The secret origin of Zelda's temple music

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  • @ThomasGameDocs
    @ThomasGameDocs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +736

    Hey! So, at the end of August I was burnt out and couldn't make videos anymore. In the 3 months since then, a few people really helped me pick up the pieces and get things going again, so I just wanted to thank them here :))
    - Katie and Ellie (as always haha)
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    Thanks SO MUCH to all of you

    • @ghostxtbxtbitxtbite9497
      @ghostxtbxtbitxtbite9497 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I replied

    • @sewkrazy
      @sewkrazy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It would make me happy if you talked about the Sonic IDW comics. Or just talk about Sonic in general. Keep making great content!

    • @parrotplays7
      @parrotplays7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey!

    • @Gravastars1
      @Gravastars1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Think this is your best vid yet!

    • @basicbird2467
      @basicbird2467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Don’t worry about it, I’d rather my favourite TH-camrs feel good about the work they produce and also having great content that is spread out is better than mediocre content that is frequent

  • @vlanzingmanz
    @vlanzingmanz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1004

    I swear Thomas's favorite video clip is the one slowly zooming into Nintendo Headquarters

    • @weirdsailorman4070
      @weirdsailorman4070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      or the zoom into a pixelated shitty face.... now I will have nightmares for another year

    • @Sansibit
      @Sansibit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lmao I can approve

    • @ShirubaGin
      @ShirubaGin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Plot twist: He is Shigeru Miyamoto

    • @denaze05
      @denaze05 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I see why lol

    • @shrimpcupnoodle2574
      @shrimpcupnoodle2574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I love that this clip LITERALLY happened exactly as I was reading this comment.

  • @chrisbeach423
    @chrisbeach423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +738

    Apparently this 💿 “distorted reality” has been used all across gaming from zelda to silent hill to crash and spyro, and even Tony Hawk.

    • @enterzainment
      @enterzainment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      I believe it’s developed by Spectrasonics, and you can still use those samples today in their software synth Omnisphere. They have a huge legacy with being affiliated in the music media industry.

    • @enterzainment
      @enterzainment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Actually I’m pretty sure Nintendo uses Omnisphere for most, it not all of their modern game soundtracks. You can hear in the Tostarena Ruins song from Super Mario Odyssey an Omnisphere preset.
      th-cam.com/video/DX-kOWIxYuw/w-d-xo.html

    • @kairinase
      @kairinase 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It's a case of "Kouji, may I copy your homework?".

    • @m.t-thoughts8919
      @m.t-thoughts8919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@enterzainment Thanks for telling me the Plugin were the samples are stored. Now I can create the craziest atmospheric sounds with Fruity Convolver together with Omnisphere! 🥰🙏

    • @bobbyvee6414
      @bobbyvee6414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I actually recognize that from my turntable days. Suddenly I have an urge to pull my 6 pound wallet chain and stovepipe jncos out of storage. Lol

  • @jerotoro2021
    @jerotoro2021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +216

    Miyamoto watching this thinking "that rotter told me it was all original"

    • @erikagluck
      @erikagluck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ikr....I am pretty disappointed tbh ughhhh

    • @Ferkeshu
      @Ferkeshu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Still is

    • @_Rhatsody
      @_Rhatsody 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@erikagluck why? alot of music is sampling to make something new and unique sounding. its no different than reference work

    • @ShotaroAsakura
      @ShotaroAsakura 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@erikagluck It's still original, he just remixed some few samples into an entire game's OST.

    • @Concon12316
      @Concon12316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@erikagluck i mean if you think about it every game has at least 1 sample in it. half-life is almost entirely made up of sampled sound effects, super mario 64 has many sampled sounds, doom has sampled sounds, even tv shows have sampled sound effects.

  • @inujosha
    @inujosha 3 ปีที่แล้ว +598

    Makes me wonder if Sony found Distorted Reality when making the opening sounds when you start up the PS2.

    • @mworld2611
      @mworld2611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Seems entirely possible

    • @MegaManNeo
      @MegaManNeo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I find the PS1 boot sound more iconic to be honest.
      But since Sony too has an entire music division in house, I wouldn't be surprised.

    • @tannerboyle6540
      @tannerboyle6540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      No, their composer just fell on a synthesizer

    • @rocsarchive
      @rocsarchive 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      heya! just to let you know, it was sampled because i have the bios sounds for the startup. exactly the same tempo and sound, too.

