?
@@Irrszz Simply because I've seen a profile picture like that and defending Katakuri on the block, on reddit, really anytime I see Katakuri defense and of course on this channel.
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I like mugiwaranogoofy’s theory that Katakuri just looked into the future and saw Luffy’s gear 5th so he just decided to stay on the floor 😂😂
Yeah that’s hilarious
canon unless proven otherwise
@@yubear420 Bro, it's literally head cannon, let people have their fun
@@notthegreenranger3726 you cant disprove it so it is indeed in fact canon
@@yubear420my bad, I misunderstood your comment, I thought you said "it's not canon" because it wasn't in the story. I agree kat getting Molly whoopped by g5 is something ods would do
Luffy winning against Katakuri is probably the most blatant case of main character plot armor in all of one piece
Multiple ten minute breaks
Nah, Luffy just tanks more
@KoldPhaze Wrong, it was a way to give luffy advance observation haki, luffy won coz he obtained future haki and had a better defence thank Katakuri who is not used to being attacked, why we ignore luffy endurance coz I'm reading manga for 12 years I know the best thing luffy has is his endurance
It’s amazing that hardly anyone realizes that Luffy defeated Katakuri in the psychological realm. GLR did a great video on this.
Fair
You seeem to underestimate the AP of g4. Almost all the hits Katakuri took were gear 4th attacks.
G4 attacks aint worth shi now tbh
Yeah, but when we compare these WCI/Pre Udon G4 attacks (didn't do shit to Kaidou) and to Roofpiece Luffy's Red Roc, there's a clear big gap of power.
@@kaidoaboveakainu.622 That was on Kaido though. Kaido is the same guy who can walk off attacks strong enough to one shot admirals.
@@narayasuiryoku1397 true
Okay? Still WHOLE CAKE ISLAND g4. It gets surpassed by luffys base multiple times
Katakuri is a speedster, the fact that he isn’t an endurance king is part of his entire battle persona, that’s the point of him acting like a logia😂
Maybe if Snake man managed to bridge the gap and hit him like 100+ times it would've been less pathetic for kat😂
Would've really showed snakeman's attack speed too.
People need to realize that Luffy vs katakuri was about ideals and whoever had the strongest will wins. Katakuri wanted to loose because of the burden of being the perfect brother was to much. Luffy didn’t have that burden. It’s heavily implied that katakuri even wanted Luffy to beat big mom. It is a fight about respect why else would katakuri stab himself.
This comment here gives me faith in the one piece community
@hxgon ok dude he’s a yonko commander they are portrayed as the 2nd strongest person in the crew. It doesn’t make sense for him to lose to who’s who
@@ogdoom5238 thanks bro
That was for the end, the whole fight was about will power so both combatants gave it there all till the end where katakuri lost motivation in even fighting anymore. Him losing the will to fight has nothing to do with katakuri beating luffy the whole fight and luffy beating him till the end
It’s like with rock lee he passed out fighting garra but his will power kept him standing even tho physically he lost, that’s the same with katakuri just this time he lost physically and mentally to Luffy completely
@@anime_world6684 your right and because he lost motivation to fight I feel the fight isn’t completely accurate on his strength because he could of fought longer and maybe even harder. Plus he stabbed himself to make the fight more fair
Katakuri lost the battle of will in regards to his belief, he didn't lose the fight of strength, that was the WHOLE POINT of this fight ... So yes, that chart is ass.
😂😂do you think one piece can’t have both a powerscaling and a thematic meaning to a fight? luffy literally says his goal is to surpass katakuri, did this nigga mean his will?
@@RestlessGamblrr Then why he didn't attack Katakuri when they were face to face (after snake-man)? He didn't have strenght anymore, Katakuri was waiting for Luffy to be up and then hear his will, do you really think if he didn't see Luffy in that high regard, he wouldn't attack him?
@@legrandelysee98FAX LIKE WHY DID KATAKURI STAB HIMSELF mid fght!
@@crocoboi7936BECAUSE HIS BUM ASS SISTER INTERFERED AND POISONED LUFFY, HAVEN'T Y'ALL SEEN THE FIGHT???
Truth
Nothing in the world would make me more happier than seeing Katakuri return and being portrayed as current G4 equal then seeing the videos afterwards
i wouldn’t care
@@RestlessGamblrr I’m not saying you would I just love the idea hearing people saying that he was always this powerful as if Oda didn’t just make him more powerful
this bum aint special and has no purpose in the story. Cope harder
@hxgon Kizaru one shotted gear 4 luffy wym bruh?
@hxgoni wouldnt write that off bc oda could care less lol.
