1. A boss who values you will find a way to promote you. If they dont, or cite HR promotion cycles etc., they dont intend to and like dangling the carrot and exploiting you for your skills and competence. 2. Playing petty politics always seems to work. Corporate offices are toxic cesspools. Straightforward, honest employees rarely move up. 3. Similarly, employees who are very intelligent aren't going to move up either, because leadership prefers subservient, sycophantic mediocrity.
I was promised to be promoted after a year of working in a position that I really don't want. It has been over a year. I do very well in that position, but I'm ready to be promoted. Don't know why they are taking so long, but I'm going to give them until the end of February, then I'm going to start looking for the position that I want at another employer. I might even bring litigation later on.
98% of the time all that matters is how you make them "feel". If they like having you around, you will be rewarded, if they don't, you won't - regardless of whether you are the best employee on the payroll.
Sometimes the problem isn't you, it's the boss. Boss's have biases, and one I had was apparently clueless about how bad his were. The worst ones were he only promoted people that were his approximate age, and he only promoted people that had the stereotypical look people associate with success. Are you tall, full head of hair, and slender? Congrats, you've been given the secret promotion nobody else even knew was available. Ten years older, only 6', and male pattern baldness? Well, gee, even though you are LITERALLY DOING THE WORK OF THREE PEOPLE, there's no reason to give you that bump in pay grade even though they hand them out like candy at the other facilities.
So essentially all you had to do was get fit, shave your head, whiten your teeth, and improve your social status?! I would have fleeced that manager for every red cent he was worth... lol
@@astrobot702 There was nothing wrong with my teeth or social status. 😆 Ironically, what also really irked the guy was that despite being a decade older, I had less gray hair than he did.
@@nolongeramused8135 the it's a loose loose situation it's the same thing at my company but it's not just looks they hate on if your educated and experienced and attractive your still public enemy number 1
I was passed over for promotion because I became irreplaceable in my role. So, I am now dumping all the work to my potential successor and am making sure my boss knows about it.
This is precisely my situation as of today. I am doing exactly this in response. The people I trained were promoted to my position, so I am only ever going to do what they do unless promoted. Not training anyone ever again because clearly I'm nothing special.
This happened to me last week! I was overlooked for a promotion as they had no one that could do my role and gave me some bs excuse as to why I wasn't even shortlisted for an interview. My response, I handed in my resignation that evening and looking to do something else. I'm so pissed off that I may even start my own business in the same sector as the role I'm about to vacate
Working and having a career in the U.S. is like never having graduated from high school. The same petty and ridiculous games are being played and being in the right clique and how popular you are will unfortunately determine a big part of your success.
I find that my biggest flaw is that my personality doesn't fit what they are looking for. Being an introvert is a major downfall when it comes to promotions. Even though I went back and got a graduate degree I have lost out to other employees that were less educated and credentialed. My reviews go something like 5/5 Engineering skills and maybe a 3/5 communication skills. I'll try taking your advice and try working on my conversation skills and hopefully upper MGMT finds me more relatable.
You will never move up until somebody who used to be "you" becomes your boss. And that will only work if that person takes a genuine role as your mentor. You are screwed for life.
I feel ya brother. It’s frustrating seeing people that are clearly less intelligent than you get promoted over you. Mainly just because they are funny and outgoing.
Learn to fake it. I'm a total introvert and I HATE small talk. But, my peers, bosses, and reports wouldn't believe anyone who said that I was. Typically you know when an extrovert would say something, don't you? In my head, I just say "fuq it", open my mouth, and start talking. Don't worry about being awkward. The way I see it, nobody is going to remember the random thing I said or did in 48 hours anyway. So, even if what you say doesn't come out exactly right, it doesn't matter. Plus, the more you talk, the more you'll figure out the right things to say. If your employer has a mentorship program, jump into it. If you get an opportunity to communicate with higher-ups, take it. You want VISIBLE projects that put you out in front of leadership, even if they're not the most important projects. Your best chance at a promotion is if everybody knows who you are and somebody in management likes you. That's WAY more important than a graduate degree.
The answer to all this is: start a business, because being an employee absolutely sucks, no matter how you view it, unless you get a lucky break or are wired in a way that causes you to look and act like something they like, usually having little to do with merit. BTW, if they can fire you without a successor (and they can), then they can promote you without a successor. If they want to do it, they'll do it. The "successor" theory sounds like more of an excuse.
