"Keeping your adversaries busy and well behaved" Must be the nicest way to put, 'pulping them into meat soup with machine gun rounds' that I've ever heard.
When I served overseas in the Marine Corp, whenever we encountered a pkp/pkm gunner who knew what they were doing and had a solid firing position, I can tell you that we worked to eliminate that battlefield target as quickly as we possibly could. It's a great weapon for pinning down a fairly large element while other fighters move up into closer positions. One encounter that specifically comes to mind is when we were moving through an open field that did have some shallow "trenches" to an extent, we were engaged by what we estimated to be roughly 20-30 Taliban fighters and they had 2 gunners operating these weapons. Thankfully it seemed like neither of them were what I would consider to be experts at shooting but even so they were able injury 3 of our guys and ended up unfortunately killing 2 of us. We got pinned down by these two gunners until we were able to call in some close air support which did take out both gun positions but in that time the rest of the fighters were able to move forward into the compound area that we were trying to get into ourselves, so we ended up having to engage them and ultimately eliminate those targets ourselves with small arms fire and maneuver tactics, which thankfully we were able to do without anymore casualties. My point though, is that these types of weapons are so simple and easy to use that even relatively untrained and inexperienced fighters were still able to properly suppress our unit with overwhelming fire that was accurate enough to make us unable to make any forward movements towards hard cover. Weapons such as these have the ability to provide a smaller light infantry unit with the capability of maneuvering squad sized elements into better firing positions so they can use their small arms rifle fire to place much more accurate shots down range and on target resulting in the ability to inflict real casualties on the enemy etc. We never wanted to run into ANY belt fed weapons, but these ones in particular were definitely the types that we hoped to encounter the least, ya know? Very solid, simple, and reliable machine guns that could be easily operated by even the youngest and most inexperienced fighters over there.
Massive respect for people who can translate technical information between languages, let alone making technical matters commonly accessible in the same language.
Fitted with an 3.5x acog like we had I claim it is the best, light, handy for its size, barrel changes are easy and fast, recoil is nice, fire rate is in the sweet spot for gpmg, etc.
actually the best, not even the american Mk48 coming close, not to mention its expensive. PKM is actually the most used and widely seen in most combat. battleproven and better than any machinegun out there in terms of design and weight.
@@TheSpekkel1 Yep. We are not going to abandon PKM till some battleship galactica laser thingie comes reality. If there would not be problem with different chambering, everyone would be using it **. We Finns got boatloads of them at price of metal trash from just unified Germany. And bought more of them directly from Russians later in 90s (at the time they were on debt to us, Russians had no currency to pay in hard currency, they offered PKMs and NSVs as hard currency at firesale prices, and we accepted). ** Finns have MGs in 7.62 NATO on tanks, and helo miniguns (both services have their own supply channels, exactly like Brits run 7.92 Besa during WW2). Army runs 7.62x54R as GPMG round.
There is an entire treasure trove of cool russian weapons ranging from less known to mystery guns that Ian and Max need to get their hands on and record it. VSS, Groza, ASh-12, the pump-action grenade launcher, OTs-38, SR-3(m), all the freaky Korobov bullpups, the underwater assault rifles, VSSK Vychlop and other 12.7 snipers, the AKs with antirecoil mechanisms etc. One of these days...
I think I speak for most of us here when I say, "Let Max know how much we appreciate his time to do these videos with you Ian." (You too of course :D) I love the anecdotes like the Maxims still being used until the 1980's to prptect against human wave attacks.
@@GreenHellTube I haven't made it that far, I'm still at Garbage, stockpiling hoards of supplies and trying to decide how best to transport well over 60kg+ of loot...
Ian I can't stress enough how great it is that you added subtitles to Max who is obviously doing his best with English. I believe it was Military History Visualized that had a German museum curator a few weeks back who spoke some English but was virtually unintelligible and could have really used subtitles be it for clarification or direct translation. Thanks for putting in the extra work!
I love this. Hi Max! Come back for more videos please. I don't know if Max is Russian, but I would bet lots of enthusiasts who study the firearms of their native lands would be fantastic sources of information.
He is and he's a quite prolific arms expert in Russian-speaking part of the Internet. He's been running his blog since, I think, 2001 or something like that. I remember reading it a long time ago when I was much younger.
Thanks Ian for subtitling all Max's speech, it's really big job! Few very minor corrections from me: 1) "IzMash" should be "TsNIITochMash", as "Central Scientific Research Institute of Precise Machinery" 2) "More modern steel" from Max means "newer kind of steel" :)
Tank you for the subtitles. Max speaks better English than I speak Russian, but his Russian accent still makes it difficult for me to keep up at times without help.
