Husband Wants Me To Stay at Home but I Don’t Want To
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Sometimes I hate it, but I actually agree with Dave 100 percent on the call. She is about to Submissive her way into poverty.
I know many Christian wives who ended up homeless and broke single mothers listening and following a foolish man. Being a stay at home mom is also a pathway to poverty.
The internet has so many people (particularly women) completely confused about what “submissive” is. Thank God Dave told her being submissive doesn’t mean going along with stupid.
Respectful cooperation. Unless he says do something against Gods word she should submit. Show me 1 single verse that suggest otherwise. This is modern day convenient feminist christian. I can be shown where I misunderstand if anybody can provide scripture.
@@xclusive40No women should submit to a stupid idiotic controlling broke man.
@@xclusive40Say it louder for the people in the back.
It actually did surprise me
How about stop using religion to women to tell them to be submissive? Of course men love this it benefits them. Marriage is a partnership.
" submissive wife" bs. Glad Dave dealt with that.
@@kimberlygorgoglione9237 The Bible talks about the submissive wife stuff. If you don’t believe in that then it doesn’t apply to you. It’s modern day feminism not the Bible that support what he says. If not I’m ready to learn. I just need 1 verse that says for a wife not to submit under certain circumstances other than the commandments the Bible speaks of.
@@xclusive40 Submission doesn't mean to shut out your brain and agree with foolishness.
@@neisci Submission is respectful cooperation. The definition doesn’t change when you disagree. Where in the Bible or Webster do you see different. It’s convenient feminist Christianity to do anything other than what the Bible says. Please tell me where the Bible describes submission different than what I said
@@xclusive40 it doesn't say for you follow fools either. Where does it say that? Doesn't it warn about false prophets too? Those who present themselves as leaders but have bo business leading? Take care beloved.
@@neisci It says submit to your husband. You just only want to submit when you agree. Too many people will submit to their boss at work before their husband when they disagree. That’s sad and unbiblical
So she quits and his income dwindles to nothing. Great plan.
or his income goes up and it is HIS income and no longer a WE b/c he makes all the money.
I thought the same 😂😂😂
Right and she’s going along with it to be “submissive”. Recipe for disaster.
Seriously she should look into a sitter or seeing if she can work from home a day or two during the week. Or take the kid to work with her or call on friends from church to help out!!
@@markeayers Those are the leaders you are supposed to follow and submit to Lol.
We found ourselves in a similar situation with a 3 month old in March of 2020. Wife was originally going to stay at home then lockdowns came and my well paying job (130-150k) that was 80% commission was deemed essential but there were no customers. So we made the switch, her job as an icu nurse wasn’t going anywhere.
It was tough, she was born early and in the NICU for weeks, came home on oxygen and we had 2 appointments a week at the doctors. You do what needs to be done for your family though. Now it’s 4 years later I’m still a stay at home dad, my wife makes more than I did and she only works 3 days a week. So we get tons of family time, tons of adventures and yeah I guess miss my career but compared to what I have experienced and how much better our marriage is and how great my life has gotten because of my daughter I wouldn’t change a darn thing
That's great
God always works, just rarely how you think. Glad you embraced the calling and your family are reaping the rewards!
You rock!!!!
I worked as a nurse and i cant tell you how many nurses I worked with whose husbands decided to be stay at home dads when they became parents for same reasonss you decided to do so. And this was 30-35 years ago, too when attitudes were far different, but they made it work and it worked out well for them.
You reap what you sow. You and your wife teamed up, had a family-first attitude, and did the hard stuff short term. Congrats on a well lived life!
I'm glad he explained proper submission to a husband. You don't submit to ignorance and irresponsibility women. Submission doesn't mean doormat! Thank you sir.
Sounds like she's the go-getter in the family and hubby not so much. Now hubby wants her to quit her job and this is making her very nervous (and it should).
She makes $55k a year. He has made more than that two of the last three years.
@@yambagnelson9987his income has gone down 30% in the last few years. Time for him to change careers
@yambagnelson9987 It doesn't matter what he made previously. What is he making now? Yes she makes less but her income seems to be more stable and now that she has a child you need more stability than anything. So of course she's nervous. Once she quits he'll be complaining abt all the bills he has to pay by himself.
@@Star0920 It matters to the extent that it should be somewhat representative of what he will make in the future. The downward trend in his earnings is certainly concerning and he should probably look for a new job. However, it sounds like they are ok for money with no debt and I personally think women are much more important and suited (I mean that as a complement) when it comes to raising very small kids. If there is only a $5k difference in what they make and they don't need the money then I think she should stay home if they can afford it.