Fellas who say 13 hits are totally Delusional
Black Mamba alone hit him more than 13
the manga said otherwise
@@Krypt0_C0in ? I talk about manga bro. Black Mamba hit Katakuri more than 13
@@mustafaozdemiroglu5853 hit him 4 times learn to count
I’m not taking any sides but he brought the topic of that attack up in the video at 11:02
@@realo3503Bro Oda can’t draw every impact u know that. 4 Impact yes means 4 hit but In both manga and Anie We saw Luffy hit him countless times
Katakuri ain’t get knock out he gave up
Cuz he couldnt fight no more
even if he gets up, he couldn't fight anymore
@@PhilemonKwakye-sr5xj No, it was because he believed in Luffy.
@@relentlesshunter1394 The whole fight Kat was training Luffy blud
bro saw g5 in future sight and gave up
Katakuri was his ex's favorite character coz THERE IS NO WAY 🤣🤣🤣
Katakuri overrated
He just baiting Katakuri fanboys to protect the drawing they have a parasocial relationship with💀.
@@Jamb3tofacts😂😂
Kat lost to plot and you know it homie.
cope
No he didn't cope about it L L L L
true cultured take. Narrative > Depiction in this fight. Luffy would've died if he couldn't finish eating all the Mochi in round 1 of the fight. Whats Tankman doing to Katakuri?@@Vivacy_Editzz
Katakuri stab himself to be closer to luffy to be even he saw it as unfair that flampe helped kat to hit luffy. When a character stab himself against his opponent that's handicap lmao kat would have done better if he didn't get stabbed. Kat didn't get knocked out he let luffy win because he couldn't break his spirit it was a tie. We literally see him eyes open talking to brulee. The powercliff isn't that much until luffy learned ryou,conquers.
the point is that him stabbing himself and still losing means his endurance is both ass and worse than luffy’s, because luffy took that same attack and many more before+after that, and still won😂
also after the fight kat is out of it, there was no shot kat could continue fighting
@@RestlessGamblrr when you stab yourself by making the same place that luffy took of course he would lose by taking a hit like that. Both kat and luffy took 8hrs so kat endurance isn't ass even with the hit he kept it pushing to where luffy had to use Gear 4 snakeman for speed to get kat. We see his eyes it's not like he was done and out he literally got up and said to luffy are you going to come again he said yes and he let himself drop. It's a tie
@@big3fanboy19this is insane cope bro, luffy took 10x more damages then Kat and kept going Jesus Christ the boy kat is a fraud
@@big3fanboy19you’re saying, katakuri with a stab that’s not named, did more damage than thrusting mochi to get his health to luffy’s level? are you deadass rn?
@@ebkswervo6382 luffy is the mc kat taking the stab oda shows that kat is making it more fair for luffy to win. Kat taking the stab pushing luffy go into snakeman by the way not stopping him letting him do it because he's sees luffy as a equal. Easy to assume that without the stab wound kat would have won not a tie.
13 minuets of yapping session, there is so much cope in this video.
10:17 Luffy didn't manage to get a hit because he came out of the rubble lol, he managed that because he started using future sight and he was using it for the last 2 hours of the fight that were off screen
11:04 and here the fact that you counted black mamba that is moving ftl as 4 hits is hilarious you really trying your best to get out of this for being callled out a fraud for using this fraudlent chart
11:22 this last isn't just one more attack it was Luffy's finisher landing at his open wound
"Katakuri AP is bad" while seeing him with one hit from his spear opening Luffy's stomach who's a mythical zoan lol
"Katakuri endurance is bad" while we see him fighting for hours with an open stomach facing a mythical zoan when he's just a human
At the end Katakuri folds fodderji but you can keep coping and dreaming about your boy fraudji beating him lol.
… did you even read the fight? he couldn’t hit katakuri before the rubble and couldn’t hit him after the rubble, he only hits him again when he gets into snakeman
snakeman is a hand moving in multiple directions, they hit you then go away, what he did there was multiply his hands like kong organ but then kat started dodging
king cobra didn’t hit his open wound☠️☠️☠️
I read this fight all the time, That rubble attack was right after Katakuri stabbed himself and Luffy started to see the future, after that the fight lasted more than 2 hours both of them were able to hit each other "He only hits him again when he gets into snakeman" because the fight was off screen for 2 hours lol?
Snake man attack never go away they keep bouncing back and if you think Katakuri gurading his body with only 2 hands from all these black mamba attacks then you're delusional, but yeah you already delusional form what i heard
Yes it did lol.