    • @josephcastle3872
      @josephcastle3872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MegaManNeo Agreed, PS1 boot kinda slaps.

  • @majoraswrath9590
    @majoraswrath9590 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1044

    Your extent of research of beyond anything else. You're something else man. Great work, keep it up!

    • @anttheman2332
      @anttheman2332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True

    • @Vitorio582
      @Vitorio582 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      He came out of nowhere and now he's one of the best gaming channels on TH-cam

    • @_deku_1361
      @_deku_1361 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup

    • @conmandouglas
      @conmandouglas 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      SO True!!

    • @vohas2691
      @vohas2691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's called free-time.

  • @calebschaaf1555
    @calebschaaf1555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I met Koji Kondo back in the '90s. He and his wife were super nice. His wife used to sit with the little kids and just listen to us talk to her. She taught me how to count to 5 in Japanese.

  • @Michael-fm8xx
    @Michael-fm8xx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    At Nintendo, I imagine this stack of decades old cds must be like the holy grail to the zelda team. It's so cool seeing how it inspired so many iconic tracks.
    I applaud your detective work on this man, couldn't have been easy!

  • @cashwarior
    @cashwarior 3 ปีที่แล้ว +634

    I'm actually surprised to see how far the sampling went in all the zelda music. It wasn't really something I really actively considered

    • @mityfresh8875
      @mityfresh8875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      seems like music sampling happens a lot and sometimes weird places. Let Mom Sleep from Jet Set Radio sampled a small bit from a British show (I know that's not a music sample but just to point out :p)
      Double fun fact I believe that same Islamic called to prayer sample is used in a few other games. I think it was made for anyone to sample seeing it's sample music lol, so I guess it shows there's a genre called sample music people must use it.

    • @LS95774
      @LS95774 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mityfresh8875 also, I remember the same Fire Temple chat was used in the original Monster Hunter on PS2 (and MHGU in 2017, as that theme returned for the new game)
      It was the Jungle area specifically

    • @weirdsailorman4070
      @weirdsailorman4070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sampling was the only way people actually created music back in day for games. With occasional actual synth melodic cues if needed or available. Because mostly keyboards were used more as samplers then actual instruments you play. Actual samplers were expensive and tech limited so in most cases two samplers plus a couple of keyboards and a PC that is it. Then rearange crap and call it a day. "I am a composer" no you're not you are a sampler... But try to explain this to the fanbase... Even tho actual creative and talented sampler people are rare. For example The Prodigy, Akira Yamaoka etc. They are fully creative with it while many just reuse shit and call it a day even go to the leghts of calling themselves composers or even given the title...

    • @Superabound2
      @Superabound2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mityfresh8875 it's actually used to subtly brainwash the West into Islam

    • @Hito_Hito_Fruit_model_UncleSam
      @Hito_Hito_Fruit_model_UncleSam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Superabound2 i doubt that exspcialy since japan hates muslims

  • @fireaza
    @fireaza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +297

    1:47 This might have been unintentional, but when you said "a small shop, nestled away amongst a hundred other similar shops" you showed a picture of a Japanese music store called "音楽の店", literally "music store". The generic-ness of the store's name is a perfect fit for this "small shop, nestled away amongst a hundred other similar shops" you described!

  • @silentzorah
    @silentzorah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    "Wait... It's all sampled?"
    "Always has been."

    • @namedrop721
      @namedrop721 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean.... yes? I was a child at the time but had been exposed to ‘ethnic’ music and also done my own foley for a puppet show I wrote so...I don’t know why this is mindblowing. It’s fun though.

    • @stungunnotapplicable1953
      @stungunnotapplicable1953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@namedrop721 He was doing a meme...

    • @ikana1de371
      @ikana1de371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s just explaining why it sorta doesnt make too much sense. Most people would understand this is a joke already.

    • @12DAMDO
      @12DAMDO 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      that's not the shocking part! the shocking part is that Koji basically invented vaporwave

    • @shadowpersonoftheunknown6245
      @shadowpersonoftheunknown6245 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is an example of using sampled music, yet making it completely their own rather than making it sound exactly the same like most seem to do

  • @Geneolgia
    @Geneolgia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    9:11 fun fact, Iceland was also used in Wind Waker as the sound effect of the wind warps that appear when you defeat a boss.

    • @Fermin-hw5pd
      @Fermin-hw5pd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, my mind was blown when I heard it xd

    • @hyperbwabrzk3990
      @hyperbwabrzk3990 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly that’s what I was just about to say

    • @LuigiSantoriniXXX16
      @LuigiSantoriniXXX16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's what I thought too!