I'm not sure the subtitles are needed (by me) but it's hard to know when the words are right in front of me. When I see them in a video with Max it does remind me of this video about subtitles. th-cam.com/video/j0m4rcx0of4/w-d-xo.html
A friend of mine was in a special forces unit in Afghanistan, and he said everyone ADORED the PKM. Their Humvees were usually issued with either a Ma Deuce (M2 hmg in .50BMG) or an M134d minigun from Dillon Aero, and then 2 m240's for the other static mounts. But then they would literally go to the local arms bazaar in whatever village they were near, and buy up as many PKMs as they had and mounted those things at every other point on the vehicle that could take a weapon. They were often leftover captured ones from when the Mujahideen were going toe to toe with the Soviets, but they just worked! Plus, even if they were in some God forsaken corner of the world, ammo was still so easy to come by. I've seen pictures of Special Forces Humvees that looked like a freaking porcupine of death, with one M2, two m240's, one 249 SAW, and THREE PKMs hanging off it! They just had them there so that if one of the other guns choked, or they ran through a whole box of ammo on one of the 240's and didn't have time to reload, they could just swing it out of the way, grab one of PKMs, and continue doing work. Yeah, the PKM is incredible.
@@Tunkkis Nicely done. It's actually _'Cnitochmash'_ or _'Cnitočmaš'_ for those more versed in linguistics. Incidentally someone with access should point out to Ian that the mans name is _'Popenkin'_ pronounced _'Papenkin', _ not _'Popenker'._ Big difference when you're trying to Google the guy and come up empty.
@@ivareskesner2019 That's how I've learned to transliterate Russian cyrillic, but that is probably because I am Finnish. I assume your version is based on some sort of English rules or system, is that right?
@@ivareskesner2019 i dunno where you came up with that Popenkin thing nonsense. I've been following him for years in russian part of internet and not once have i seen or heard it as Popenkin
ian you have done us proud by finding this guy. he seems a wealth of information on soviet/Russo arms and i look forward to the series you may end up doing
These videos and transcripts should for sure go into the Forgotten Weapons archive project, together with some notes on Max's background and sources. It's invaluable stuff on Soviet small arms development.
Please get Max to speak about the VSS and AS VAL on through to the SR-3M and 9A-91 special forces weapons, the subsonic 9x39 is an awesome munition and the weapons that use it are fascinating.
Max Popenker's fire arms blogs are nearly second to none. I've been using his websites for over 10 years now. Huge fan. Great to see my two favorite fire arms "lecturers" together.
A tiny bit difficult to understand, but incredibly fascinating and informative! Thanks for the subtitles, they helped on those tricky accented words, but, this guy is fantastic, please have him on more!
I was just commenting on how I could listen to Max for hours, and I realized this playlist has what, four or five videos in a row that Max is heading! I'm *spoiled*!
Previously I found it a little difficult to understand Max, and I still do but once you get over that (thanks for the subtitles btw) he's great to listen to. Very well formulated and has so much interesting stuff to say.
@@DragoonZeroAlpha well, to be fair. NSV was replaced by KORD not because the weapon was bad, but because the company that made NSV and the license for this weapon fell into the hands of Kazakhstan, after the Soviet collapse. Therefore, Russia made an analogue that was made domestically so they didn't have to buy weapons from other countries, and from there KORD was born.
@fedrickosamuelshidarta970 I could also be wrong but isn't kord the latest .50 system developed/fielded? And is it the lightest .50 hmg in mass production? I mean....I'm sure I saw them deployed on a bipod in some video during testing? Probably not Good for long term parts wear/tear but still...it sounds pretty good?
Thanks very much Ian and Maxim for the very interesting interview! Great insights, pictures and comments. Would love to see more of such collaboration!)
Большое спасибо Максиму за его труд. Ещё будучи подростком я наткнулся на его сайт и почерпнул там огромное количество знаний о стрелковом оружии! Thanks a lot to Max for what he's done. When I was a teenager I received a planty of useful information about firearms from his site. And a big deal of pictures ofc :)
AN EXTRAORDINARY THANK YOU AND KUDOS TO BOTH OF YOU BRILLIANT GENTLEMEN FOR THE TROVE OF INFORMATION (AT THE ENCYCLOPEDIC LEVEL) ABOUT THE PKM AND IT'S DIFFERENT GENERATIONS.
"Pappy-anchor", Ian, that'll make it easier :-). Thanks Max, very interesting history. I don't normally get to hear a great deal about the internal development and decisions of Soviet/Russian arms.