1. Identify your successors. I did all of them have been promoted higher than me. 2. Helping with the bigger picture. Have done that and just get the workload dumped on me. When trying to get involved often times, I'm scolded for trying to help.
there is no secret to this. it's unfair practice based on boss liking and lack of understanding and small vision. thats why no one ever should have one job to rely on. you become a king once the job knows you don't care about it too much.
The bonus applies to me perfectly. I am tendering my resignation tomorrow for a position at a competitor. I'm irreplaceable and have been promised advancement for years.
My company gives me great reviews and decent pay rises year after year. But its a small company where i report to one of the directors, so there is no promotion on the horizon unless a position is invented. Having said that, its sad to see that 5 managers have left in 3 years and not a single person has been officially promoted.
I started saying no to things outside of my job. If I get fired, I am not sure I care. I am not trying to get promoted. I just want to do the job I am paid to do. nothing more.
Depends on the industry as well. I work in factories. I In manufacturing promotions are very rare, even if there is an opening and you meet the requirements. You generally have to upgrade your skills outside of work and going elsewhere.
Told them for 3 years where I want to go again zero nothing, left unpromoted so , again where is the problem ?! All three I did and been overlooked 5x in 5 years !?!?! Other teams are saying I should be higher by now , but my boss doesnt care
If you have to choose between being irreplaceable and promote-able pick irreplaceable all day. Be direct with your boss letting him/her know that the promotion "ship has sailed" for you at the company and don't give any further details. Let them constantly worry about the day you submit your resignation letter whether it happens or not. Learn to say no occasionally even if it's not in your nature. Leave the office early everyday and live your life.
I'm going to stop right here because red flags go up that you're okay working for a boss who is not doing what they should be doing. If you're ready to move up, a good boss is aware of it and finds the replacement for your silver position so he can get you taking home gold. A bad boss sits in their office, ignoring everything like a god who has lost its passion, waiting to see if you're clever enough to do their job for them, and only letting you past the gates if you should shine three times brighter than they do. Given the opportunity, by the way, please get rid of the piece of clay who stood between you and your destiny. Eesh. And don't listen to somebody who tells you to work for an idiot. There's not much profit in it.
It took me 8 1/2 years to finally get promoted after working too hard and too long to get full time work, being Asian they make you work twice as hard to get promotions and even rewards.
Team , I just wanted to share that even if you don't the promotion, you should absorb all the experience and knowledge you can to maximixe your CV or Resume which can get you twice the level of promotion , never get discouraged.
That was reason why l turn down the new job down. The Technical department would only contain the Technical Manager and the Technical Supervisor......the Technical Manager is the daughter of the owner!
Thats not a smart idea for companies because I already told my boss that if i dont get a raise or promotion theyll have to replace me because im leaving if i had a company and a key employee whos a high performer said hes leaving i would negotiate immediately this is the employee covering weekends coming in on snow days and covering vacations you have to be a idiot to get rid of that employee.
I made an effort by telling my manager, and one of the engineers I wanted to learn more about some of the technology they are using. I told them I am studying for similar tech and want to learn, they never really made any effort or attempt to show me anything. Whatever, that makes me feel like leaving for an employer where I can learn more instead.
I was the obvious pick, however I'm pretty irreplaceable. I'm not a stagnant guy either (so of course my plan for growth was very stringent.) They went with the 'safe' bet that is not as ambitious and will stay in that position for a least a year (that's if she doesn't quit and job hop to take another job because she has a big title on her resume now.) Sometimes it's better to dodge a bullet than to take the bullet. So when it comes back to you, you'll have the flexibility of saying 'NO.'
4 years working and I just realize I have no salary increment, juniors passed me by getting promotions, because of my irreplacable thingys 😂🤣😂 thanks for valuable content 🙏🙌
This video could have started and ended with #3. If your boss/manager/whatever has not put together a written plan that details all that you must accomplish to be promoted, you have not accomplished those items, and the two of you have not sat down together to jointly prepare the justification that will be presented to HR and senior management - you are not getting promoted. Your promotion is not even in consideration, let alone budgeted if not planned a year in advance.
Hey Billy, If there's not a plan for your promotion I agree that it's a red flag. This could also be an opportunity to create one for yourself and share with your manager .. a bold and proactive move!
