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Your build sounds pretty good already. The DMG comparison between your 2 builds will be close so it's better that you test it in-game to see which one you prefer. Also, I recommend having 1 good ATK% Cost 3 since 43311 1 ATK 1 Spectro is still widely considered the best for S0R1.

@@Chillthur thanks

You can check 1:00 - 1:30 where I discussed good sub stats to aim for. While Crit has the highest gains for her DPS, it's not everything and you also need other sub stats for a good build.

Yeah I saw it. She changed her substat assumptions to have less more Skill DMG Bonus subs, which means the final result changed as well. Though, the difference between the two builds are anywhere from 1-5%, which means it comes down to whichever build has better substats.

Jiyan's weapon is also pretty good, only roughly ~15-20% behind Jinhsi's sig. I'd estimate you can hit anywhere from 300-500k depending on your stacks and the scenario (e.g. there can be buffs/resistances in ToA).

This is top 1%, not top 1 :).

I did think of this, but then the video would be longer and not 4:44:11 :). But seriously, damage showcases often cause controversy. I have seen comments like 'Why is your DMG so low, mine is better,' or 'You should have tested this instead.' So I decided to have a small video scope and keep the focus on just the echo details. As for Illusive Realm, you don't need to give it too much thought. This was recorded a while ago, and I finally had the chance to post it. Just something fun to view later 😊.

@Chillthur I see your point, but those comments shouldn't matter much tbh, they sound imo more hate than a feedback. What's the point of showing the echoes without a DMG showcase? If it's too much of a hassle to do it it's fine but I'll rephrase my point, can you do a DMG showcase?

@@hary3576 I will definitely consider it if people are really interested :).

Teams: F2P Friendly: Jinhsi - Yuanwu - Verina. Sanhua is a good flex spot as well with her insanely fast Concerto Energy generation. 5-star: Jinhsi - Zhezhi - Shorekeeper. One of her current best teams. You can also use Yinlin instead of Zhezhi as off-field sub DPS. Quickswap: Jinhsi - Changli - Shorekeeper. This team can perform really well in ToA and the rotation looks pretty cool too. For echo farming in overworld, it depends on whether you like it or not. If yes, for Cost 3 always farm Lightcrusher as it belong to just Spector set. Cost 1, aim for echoes that belong to only 2 sets (e.g. Hoartoise, Gulpuff, Clang Bang, Havoc Warrior, etc.). There are echo farm route available online that you can check out. Make sure you only spend reasonable amount of time because this can take really long. Tacet field is pretty much a must. I went pretty hard on echo farming before. Now, I just do Tacet Field, and only raise JInhsi Echoes if I get them through Data Bank-Merge or Exploration.

That's awesome. Your build definitely sounds like top 1%. My Jiyan is pretty decent too, though I'm still farming for a good Nightmare Beringal so not really finished yet :).

Thanks :). I have tried a lot of methods, but now I usually level to just +10 or +15. If it has good sub stats then continue. Else I throw away. With these top 1% builds, the number of Echoes I have to scrap are too many 😆.

@@Chillthur I see. Luck is everything i guess. Thanks for the information. Good luck for your top 100 builds 😁

Yeah I'm pretty interested. From the builds I've seen around, I definitely have a good shot for a decently high ranking :).

I already addressed this at around 0:18 - 0:28. Different players have different weapons/sequences, so even if you're S0 no sig weapon or S6R5, these don't matter. Top 1% here only looks at Echo build. This means any Jinhsi players can compete with each other. The method used here is referenced from Akasha, which has leaderboards with millions of builds submitted. akasha.cv/leaderboards

Thanks :). If you look at the chart from Maygi at around 0:52, even at S0 full sub stats, 44111 is slightly ahead of 43311. With S1 the gap widens. It's still for reference though as this heavily depends on the substat quality. The reason why 43311 and 44111 are so close is because Jinhsi already gain a lot of DMG Bonus sources (Passive Skills, Signature weapon, Echo Set effects, Cost 4 Jué, S1). This is why 44111 is better imo since it has a nice balance between Crit DMG, ATK% and DMG Bonus. For sub stat value (see chart at 1:00), Crit DMG and ATK% rolls pull ahead. So even if your SK is S0, S1R1 Jinhsi can already go 44111 just fine. Though, if you're comfortable with 43311 and it has better sub stat rolls, stick with 43311. About making more WuWa content, I'm actually considering it. I play the game pretty casually (as in just do Tacet Fields and one-time clear ToA + events). I'm pretty focused on Echo optimization though so if you prefer this type of content, feel free to hang out :).

@@Chillthur I saw Maygi's video but I also saw she updated her formula so I legit wasnt sure. Originally I know she mentioned needing a few res skill dmg rolls aside from the obvious crit rolls but im not sure I understood that properly, Like what are the conditions are in order to make 44111 better because I know she also mentioned that if you dont meet certain conditions the 43311 with ATK/Element will net more value so honestly guess ill go watch it again, im dmb as heck tho so feel free to fill any blanks for me, im trying to understand ^^' And I really hope you would decide to actually make Wuwa content, And yes I will be interested in that more personally :)

​@@mahkeemdehmah10boo87 No worries :). Basically, WuWa DMG formula counts Res. Skill DMG Bonus, Res. Liberation DMG Bonus and Spectro DMG Bonus as the same 'DMG Bonus'. Since Jinhsi already has a lot of DMG Bonus sources, the more DMG Bonus you have the less DPS you gain. This is also known as 'Diminishing Return'. With S1 giving 80% Skill DMG Bonus, this dilutes the pool even more. This is why, adding Crit DMG and ATK% will net you more DPS. For certain conditions, my guess is that the calculation heavily depends on the number of Skill DMG Bonus/ATK%/flat ATK/Crit DMG sub-stat rolls in your echoes. If you have more ATK%/ATK/Crit DMG rolls substats, then 43311 is better. And if you have more Skill DMG, then 44111 is better. All in all, I do think both builds are pretty close and the difference rely entirely on each echo' substats. These will matter when you actually aim for top 100 in the world, but for most players, you don't need to spend too much time on it :).