They should compromise and try it for a trial period of 1-3 years. That'll give him a chance to rebuild his business and her time to bond with HER child. It sounds like she's more concerned with the youth in her ministry than her own child which is her first/primary ministry/calling.
I really hate calling a mother not working as "being a mom". A mom is simply the female parent. A mom is a mom whether she works and is also the primary caregiver, works and dad is the primary caregiver, works and caregiving is equal, doesn't work outside the home and is the primary caregiver, or doesn't work outside the home and isn't the primary caregiver
"Mom" isn't a synonym for homemaker nor does it mean "person with more childcare responsibility".
I wouldn’t call a deadbeat a “dad.” Mothering is what makes you a mom. It’s putting a level of respect on the terms. Obviously you can work and be a mom. You can also stay at home and be neglectful, which doesn’t really make you a mom. But that’s just how I see it. Nowadays you’re just a “birthing person” lol
Submissive is bs no matter what cultural or religious affiliation
Exactly, well said
agree. Thank you.
Husband is overwhelmed with a failing career and having to parent is own child so his solution is to force his wife out of the workplace and into the kitchen so HE can feel better about himself as they continue to sacrifice on his shitty income. He probably feels embarrassed.
It’s said he can’t just be proud of her , be a partner/ Stay at home dad
What drugs are you on?
His income is shitty because he's doing a job that should be 8-9 hours a day and he's only putting in 2 hours a day while he's taking care of the baby. They need to put the kid in day care so he can focus on his business. He thought the business was on auto-pilot until it changed....and now it's not.
@@penguin12902oh well. Her income can support them fully. He can build more slowly and do Dad duty for a while. He’ll be fine. His son will be absolutely better for that time together.
His income already plummeted before the 3 month old existed.
@@joybarber2430 No. It was inconsistent before the child. It dropped significantly after he wasn't able to work because he was raising a child.
It makes me sad that so many women feel like they need to acquiesce to these men because that’s what they are convinced that they need to do . Your a smart rational person making solid money with a good plan .
Get out of here with this submissive crap . Work together make a plan together . Your an adult you don’t have to obey another adult .
It’s fine I know she won’t agree .
Open your Bible.
Women used to obey their husbands biblically speaking... relationships used to last a lifetime. Soon as women started to rebel against that... we now how the current dating market... and divorces at greater then a 50% rate... the number dont lie... its gotten way worse
@@And1one757 husbands are to submit themselves to Jesus first. When did men stop submitting themselves to God? Perhaps that’s the problem. The men are the leaders but they don’t follow their own leader. They want a wife to control and have her submit to them but they don’t want to follow the rest of scripture that says men are to submit and serve the Lord.
@Youwish34 your right, but not for the reason you may think... men have rebelled against god as well... men of today have been complicit in looking at their wives, as partners or equals... man now put themselves on the same level as woman... which is not the order of god... It's supposed to be God, Christ, Man, Woman, Child. When did it happen, since basically the beginning of femenism when woman started leading the household because no man was in the house... Now man have been weakened and brainwashed outta their natural postion... So all that to say man have turned their back on the lord similar to Adam, listening to Eve
I think being submissive is good for a woman but I would be so nervous if my hubby had such an unstable income as the only income..
Her career is providing the family with stability. She can't quit.
But it sounds like she's genuinely doing good in society too.
Her husband doesn't sound supportive. They can get a babysitter for part of the day so it's easier on him.
At the end of the day, even with her husband making less money, he still making more money than his wife. But now he has to take care of a baby while working making more money and you say he doesn't sound supportive? She said they are frugal people and just had their first child. Why can't she work part time and help with the baby instead? If her pay gets cut in half, they would still be making 75k yearly, that should be plenty if they live frugally. Also, do you know how much a babysitter is? If they live frugally, that's out the window. You are basically telling her (who I believe is religious) to have another woman raise her first kid just so she can be happy. The solution is easy in my opinion, she needs to go part-time and help with the kid as well. If the husband was making way less than her, he would be the one having to go part-time.
@@IMBIuethat’s a good point, just working part time. That’s honestly a win, gets to take care of kid and do the job she loves. It would be a little unnerving if my hubbys income was so unpredictable but if they had a lot in savings as they said he through basically all his income into in which that could cover any bad months that would be a bit of a different story.
But he won't be making 75k he will be making 50k..she said that. She makes 65k so how is he making more? At the end of the day he needs to work part time and take care.of the baby and let her keep her steady career.