I love Max's knowledge on these subjects and it's great that you can get him to work with you on Russian arms, absolutely no complaints on that front, but I do have a small suggestion: If at all possible try to figure out a way for him to get a bit better microphone (you can get a good USB large diagram microphone for 40€, Superlux E205U as an example, and you don't even need to go that high end really), and have him record his part on his end and send it to you for editing together. It could improve his audio quality dramatically. His accent isn't that thick in itself, but combined with the slightly poor audio quality it can make him a bit hard to understand at times. Of course the subtitles work, but this kind of content would make for a great podcast type listening experience too.
I'll put this out here in case anyone knows about it but zencastr is software used for many podcasts that is capable of recording audio at both remote locations - and results in excellent audio quality. Not sure if it's practical to use for videos though.
@@anfrac3700 that is a lie. First of all - no russian army units are or were engaged in Ukraine war. Second - Bullpup PKP was made in early 2013, when there were NO armed coup in Urkaine, that happened in the end of the 2013.
Garand Thumb just did a video of a PKM, now Ian. Do a collab already, guys :D And, ofc, спасибо вам, Максим, за такое дельное, качественное интервью. Оч ценим, оч любим
Once again the Czechs have an input to a design. Perhaps a vid on their influence over the years on Firearms design? A pleasure to listen to an expert in his field.
Thank you, Mr Popenker!! These videos are very informative and interesting. ALSO, I find your English very understandable, though the captioning is nice. :D
Loved these videos for sure. pkm has to be the best marchinegun out there. While training overseas I spent some time I Hungary and after talking to some of the Hungarians I asked to touch and play around with their pkm, god I have never felt a lighter machinegun or more beautiful one ever. It made me hate carrying the .240s lol.
Interesting how the relative poverty of the Soviets forced them to drop inferior designs quicker than the US military which also seemed to make them adopt innovative designs more quickly as well.
I've shot a couple hundred rounds from PKM and this gun is just awesome. Only thing it needs is a rail on top, so you could mount some optics. But even without it, shooting at 400 meters with iron sights is just pure joy.
It shouldn't be difficult to design a PKM derivative for 7.62x51 ammunition. The key would be incorporating the Browning style pull-out disintegrating link belts rather than drastically redesigning the PKM for the current NATO push-through belts (as Poland has).
KPV was intended for anti-aircraft role, but militants in Middle East decided that it is better to use it against troops and building, just like the Germans with their flak 88mms.
i love the PKM! so this is another awesome Video about his history - thanks to both of you! Edit:maybe i missed something but did he mentioned the bulpup version of the pkm too? and a big thx btw for the subtitles ^^
A video on this machine gun has been long overdue . I can't believe I stumbled into it on the day it was published . The PKM is my all time favorite GPMG .
@Max Popenker "...make your own machine gun" Actually Poland did, it was the Kbkm wz. 2003, and it was in development after 1996, the UKM-2000 won over that design during trials. Then in 2015 there was another trial and the Negev lost to the UKM-2000P. Let's put this into perspective: The PKM weighs about 7.5kg with a barrel length of 658mm. The Negev NG-7 has a barrel length of 508mm and weighs 7.95 kg. The UKM-2000 has a barrel length of 547mm and weighs 8.4 kg. The UKM-2000P weighs 10kg and has a barrel length of 540mm. From this I can conclude that Poland must REALLY like the PKM even if it's a PKM with feed system borrowed from the MG3 with barrel 10cm less and weighing more by a kg or two even.
Another amazing video 😍 by Max. As an Indian, it's especially interesting to hear his research because our military has traditionally used NATO guns but a lot of Soviet heavy weaponry so it's been interesting here. So for example, we used the FAL until the mid 90s but started switching to the indigenous 5.56 NATO for MBR while still using tonnes of 5.56 and 7.62 Russian, Czech and Bulgarian AKs throughout that period until now given that a quarter of the Indian Army is deployed in Kashmir at any given time. Also, every new regiment being raised has to be raised as a Rashtriya Rifles regiment serving in Kashmir (irrespective of whether it is infantry, armored or artillery....well maybe not artillery🙂🤔🙄) to give them combat exposure while being trained as a unit. I think the combination of that (the mandatory combat exposure in Kashmir with the use of AK instead of the INSAS 5.56) is what has led to the adoption of the AK 203 in 7.62 as the new rifle for the Indian army, with smaller but still substantial numbers of SiGs and M4 derivatives in specialist roles. It's a very interesting time in small arms in the Indian Army and I'd be really psyched if you guys could look at why and how these developments would have happened. The Russians and Indians have cooperated a lot in weapons system development since the fall of the Union because unfortunately the Russian Federation has been in financial quagmires and crises constantly since then as also the fact that we are Russia's largest customer. Could you at least have a looksie at the AK203 in detail since over 700,000 are to be adopted as the main battle rifle for one of the largest armies on the planet....like pretty please🥺????
