Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 0:40 PART 1: What is considered a Good Artifact? 2:14 PART 2: The RNG behind Upgrading Artifacts 3:52 PART 3: How to Upgrade Artifacts The Right Way: BAM Method 4:24 Batch 4:48 Access 5:14 Moi 6:35 Example of BAM Method 8:14 Q&A 9:37 Artifact Upgrade Showcase 11:38 Conclusion
The problem with this theory is believing or thinking that the game knows which rolls are bad and which are good. Presumably all of the rolls are equal to the game. This also assumes a VERY rudimentary RNG system, in fact it assumes something that is not actually Random at all. It's an interesting theory, but I feel like if it were this simple it would be proven and everyone would do it, also it would probably be fixed.
the game kinda knows whats bad roll, did you forget that the cr and cd rolls have low roll chances? so the statisticaly you will get the low chances too afetr a few higher rolls^^
@@marselinusnugraha2207Not really, everything has a probability and unlike pity on the wishing banner there is no set limit before you are guaranteed a good artifact.
It does work, I tested it in the artifact generator, for some reason rng is working like this, and I'm also working out on rigging the rng on 5 stars in wish sim
The thing is it is not needed for the game to know which ones are bad. It only comes down to a dice of 6 faces for example, if you rolled it 10 times and none of them were 6, you can assume that in the next roll you have higher chances of rolling 6. It's the same here. It's not about getting the "bad ones" first. It's about getting all the ones you don't want "out of the pool".
Thanks for this guide. It's Very close to what I currently do. But it's nice to try different methods, especially this one, as it seems more promising and less time-consuming.
I’m at the point with genshin where whishing / spending is not a great option anymore. Before 3.0 i got every character. The problem is that i spend every resin on farming for talent and level up materials. Downside also is that I relied on wanderers troupe and gladiator sets. Because I had no resin left for artifact domains. between 3.0 and now 4.2 I finally begon to farm for artifacts and now I finally got more then 30 stars in the spiral abyss. Hoyoverse should really rethink this rng artifact system. Because if there are more people who thing as me, then people will eventually stop pulling for characters to focus on the ones they already own.
This video just proves the problem with the RNG based artifact system. Whether my characters are actually viable shouldn't be up to chance. A big side problem is other players making fun of you for not having good substats
i believed in this method thanks the accuracy is about 70 percent in my acc actually good. i have rolled multiple artifacts and rolled in crits always nce guide
Your MOI is similar to what i found. I usually wait until my artifacts are almost full and i start to upgrade. I save the best for the last. I will start by testing some good potential artifacts, until i start to get many good substats then i will go to the ONE i have been waiting to upgrade. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. but i still like this way.
i actually feel like this rng system on artefacts in itself is a joke, heck, i am 100% sure every artefacts have different crit drops chance because, i have farmed shimenawa since i first ever unlocked inazuma which was 2 years + ago and have only farmed there mainly (i only farm decent ones for other new characters i got) i have not stopped wasting my resin in shimenawa ever since because this artefact is so versatile and OP for alot of characters, and i havent gotten a single 40cv artefact, artefacts sub stats should be able to get combined as like how you would combine different pieces of artefacts, i actually have a hunch that this specific artefact (shimenawa) actually has lower chance of dropping crit substats, 2 years plus farming on the same domain is not a healthy amount, i came to this conclusion because the EOSF artefact gives alot of ER upon upgrading, and what a coincidence that the other counterpart doesnt give good Crits?