@@benfanning1 - Yes, I agree, but... You still need that manager to actually drive the process. In my own situation, I had a documented plan and exceeded all deliverables. The manager that I was working with submitted the paperwork for a promotion just as he was leaving for a new job. His boss, and the new manager, did not pursue the promotion. Not for me or anyone else on the team. Three years later, nobody on the team has been promoted except that new manager. Needless to say, there is now a wave of resignations as people are moving on now that the market is better post-pandemic.
@@billybeemus3929 That's must have been incredibly disappointing. Sounds like the company could be preparing to make some strategic shifts or could be under a lot of financial pressure that would prevent them from promoting. Might be a good chance to have business-level discussion on where the company is headed.
Sir I'm working in a retail chain since 7 years as an Accounts And Inventory Auditor my work and efficiency is much better than others,all knows that including my MD but no one giving me promotion where as other companies offering higher post with high packages. I'm emotionally attached with my current company.
Funnily, in January the director asked all of us to give one suggestion that we think can improve the company. I was the only one that said progression pathways as it at least sets key goals for employees to achieve to know they're on the right track. I've not heard anything back other than "that's a good and fair suggestion" Naturally, I'm planning my exit as I'm sick of having all the work dumped on me with zero recognition while my manager claims to be working on monthly estimates for the third week running.
The recruiters are very biased on who they select even for people who are qualified, they should all be fired, this is why we have issues in our hiring system because we have idiots doing the interviews
Here’s the simple skinny on this: In order to get promoted, you first need to be a “key employee”, meaning highly valued by your superiors enough that they want to ensure not only that you stick around, but are happy to do so with regards to your salary and status within the company. Note that your work quality is only tangentially related to whether you’re a “key employee”; it can range from excellent or mediocre, especially since your work quality isn’t the primary factor that determines whether you’re a “key employee” or not. Roughly, it’s based on how much they like you and how “alpha” they deem you. It’s basically a popularity contest. So then, how do you know whether or not you’re a “key employee”? Very easily, in fact. Here is how: If you don’t know, then you’re not one. Companies make sure to let “key employees” know in no uncertain terms that they are ones both by their words and by their actions. If you are a “key employee” at your company, you already know it, and if you don’t, then I’m sorry to inform you that you’re not one.
i think this video will help me make a decision, the visibility aspect especially, i believe this video is not about what to do, its about what happens if you do A or B or Z and thats a conversation only you can answer yourself
Promotion does not mean that we are going to do different job. We can be promoted doing exactly the same job, just change the title and, of course, more money!!! All of your points are incorrect, if we are loved, we can do nothing and we will still get a promotion.
The irreplacable concept and not promoting an employee because he is so good at what he does, eaning its a high capability and high commitment employee. Because that kind of employee is like that because he wants to excel and get promoted, because he want a higher income. So if you keep it down there doing it, eventually he will get frustrated and will quit, so the irreplacable employee concept is dumb and short term vision. In an organization you have 4 kinds of employee. 1.-Low capability, low commitment, those need to be fired righ away. 2.- High capability and low commitment, those guys can be worked out, by challenging them to keep them producing. 3 Low capability and high commitment, this guys can be trained and mentored to optimize their skills and perform better. 4.-High capability and High commitment, these guys need to be leaders, because all the other guys will allways go th this king of guy to ask for questions, mentorship. Normally Guys types 2 & 3 are around 70-80% of the team.
It's extremely dumb. What I have found out over my time working is that the majority of managers/supervisors don't actually know how to pick employees. When they get a good one they just got lucky. I noticed this with my recent boss. 2 of the three people I started with were good/decent hires. When those two moved out of state, the next two were good as well. Then he hires someone from another branch, and that person is TERRIBLE. And he refuse to properly discipline them. It's truly amazing. All respect loss. At the end of the day, most organizations now thrive on mediocrity. It's completely disgusting.
lol basically do all the right things so you can get passed over again for the favorite ..... and keep doing that over and over again until the people above you are very rich....
I never got promoted with my current company with over 10 years of experience and a masters degree. I applied to over 100 internal jobs all of which I qualified for, not 1 interview at all. I’ll soon be resigning from that position
Sir I'm working in a retail chain since 7 years as an Accounts And Inventory Auditor my work and efficiency is much better than others,all knows that including my MD but no one giving me promotion where as other companies offering higher post with high packages. I'm emotionally attached with my current company.