I hope Max Popenker knows how much we appreciate his valuable input here on TH-cam.
If you ever see this, thanks Mr. Popenker.
Sqeeye use Google translate
Otherwise he might not understand idk
He'll find out eventually if we can make this top comment, everybody like dat goodness^^
You can send him a friend request. He is very willing to deal with strangers.
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Wholesome and true
I could listen to Max speak about guns forever.
Kyllä.
I could watch Ian nod at me forever.
"mashing guns" in particular. I guess they are used to make mashed potatoes. Sorry, it's just Popenkers unique and adorable pronunciation.
@@Wipa4 Smashing Pumpkins with Mashing Guns.
"Keeping your adversaries busy and well behaved"
Must be the nicest way to put, 'pulping them into meat soup with machine gun rounds' that I've ever heard.
I scrolled down to post this. What a beautiful euphemism.
It came to my mind that the no-insignia-military personnel which took a certain part in the events in Crimea, 2014 were nicknamed "the polite people".
Nazis had pretty bad manners and hard to make well behave
When I served overseas in the Marine Corp, whenever we encountered a pkp/pkm gunner who knew what they were doing and had a solid firing position, I can tell you that we worked to eliminate that battlefield target as quickly as we possibly could. It's a great weapon for pinning down a fairly large element while other fighters move up into closer positions. One encounter that specifically comes to mind is when we were moving through an open field that did have some shallow "trenches" to an extent, we were engaged by what we estimated to be roughly 20-30 Taliban fighters and they had 2 gunners operating these weapons. Thankfully it seemed like neither of them were what I would consider to be experts at shooting but even so they were able injury 3 of our guys and ended up unfortunately killing 2 of us. We got pinned down by these two gunners until we were able to call in some close air support which did take out both gun positions but in that time the rest of the fighters were able to move forward into the compound area that we were trying to get into ourselves, so we ended up having to engage them and ultimately eliminate those targets ourselves with small arms fire and maneuver tactics, which thankfully we were able to do without anymore casualties. My point though, is that these types of weapons are so simple and easy to use that even relatively untrained and inexperienced fighters were still able to properly suppress our unit with overwhelming fire that was accurate enough to make us unable to make any forward movements towards hard cover. Weapons such as these have the ability to provide a smaller light infantry unit with the capability of maneuvering squad sized elements into better firing positions so they can use their small arms rifle fire to place much more accurate shots down range and on target resulting in the ability to inflict real casualties on the enemy etc. We never wanted to run into ANY belt fed weapons, but these ones in particular were definitely the types that we hoped to encounter the least, ya know? Very solid, simple, and reliable machine guns that could be easily operated by even the youngest and most inexperienced fighters over there.
Massive respect for people who can translate technical information between languages, let alone making technical matters commonly accessible in the same language.
"to keep adversaries busy and well behaved." I could listen to this dude all day.
great info; the PKM is one of the best GPMGs on the planet for sure
Fitted with an 3.5x acog like we had I claim it is the best, light, handy for its size, barrel changes are easy and fast, recoil is nice, fire rate is in the sweet spot for gpmg, etc.
actually the best, not even the american Mk48 coming close, not to mention its expensive. PKM is actually the most used and widely seen in most combat. battleproven and better than any machinegun out there in terms of design and weight.
@@richelle9563 yeah i mean the design is just perfect.
@@richelle9563 Mk48 is belgian , its FN Maximi aka minimi upcalibered
@@TheSpekkel1 Yep. We are not going to abandon PKM till some battleship galactica laser thingie comes reality. If there would not be problem with different chambering, everyone would be using it **. We Finns got boatloads of them at price of metal trash from just unified Germany. And bought more of them directly from Russians later in 90s (at the time they were on debt to us, Russians had no currency to pay in hard currency, they offered PKMs and NSVs as hard currency at firesale prices, and we accepted).
** Finns have MGs in 7.62 NATO on tanks, and helo miniguns (both services have their own supply channels, exactly like Brits run 7.92 Besa during WW2). Army runs 7.62x54R as GPMG round.
Need to know history of vss vintorez please.
id be interested in that
Yes please!
There is an entire treasure trove of cool russian weapons ranging from less known to mystery guns that Ian and Max need to get their hands on and record it. VSS, Groza, ASh-12, the pump-action grenade launcher, OTs-38, SR-3(m), all the freaky Korobov bullpups, the underwater assault rifles, VSSK Vychlop and other 12.7 snipers, the AKs with antirecoil mechanisms etc.
One of these days...