@@RestlessGamblrr
@@ekko4397oh shi you been here for 7 months that’s crazy 😂😂 i just seen your other comment
katakuri couldn't even knock out luffy once, his ap is dogshit. His endurance is also dogshit he went down from only 13 hits, he sucks
Fair argument. Except kat wasn’t knocked out by Luffy and instead surrendered the fight. Whoops
i mean sure he wasnt knocked out but he was down and wasnt able to get up from wat we saw
he wasn’t able to continue fighting regardless
@@RestlessGamblrr In the anime they made it seem like Katakuri could keep on fighting but decided to give up
@@RestlessGamblrr LET HIM SLEEEEPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@RestlessGamblrr and how you came to that conclusion? he had some fight in him but chose not to fight luffy
I am not a big katakuri fan. But I must say, that inflicting damage oneself in fantasy is always much easier than than inflicting damage on others.
As somehow the defense of a person lowers if they allow being hit. This can be seen in anime and fantasy very commonly.
And, a stronger attack does not equal more damage. If you pierce through the target, it does not matter if you can use a stronger piercing attack than that. If you already penetrated them, then you inflicted the most amount of damage you could deal. You cannot penetrate something even more.
But yeah, katakuri was visibly more influenced by the wound he inflicted on himself than luffy was from the "same" wound.
I’ll answer your question
-for those who wanna talk abt Ulti just a reminder she’s weaker than Jack who got bitched by Ashura Doji, so don’t be mentioning her unless you wanna prove you can’t read and are high balling shit
-All 3 types of haki, including advanced haki when your sweet prince Sanji has neither advanced haki and needed some asspull awakening to be considered a threat
-Was shown to be able to move as fast as Sanji in film red (film red showings are canon cope harder)
-considered to be the strongest out of the big mom pirates and we’ve seen characters part of the crew like Perospero manage in whole cake island (beating both sulong carrot and Wanda and took cat viper in sulong form to beat Perospero) so we can already chain scale him a lot higher than you wanna downplay him
-performed well against WC Luffy despite how bad you wanna say he didn’t, first off Luffy has always had high endurance so that’s like saying Sanji is weak for not having Kaido level haki. He still beat him the first round but you never wanna mention that just “when the fight starts my pants disappear and I edge to Sanji”
Also barely anyone holds him in high regard most people wanna downplay him so be fr
Katakuri let Luffy (who had the biggest plot armor during this fight) win
Correction, many power scalers downplay him, but regular fans love Katakuri, he’s got an obsessive rabid fan base
Ain’t reading all that cope, but keep daydreaming.
Having advanced Haki and basic conquerors cool, every single scabbard can use a form of advanced Haki and I’ve never seen anyone use this as an argument to say they solo the verse. And basic conquerors is literally useless in a fight, what you gonna do, knock out some dudes on the background?
Katakuri Would You Lose to Ulti?
Katakuri: Nah I'd Win.
Why t f you hate katakuri
The thing with katakuri is he is not durable like ulti or luffy or sanji or other zoans or he has endurece like zoro
Thing with him is very hard to land even single hit on him with out having crazy speed or future side or both
The fact that snake man luffy with future side Abel land only 13 hit on kata prove that most of character of Wano not even landing hit on him
So inuf with katakuri slander
But it wasn't snake man that landed those hits tho.
See id be inclined to agree...... If Wano didn't amp everyone's speed by a ton. Everyone in Wano got crazy speed amps. A WCI level G4 Luffy got speedblitzed by Kaido and then was fighting Kaido in base later on. No G2, no G4... base.
Katakuri's weakness is characters who are far faster than he is, anyone whos far faster can hand Katakuri's own ass to him. If they're not faster Katakuri's gonna body them (even if it'll take 12 hours). Problem is that speed got power cliffed as well in Wano.
@@xdrago1051 that fucking Kaido who t f are saying katakuri doing anything to Kaido and ya most of people aren't Doing shit to him only people in wano are beating him are
King,zoro,kid and law,yamano,sanji,
Meby just meby queen can beat him to
But other than them no one beating kata
I hate when people say ulti, Marco Jack,momo, some mamber of akaza nine can beat kata
Sorry to break at yo but if you think that this guy can beat kata the you are just stupid
i don’t hate kat at all
@@RestlessGamblrr so stop slander him when
And put little respect on him
Atleast what he deserves
Because i don't think ulti is even landing single hit on him
I dont think you're supposed to count the individual barage panels. Their just supposed to be spamming an attack. And Katakuri hurting himself isnt an anti feat. Shanks got his arm eaten by a seaking when he let it happen. Luffy and zoro can be hurt by the fodder fodder model bellamy pirates when they let them. Katakuri intentionally stabbing himself could just be in line with stronger characters letting themselves get hurt. As shown when strong characters allow themselves to be hurt they can take damage from seemingly weak attacks. Shanks will fight blackbeard in the future and likely take some blows. Doesn't make seaking > blackbeard. This is also shown when blackbeard is hurt by pre timeskip luffy.
none of this makes the case better
the point is he stabbed himself after stabbing luffy making him take the same damage as luffy (he didn’t) and still lost
@@yngggggF you don't see what I'm saying it's not the same amount of damage since he let it happen. In the story of One piece when characters let themselves be hit, they take way more damage from way weaker attacks which is my entire point here. Like shanks getting his arm eaten by a seaking, he will more than likely have a big fight and take heavy damage from stronger characters in the future like blackbeard. This does not mean that seaking > blackbeard. When luffy who is a rubberman let himself get hit by the literal fodder belamy pirates he took damage. This same luffy could take hits from arlong and crocodile. So when strong characters let themselves be hit their durability is ignored.