@@IMBIueI agree they need to come up with some kind of compromise. I suggest she be SAHM for a year or so while husband builds business, then re-evaluate. I also like your solution.
@@folashadeperry1481 her job will likely disappear and not be available again if she's a stay-at-home mom for a year. She's the only one with a stable job right now. His has been declining for 3 years. He should take this moment to do night school, while she's at home and do a new career.
She loves her job. If the husband was making more money she could stay home. But until he get his money right her quitting her job ain’t it
If she wants to. Staying home was the most difficult thing I ever did. Once I started tutoring again it was like clouds parted. My work is my stress outlet and I will never not be working again. She's in her calling. It's miserable to lose that no matter how much you love your kids.
Insurance costs rising in almost every category and his wages go DOWN? WHAT? Time to call out some BS.
The “leads drying up” could be that increase in rates pricing people out of the insurance altogether. Also, there are tons of insurance companies going bankrupt. His partner could also be stealing from him..
@@barnabusdoyle4930or his wife made him the default parent so she could go back to work and now he can't work his leads and doesn't have as much time to find new ones
Unfortunately she is confused as to what she wants & what “submissive” means - that’s not a financial issue 🫤
Being submissive is one thing but why should she submit to an idiot? He needs to get an actual job that is stable and prove himself worthy of leading his family.
Husband and wife are supposed to "submit" to each other. You are equal partners. One does not tell the other what to do. The order is God, Spouse, Children.
@@juicysmith38235 Half the dudes on here use the magic book to keep a woman down like a slave.
@@juicysmith38235The husband is supposed to be the leader do how can there be equal submission?
@@PinkieJoJo Because the magic book says what creeps can use it for.
If you are not at a place where you willingly want to be a stay at home mom, don’t do it. It won’t be good for you or your kiddo.
More like if you are not at a place where you won't be a stay at home mom then don't have a kid. Disgusting how many people hand babies off to someone else to raise because their career is more important to them than taking care of their kids.
@@yambagnelson9987why isn't your response if he doesn't want to be a stay at home Dad, don't be a dad. It takes two to make a baby and two to raise a baby.
And no it's not biological. Actually some of the best most successful children come out of dual dad households. Much better than dual mom households.
Don't judge a mom for not doing what her husband isn't willing to do either.
@@yambagnelson9987 it’s disgusting how this husband demands his wife to quit and hands off baby to the mom to raise because his career is more important to him than taking care of his kid. By the way, the mom is taking care of the kid by bringing the income that pays for the kid to live.
@@shaunas6562 Because one parent needs to stay home and he has consistently made more money than her. If she made more then you may have an argument. That said, I would say a very young child is better off with mom being home. But hey if your point is that women are bad at raising kids have at it.
@@mleobviously He consistently makes more money than her and thus should be the one that works. Her reason for working is some nonsense about being called to the ministry. She cares more about that then being a mom.
"i believe in being a submissive wife"
so cringe
Submissive wife to a wise husband who knows how to lead properly is not cringe worthy whatsoever
@@caliking2x husbands not wise if he thinks he can support a household on 50k.
sounds like a dum-dum husband with an ego problem
@@ryanr8645 Key term "wise husband"
Dad’s being ridiculous if he can’t handle 8 hours of being with 1 3-month old infant. It is rough, believe me, but it gets easier at 6 months and then 12 months and beyond. Hire a nanny or babysitter for a few hours a day maybe if you can’t afford full-time care. That way the parent who is at home that day gets a break to nap or get a workout in or get some self-care and sanity back.
you trust nannies and babysitters in 2024 that aren't family?
The dad works and in most years makes more than her. One person should stay home and it should be the one that makes less.
@@yambagnelson9987 His business is going downhill. The variations in income aren't random. He now earns less than his wife.
@@djtomesonYes....good people at church.
Because that’s not how men are built. Women are meant to care for children for hours on end. That’s just biological.
When people talk about being submissive makes my blood boil 😡. I don't think anybody should submit to anybody. A couple must collaborate, work as a team.
No submission is biblical
Submissive wife? Let me know how that works out in several years down the road. Dave is right, you can’t work from home while caring for a baby.
That's the problem. Not enough women are submissive to their husbands.
@BREEZYM6015 the husband isn't trustworthy to follow. She is stepping up and bringing stability to the family.
@@MB-uy5kh Wife should be home pregnant cooking dinner and cleaning. -Half of The Dolt Guys that listen to Ramsey
@@dudeorduuude5211 And yet he still brings in more than her pretty much every year.