I second this. Pairing it with a STALKER stream would be twice as awesome.
@@milanstepanek4185 I just hope they're as weird and interesting on the inside as that an-94 he got a hold of awhile ago!
I think I speak for most of us here when I say, "Let Max know how much we appreciate his time to do these videos with you Ian." (You too of course :D) I love the anecdotes like the Maxims still being used until the 1980's to prptect against human wave attacks.
It’s fucking insane the PKM, developed in the Cold War, is still the lightest platform of its kind. Gun shoots vibe checks for days. Damn the NFA.
It's so cool to hear that Max had a part in the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. series. Great stuff and always interresting to hear Max!
@@LaughingMan44 He was that gunsmith dude on the Freedom base in the first game.
@@GreenHellTube I haven't made it that far, I'm still at Garbage, stockpiling hoards of supplies and trying to decide how best to transport well over 60kg+ of loot...
@@Feiora lmao
Ian I can't stress enough how great it is that you added subtitles to Max who is obviously doing his best with English. I believe it was Military History Visualized that had a German museum curator a few weeks back who spoke some English but was virtually unintelligible and could have really used subtitles be it for clarification or direct translation. Thanks for putting in the extra work!
I love this. Hi Max! Come back for more videos please.
I don't know if Max is Russian, but I would bet lots of enthusiasts who study the firearms of their native lands would be fantastic sources of information.
He is and he's a quite prolific arms expert in Russian-speaking part of the Internet. He's been running his blog since, I think, 2001 or something like that. I remember reading it a long time ago when I was much younger.
@@StG45m In Shadow Of Chernobyl, there is a character modeled after him. Skinflint is his name.
@@AgentDanielCross 0_0 wow, it's a young foto too
stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Skinflint
@@StG45m Thanks. I'm familiar with some of his work, but didn't want to guess a nationality based on an accent. :)
@@RockIslandAuctionCompany Technically, he is Jewish but he's Jewish Russian.
He also used to work in the Marketing Depratment of Kalashnikov.
Thanks Ian for subtitling all Max's speech, it's really big job!
Few very minor corrections from me:
1) "IzMash" should be "TsNIITochMash", as "Central Scientific Research Institute of Precise Machinery"
2) "More modern steel" from Max means "newer kind of steel" :)
Tank you for the subtitles. Max speaks better English than I speak Russian, but his Russian accent still makes it difficult for me to keep up at times without help.
I'm not sure the subtitles are needed (by me) but it's hard to know when the words are right in front of me. When I see them in a video with Max it does remind me of this video about subtitles. th-cam.com/video/j0m4rcx0of4/w-d-xo.html
I can't get enough of Max :)
Max is the Russian Ian
Thanks mr.McKellen for those amount of content that you provide to us.
Didnt know Gandalf was in the video... jk 😜
A friend of mine was in a special forces unit in Afghanistan, and he said everyone ADORED the PKM. Their Humvees were usually issued with either a Ma Deuce (M2 hmg in .50BMG) or an M134d minigun from Dillon Aero, and then 2 m240's for the other static mounts. But then they would literally go to the local arms bazaar in whatever village they were near, and buy up as many PKMs as they had and mounted those things at every other point on the vehicle that could take a weapon. They were often leftover captured ones from when the Mujahideen were going toe to toe with the Soviets, but they just worked! Plus, even if they were in some God forsaken corner of the world, ammo was still so easy to come by. I've seen pictures of Special Forces Humvees that looked like a freaking porcupine of death, with one M2, two m240's, one 249 SAW, and THREE PKMs hanging off it! They just had them there so that if one of the other guns choked, or they ran through a whole box of ammo on one of the 240's and didn't have time to reload, they could just swing it out of the way, grab one of PKMs, and continue doing work. Yeah, the PKM is incredible.
19:22 ЦНИТОЧМАШ, not Izhmash, Ian.
It's those guys who made AS Val and APS underwater AR.
Or TSNIITOCHMASH in English transliteration.
@@Tunkkis Nicely done. It's actually _'Cnitochmash'_ or _'Cnitočmaš'_ for those more versed in linguistics. Incidentally someone with access should point out to Ian that the mans name is _'Popenkin'_ pronounced _'Papenkin', _ not _'Popenker'._ Big difference when you're trying to Google the guy and come up empty.
@@ivareskesner2019 That's how I've learned to transliterate Russian cyrillic, but that is probably because I am Finnish. I assume your version is based on some sort of English rules or system, is that right?