I think the main part of katakuri’s loss was his mental state and luffy’s will being stronger (and a healthy dose of plot armor). Not saying luffy would have lost without it but it’s important to consider
Facts narrative in fights are important in one piece.
11:03 As a not one piece watcher, camon dude, you can't know how many attacks landed by one impact pannel.
Their could have been way more
" babe wake up restless gambler made another katakuri slander vidéo "
Brulee: Would You Win?
Katakuri: Nah, I’d Lose
Ulti to Katakuri: “Stand Proud, You’re Strong”💀
more like rustless because your content always peak
@@Jamb3toBad Meme
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@Restless Gambler bro Loutube keeps hiding my comment so i’ll ask here. Discord Server when😌.
W video been waiting on someone to tackle this topic lol that spread sheet is hilarious
I think a discussion about the number of hits doesn’t really illustrate the capabilities of the fighters. After all, luffy’s stamina and health regen is insane. In onigashima he was knocked out twice before literally dying. He then came back to life and clapped kaido’s cheeks. Luffy is just built different, his whole deal is that he bounces back from every fight like a rubber band.
I feel like katakuri downplay has been overplayed a little bit to much but I completely agree that katakuri's strength gets outclassed completely in wano
I think it’s also important to remember that the beast pirates do have Zoan buffs on their defense and attack, which Katakuri does not have. That could help to explain why they were tougher opponents to deal with. Especially when the Tobi Roppo have ancient zoans. Katakuri has a fairly basic DF in comparison. Considering all that, I don’t think it’s unfair to assume that he probably relied on his haki way too much prior to this battle with Luffy. Which made him weak to someone like Luffy, who can use haki on his rubber body making him kind of a tank. And Kat’s fruit doesn’t work the same as Luffy’s, his awakening makes it appear as though it does, but he has to intentionally turn his body into mochi. Whereas Luffy is a rubber man. All in all, Katakuri is pretty much nothing without his haki and this fight really showcased that DF matchups definitely matter. Especially at this level of combat, where the combatants haki levels are relatively in the same ball park. Kat’s was better, but Luffy had the better DF also.
Thanks for porving that Katakuri is stronger than
- Oden who lost to one hit from young Kaido
- Zoro who was knocked out after one hit from Killer
- Sanji who almost died from nosebleed ( Katakuri was bleeding from his stomach unfazed )
- Akainu who lost to 2 hits from dying old man
- Kizaru who just got one shot
- King who lost to 3 hits
- Garp who lost to few hits
I always knew that Katakuri is the goat but thanks for proving it more to me
you missed the point of the video, thanks for the comment tho🔥🔥
Damn blud is coping 😔
@@ebkswervo6382 I mean he stated the truth
@@legrandelysee98 he didn’t at all lmfao. Anyone with middle school reading can understand the flaw behind his thinking
except all those characters have AP hundreds of times greater than wci luffy who didn't even have ryou yet, Katakuri sucks
Luffy never beat Katakuri and Katakuri wasn’t trying to beat or kill Luffy either that’s the whole point of Katakuri stopping to use his deadly spear attacks, do you think he just randomly stopped using his mole? He respected Luffy and liked his character. The end of the fight Luffy was still weaker in terms of armament, obs, AP, DC, awakening, experience. Katakuri at his full power would’ve killed Luffy so many times.
17 hits😂
Except katakuri blatantly stated that he’s going full out and he considered wci luffy as an equal
Just accepted the reality 😅😂
yap yap, 17 hits
@@shogun1286Equal in terms of what
when Katakuri attacked himself with mole he was purposefully damaging himself so he wasn't guarding with haki, so you can't use that to say his defense is bad. almost all people when not using haki to defend aren't very durable unless thay have a devil fruit that boosts durability or their naturally a monster like Kaido or Big Mom
w vid powercliffed man goes high extreme against sulong cat or dog
Bro it's strange to me that you never acknowledge the fact that Katakuri didn't actually lose. His body was fucking standing and ready to keep beating the fuck out of a completely weakened Luffy, but Kat chose to let him go when Luffy showed his absolute will power. Even if Luffy's will may have been greater in that moment it doesn't mean that Kat was weaker at all, if Kat wasn't a genuinely good guy and didn't respect Luffy, he would have crushed Luffy at the end with his remaining energy.