I spent 7 years in a position with a previous employer. Management sent me a letter telling me I wasn't promotable because I was too valuable in my current role. So, I left the company. 4 years later, my annual pay has TRIPLED from that role. You may be emotionally attached to your current company, but the company IS NOT emotionally attached to you. You may smile at your coworkers and boss and joke around, but they ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. You could get laid off tomorrow, and nearly all of them will forget you exist almost immediately. Believe me when I tell you that you will never even hear from these people again. You don't owe your employer ANYTHING. It's your career. You're the captain of your own ship and the only one that really cares about how far you advance. Update your resume and start interviewing immediately. Get what you're worth.
The people who do things well will continue to do things. Those who can't do those things will be on top to manage the people who are doing things well 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
The problem with this video, as with so many of these types of videos, is that the company and management is never wrong -- it's always your fault. I get the impression that these videos always spin this to off the blame on the employee so that companies that see the video will like it, and give him/her/other gen a contract, versus faulting the company and taking the side of the employee does not have that big financial upside.
This is promotion for a corporate hype man. Individuals get paid to come tell employees what they need to do better to make the executive team feel good.
Just quit go to company that will promote you jist doing it tomorrow bye bye old company you sure will miss me as my team already told me dont you dare quitting.... so I just did. Sorry team mates and other teams now I dont know who you will go to with questions .... byebyebyebye
Why should I identify a successor, they are not paying me extra to find another person. What you think people are doing to do that for free and break their back just the please the boss who doesn’t want to lift a finger with the successor?
Absolutely not! I am talking from experience. If you do not get promoted in 3 years of joining the company, you should jump unless their is a personal reason. Also do not wait for performance appraisal. With no ambiguity you should mention in your first year that you wish to be promoted in 2 years.
Don’t listen to this fool, everything he says is having the worker break their back and not getting paid extra for a successor, he is one of those Bootlicker’s in the office, he’s more concerned about likes on his channel 👎
Who keep tamping with my phone enough is enough ,and respect is respect . In order to get respect you have to earn it ! What ever God has for me it is for me. It's in God's hands. God has the latest say ! Now I'm asking you kindly erase, delete all not so I mean al of the zodiac sign from my phone .I really respect every one but when you start how some was talking advance of .that just let me know that you need healing as well as some consulting. Please remove all of you from my phone , thank you!
I learned to stop trying to get promoted, and certainly don't give ideas that will help the company
Smart.
Smart
1. A boss who values you will find a way to promote you. If they dont, or cite HR promotion cycles etc., they dont intend to and like dangling the carrot and exploiting you for your skills and competence.
2. Playing petty politics always seems to work. Corporate offices are toxic cesspools. Straightforward, honest employees rarely move up.
3. Similarly, employees who are very intelligent aren't going to move up either, because leadership prefers subservient, sycophantic mediocrity.
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You hit right on the head.
NO. 100% NEVER will a BOSS promote his best slaves
I was promised to be promoted after a year of working in a position that I really don't want. It has been over a year. I do very well in that position, but I'm ready to be promoted. Don't know why they are taking so long, but I'm going to give them until the end of February, then I'm going to start looking for the position that I want at another employer. I might even bring litigation later on.
98% of the time all that matters is how you make them "feel". If they like having you around, you will be rewarded, if they don't, you won't - regardless of whether you are the best employee on the payroll.
Sometimes the problem isn't you, it's the boss. Boss's have biases, and one I had was apparently clueless about how bad his were. The worst ones were he only promoted people that were his approximate age, and he only promoted people that had the stereotypical look people associate with success. Are you tall, full head of hair, and slender? Congrats, you've been given the secret promotion nobody else even knew was available.
Ten years older, only 6', and male pattern baldness? Well, gee, even though you are LITERALLY DOING THE WORK OF THREE PEOPLE, there's no reason to give you that bump in pay grade even though they hand them out like candy at the other facilities.
Sorry that happened, No doubt it was a rough experience.
@@BenFanning7 I was pretty raw about it for some time, but it certainly gave me knowledge of what to look for in other work situations.