@dudeorduuude5211 he bringing more money in though
you don't have to quit and stay home just because the husband wants you to....he needs to find a backbone
Dude isn’t grinding he’s chilling @ home working half ass
His biblical calling is to be an efficient provider.
Before he reminds her of her biblical calling or forces her to make a choice she does not like he needs to live up to being a real man. Only then can a woman really have a choice to be a fulltime mom. There would be no issue if he did that because it would cause her to agree more freely.
yeah I think part of the problem is that the husband is too dusty. He sounds like one of these "commissioned salesmen" who is basically just marginally employed and with no real skill set.
Her husband is a total loser.
it doesn’t matter. she doesn’t WANT to. him being a provider has nothing to do with her “calling” in ministry.
Love that Dave kept cutting off George whenever he brought up daycare.
They can’t afford it
Yeah these people need to learn more
Because daycare is a last ditch effort that should be avoided
I disagree. Dave should let George finish speaking and not cut him off. Give your opinion after the other is done speaking. It's common courtesy.
That could run about $200 per week for an infant here in Florida 🤦🏽♀️
Thank you Dave! Wives are partners not slaves
She scared he can’t provide that’s the real question more than her loving her job and not wanting to give up her career and if I were her I’d feel the same something isn’t right
She sounds like she's afraid of her husband.
yes. Stupid religious crap plus a loser husband.
She said she wants to be submissive and honor his husband.
Dave's clarification was epic
Dave is 100% correct. If this man can’t deal for a few days with a screaming child, then why are you a parent? She’s the main breadwinner, buddy sounds lazy.
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She needs to hold her ground and not quit. What is he going to do divorce her?
Not religious but I love Dave’s take on this!!!!
it's sweet that she wants to be a "submissive wife" but that won't buy her a pass on math. Her husband makes half of what he used to but he wants her to be a SAHM? He doesn't want to take care of the baby, but he doesn't want to get a stable occupation either. How is this supposed to work exactly.
That sounds more like variable profit, not a commission.
I think she meant getting 50k as of now. That’s now saying the whole year
She refers to her family as frugal, minimalists...lady you're slowly going broke and making justifications. Husband needs to find better paying work and they need to work out a childcare arrangement so she can continue with her career which she loves. This submissive wife BS has her so mixed up, and sounds like she it smart enough to be cognizant of it, but scared to put her foot down.
She is a submissive wife but they are also a partnership? A partnership where he tells her to quit?
Clearly not.
So she must quit her job to make no money and he barely makes anything so he wants to bring them down a sinking ship
It’s like the dude who didn’t want to evacuate and ended up dying the women made it because she chose to follow her instincts.
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Don't get anyone pregnant nor have a child if you don't want to actually PARTICIPATE in parenthood.
Parenthood is more than just bringing in income.
It's a CONSCIOUS decision to participate in ALL of the daily things that being a parent (not a babysitter) brings....not just the cute smiles/giggles and this 'leaving a legacy' soundbite that some folks mention when it comes to parenthood.
Parenthood is also the tantrums, sleepless nights, doctor's appointments, caring for a child through sickness, etc.
In this case, he shouldn't make an impulsive request to tell his wife to quit her job, because THEIR CHILD was screaming all day...so what, that's what children do sometimes. Learn how to parent through these circumstances...not push the responsibility on your wife because she's 'submissive'.
Frustration, anger and moments of 'WTF does this child want' are normal for all parents---but you push through them and keep it moving.
Planning for your wife to leave her job requires just that...A PLAN.
They've done an amazing job to reach a point of debt fredom and don't need a financial set back because he's frustrated with being a dad.
She was ready to argue that she shouldn't quit until Dave told her to keep her job. Then her tune changed.
These callers need to figure out what they actually want before taking life-altering action
Maybe she was trying to set him up for the enjoyment of all the “Dave Bad” people
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My wife stays home with my son and I told her she can go back to work whenever she wanted to but the thing was I told her was I’m not putting my son in daycare because of all the crap I’ve ever seen when I grew up with a sitter. I had one good lady with 3 other kids when I was younger but that was one time in my life. Everything else I’ve ever seen is expensive as hell. So the stay at home option is going to work in my home for at least a couple years and my wife understands this. I work two jobs and still take care of my son. Im blessed with parents that help out now and then but Sometimes you just just have to take the ass chewing that life gives you sometimes and endure.