Or on the flip side, if the fight was the exact same but Luffy was like evil or some shi and said that he would kill Big Mom and all his siblings, Kat would have MURDERED Luffy.
I would like to see this talked about more since it looked like Kata still had some fight in him but fell down anyways
no he definitely lost dont cope
Cope
When katakuri lost the will to fight and fell he fricken passed out cause he physically can’t fight no more use your head, and it wasn’t like that with luffy when sanji and his siblings saved him from the big mom pirates waiting to kill luffy after the mirror world
Katakuri riders are actually delusional
The Black Mamba thing is likely another case of the Anime being stronger than the Manga however it doesn't mean Fradakuri Anime matters as that means he just gets a power boost to still be irrelevant later and now people who are stronger in the Anime slightly likely can just beat him up if they get enough screen time to get a new technique or fight.
Kat didn't actually lose, he just realized he couldn't break Luffy's will and that Luffy's growth would eventually lead to him surpassing him(Kat) with haki blooms if the fight continued (haki blooms only happen when fighting someone stronger and are the best way to strengthen haki)
Sure Kat's endurance is kinda bad, but he was standing and could have fought much more than Luffy since Luffy would be hakiless for 10 minutes
I like how some people will bring up King's total attacks on him, and say its less than Katakuri. But King got cut by haki up swords.
I'm sure I'd rather deal with 13 punches/kicks than get cut 4 times.
waiting for the katakuri pfp guy to comment
me too
the legend has arrived, look at the pinned comment lmao
This is why people say one piece fans cant power scale
😭
YOU'RE BACK!!!
*katakuri existing*
Gambler: And I took that personally!
Do you play opbr?
W video brother, katakuri would get his ass beat by king
Katakuri can see into the future, so he doesnt NEED to take any hits, he can dodge or redirect, hence his inability to take many hits, Luffy has been getting his shit kicked in up and down the new world, so OF COURSE he can take a punch. a metric-shit-ton of people have said it but this was an endurance fight, and you build a lot of endurance/durability when you're getting hit by trucks on the daily.
we're not denying that katakuri is a strong fighter, we're saying that current characters in this level would all easily violate katakuri as he was in WCI, and based on some cover pages such as his fight with Oven, he has not improved.
Basically hes like jogo, pretty strong but exists in a world full of gojos and sukunas.
Stand proud Kat. You're strong.
So Don Kreig level ap can match everything Luffy threw before g4? And can it defeat Doffy?
Perospero who's leagues weaker than Kat could have beaten neko (who needed sulong form to win) and Inu could've lost to jack, so without sulong forms, perospero is on Jack's level
Then smoothie who's stronger than him before Kat
And in all your debates you use WCI Kat instead of current Kat
The coping in the comments is crazy, y’all some meatriders 😂😂 Ever since Doffy y’all been calling Luffy’s wins plot armor, jeez it’s almost like he’s the main character 💀🤡
Look at the "damage"
Katakuri only took damage from his own attacks
His head smashing the ground made him bleed
His stomach getting stabbed made his bleed and bleed from the mouth
Luffy literally only scratched him
And katakuri's "blood" was a drop
Coming off his face
The final hit that katakuri knew was coming for his stomach (the place that has a hole it)
Yet choose to take it
Instead of opening a hole and smashing luffy
Lastly realize luffy is a mythical god Zoan
Even suppressed luffy has at least ancient zoan Lvl's of vitality/stamina regen (wich i remind you is fucking busted page one tanked a conquers coated fist from bigmom)
And a godlike defensive body
He has 99% resistance to blunt attacks even when its covered in armament
Luffy got buffs that we didn't know about
Katakuri fought 11 and a half hours
4 hours with awakening
And he is just him
No mc buff no mythical god zoan buff that carried him
It was just katakuri
Luffy got out alive for 2 reasons his Mythical God Zoan Fruit and half way through katakuri actually started liking him
If you noticed katakuri only used his different type of armament 4 times
"Power" and "edged" armament
Why because he started to like luffy and didn't keep using all he had
If katakuri is revealed to have conquers coating it would not surprise me
He is the new age wb
And is is the only enemy he has never defeated
This is the new roger and Wb
And it would make sense katakuri never used conquers coating against luffy
Because 100% of future sight was more than enough to deal with luffy
As we see luffy could not even stay awake yet is buffed with passive zoan buffs
And i just love that 11 and a half hours of katakuri fighting is just ignored
He isn't a zoan
He doesn't have passive vitality and stamina and defensive buffs
Yet he tanked hits he didn't need to like king cobra
He used awakening for 4 hours
Awakening takes a massive amount of stamina
Wtf did king do? what did queen do?