a trick I found in the most recent patch that works 90% of the time is when you have 1 more upgrade level to go (4, 8, 16, 20) and you use different artefact types (no 2 the same) it always upgrades my crit substat. like i use 1 noblesse, 1 heart of depth and 1 emblem. doesnt matter the fodder substat it always does that. bonus if the type of fodder is also different like 1 flower, 1 feather and 1 circlet for example. i have been doing this and it gives crit upgrade 9 times out of 10 no matter the substats of the fodder im using I know it's random luck but for some reason, this has been working in the current patch for me regardless of other factors. I also found when using a 5 star flower alone to raise the level to 4, 8, 16, 20 etc it usually upgrades the crit substat. edit. I used this method to get a 14% crit rate substat on 1 artifact and a 42.2% crit damage substat value on a different artifact :) However, I also noticed that there are certain days of the week where you have higher chances for certain substats over others regardless of the method. I test other artifacts and notice they are mostly upgrading def so I dont bother until reset. then I see on a different day, I keep getting crit and atk% rolls so I use the above method to max out crit substats
Does the mainstat matter when you select the fodder? Ik you said substats don’t matter and using different sets/parts of it helps but what about the main stats?
@@kawaiitsundere6673 when it's the last level to go to upgrade a substat on your chosen piece, I found that most of the time it didn't work was with a def main stat fodder. But other times it was random. When it was working, my highest success was using something with mainstat crit, hp and energy recharge. I try to avoid fodder with substat def aswell because that always gave me a 50/50 chance of success or straight up didn't work. I avoid Def like the plague on that last level upgrade
I think you might be onto smth here, just yesterday i got 14 cr on a marechaeusse flower after using a pavillion flower to upgrade it. Then for the last two rolls, i used a marechausse flower and it rolled into def,, which is in line with what you said, so i think i’ll try your method from now on!!
@@kawaiitsundere6673 that's awesome! I just hope this method stays working 🤣 of course it's not fool proof but it works often enough for me to stick by it!
meanwhile after 1 year farming for raiden's artifact for one year also. still at 210 ER crit rate 45, crit dmg 154. that's the BAM one year of lifetime wasted. then used the sanctifying exlixir on electro golbet dmg bonus crit rate, crit dmg used the bulk upgrade thinking it was worth it then BAM another FKN BAM. it had missing one slot for random upgrade, but FUKN BAM it went all to DEF literally. so I decided to abandon her even if she's at c2.
hello, i have a question, so i have a circlet that gives crit dmg and i upgrated it, and it gave 17.5% of def and 13.2% of prob crit, and i am questioning myself if this is a good piece. What should i do?
From what you described, I assume it's a +20 Crit DMG Circlet that has 13.2% Crit Rate and 17.5% DEF. Generally, this is a good piece. You have 3 rolls into Crit Rate on a Circlet, which is great. 2 rolls into DEF is not ideal, but it could be good for any DEF-scaling characters (e.g. Itto). More information like if it's the right artifact set you want, if you already have any better pieces, what are the other substats, etc. would be great. But in most cases I would keep this piece, since lots of units would appreciate a good Crit DMG circlet with a high Crit Rate substat.
I havent tried this out but i need to test it.. However only issue is that my exhausted brain fuzed out at the most important part of the video, so if anyone can.. Summarize what i need to do, it would be much appreciated. 🙏
Tiếng Anh phụ đề chạy nhanh quá xem xong gần như là chưa hiểu gì?. Túm lại trick của bạn là gì vậy? Có phải là up fail 3, 4 cái Artifact mồi thì chắc chắn up thành công cái artifact chính đúng ko?
Cách của mình là bạn chuẩn bị khoảng 3 artifact chính có dòng substat đẹp (Crit Rate, Crit DMG, etc). Sau đó bạn đập mồi trước, khi nào thấy mồi vào những dòng như flat ATK, flat DEF, thì ban quay sang đập artifact chính. Thường như mình up thì mình 1/3 artifact +20 sẽ vào được substat đẹp. Nếu mình đập được 1 cái ngon thì mình sẽ dừng và tích tiếp để hôm khác up. Nếu cả 3 cái đều fail thì mình vẫn sẽ làm vậy. Như thế mình sẽ chỉ có 1 vài hôm để up 1 loạt artifact thay vì up lẻ tẻ. Nó giúp mình có khả năng cao up được ít nhất 1 món ngon (vì tích nhiều) và tiết kiệm thời gian nữa. Up artifact luôn random nên cách này của mình giúp bạn biến việc up artifact thành 1 thứ casual, chứ không tăng tỉ lệ up thành công bạn nhé.