I really don't know why Dave has co-hosts, if he is not going to let George speak then host the show by yourself and let him co-host with the others. Dave was so rude here, even if he didn't want to to hear about day-care there was no need to constantly cut George off, speak over him and disregard his input. Dave is supposed to be a Christian but is very rude and disrespectful to his co-hosts, this is not the way to treat people, he would be better off without a sidekick as he does this many times.
I think he does it most to Ken 😂
Yep, especially Ken😊
He bullies the hell out of Kamel, it's really disgusting. I think John is a bully, too, which is probably why Dave NEVER disrespects John because they are simpatico.
@@cynthiaborden4209 Ken is the least confident white male so is a doormat. He rarely cuts off women.
I agree just go back to hosting it by himself if he's not going to let them speak. Are they should at least set some sort of time arrangement where the co-hosts speak for the first 2 minutes and Dave speak for the last two
"They decided to structure the company in a different direction". Well he is now making 50K less a year so I don't think the "different direction" was a total mistake. Who made that decision? And now he wants her to quit her job?
This whole call is just stupid. Why call them for this. It’s not a financial issue - it is a marriage issue.
Call a marriage counselor.
And Dave… yikes. Part way through the call you flip a switch and it’s like this man, who we have no idea what or how he actually said what he said, is attacking your daughters and their decision to be working moms…
Sheesh.
Sounds like the insurance business isn't that demanding and that it can turn into a secondary hustle while he goes to find a new "primary".. Starting at least with 30k... that should guarantee him at least 50k a year.. scale yourself from there.
Sometimes the hours you put into that new work and demand takes away from the insurance.
“ what’s wrong with putting your child in daycare?” Dude have you seen daycare lately? Their petri dishes and your child is going to come home with every virus under the sun. Get a nanny if you’re stressed out.
Nothing wrong with daycare
I agree. Daycare is a disaster.
Ummm... the "petri dish" issue is not a "today issue"... its simply always been that way 😅
I always thought it odd to give birth to child just to hand over immediately to strangers to raise.
Depends, I loved our daycare and the teachers there. I don’t like the idea of a nanny. My kids were sick a lot the first winter but it was fine after that. Then my boys didnt miss one day of kindergarten due to sickness so that was cool.
Husband and wife are supposed to "submit" to each other. You are equal partners. One does not tell the other what to do. The order is God, Spouse, Children. Good luck ma'am 🙏
Nope. That is not what the Bible says. Ephesians 5:22-33
@@tjbalisticand right above that it says submit to one another in verse 21. Verses 22-33 describe the ways in which husbands and wives need to work on this in Ephesus. Given that Ephesus had the Diana cult that was so pervasive, I don’t find it hard to believe that marriages were struggling.
And, if you look at the advice given in 22-33, it describes a pretty common marriage problem. Wife loves husband but struggles to respect him. Husband respects wife but struggles to love her. It’s literally the marriage dynamic of every 90s sitcom.
@@tjbalisticyou should study the bible more
No one ever talks about the men submitting to Jesus first
Years ago, Michele Bachmann said she was submissive to her husband. That pretty much killed her presidential campaign.
Insurance companies are leaving Florida. I won't be surprised if his income goes down even more. Her quitting would be the dumbest decision they could make.
I hate it when people try to use religion to justify their doucheness.
Yeah, how dare they believe in something you disagree with.
@@evr0.904 the thing is the men don’t actually follow what they claim to believe in. How many times do they pray? Read the Bible? Submit to Jesus? Fast for their family?
@@Youwish34 And your evidence is... opinion? There are plenty of men that do believe what they claim. There are plenty that don't, sure, but that doesn't invalidate the religion.
Living with 1 income is not possible anymore unless 1 income is 200k+,its just tough
And YES, u can 100% take care of a baby working from home, it might compromises a little on your productivity but it would work
You're delusional.
My husband makes $70k/year and I stay at home comfortably. You don’t have to make very much to have a 1 income family, you just have to be smart about where you choose to live.
@@katet_33 i am not living in the middle of no where, thats not living, thats surviving
@@johndone8045 Do some research. I don't live in the middle of nowhere.
this marriage is in big trouble and this husband is emotionally immature. He’s reacting to his day by blaming her.
So after she quits then she is trapped. He has full control and her choices become fewer. 🤦🏾
Not true. She can always find another job.
@@hope4allisbest553 - Hmmm…🤔 She needs to work on her relationship before it gets uglier.
My wife makes more (about 35%) than I do so I switched to part-time to homeschool our kids.
I would love for her to be able to stay home. I was not interested in making money until we started having kids and I'm paying for that choice now.
This call was a mess.