Fought for 15 minutes total in wano
Get tired and got beat
Kings flame was tied to his stamina
Queen relied on tech to not use stamina
Its clear to me katakuri would take down both king and queen
His control over the battlefield and his future sight just dominates
Flight?
Floating donuts that appear behind you
Invisibility?
Advanced observation haki
If you looked up the definition of "power" and "edged"
You can get a hint of what makes it a different kind of armament katakuri had and its interesting
Aramament haki is a Defensive function first
If its a strong enough shield it can be used to attack
"Power mochi" implies its turning to or adding a offensive layer
For more power maybe its stacking 2 shield on top of armament
"Edged mochi" Implies its turned from defensive to offence and it can pierce other armament (shields)
This is massive and could be useful
If this is accurate and oda goes this route its gonna be interesting
Because there is only 1 left for luffy to face and grow his haki
The god king Shanks
I believe shanks will have everything
Advanced forms of observation conquers and armament
And he will showcase different type's of armament
aint reading allat
the moment you said kat hda advnaced conquerors and new age wb, you ost us all mané.
I can’t understand mfs who write 2 page essays on such a simple debate
Like bro it is NOT that deep 💀
Katakuri > Queen
Trrrible fight. Embodies every flaw the show has. Not to mention Luffy got his butt kicked.
My goat has uploaded once again.
Katakuri CHOSE to give luffy the win
Keep lying to yourself buddy
find Oven's vivre card and the translation for it: it says OVEN is the most durable big mom son
look it up
no way😂😂😂
@@RestlessGamblrri just checked it dose say that
That means Oven can tank gear 4th hits
10:26 the music was so good i couldnt listen properly
Katakuri did lose to plot armor tbh. But what we expect? Luffy is main character.
2:40 also i mean by now katakuri is way stronger. We can keeping scaling an arc katakuri that happened a decade ago lol. Katakuri was never in a real fight, thats why his back never hit the ground. Of course hes not durable at all. He was never hit enough. With his fruit & his observation haki. Ppl can't really hit him. +plus luffy is rubber 50% of the damage is cut in half. U remember luffy when he got smacked by Blackbeard he almost died without that rubber body lol.
sanji vs zoro please
He doesn't like to make videos where Sanji loses
@@zechariahkendallgreen7657 Zoro fans would quite literally eat him alive, they are rabid
@hxgon he struggled with his opponent much more than sanji also youve got to understand how ablilities react as if zoro cant hit sanji enough times sanji is cooking zoro and i cant see zoro landing or blocking enough hits in time to stop sanji
@hxgon he was reacting not doing well he was getting cooked and we know that sanjis speed is beyond kings by a pretty large margine as sanji has one of if not the greatest speed feat in one peice being able to travel all the way across an island in less than a second he moved so fast he didnt just blitz he went invisible and if queen couldnt see sanji i dont think zoros obv is that much better and it would take more than one hit from zoro because A sanjis durability is arguably better than flame on kings let alone sanjis top teir endurance the speed gap between sanji and zoro is much bigger than the gap between luffy and kaido we also know that because sanji doesnt rely on conq hes not completely vonurable after landing an attack and zoros speed is only comparable to flames on king not off and sanji has shown a crazy amount of attack potency against s shark and he also proved to struggle less against seraphim than zoro which proves how much speed matters
@hxgon Fighting a stronger opponent doesn't automatically mean you win a vs battle. That's a super black and white way to look at things. Things like matchups and which categories are won over others matter far more especially when you're talking about 2 extremely relative characters like Sanji/Zoro. Sanji vs Zoro is actually a pretty interesting fight that should have tons of videos about it and its nuances. Problem is that everybody in the OP community just looks at Zoro defeating King whos stronger than Queen and says "well hes stronger so he wins". Refusing to even note how Zoro's fight was an extreme diff fight with Zoro nearly dying at many moments while Sanji's fight was like a mid diff at best due to Sanji's mental problems and a low diff once he got past his mental troubles. Saying "Zoros stronger, he defeated King so he wins." is a very boring answer that just serves to make all the Zoro fans happy as going against the norm is discouraged.
For example one example of nuance is how Zoro struggles with flying opponents, we saw that vs King and if i remember right he stated how King's flight was making things far harder than it should be. Sanji is capable of flight that's not only faster than King's but is also far more agile being able to turn at any millisecond he wants to as we saw when he was comboing Queen. When he started his combo Queen tried to strike back, Sanji instantly dashes in another direction and dashes back at Queen and kicks him in the shoulder knocking Queen into the wall disorienting him and continuing his combo. This mixed with Sanji's better observation Haki would make him significantly harder to tag in comparison to King.