So essentially all you had to do was get fit, shave your head, whiten your teeth, and improve your social status?! I would have fleeced that manager for every red cent he was worth... lol
@@astrobot702 There was nothing wrong with my teeth or social status. 😆
Ironically, what also really irked the guy was that despite being a decade older, I had less gray hair than he did.
@@nolongeramused8135 the it's a loose loose situation it's the same thing at my company but it's not just looks they hate on if your educated and experienced and attractive your still public enemy number 1
I was passed over for promotion because I became irreplaceable in my role. So, I am now dumping all the work to my potential successor and am making sure my boss knows about it.
This is precisely my situation as of today. I am doing exactly this in response. The people I trained were promoted to my position, so I am only ever going to do what they do unless promoted. Not training anyone ever again because clearly I'm nothing special.
This happened to me last week! I was overlooked for a promotion as they had no one that could do my role and gave me some bs excuse as to why I wasn't even shortlisted for an interview. My response, I handed in my resignation that evening and looking to do something else. I'm so pissed off that I may even start my own business in the same sector as the role I'm about to vacate
exactly what i am doing!
Working and having a career in the U.S. is like never having graduated from high school. The same petty and ridiculous games are being played and being in the right clique and how popular you are will unfortunately determine a big part of your success.
I find that my biggest flaw is that my personality doesn't fit what they are looking for. Being an introvert is a major downfall when it comes to promotions. Even though I went back and got a graduate degree I have lost out to other employees that were less educated and credentialed. My reviews go something like 5/5 Engineering skills and maybe a 3/5 communication skills. I'll try taking your advice and try working on my conversation skills and hopefully upper MGMT finds me more relatable.
Look up servant leadership introverts can be great leaders it’s more about the strategy you employ.
You will never move up until somebody who used to be "you" becomes your boss. And that will only work if that person takes a genuine role as your mentor. You are screwed for life.
I feel ya brother. It’s frustrating seeing people that are clearly less intelligent than you get promoted over you. Mainly just because they are funny and outgoing.
Learn to fake it. I'm a total introvert and I HATE small talk. But, my peers, bosses, and reports wouldn't believe anyone who said that I was. Typically you know when an extrovert would say something, don't you? In my head, I just say "fuq it", open my mouth, and start talking.
Don't worry about being awkward. The way I see it, nobody is going to remember the random thing I said or did in 48 hours anyway. So, even if what you say doesn't come out exactly right, it doesn't matter. Plus, the more you talk, the more you'll figure out the right things to say.
If your employer has a mentorship program, jump into it. If you get an opportunity to communicate with higher-ups, take it. You want VISIBLE projects that put you out in front of leadership, even if they're not the most important projects. Your best chance at a promotion is if everybody knows who you are and somebody in management likes you. That's WAY more important than a graduate degree.
Move to another company
The answer to all this is: start a business, because being an employee absolutely sucks, no matter how you view it, unless you get a lucky break or are wired in a way that causes you to look and act like something they like, usually having little to do with merit. BTW, if they can fire you without a successor (and they can), then they can promote you without a successor. If they want to do it, they'll do it. The "successor" theory sounds like more of an excuse.
1. Identify your successors. I did all of them have been promoted higher than me.
2. Helping with the bigger picture. Have done that and just get the workload dumped on me. When trying to get involved often times, I'm scolded for trying to help.
there is no secret to this. it's unfair practice based on boss liking and lack of understanding and small vision. thats why no one ever should have one job to rely on. you become a king once the job knows you don't care about it too much.
The bonus applies to me perfectly. I am tendering my resignation tomorrow for a position at a competitor. I'm irreplaceable and have been promised advancement for years.
after 4 years in a company not getting promoted now i understood point 1 and 2 are the ones totally my life
My company gives me great reviews and decent pay rises year after year. But its a small company where i report to one of the directors, so there is no promotion on the horizon unless a position is invented. Having said that, its sad to see that 5 managers have left in 3 years and not a single person has been officially promoted.
The no 1 reason you dont get promoted: favoritism.
And jealousy, especially amongst cute women vs fat women
Nepostism.
Yep.
I started saying no to things outside of my job. If I get fired, I am not sure I care. I am not trying to get promoted. I just want to do the job I am paid to do. nothing more.
Smart moved and don’t care cus they don’t
Promotions are also determined by who's flag is on the castle!
Identifying a successor can also backfire.
I think you are right especially if they can find a way to pay him/her less.