We’ve all been the mom crying over the kids…welcome to being a parent in the home. It is exhausting. Moms are told to just deal with this.
She sounds super sweet but being a submissive wife doesn’t mean doing stupid stuff because hubs wants it lol. He is right though. HE needs to go to work and make the money while she does her calling on the side. I’d still make him stay with baby multiple times a month though to build that relationship and honestly a tolerance to the mania
I loved so much Dave in this call. ❤
My husband asked me to quit my job after our 2nd son was born to care for our children. I did so, and shortly thereafter, his boss laid him off. We had a lean year where I went for foodstamps, and he worked for a temp agency. BUT The Lord provided. After a year, he found a permanent position and we went off food stamps. This was the beginning of seeing the Lord work in our lives. Sometimes, you need to take a step of faith. She said they lived frugally, had little debt, but her husband was going through a rough patch in his job. I know they can make it because we walked the same path. Take a step of faith and watch the Lord work! You won't be sorry.
My wife and I both worked with kids. Hubby needs a better job or needs to work more. Daycare only lasts a few years and then the kids are in school.
The question here is: If his income was more than enough, would Dave agree with the husband to have her stay at home or continue working? Keep in mind, if the woman wanted to be a SAHM but the husband wanted her to work, Dave would say that the husband is wrong and that she should stay at home. Is this simply a matter of appeasing what the woman wants to do? Or is this about having the man work and the woman take care of the home when possible? If it’s about appeasing what the woman wants to do, then what about the man? Should he get to do what he wants as well (including not work)?
Yes. I've said this on many other videos, but Dave only uses the Bible when it's convenient and ignores it when it's not.
Dave has to be fair here. No adult simply gets to do what they want, they must work in the best interest of the family. Sometimes that means working or sometimes it means staying home to care for the children
@@SonOfMan-YT He's not being fair. Thanks for highlighting Dave's hypocrisy.
to you I say... Suze Orman is no longer on the air but she gave excellent financial advice to women. Not saying Dave doesn't but always get more than one opinion
Dont wanna quit? Too bad. Your boss has given you an order.
Sounds like people aren’t buying whole life anymore with the higher commissions.
Thanks for this answer, Dave ❤
WTF - Husband cant cope with his child, so wife has to quit her job. I would never quit my job based on -----my spouse saying I cant parent !!!!
Rule number one in life:
Never, ever, ever, ever allow yourself to become financially dependent on another person. This guys just doesn’t want to be home with the kid. Daycare is an option, so are babysitters and so is manning up and taking care of the kid while the actual stable income works.
Advice like this is what ruins marriages. Good job.
@@evr0.904 Advice like, don’t let your spouse convince you to quit your job, ruins marriages? So you would rather the spouse have no financial resources of their own and have the working spouse hold all of the leverage in the relationship? How many stay at home parents nowadays are kicked to the curb and pushed out into the world with years of no working experience and no career opportunities because they took your advice instead?
@@barnabusdoyle4930 The number of ruined families because women chose their career over their children dwarfs those who decided to forego a career and were financially abused in the process. It's not even close.
@@evr0.904 If your statistics go back 100 years, before women going into the workforce was commonplace, you are absolutely correct. If you look at the past 30 years, much more in line with our current society, there are millions of examples of 2 income households with completely well raised children just inside of the US. When I say millions, I mean hundreds of millions. You are wrong in every aspect of your argument. Just the number of stay at home parents in this country are barely 5% of the population, where dual working parents make up around 95% of the population.
@@barnabusdoyle4930 So you mean if you account for the two different lifestyles we've experienced the last 100 years and don't cherry pick the data to prove your point? Interesting.
All of what you're saying proves (1) you literally know nothing about this subject and (2) any argument you do manage to make with real data supports my argument. Thanks for trying.
Sorry we didn't get to hear anything you wanted to say George.
oh my god, this lady has a sad life, due to her delusional beliefs
He wants her to quit so he can quit being a parent...poor guy can't cope with a crying child...seems like he's not up to a lot of things...she could easily go it alone
How tragic to put your own child into daycare to minister to other children, so that later your child can have that same brokenness and need that same ministry. Daycare began as a last ditch option for single moms, and it’s sad how our culture has normalized it. She can be part of the ministry at a different time of life, that baby needs time with mom right now, even more than time with dad.
They could live on his salary, even if it’s ranging down to 50k.