@@Chillthur lúc trưa mình để chế độ 0,5 và đã hiểu trick của bạn. Tất nhiên như bạn nói là ko có trick nào tăng dx tỉ lệ thành công cả. Cách bạn làm bó tương tự như xác suất thống kê, khi lượt này fail hoàn toàn thì khả năng thành công ở main sẽ cao hơn. Và cũng nhắc lại là "khả năng" thôi chứ ko ai dám nói "chắc chắn" cả. Cảm ơn bạn vì đã reply rất có tâm. Tks.
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:40 PART 1: What is considered a Good Artifact?
2:14 PART 2: The RNG behind Upgrading Artifacts
3:52 PART 3: How to Upgrade Artifacts The Right Way: BAM Method
4:24 Batch
4:48 Access
5:14 Moi
6:35 Example of BAM Method
8:14 Q&A
9:37 Artifact Upgrade Showcase
11:38 Conclusion
The problem with this theory is believing or thinking that the game knows which rolls are bad and which are good. Presumably all of the rolls are equal to the game. This also assumes a VERY rudimentary RNG system, in fact it assumes something that is not actually Random at all. It's an interesting theory, but I feel like if it were this simple it would be proven and everyone would do it, also it would probably be fixed.
the game kinda knows whats bad roll, did you forget that the cr and cd rolls have low roll chances? so the statisticaly you will get the low chances too afetr a few higher rolls^^
Except, The game knows. Rolls for cirits are lower than other substats.
@@marselinusnugraha2207Not really, everything has a probability and unlike pity on the wishing banner there is no set limit before you are guaranteed a good artifact.
It does work, I tested it in the artifact generator, for some reason rng is working like this, and I'm also working out on rigging the rng on 5 stars in wish sim
The thing is it is not needed for the game to know which ones are bad. It only comes down to a dice of 6 faces for example, if you rolled it 10 times and none of them were 6, you can assume that in the next roll you have higher chances of rolling 6. It's the same here. It's not about getting the "bad ones" first. It's about getting all the ones you don't want "out of the pool".
Thanks for this guide. It's Very close to what I currently do. But it's nice to try different methods, especially this one, as it seems more promising and less time-consuming.
I’m at the point with genshin where whishing / spending is not a great option anymore. Before 3.0 i got every character. The problem is that i spend every resin on farming for talent and level up materials. Downside also is that I relied on wanderers troupe and gladiator sets. Because I had no resin left for artifact domains. between 3.0 and now 4.2 I finally begon to farm for artifacts and now I finally got more then 30 stars in the spiral abyss. Hoyoverse should really rethink this rng artifact system. Because if there are more people who thing as me, then people will eventually stop pulling for characters to focus on the ones they already own.
This video just proves the problem with the RNG based artifact system. Whether my characters are actually viable shouldn't be up to chance. A big side problem is other players making fun of you for not having good substats
I called this method the failstack method like most other rpg games enchantment strat. Nice seeing someone in genshin understand this also.
i believed in this method thanks the accuracy is about 70 percent in my acc actually good. i have rolled multiple artifacts and rolled in crits always nce guide
49.8 cv is PRETTY GOOD for you???? I"ve been farming and upgrading artifacts for one and half year and I only got ONE 50CV
i have been playing since release and i dont have a 50cv artifact yet
playing since release and i have one 44 one and one is 41 and rest is like trash below 38 KEKW
@@ESMIR1337
My max is 45.8 cv on a hp goblet (And no one uses it, iswtg if i don't get furina idk what to do with it)
What is CV?