Definitely not getting promoted now ! I knew I wasn’t going to be moving up so I just asked to be moved to part time.
Iv done all the steps over a 20+ year career.
I didn't get promoted because I don't follow the Asian "Model Minority " BS and I refuse to kiss anyone's ass.
Depends on the industry as well. I work in factories. I
In manufacturing promotions are very rare, even if there is an opening and you meet the requirements. You generally have to upgrade your skills outside of work and going elsewhere.
Told them for 3 years where I want to go again zero nothing, left unpromoted so , again where is the problem ?! All three I did and been overlooked 5x in 5 years !?!?! Other teams are saying I should be higher by now , but my boss doesnt care
Hi Ben, I'm resigning in my work and #1 and #3 hits hard. I stayed too long in my job and I want to start fresh in a new organization.
I don't buy this bullshit. They want to pick who they want.
Yep.
That's the bottom line. There is nothing we can do about it. The pick who they want.
If you have to choose between being irreplaceable and promote-able pick irreplaceable all day. Be direct with your boss letting him/her know that the promotion "ship has sailed" for you at the company and don't give any further details. Let them constantly worry about the day you submit your resignation letter whether it happens or not. Learn to say no occasionally even if it's not in your nature. Leave the office early everyday and live your life.
I'm going to stop right here because red flags go up that you're okay working for a boss who is not doing what they should be doing. If you're ready to move up, a good boss is aware of it and finds the replacement for your silver position so he can get you taking home gold. A bad boss sits in their office, ignoring everything like a god who has lost its passion, waiting to see if you're clever enough to do their job for them, and only letting you past the gates if you should shine three times brighter than they do. Given the opportunity, by the way, please get rid of the piece of clay who stood between you and your destiny. Eesh. And don't listen to somebody who tells you to work for an idiot. There's not much profit in it.
Im not sure I buy the irreplaceable argument because in reality if they dont promote you, eventually, they will eventually have to replace you.
It's sadly true. It seems counter productive, but it is just proof that most of the people who end up as supervisors, shouldn't actually be there.
Sometimes it’s God saving you from a position that he knows that you will be unhappy in.❤❤❤❤❤
It took me 8 1/2 years to finally get promoted after working too hard and too long to get full time work, being Asian they make you work twice as hard to get promotions and even rewards.
Lmao its even worse for black people
Team , I just wanted to share that even if you don't the promotion, you should absorb all the experience and knowledge you can to maximixe your CV or Resume which can get you twice the level of promotion , never get discouraged.
at the end of the day people only care about themselves. Don't expect anyone to help you get promoted at work.
I'm sorry it's very unlikely a person can get promoted in a family owned company. Unless there related.
That was reason why l turn down the new job down. The Technical department would only contain the Technical Manager and the Technical Supervisor......the Technical Manager is the daughter of the owner!
Thats not a smart idea for companies because I already told my boss that if i dont get a raise or promotion theyll have to replace me because im leaving if i had a company and a key employee whos a high performer said hes leaving i would negotiate immediately this is the employee covering weekends coming in on snow days and covering vacations you have to be a idiot to get rid of that employee.
To find my replacment is not up to me to do but leadership... sorry not doing their job not paid for it.
I made an effort by telling my manager, and one of the engineers I wanted to learn more about some of the technology they are using. I told them I am studying for similar tech and want to learn, they never really made any effort or attempt to show me anything. Whatever, that makes me feel like leaving for an employer where I can learn more instead.
I've been in manufacturing for years. That's the nature of this business. You tend to have to leave and go elsewhere to get it.
I fit all the qualities but the test is on a set algorithm that can only be passed if your "in the know" with the higher ups
I was the obvious pick, however I'm pretty irreplaceable. I'm not a stagnant guy either (so of course my plan for growth was very stringent.) They went with the 'safe' bet that is not as ambitious and will stay in that position for a least a year (that's if she doesn't quit and job hop to take another job because she has a big title on her resume now.) Sometimes it's better to dodge a bullet than to take the bullet. So when it comes back to you, you'll have the flexibility of saying 'NO.'
4 years working and I just realize I have no salary increment, juniors passed me by getting promotions, because of my irreplacable thingys 😂🤣😂 thanks for valuable content 🙏🙌
Time to resign
Promotion in a lot of Anglo-American companies is social and typically not related to performance.