    • @werdnayam
      @werdnayam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Such a cool little detail! The glowing treasure lights on the Great See make that sound too. It always made me slightly unnerved to hear that in WW-amazing how some bleep-bloops can teach you when to be afraid (even though, post-MM, that sound wasn't associated with the apocalypse).
      Was that sound used in any other games? Or just WW?

    • @LuigiSantoriniXXX16
      @LuigiSantoriniXXX16 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And in Spyro too.

  • @shaiky1681
    @shaiky1681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +700

    "so out of ideas and without a clue of where to go from here"
    ...Koji decided to book a trip to Japan?

    • @stpidstuff
      @stpidstuff 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Nick Robinson

    • @maxeon0937
      @maxeon0937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Well he already lived there soooo...

    • @maxeon0937
      @maxeon0937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @Calum.mp4 not a good one tbh

    • @maxeon0937
      @maxeon0937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Calum.mp4 not a good one tbh

    • @masonsaccount
      @masonsaccount 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Maxeon 09 comedy is subjective, murray
      no but for real it’s subjective

  • @rysea9855
    @rysea9855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Being able to find those original samples.. God I love the internet
    And your dedication

  • @braumishere4890
    @braumishere4890 3 ปีที่แล้ว +195

    So it sounds like that piece referencing a religious piece was actually referenced off of the actual thing. But I can at least see how it could have been done by accident now.

    • @BlastTheBat
      @BlastTheBat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was that the one that was replaced in a later version of the cart?

    • @929er13
      @929er13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BlastTheBat yes

    • @danieljensen2626
      @danieljensen2626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah, I'm sure he didn't realize what it was, probably wasn't labeled clearly.

    • @Bhalforii
      @Bhalforii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      If only Nintendo had been open about how the composer used samples from a CD and didnt know what the chanting said we couldve avoided alot of conspiracy bull. Instead they said: "We have no idea how that got there". When they actually did.

    • @merendell
      @merendell 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Particularly in the pre internet or even early internet era ya. You here some singing in a different language and you have no idea if its religious, a food shop jingle, or someone reciting the phone book to a popular tune. Without an expert on that culture if it wasnt clearly labled there was no good way to look it up. Today theres an app for that, not so in the 90s.

  • @noiselessfox7618
    @noiselessfox7618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Distorted Reality is a legend among Sampling-Librarys even available today as part of Spectrasonics Omnisphere 2. It was also used in Silent Hill 2 - 3 and in Spyro the Dragon!

  • @GG256_
    @GG256_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Sampling is an art form in it's self. Koji stumbled upon a future skill to get ahead of the curve.

  • @retromario6130
    @retromario6130 3 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    9:50 sounds like PS2 starting up

    • @kpdelaney6460
      @kpdelaney6460 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i thought the same thing

    • @MegaManNeo
      @MegaManNeo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      More like that sound from the company whose logo appears before the intro of International Superstar Soccer 64 starts.
      Yes, I'm a nerd but check it out.

    • @teamsharpened7661
      @teamsharpened7661 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then I am skipping it

    • @Fermin-hw5pd
      @Fermin-hw5pd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@teamsharpened7661 Bruh

  • @Kidgib5
    @Kidgib5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    I love Zelda music. What a hella cool history lesson.

  • @Nevir202
    @Nevir202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +315

    Surprised that just purchasing a CD allowed such a broad commercial use 😳

    • @TheJunky228
      @TheJunky228 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      same

    • @envy7522
      @envy7522 3 ปีที่แล้ว +172

      Sample cds are basically cds that you have full rights to the use of as long as you bought them. Kinda like stock footage

    • @Nevir202
      @Nevir202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@envy7522 Ya, I get that’s the purpose, but commercial licenses aren’t always unlimited.

    • @Harie0
      @Harie0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      It is a bit surprising, but I believe CDs that carry sound samples are a bit more than the regular music CD. I know some volumes of sound samples can cost a few hundred, but I think they are a few CDs at least. I never ventured to far into that realm.

    • @_sparrowhawk
      @_sparrowhawk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This whole video is confusing....

  • @samboi123
    @samboi123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    "If you entered a dungeon, you could almost smell it!"
    So when you jump into a pool, do you get Water Temple PTSD from the smell of chlorine?