@@PrincePrince-ef1jm crit value
Your MOI is similar to what i found. I usually wait until my artifacts are almost full and i start to upgrade. I save the best for the last. I will start by testing some good potential artifacts, until i start to get many good substats then i will go to the ONE i have been waiting to upgrade. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. but i still like this way.
i actually feel like this rng system on artefacts in itself is a joke, heck, i am 100% sure every artefacts have different crit drops chance because, i have farmed shimenawa since i first ever unlocked inazuma which was 2 years + ago and have only farmed there mainly (i only farm decent ones for other new characters i got) i have not stopped wasting my resin in shimenawa ever since because this artefact is so versatile and OP for alot of characters, and i havent gotten a single 40cv artefact, artefacts sub stats should be able to get combined as like how you would combine different pieces of artefacts, i actually have a hunch that this specific artefact (shimenawa) actually has lower chance of dropping crit substats, 2 years plus farming on the same domain is not a healthy amount, i came to this conclusion because the EOSF artefact gives alot of ER upon upgrading, and what a coincidence that the other counterpart doesnt give good Crits?
9:29 The Ielts Test be like:
💀🤣 got a 8 band anyway
It’s crazy!! This actually worked for me 3 times in a row!!!
What?
I didn't understand anything
@@PrincePrince-ef1jm neither did I 😔
Also make sure to feed it crit DMG artifacts
a trick I found in the most recent patch that works 90% of the time is when you have 1 more upgrade level to go (4, 8, 16, 20) and you use different artefact types (no 2 the same) it always upgrades my crit substat. like i use 1 noblesse, 1 heart of depth and 1 emblem. doesnt matter the fodder substat it always does that. bonus if the type of fodder is also different like 1 flower, 1 feather and 1 circlet for example. i have been doing this and it gives crit upgrade 9 times out of 10 no matter the substats of the fodder im using
I know it's random luck but for some reason, this has been working in the current patch for me regardless of other factors. I also found when using a 5 star flower alone to raise the level to 4, 8, 16, 20 etc it usually upgrades the crit substat. edit. I used this method to get a 14% crit rate substat on 1 artifact and a 42.2% crit damage substat value on a different artifact :) However, I also noticed that there are certain days of the week where you have higher chances for certain substats over others regardless of the method. I test other artifacts and notice they are mostly upgrading def so I dont bother until reset. then I see on a different day, I keep getting crit and atk% rolls so I use the above method to max out crit substats
Does the mainstat matter when you select the fodder? Ik you said substats don’t matter and using different sets/parts of it helps but what about the main stats?
@@kawaiitsundere6673 when it's the last level to go to upgrade a substat on your chosen piece, I found that most of the time it didn't work was with a def main stat fodder. But other times it was random. When it was working, my highest success was using something with mainstat crit, hp and energy recharge. I try to avoid fodder with substat def aswell because that always gave me a 50/50 chance of success or straight up didn't work. I avoid Def like the plague on that last level upgrade
@@JesusIsLord2478 I tried it yesterday. It worked well! Got a 62:271 build now lol
I think you might be onto smth here, just yesterday i got 14 cr on a marechaeusse flower after using a pavillion flower to upgrade it. Then for the last two rolls, i used a marechausse flower and it rolled into def,, which is in line with what you said, so i think i’ll try your method from now on!!
@@kawaiitsundere6673 that's awesome! I just hope this method stays working 🤣 of course it's not fool proof but it works often enough for me to stick by it!
Thanks 👍 , i understood the strategy to use
meanwhile after 1 year farming for raiden's artifact for one year also. still at 210 ER crit rate 45, crit dmg 154. that's the BAM one year of lifetime wasted. then used the sanctifying exlixir on electro golbet dmg bonus crit rate, crit dmg used the bulk upgrade thinking it was worth it then BAM another FKN BAM. it had missing one slot for random upgrade, but FUKN BAM it went all to DEF literally. so I decided to abandon her even if she's at c2.
Thank you for this video!! I will try this method for the new domain!