@@ivareskesner2019 i dunno where you came up with that Popenkin thing nonsense. I've been following him for years in russian part of internet and not once have i seen or heard it as Popenkin
ЦНИИ
ian you have done us proud by finding this guy. he seems a wealth of information on soviet/Russo arms and i look forward to the series you may end up doing
These videos and transcripts should for sure go into the Forgotten Weapons archive project, together with some notes on Max's background and sources. It's invaluable stuff on Soviet small arms development.
Please get Max to speak about the VSS and AS VAL on through to the SR-3M and 9A-91 special forces weapons, the subsonic 9x39 is an awesome munition and the weapons that use it are fascinating.
1 person got caught by his boss shooting sniper ball
19:25
He was talking about TsNIITochMash, not Izhmash.
Max Popenker's fire arms blogs are nearly second to none. I've been using his websites for over 10 years now. Huge fan. Great to see my two favorite fire arms "lecturers" together.
Always great to have Max on the show! Thank you both.
Rich.
Just excellent. I hope to see more of these videos in the future with him!
I know Max personally, and I can say is a first class Gentleman with a vast culture in everything more than weapons
A tiny bit difficult to understand, but incredibly fascinating and informative! Thanks for the subtitles, they helped on those tricky accented words, but, this guy is fantastic, please have him on more!
wow, so informative!! thanks so much for inviting this guest on your channel!!
The PK series has always been my favorite MG (after the MG42/3 anyway), so this video was a real treat.
I was just commenting on how I could listen to Max for hours, and I realized this playlist has what, four or five videos in a row that Max is heading! I'm *spoiled*!
That info about Maxim being used until late 80s @9:33 is the most surprised Ian I've seen.
Those Maxims were mount instalations in the fortifications agains China.
Previously I found it a little difficult to understand Max, and I still do but once you get over that (thanks for the subtitles btw) he's great to listen to. Very well formulated and has so much interesting stuff to say.
Well, Nikitin and Sokolov still got their chance by developing the successor to the "Dushka", the NSV 12,7 mm.
And then came the "Kord"
@@DragoonZeroAlpha well, to be fair. NSV was replaced by KORD not because the weapon was bad, but because the company that made NSV and the license for this weapon fell into the hands of Kazakhstan, after the Soviet collapse. Therefore, Russia made an analogue that was made domestically so they didn't have to buy weapons from other countries, and from there KORD was born.
@fedrickosamuelshidarta970 I could also be wrong but isn't kord the latest .50 system developed/fielded?
And is it the lightest .50 hmg in mass production?
I mean....I'm sure I saw them deployed on a bipod in some video during testing?
Probably not Good for long term parts wear/tear but still...it sounds pretty good?
Thanks very much Ian and Maxim for the very interesting interview! Great insights, pictures and comments. Would love to see more of such collaboration!)
24:39 Having flashbacks of that MG nest in Cordon from Stalker Clear Sky.
A brilliant presentation of the history and development highlighting reasoned advances. Max is a captivating, fascinating, lecturer. Thank you both.
The design was decades ahead of its time
Большое спасибо Максиму за его труд. Ещё будучи подростком я наткнулся на его сайт и почерпнул там огромное количество знаний о стрелковом оружии!
Thanks a lot to Max for what he's done. When I was a teenager I received a planty of useful information about firearms from his site. And a big deal of pictures ofc :)
I really appreciate Max's knowledge. Very insightful and always a pleasure.
AN EXTRAORDINARY THANK YOU AND KUDOS TO BOTH OF YOU BRILLIANT GENTLEMEN FOR THE TROVE OF INFORMATION (AT THE ENCYCLOPEDIC LEVEL) ABOUT THE PKM AND IT'S DIFFERENT GENERATIONS.
Awesome, awesome interview! Max is the best! Thx to the both of you for producing.
"Pappy-anchor", Ian, that'll make it easier :-). Thanks Max, very interesting history. I don't normally get to hear a great deal about the internal development and decisions of Soviet/Russian arms.
Sadly, I probably will not see Goryunov MG disassembly and range performance on this channel, yet, another thank you for a good episode, Ian.
I love Max's knowledge on these subjects and it's great that you can get him to work with you on Russian arms, absolutely no complaints on that front, but I do have a small suggestion: If at all possible try to figure out a way for him to get a bit better microphone (you can get a good USB large diagram microphone for 40€, Superlux E205U as an example, and you don't even need to go that high end really), and have him record his part on his end and send it to you for editing together. It could improve his audio quality dramatically. His accent isn't that thick in itself, but combined with the slightly poor audio quality it can make him a bit hard to understand at times.
Of course the subtitles work, but this kind of content would make for a great podcast type listening experience too.
The skype compression doesn't help either, dunno about now, but back when I still used it it had awful audio quality.
Its a skype call dude. Even Ians voice is slightly changed. What youre probably trying to fix is the echo.