@@Chillthur What if I have both of those conditions ? Atm im 43311 and I have a pretty ok crit ratio 73/283 I would say my atk is quite low at 2227 even while running one ATK% 3 cost. atm I have 4 rolls of res skill% on my current build but obviously if I change it to 44111 ima have to snipe some more skill % rolls. So what im getting from all of this is 44111 will come up on top even if not a lot at start but the gap widens the more you optimize and further invest in favor of 44111. And I am planning on getting S1 and with S2 SK it sounds like it will even widen the gap no? I dont know if I have a specific goal in mind like being in the top 100 or anything, But I would like to try at least once to super optimize a character's build just for the experience since I was always happy with just getting what I currently have so this will be a first for me. And besides, Not like I got anything better to do in the game, Beating anything already so might as well.

@@mahkeemdehmah10boo87 I see. Your build already sounds good. In short: With S0, keep 43311. With S1, go for 44111. To super optimize her, aim for Crit/Skill DMG/ATK%/Flat ATK. If you want more Burst (I find this really useful), also aim for Liberation DMG/Regen. This is what I'm also focusing on future Jinhsi echoes :). Hopefully, once we actually have a leaderboard, then we can have a proper look at how good our Jinhsi builds are in the world 😎.

@A5ra3lA right I will never get these rolls I have jinshi s6 and all my crit dmg can only hit 13.5 I’ve been building for months I hate the tunner crap

Thanks :). Unfortunately, there's no website for this yet, so I had to calculate and estimate on my own. For Genshin, there's a website called 'Akasha.cv' where you can see leaderboards for top 1% with millions of builds in different categories. I have 30 Top 1% characters, so you know I'm quite used to how the calculation works. I then applied this method to WuWa: Check with stats Jinhsi needs, then count the number of effective sub-stats and roll value (RV) that are good for Jinhsi. I also looked at various Jinhsi builds for comparison to make sure I didn't overestimate myself. This is why I included multiple builds for both 44111 and 43311 to be certain that my Jinhsi is top 1%. I'm also keeping track of the reception to this video to see how many better builds there are from other players. For your account: If your echo build has 3-4 good rolls with medium to high value on each echo, there's a good chance that your build is top 1%. Obviously, a website like Akasha would be great for comparison, but until we actually get one for WuWa, we'll need to make do with these methods for now.

@@Chillthur I have an 4 star echo that give crit 8.1 crit d 18.9 atk percent 10.1 with 50 atk and 8.3 resonance skill Echo for rover havoc crownloss how much do you think he is I know he is super good but I can't do calculations so tell me

@@aoi_o_Gami Is the main stat Crit Rate/Crit DMG? If yes, then it's really good for Havoc Rover :).

@@Chillthur rate

Thanks :). I spent so many tuners and echo EXP that I'm constantly running out, especially tuners. During the ~7 months since her release, my conservative estimation is 'thousands'. I wouldn't be surprised if the actual number were more than ten thousands tuners just for Jinhsi 😆.

@@Chillthur massive jinshi invester

what's your highest damage tho

Jhin approved

@@stefanvan9617 Instructor is good.

no but she will be

Both Bennett and Rosaria's Bursts create stationary Circle areas of effect. This means that if enemies move out of range or are far from the circle, Mavuika will need to chase after them -> causing her to stay out of the circle -> miss out on the buffs from their Bursts. While Bennett Burst is a smaller issue (since Mavuika's Charged Attack can move in and out), Rosaria Burst requires enemies to stay within the circle to be hit by Cryo every 2 seconds, allowing Mavuika to Melt. However, this might not always be consistent due to the small size of her circle and the varying movements of enemies.

@@Chillthurcan i switch rosaria with citlali?

@ Yes 👍

Kaeya or Diona are also pretty decent :)

@@Chillthur i got all 3 , can you rank them?

Charlotte is pretty good too

@xboxkiwii Xilonen or Chevreuse :)

@@Chillthur Thank You for Your answer. I have C0 Chevreuse, is it a problem? Because I saw Chevreuse is good when she is C6.

@xboxkiwii C0 Chevreuse is already good enough. No need to go for C6, unless you really like Pyro + Electro team comp :).

@@Chillthur Alright, Thank You!

I see you can build a lot of good teams with your roster. 4 example teams: - Vaporize: Neuvillette Mavuika Sucrose Kachina Arlecchino Bennett Xingqiu Kazuha - Melt: Mavuika Kachina Bennett Rosaria - Hyperbloom: Nahida Xingqiu Shinobu + Flex

It's not easy. HoYo would have to replace many current voice actors, whose voices are already beloved by the community. Additionally, they need to consider new contracts, the time and cost to re-record all voice lines, and more. Their current solution is to transfer the existing voice actors to a new studio that is not SAG-AFTRA. I've heard that some have already been transferred, but this info hasn't been verified yet. It's an unfortunate situation overall. We can only hope for a swift and positive resolution.

@@Chillthur sadly meh, btw thanks for answering <3