Another thing to consider is the durability of Zoro and how he'd be realistically dealing with Sanji's AP. And this is the issue with looking at this fight in black & white. I always see people say Zoro oneshots Sanji yet never consider how much Sanji would be doing to Zoro since Zoro's durability isn't that good. Everyone says Zoro oneshots Sanji yet Zoro openly admitted to being capable of being oneshot by King's Jackpot explosion. King's Jackpot explosion was relative to the explosion of Boeuf Burst in size... I'll let you connect the dots.
I could go on and on but i think you get the point, its not black and white.
Also why would Zoro landing an attack oneshot Sanji? Zoro didn't even oneshot flames off King and im sure we can both agree Sanji is more durable than flames off King.
Katakuri took an L to the future king of a pirates Don't really see how that's a big deal also by losing that fight it set him free allowing him to be himself. Kat is still a top baller
Luffy's endurance (plot armor) is REALLY REALLY good for a skinny short 19 y/o. And don't even say he's made of rubber because that does NOT work against armament haki which is what most katakuri attacks were. Luffy vs Katakury is the worst plot armor win so far. If you disagree you're just wrong and stop glazing Oda he's not a god.
Solid vid all around.
Way too many people like to say that Luffy won with plot armor, and/or that Kat lost due to thematic reasons/respect for Luffy, but this is simply because they completely overestimate Kat’s AP and speed feats. And I don’t just mean he’s ass because Luffy took 100+ hits from him and could still fight, I mean Kat has no calcs/scaling aside from his fight with Luffy to say that he ever scaled above him in any regard.
“But Kat overpowered Luffy several times”
Kat only overwhelmed Luffy in their first gattling clash by having way more limbs to use, nothing suggest that any of his individual hits strike harder than Luffy can.
Luffy did get overpowered in the Elephant Gun clash…when he was middair while Kat had a solid foothold on the ground.
Kat did cause base Luffy pain with the Block Mochi, but causing pain is not the same as overpowering; Luffy never got pushed back in these clashes, meaning even if he was inferior to Block Mochi’s AP it wasn’t by a significant margin.
“But Kat’s so much faster”
He only ever blitzed Luffy once, maybe twice if we count the instance where Kat stopped Luffy from punching Brûlée. Aside from that, while a lot of Kat’s attacks were landing, base Luffy was still fast enough to dodge several of Kat’s strikes, even one that was explicitly aided by Kat’s future sight.
*Katakuri attacked himself with spear without haki and devil fruit*
This guy:katakuri ap is sooooo bad
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Cuz it is
😂😂pls more
Kat fought Luffy for 12 hours. He obviously took more damage than 13 hits.
did you even watch the video oh my lord
@@serodio_petitseum it’s just blatantly wrong a lot and makes points that make no sense at all. Man has some pretty bad takes from time to time.
But this would also entail that Luffy was taking more hits offscreen as well, so there’s no way that Luffy’s dishing out enough landing attacks to close the numerical difference.
@@michaeldorsey9231 I agree that the ratio was probably similar, meaning Luffy took FARRRR more abuse than people give him credit for. But then again, he did have a mythical zoan god fruit and has been fighting battles where he takes a bajillion damage the entire series. The fact that it went longer only shows both fighters’ endurance is higher than people think.
Question! Do you think characters other than strawhats get the "next island buff" sorta like how Crocodile did at marineford?
Gambler, I'm ngl I sometimes don't like a lot of the videos you put out in concept. Simply because I like more real views instead of scaling cause scaling is bullshit. But your style of humor and editing is so God damn funny that I can actually enjoy these types of vids. Never change, never rest
what videos do you like in concept then?
@RestlessGambler you already do those too lmao. I was just stating that you as a personal content creator gives at least me a lot of entertainment value on the ones I don't really like. But to answer the question my favorite have gotta be just theory videos. Some people have good ideas, and some people catch on to things I don't. So I watch a varied amount of people to give myself a better picture of whatevers being talked about (jjk, op, etc)
@@dmajorray6154so like my hakari vs uraume video? or do you have a video in mind in specific?
@RestlessGambler besides the general chapter reviews one of my favorite was the underrated admirals. Lotta people online like to have things misconstrued for whatever reason, so vids that call out general "why the FUCK do people think this when they don't have a reason to" are pretty good.
@@dmajorray6154gotchu i’ll keep that in mind for the future
he has horrible durability and pretty bad endurance but great stamina. kat is at least way above jack and should at least be on the same level as queen via getting perospero on a higher level than cat viper without sulong form. inuarashi without his sulong was doing pretty god against jack and destroyed jack. inuarashi is comparable to cat viper. Perospero is way weaker than cracker and smoothie let alone katakuri. So even though katakuris endurance is kind of ass he is at least on queens level. Loses in a pretty interesting fight against king. He doesnt stop at ulti.