I'll put this out here in case anyone knows about it but zencastr is software used for many podcasts that is capable of recording audio at both remote locations - and results in excellent audio quality. Not sure if it's practical to use for videos though.
AFAIK Popenker does not do video blogging (he writes for magazines and blogs), hence the lack of home recording gear.
to be fair, 40€ is 3000₽ and your example is 5500₽ = 75€ + delivery
What about PKP bullpup? Looks really kinda weird, I'd love to see Forgotten Weapons video on that.
thats some inbred failure of a machine gun that came from the war in Ukraine.
AFAIK it was a commercial development by Zenitco.
@@anfrac3700 PKP Bullpup was first made in 2012. Before Crimea.
@@anfrac3700 that is a lie. First of all - no russian army units are or were engaged in Ukraine war. Second - Bullpup PKP was made in early 2013, when there were NO armed coup in Urkaine, that happened in the end of the 2013.
@@antoncomrade2043 The times you just have to sit back and Lol at the cognitive dissonance.
I love these videos about Russian weapon history with Max! Keep up the good work guys!
the quality of this channel keeps improving with each video! keep up the great work!
Garand Thumb just did a video of a PKM, now Ian. Do a collab already, guys :D
And, ofc, спасибо вам, Максим, за такое дельное, качественное интервью. Оч ценим, оч любим
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regno78 what’s a tree MG3 ?
A MG3 THAT IS A TREE?????
@@My_Name_Suc sorry. Three MG3 user..
regno78 i probably should apologize for laughing at you ...
Sorry
No worries
62 Cannon Fodder added their dislikes! ;P
Always epic to hear informed commentary from Mr. Pepenker. Thank you, sir.
Really enjoying having Max coming in to the videos and sharing his knowledge. I would like to see a video on the VSS Vintorez that would be awesome.
I like how you can tell Ian is getting happy and exited by learning
Once again the Czechs have an input to a design. Perhaps a vid on their influence over the years on Firearms design? A pleasure to listen to an expert in his field.
Izraelis Negev mashinengun use same beltfeed type?
I really like Max and his knowledge. It's good to know that gun guys are gun guys no matter where they are from.
I love how interested Ian looks trough the whole thing.
Best weapons for ridding Zone of mutants. Hard to aim though.
You pumped for stalker 2?
@@ChemistyStudent god no, I don't expect anything good
that's why you hip fire from 1m away
@@ChemistyStudent
I'm tentatively hopeful, but not expecting anything.
That was valuable and interesting. Thanks for putting this together.
This is one of your best series. Thanks to you and Max.
Crazy that 2 days ago I was thinking about the pk series machine guns and wanted to learn more and then here we are today with this gem
Thank you, Mr Popenker!! These videos are very informative and interesting. ALSO, I find your English very understandable, though the captioning is nice. :D
Loved these videos for sure. pkm has to be the best marchinegun out there. While training overseas I spent some time I Hungary and after talking to some of the Hungarians I asked to touch and play around with their pkm, god I have never felt a lighter machinegun or more beautiful one ever. It made me hate carrying the .240s lol.
Interesting how the relative poverty of the Soviets forced them to drop inferior designs quicker than the US military which also seemed to make them adopt innovative designs more quickly as well.
Necessity is the mother of all design.
Excellent speech, thanks Max.
Yugoslav M84 in the wars in 90-s was called "Sejač smrti" The sower of death, which is a ode to its effectiveness.
I've shot a couple hundred rounds from PKM and this gun is just awesome. Only thing it needs is a rail on top, so you could mount some optics. But even without it, shooting at 400 meters with iron sights is just pure joy.
О, Попенкер) Давно я на его сайт не заходил, надо глянуть, что там нового.
Thanks , Ian and Max . Well done lads!!
It shouldn't be difficult to design a PKM derivative for 7.62x51 ammunition. The key would be incorporating the Browning style pull-out disintegrating link belts rather than drastically redesigning the PKM for the current NATO push-through belts (as Poland has).
Looking forward to more videos with Max. Very interesting.
When you need 200 rounds of ammo to hit one target
'laughs in russian'
American army used like a truck of ammo per one vietkong kill
@@tedarcher9120 can't choose if r/wooosh you or just tell you that you are stupid because you didn't got the joke.
@@tedarcher9120 that's what happens when machine guns are involved.
Never forget the Austrailians using 10000 rounds to kill 1 emu.
Bliat
@@tedarcher9120 That is called suppressive fire. Or better know as OH SHIT Contact! LOL
I think we could try a Historical Arms "exchange student program" with Max and Ian. But just temporarily.