Best of luck :)
Sức mạnh của niềm tin :)) T up liên tục 10 cái 1-2 dòng 5 sao đều hỏng hết ráo.
hello, i have a question, so i have a circlet that gives crit dmg and i upgrated it, and it gave 17.5% of def and 13.2% of prob crit, and i am questioning myself if this is a good piece. What should i do?
From what you described, I assume it's a +20 Crit DMG Circlet that has 13.2% Crit Rate and 17.5% DEF.
Generally, this is a good piece. You have 3 rolls into Crit Rate on a Circlet, which is great. 2 rolls into DEF is not ideal, but it could be good for any DEF-scaling characters (e.g. Itto).
More information like if it's the right artifact set you want, if you already have any better pieces, what are the other substats, etc. would be great. But in most cases I would keep this piece, since lots of units would appreciate a good Crit DMG circlet with a high Crit Rate substat.
It is good piece
Just cover up for it by other pieces
Its actually good, just make sure you don't lack in atk/hp/def depending on who you use it
So basically,
1- farm
2- upgrade your bad ones
3- use your bad upgraded ones to upgrade the good ones
Did I get that correct?
I havent tried this out but i need to test it.. However only issue is that my exhausted brain fuzed out at the most important part of the video, so if anyone can.. Summarize what i need to do, it would be much appreciated. 🙏
This definitely isn't a thing. Also, crit stats aren't the most valuable, energy recharge is.
Thank you very much
my def goblet got full flat def 5 rolls
Didn't work for me
Not working 😢
Tiếng Anh phụ đề chạy nhanh quá xem xong gần như là chưa hiểu gì?. Túm lại trick của bạn là gì vậy? Có phải là up fail 3, 4 cái Artifact mồi thì chắc chắn up thành công cái artifact chính đúng ko?
Cách của mình là bạn chuẩn bị khoảng 3 artifact chính có dòng substat đẹp (Crit Rate, Crit DMG, etc). Sau đó bạn đập mồi trước, khi nào thấy mồi vào những dòng như flat ATK, flat DEF, thì ban quay sang đập artifact chính.
Thường như mình up thì mình 1/3 artifact +20 sẽ vào được substat đẹp. Nếu mình đập được 1 cái ngon thì mình sẽ dừng và tích tiếp để hôm khác up. Nếu cả 3 cái đều fail thì mình vẫn sẽ làm vậy.
Như thế mình sẽ chỉ có 1 vài hôm để up 1 loạt artifact thay vì up lẻ tẻ. Nó giúp mình có khả năng cao up được ít nhất 1 món ngon (vì tích nhiều) và tiết kiệm thời gian nữa. Up artifact luôn random nên cách này của mình giúp bạn biến việc up artifact thành 1 thứ casual, chứ không tăng tỉ lệ up thành công bạn nhé.
@@Chillthur lúc trưa mình để chế độ 0,5 và đã hiểu trick của bạn. Tất nhiên như bạn nói là ko có trick nào tăng dx tỉ lệ thành công cả. Cách bạn làm bó tương tự như xác suất thống kê, khi lượt này fail hoàn toàn thì khả năng thành công ở main sẽ cao hơn. Và cũng nhắc lại là "khả năng" thôi chứ ko ai dám nói "chắc chắn" cả. Cảm ơn bạn vì đã reply rất có tâm. Tks.
@@Chillthur tks bạn nhé. Mình test theo cách của bạn và đã thành công dx 2 món với lần lượt 4 và 5 lần up.
@@duongth1982 Nice. Chúc mừng bạn nhé!
@@Chillthur Lại dx cái lông dành cho Lôi Thần với 4 lần up thành công nhé. Tips hay típ hay :)
Thanks.
Assess*
Thanks :)
A bạn ở nước ngoài hay sao mà đăng video trái giờ thế
Ừ t tranh thủ đăng :)
Sunday/Thu - flowers . tuesday/saturday - sands . Wednesday - goblet . Friday/mon - circlet.
I saw this just now and I wished I see this earlier because I just ruined the only good crimson feather that I finally got after 2 weeks 🥲
NOO CUZ SAME