This video could have started and ended with #3. If your boss/manager/whatever has not put together a written plan that details all that you must accomplish to be promoted, you have not accomplished those items, and the two of you have not sat down together to jointly prepare the justification that will be presented to HR and senior management - you are not getting promoted. Your promotion is not even in consideration, let alone budgeted if not planned a year in advance.
Hey Billy, If there's not a plan for your promotion I agree that it's a red flag. This could also be an opportunity to create one for yourself and share with your manager .. a bold and proactive move!
@@benfanning1 - Yes, I agree, but... You still need that manager to actually drive the process. In my own situation, I had a documented plan and exceeded all deliverables. The manager that I was working with submitted the paperwork for a promotion just as he was leaving for a new job. His boss, and the new manager, did not pursue the promotion. Not for me or anyone else on the team. Three years later, nobody on the team has been promoted except that new manager. Needless to say, there is now a wave of resignations as people are moving on now that the market is better post-pandemic.
@@billybeemus3929 That's must have been incredibly disappointing. Sounds like the company could be preparing to make some strategic shifts or could be under a lot of financial pressure that would prevent them from promoting. Might be a good chance to have business-level discussion on where the company is headed.
Sir I'm working in a retail chain since 7 years as an Accounts And Inventory Auditor my work and efficiency is much better than others,all knows that including my MD but no one giving me promotion where as other companies offering higher post with high packages. I'm emotionally attached with my current company.
Funnily, in January the director asked all of us to give one suggestion that we think can improve the company.
I was the only one that said progression pathways as it at least sets key goals for employees to achieve to know they're on the right track.
I've not heard anything back other than "that's a good and fair suggestion"
Naturally, I'm planning my exit as I'm sick of having all the work dumped on me with zero recognition while my manager claims to be working on monthly estimates for the third week running.
The recruiters are very biased on who they select even for people who are qualified, they should all be fired, this is why we have issues in our hiring system because we have idiots doing the interviews
Here’s the simple skinny on this: In order to get promoted, you first need to be a “key employee”, meaning highly valued by your superiors enough that they want to ensure not only that you stick around, but are happy to do so with regards to your salary and status within the company.
Note that your work quality is only tangentially related to whether you’re a “key employee”; it can range from excellent or mediocre, especially since your work quality isn’t the primary factor that determines whether you’re a “key employee” or not. Roughly, it’s based on how much they like you and how “alpha” they deem you. It’s basically a popularity contest.
So then, how do you know whether or not you’re a “key employee”? Very easily, in fact. Here is how: If you don’t know, then you’re not one. Companies make sure to let “key employees” know in no uncertain terms that they are ones both by their words and by their actions. If you are a “key employee” at your company, you already know it, and if you don’t, then I’m sorry to inform you that you’re not one.
You’re right on
Are u watching me at work lol? This was excellent I liked before you even started the discussion
Thanks, Maxus.
i think this video will help me make a decision, the visibility aspect especially, i believe this video is not about what to do, its about what happens if you do A or B or Z and thats a conversation only you can answer yourself
Promotion does not mean that we are going to do different job. We can be promoted doing exactly the same job, just change the title and, of course, more money!!! All of your points are incorrect, if we are loved, we can do nothing and we will still get a promotion.
The irreplacable concept and not promoting an employee because he is so good at what he does, eaning its a high capability and high commitment employee. Because that kind of employee is like that because he wants to excel and get promoted, because he want a higher income. So if you keep it down there doing it, eventually he will get frustrated and will quit, so the irreplacable employee concept is dumb and short term vision. In an organization you have 4 kinds of employee. 1.-Low capability, low commitment, those need to be fired righ away. 2.- High capability and low commitment, those guys can be worked out, by challenging them to keep them producing. 3 Low capability and high commitment, this guys can be trained and mentored to optimize their skills and perform better. 4.-High capability and High commitment, these guys need to be leaders, because all the other guys will allways go th this king of guy to ask for questions, mentorship. Normally Guys types 2 & 3 are around 70-80% of the team.
It's extremely dumb. What I have found out over my time working is that the majority of managers/supervisors don't actually know how to pick employees. When they get a good one they just got lucky. I noticed this with my recent boss. 2 of the three people I started with were good/decent hires. When those two moved out of state, the next two were good as well. Then he hires someone from another branch, and that person is TERRIBLE. And he refuse to properly discipline them. It's truly amazing. All respect loss.