I KNOW IAN WOULD LOVE TO GET HIS CAMERA IN RUSSIAN MUSEUMS.
What about the 14.5 mm KPV heavy machine gun? I would love it if some actually did an in-depth analysis of that monster.
KPV was intended for anti-aircraft role, but militants in Middle East decided that it is better to use it against troops and building, just like the Germans with their flak 88mms.
@@lukatomas9465 oh yeah, forgot about that one
i love the PKM!
so this is another awesome Video about his history - thanks to both of you!
Edit:maybe i missed something but did he mentioned the bulpup version of the pkm too?
and a big thx btw for the subtitles ^^
"The developers were dragging their feet." I'm guessing that this was after Stalin died. 😂
A video on this machine gun has been long overdue . I can't believe I stumbled into it on the day it was published . The PKM is my all time favorite GPMG .
I love these interviews with Max.
AS Val and VSS Vintorez would be interesting
@Max Popenker "...make your own machine gun" Actually Poland did, it was the Kbkm wz. 2003, and it was in development after 1996, the UKM-2000 won over that design during trials. Then in 2015 there was another trial and the Negev lost to the UKM-2000P. Let's put this into perspective: The PKM weighs about 7.5kg with a barrel length of 658mm. The Negev NG-7 has a barrel length of 508mm and weighs 7.95 kg. The UKM-2000 has a barrel length of 547mm and weighs 8.4 kg. The UKM-2000P weighs 10kg and has a barrel length of 540mm. From this I can conclude that Poland must REALLY like the PKM even if it's a PKM with feed system borrowed from the MG3 with barrel 10cm less and weighing more by a kg or two even.
Another amazing video 😍 by Max. As an Indian, it's especially interesting to hear his research because our military has traditionally used NATO guns but a lot of Soviet heavy weaponry so it's been interesting here. So for example, we used the FAL until the mid 90s but started switching to the indigenous 5.56 NATO for MBR while still using tonnes of 5.56 and 7.62 Russian, Czech and Bulgarian AKs throughout that period until now given that a quarter of the Indian Army is deployed in Kashmir at any given time. Also, every new regiment being raised has to be raised as a Rashtriya Rifles regiment serving in Kashmir (irrespective of whether it is infantry, armored or artillery....well maybe not artillery🙂🤔🙄) to give them combat exposure while being trained as a unit. I think the combination of that (the mandatory combat exposure in Kashmir with the use of AK instead of the INSAS 5.56) is what has led to the adoption of the AK 203 in 7.62 as the new rifle for the Indian army, with smaller but still substantial numbers of SiGs and M4 derivatives in specialist roles. It's a very interesting time in small arms in the Indian Army and I'd be really psyched if you guys could look at why and how these developments would have happened. The Russians and Indians have cooperated a lot in weapons system development since the fall of the Union because unfortunately the Russian Federation has been in financial quagmires and crises constantly since then as also the fact that we are Russia's largest customer. Could you at least have a looksie at the AK203 in detail since over 700,000 are to be adopted as the main battle rifle for one of the largest armies on the planet....like pretty please🥺????
holy crap, Ian AND Max? Cool!
Its almost like everything Kalashnikov touched is extremely reliable and long lasting
Usualy those designers from which Kalashnikov took almost complete constructions were shot dead and theirs surnames deleeted from existence!
Another great episode with Max!
Please never stop making these
This is brilliant, and I really wish I had the budget for a PKM. The 86 ban SUCKS!
At 19:20 did he say Izhevsk or TsNIITochMash?
Great and informative video as always.
Yes, he said TsNIITochMash.
IzhMash is the factory located in a city called Izhevsk
When command finds out you have been using sniper grade ammo in your pkm but you have been hitting 9/10 of your shots.
Im only 70 seconds in and I can already tell I'm going to thoroughly enjoy this
Excellent as always from Mr. M. Popender.
13:56 Give that thing a couple of handles and Heavy would bring in another cousin for Sasha
I really like these historical videos with guests
As a 240B gunner I always looked at the PKMs weight very jealousy
Awesome resource since very little is available online about the design history of this GPMG.
i would like him to talk about AEK 971/AK 107 with balanced system
Mosin Nagant: NOOOOOO YOU CANT SPRAY 7.62X54
PK: *haha 7.62x54 go brrrrrr*
19:20 it isn't Ижмаш, but ЦНИИТочмаш - Central Scientific - Research Institute for Precision Machine Engineering
32 people have received fire from the almighty PKM.
Man, that Mr. Popenker knows his stuff, loved the video!
Hopefully soon we’ll see a video on the DSHK, VSS, NSV, and other interesting firearms!
Damn good video about a damn good machine gun. Thank you two for putting this out here.