I love George, but he needs to stop it with promoting daycare. Working is not for mothers while their children are that age. Children should not have to go to daycare. I and my brother were in daycare for a while after my mother tragically died at 32. So my dad was doing the best he could with what he had. But it shouldn’t be the normal thing. You have your whole life to work at jobs, but not during this special bonding time that little children need with their mamas.
Listen to Suzanne Venker about daycare and this special time mamas have with babies that never comes back if you have grown up in this millennial era where daycare has become the norm and it sounds offensive to you or politically incorrect to hear that daycare is a last ditch thing because it feels comfortable to you. If you love your job, you can go back. The Proverbs 31 woman describes a lot of things, but that doesn’t mean everything is all at once, in the same stage of life. There will be a time you can work a job again, but give yourself and your child the gift of these vital years, you can give other years to a job. Companies try to get women to give the prime of their life and health to the job and their worst and exhaustion to their families - don’t fall for it.
@@garlandofbooks4494 I agree totally. People call it offensive to believe that mama should be the sole caretaker but they’ve listened and heard your voice for 9 months. They know your smell. They know your warmth.
To magically snap a finger and make the a dad a responsible and patient parent ain’t gonna happen overnight.
But the irony of taking care and ministering to others children as your child may need the same later is a little backwards.
The growth of a child isn’t always about money but bonding is super important.
Totally agree, I did put my 2 older daughters in daycare so I can go to cosmetology school, my youngest was able to speak ( in case she needed to disclose something to me) The people for the most part were nice but the director was very hot-headed. But as the years past and I had another child all of my kids were in public and chartet schools ( but I was being drawn by the Lord to homeschool for many reasons). I must share with you, that the bond with my last child, is amazing bc he tells me things most young men wouldn't say to their moms. But I now SEE the craziness of the public school gradual push with liberally woke ideology, the feminist movement, and how stay at home mom are shamed and looked down upon in today society. But when one gets a perspective and see the whole picture of how many hours OTHER people have YOUR children for 6-8 and some 9 hours a day, and how many hours the working mom ( that does not stay home but leaves the home to go to work) have with their kids..its crazy...same thing with daycare little babies needs to be cared by their mommas, not some other stranger. I am aware of single moms and how difficult this is for them, but it is not impossible. God will make a way. Im a grandma of 6 now, I babysit for one of my daughters and IF she allowed me, I would homeschool her two little ones, bc I know what craziness happens in daycare centers and in the public, charter, and even private school system.
Your purpose as a wife and mom is to be happy. Dear god. Lady stop making excuses😮
If the man is the head of the household that means he takes care of his family without demanding things of his spouse. Put your big boy pants on dude.
This calls for a good old-fashioned "You're not the boss of me."
Followed by opening the Bible to see you're wrong.
@@evr0.904no one cares about a make believe book
She wants the drama of the work place. If he demanded she work she'd demand she wants to quit. Soon as the said he should quit she backtracked real quick and had a line at the ready. Lol that call went left on her, notice that?
Don't pretend to know she's into the drama. Listen to her voice. She doesn't want to quit and get only reason for considering it is because she loves her husband that much she's considering his wishes above her own.
Some of us really do have callings in life. I also work with youth and it it's the thing that keeps me sane. I would go to work for free if I could afford it. I get depressed if I'm not working and teaching the kids.
Because he's a boring loser. She needs action at the end of and during her day.
from a father of 8... get a real man. One that can take care of the child HE helped you make.
A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels: - Proverbs 1:5 Furthermore, if I had a good wife, I'd want her to raise concerns. She deserves a proper husband.
You need to quit your job.
No dude. WE made this baby and now WE support it. I'm working. Get tf over it or move out
And shut it with the purpose being a wife and mom. You mean more than being a baby mama. If you like work, work.
How is the guy making less income comparable to someone doing cocaine? That's dumb and not a good comparison. The wife is a good wife because being submissive means sometimes doing things you don't want to do. While financially it's not a good idea to quit her job, her telling her husband "No you need to get a better job and I'm not going to quit" will certainly cause relationship problems. What is the roles were reversed? What if she wants to quit and her husband said "no you better keep working". Then y'all would call him a jerk.
Be a mother to your child. It's the most important job in the world. You are raising a human. As an adult who grew up with 3 other siblings and absent parents, we raised ourselves. I don't recommend it. Children need love, nurturing, and stability. They need a happy loving home.
Exactly. the ministry can wait a few years. Sticking kids in daycare should be an absolute last resort.
Chup be
no, he should be a father to his child and stay home
@@christianakungu6344 Well, if you say so, it must be true.