Also some people think base luffy surpassed g4 luffy multiple times in wano after training in udon prison because he got one shotted by a thunder bagua in g4 but then he did not on the roof. People are missing the part that the thunder bague on the rooftop only grazed luffy and barely hit him. g4 luffy litterly took the entire thunder bague while flying into it.
Obsessed with the agenda lol the fight was like 12 hours and bro was spamming Awakening and advanced haki. Durability and AP undoubtedly ass compared to Wano but he's a dog just for being able to fight like that for that long
daddy akianu I mean gambler plss let my boy katakuri to rest in peace like my guy is slandered enough in edits
Hit Dragon ball Super vs Katekuri
@TheTrueSigma wildin in the comment section rn
9:14 i dont get this argument or debate? What are you tryin to say? Luffy win without plot? Obviously luffy is more durable & has more endurance. Its a givin. Katakuri is a guy who is never touched. Luffy is a person who had his ass beat down in many fierce battles. N 50% of his damage is taking away by him being rubber. At least the damage is minimized. A lot.
40 seconds
Hit bro with a “Kat was getting hit with straight finishers/named attacks where Luffy is getting tagged majority by normal punches” just for him to pull out the list of attacks taken 😭
That’s when I knew this man *stood on business*
“We’ll both be happy” bro is the best negotiater ever
Thank you for this great video
For my birthday
can’t wait to see what Irrszz (the katakuri pfp dude) comments on this 😭💀
Katakuri lost cause Oda said so
13
there is a theory (just a theory not supporting katakuri he is still ass ) that he fell on purpose because he used his future sight and saw that if he kills him he will unlock a new form (which is gear 5)
and he was so exhausted that he said fuck this shit and fell asleep .
Thank you so much restless the katakuri downplay has been crazy, number 13 became more popular than me beast
Now I can finally brag about how katakuri didn’t lose in 13 hits, he lost in 17
Funny video, you’re right. But it was meant as a more narrative fight. It definitely could’ve been done better but I liked it enough.
Lmao crocodile has a bigger bounty than kat😂😂
Ight Hit from dragon ball super vs Katekuri
These comments are chalk full of Katakuri Apologists defending him getting thrashed by a Luffy with no Advanced Haki mastery. It's actually quite funny how many excuses they make 😂
Great video!
Ulti’s rival
Lucci>Kat by far
why you lowballin are boi katakuri like dat
He is not low balling he is just speakin fax
@@Jusaguywithbrainno he is lowballing, and he’s just stupid
finally these katakuri fanboys get proven wrong again.
Can we do a vid how kat got powercreep at wano and show how ulti can give fraudkat a extrme diff fight
sanji also should be worst generation also adress sanji pedophile alligations please
Nobody did a single thing to be called that people just bugging, except maybe Loda who drew her showering topless.
@@Jamb3tohe's just asking him to address the allegations, not that he agrees with them 😕
@@NO-zb3fz you right that’s my fault anyways nobody is actually a pedo except Oda( I have a new agenda🗣️🗣️).
I guess oda should be locked up too for drawing a 12 year old like that
@@vegetacultminorityhunter what 12 year old
gotta admit i love kaatakuri. But he has no chance when sanji is blitzing him with ifrit jambe. The disrespect you give him though is still too much. I dont like the concept of analyzing and count blood cough/ hits.
The slander is the funniest part lmao. Im also a big Katakuri fan but seeing the Katakuri defenders get genuinely upset over it is pretty funny
I already knew bro was about to get hummiliated again 😔🙏
Egghead island sanji vs kid, law, and yamato?
People really so caught up in a character that hasnt been important for 5 years thats crazy
Bru the kat fans are back wit a venjance
This video explain the main problem in this fight, Whole cake is one of my favorite arcs and I really like Katakuri in conceot and as character, but he lost to a Luffy that literally only landed 13 attacks. An good argument could be that Katakuri has his entire life without taking damage, since Luffy has moments were he almost die since the begin of the series, but it doesn't mean that the result of the fight feels incredibly strange.
Ah yes let’s pretend Katakuri didn’t just willingly throw the fight after Luffy told him his dream, let’s also pretend Katakuri didn’t stab himself, let’s also pretend Out of the 13 attacks most of those were Gear 4 attacks
Katakuri haters have reached an all new low smh
Luffy got stabbed by a named attack and the reason he couldn't keep up the fight was cus he couldn't (read manga ) and what makes u think wci g4 is some sort if top tier
@@Jusaguywithbrainbuddy Luffy BARELY got stabbed by that attack, Kat straight up runs it through his body. Plus I’m not acting like WCi Gear 4 is top tier but this guy is acting like Kat doesn’t have any durability
Bro is uploading like crazy rn
8:31 this beat is so fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I hope he comes back and is better
this video will be talked about in years to come🐐