At the end of the day, most organizations now thrive on mediocrity. It's completely disgusting.
lol basically do all the right things so you can get passed over again for the favorite ..... and keep doing that over and over again until the people above you are very rich....
I never got promoted with my current company with over 10 years of experience and a masters degree. I applied to over 100 internal jobs all of which I qualified for, not 1 interview at all. I’ll soon be resigning from that position
Sir I'm working in a retail chain since 7 years as an Accounts And Inventory Auditor my work and efficiency is much better than others,all knows that including my MD but no one giving me promotion where as other companies offering higher post with high packages. I'm emotionally attached with my current company.
I spent 7 years in a position with a previous employer. Management sent me a letter telling me I wasn't promotable because I was too valuable in my current role. So, I left the company. 4 years later, my annual pay has TRIPLED from that role.
You may be emotionally attached to your current company, but the company IS NOT emotionally attached to you. You may smile at your coworkers and boss and joke around, but they ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS. You could get laid off tomorrow, and nearly all of them will forget you exist almost immediately. Believe me when I tell you that you will never even hear from these people again.
You don't owe your employer ANYTHING. It's your career. You're the captain of your own ship and the only one that really cares about how far you advance.
Update your resume and start interviewing immediately. Get what you're worth.
Companies and firms don't give a crap about you. Find a better job and quit.
The people who do things well will continue to do things. Those who can't do those things will be on top to manage the people who are doing things well 🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻🖕🏻
Did nevee got a chance to do higher up stuff even though asked to be involed myself always was a NO. So again... why not promoted ?!
I will look out for that work on it
The problem with this video, as with so many of these types of videos, is that the company and management is never wrong -- it's always your fault. I get the impression that these videos always spin this to off the blame on the employee so that companies that see the video will like it, and give him/her/other gen a contract, versus faulting the company and taking the side of the employee does not have that big financial upside.
This is promotion for a corporate hype man. Individuals get paid to come tell employees what they need to do better to make the executive team feel good.
Just quit go to company that will promote you jist doing it tomorrow bye bye old company you sure will miss me as my team already told me dont you dare quitting.... so I just did. Sorry team mates and other teams now I dont know who you will go to with questions .... byebyebyebye
Why should I identify a successor, they are not paying me extra to find another person. What you think people are doing to do that for free and break their back just the please the boss who doesn’t want to lift a finger with the successor?
Where i come from if you come in drunk you get promoted.
Same here! Seems like the shittier the employee you are the better chance of promotion
@@Mr.FROGS13 yeah sad world now days
8 years same company should I stay or no??
Absolutely not!
Absolutely not! I am talking from experience. If you do not get promoted in 3 years of joining the company, you should jump unless their is a personal reason. Also do not wait for performance appraisal. With no ambiguity you should mention in your first year that you wish to be promoted in 2 years.
@@Yourdaddy_2024 I quit my job after 9 years and 5 month
Great and I'm going to do so.
Leave. Especially if you’ve been explicitly pushing for a promotion and you’ve honestly been checking off the boxes.
The people who will continue to never get promoted won’t listen past point 1 lol
U knows what happens when U train your replacement ? ... ding ding ding - U know it
There's room at the top they're telling you still ...
Asian business culture is diffrent from your western perspective so to speak but u have your points though
Excellent salespeople run into this hurdle often.
Thanks, BT. Definitely important to keep in mind.
If you see these signs. Get a new employer
Don’t listen to this fool, everything he says is having the worker break their back and not getting paid extra for a successor, he is one of those Bootlicker’s in the office, he’s more concerned about likes on his channel 👎
Who keep tamping with my phone enough is enough ,and respect is respect . In order to get respect you have to earn it ! What ever God has for me it is for me. It's in God's hands. God has the latest say ! Now I'm asking you kindly erase, delete all not so I mean al of the zodiac sign from my phone .I really respect every one but when you start how some was talking advance of .that just let me know that you need healing as well as some consulting. Please remove all of you from my phone , thank you!
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Boss dont like you so no promotion.
BOSS has NOTHING to do with promotion unless it is fake
@@OptimalOpinionthey do lmao
A promotion is not an award or recognition of anything... it's just a lot more work, for not that much more money.
those are FAKE promotions - REAL promotion = $$$ +++ Stress - - -