So a dad can’t provide all that. Wow weren’t we screaming that dads matter not that long ago. Now all dads have to do is just work a job? They can’t provide a loving safe home /environment ? Hmmm interesting. Seems like you all know more about the true nature of men.
Her husband needs to step up and be a father. He hit it raw, didn't have second thoughts, and now, he needs to take accountability.
Completely incorrect. I’ve worked at home with babies for many years. Started with a new client 2 weeks after I gave birth to my 5th. It was a marketing agency that was very happy with my work.
Yes, it’s better to work less than 100% hours if you don’t hire help.
This tells you what a lot about her ministry. Preaching "you can't have it all" to impressionable young women.
It seems like some of these instances in which husbands demand their wives to not work anymore tend to come right after these men have spent one terrible day taking care of their own child.
Hey, they "placed the order". Now they have to deal with the things that come up after the "delivery". Shouldn't be only the mom who has to deal with rough days with the kid. Maybe they'll think twice about "placing those orders" when they're home dealing with the results.
Sounds like he’s wants a Trad lifestyle and she doesn’t have enough world experience to notice the dangers ahead.
The danger of traditionalism. You mean when everything was better?
@@evr0.904Better for whom? You mean when women had no rights and were basically slaves to their husbands? No thanks.
Submission does not mean follow blind
Income is not sporadic, it’s erratic.
In this case she should take this up with the Lord. Just because he's telling her to do something doesn't mean it's the right thing to do.
If he's right the Lord would talk to her or if he's wrong the Lord will talk to him and also give them the solution to this issue.
People use the Bible for the wife submission passages but also forget that the man should be submitted under the Lord.
It's supposed to be man submitted under God, women submitted under man and child submitted under women
Why does this lady sound confused every time she answers a question? At the end of every statement, she has an upward inflection in her voice.
I dont think she should quit her job. Id get it if the husband said to quit because she was complaining about work every day, and it's on par with auschwitz, and it's miserable at work, but she seems to enjoy her job. I think the husband should change his job so he has more predictable income.
She sounds like that because she knows her husband is full of **it but she has to play the part of a dutiful submissive wife 🙄
Why do Christian women say they are “submissive” but want to be career woman? That’s just weird to me. Get a nanny to be in the home, so dad can work.
She said , these teens need me, but doesn’t think her child needs her?? Wow… maybe her calling was not to be a wife and mother!
Exactly, lol
Proverbs 31 woman was a submissive wife who also worked. The two can coexist
@@j.j2846Keep reading the Bible. Her priority is to her home and children.
@@evr0.904 Of course. I never said that home and children wasn't her priority
@@j.j2846 Read the room. This woman wants to prioritize her career in ministry (which is a whole separate argument) over her family.
I'm surprised they didn't ask if there was any family who could help. Once or twice a week my mother takes care of her great-grandchildren while their mother and father are working. And my nephew often works from home. Has an office, comes down for lunch with the kid(s), and goes back up to the office for the rest of the day. Even once or twice, for one or two kids at a time, saves them a fortune in daycare costs!
It sounds to me. She’s been watching some toxic content on TikTok, Instagram, and TH-cam just based off of a few buzz words she said.
Her husband needs to get a better job that pays a decent, STABLE salary. Then Mom can be a mom and continue in youth ministry.
If he said she has to quit because he can’t handle the baby on his own that is a poor excuse. If he said she has to quit because he can’t handle the baby on own while working without negatively impacting his income it’s actually a fair point imo. I really do think Dave was onto something when he seemed to realize the husbands income failed when he became a stay at home dad working during that time but he got off track. Would be interesting what husband would have to say.
The way I understand biblical submission is that when we submit to our husband we are submitting to God because the husband is the head/leader. We are called to submitting except for into sin. We should not submit if it's sin
I end every sentence with a question?
Doesn't her ministry have a daycare?
She could find a different job that’s less hours, less stress, and probably the same amount of money (since ministry typically doesn’t pay well). She can find more time to be a wife and a mom with a different job.
Being biblically submissive means that both people start with submitting to God. It is crazy how many people who are in ministry still don’t understand the concept. And after reading the comments, people are still struggling. As a wife, if there is a conflict they can’t resolve, then her job is to go to God. He knows how to deal with her and her husband.
When you get married the wife/mother SHOULD stay home with the child. It's God's way...nature's way. If you can't afford to do this you have no business getting married. The child should not suffer b/c it's adult parents want to have sex. If the hubby doesn't have stable income with his current job, get a new one. Also, no reason why the wife can't do a part time gig at the house per Proverbs 31. God bless~