    • @everthon2457
      @everthon2457 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      No cholorine there. *NO CHOLORINE THERE BRO!*

    • @lu_shulmu
      @lu_shulmu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I've always been grateful that I couldn't actually smell it because I'm sure those Like Likes emit the odour of a rotting pile of garbage in addition to stealimg your shield.

    • @samboi123
      @samboi123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@everthon2457 Well, you might get PTSD from it if you jumped into a swamp or something. I’ve never played OOT myself but I’ve heard terrible things about that temple.

    • @justcomments
      @justcomments 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ughhh I’d rather drown in the sea

    • @treeman73272
      @treeman73272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Water temple is in a lake, it smells like lake water

  • @EmberedPaws
    @EmberedPaws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Fun fact: The "Iceland" sample was also used in Wind Waker's portal ambiance after defeating a boss. Or at least it sounds the same, don't know if it's a coincidence.

  • @The8BitBigBand
    @The8BitBigBand 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Incredible video… THIS is why ocarina if time will always be my number one favorite OST of all time!! So many nuggets of composition and producing to unpack in each track!

    • @Brass319
      @Brass319 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And best of all, one of the albums has the best album name ever
      "A poke in the ear with a sharp stick" is still maing me laugh

  • @Radien
    @Radien 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    “IMMERSE LISTENERS INSTANTLY WITH THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK”

  • @DinosaurBytes
    @DinosaurBytes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Since you have Distorted Reality now, it might be worth looking into Spyro's soundtracks too, as they lean on it's samples quite heavily too!

    • @edgewatersbestguitarist1524
      @edgewatersbestguitarist1524 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Spyro games were all fun to play through.
      ...jeeze, we're on PS5 now?

    • @ashleyweeks84
      @ashleyweeks84 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also have both Distorted Reality 1 and 2.

  • @Hunterseggs
    @Hunterseggs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Stewart Copeland also used samples from Distorted Reality while composing Spyro 2. Looks like it really got around.

    • @jonnihard1090
      @jonnihard1090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whooah the drummer for the police workwd on that game???

    • @MrAlinLupu
      @MrAlinLupu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jonnihard1090 yupp! Thats right. You can even search on youtube the makeing of spyro music stewart copeland

    • @ainsbass
      @ainsbass 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jonnihard1090 Yeah he composed the soundtrack for the original PS1 trilogy, and the first game on PS2 (but we don't talk about that...)

  • @CasualSunGod42
    @CasualSunGod42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +213

    "But wait, Koji Kondo, is this legal?"
    "MIYAMOTO-SAN WILL MAKE IT LEGAL."

  • @horrisnorris6478
    @horrisnorris6478 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is my favourite TGD video yet! I'm a massive fan of 90s electronic music, a lot of which makes heavy use of sampling. I'd noticed that certain OOT tracks had that sampled feel to them, so it's amazing to hear the original samples and learn how Koji Kondo processed them. OOT and MM have some of my favourite game music ever, and it's great to get some insight into how the tracks were made, and to see how similar techniques were used to some of the 90s ambient music I love. Thanks Thomas!

  • @KorriTimigan
    @KorriTimigan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Whoa! That last sample you mentioned was used in a toy I had as a kid, it was wizard's cauldren that lit up if I remember right. As soon as the raw sample played I was sent right back about fifteen years! Who knew it was also used a Zelda game from the same period.

  • @Lovix13
    @Lovix13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    7:36 my parents are Muslim and we sometimes go to mosques during religious holidays, or just sometimes for fun. So, yeah, to me this just sounds like a familiar noise

  • @MAR1N4M1
    @MAR1N4M1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    The call to prayer is such a pretty sound.

    • @RGSTR
      @RGSTR 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When I hear him shout "Allaa-aaa-aah" I kinda wanna become Muslim.

    • @zawarudo4459
      @zawarudo4459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@RGSTR Me who is Muslim: “I am four parallel universes ahead of you”

    • @zawarudo4459
      @zawarudo4459 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Aiden-Bella-Babi y k thanks I guess

    • @boxloid
      @boxloid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RGSTR Thats great to hear as I am a Muslim as well

    • @boxloid
      @boxloid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@zawarudo4459 Assalam-u-Alikum

  • @Daniel_Coffman
    @Daniel_Coffman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That New World Order sample at about 10:02 definitely sounds like it was the inspiration for F-Zero GX's ZEN track, as well; played on Aeropolis.

  • @davestrides
    @davestrides 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i love your zelda-centric videos! i cant imagine how difficult/clunky it must've been to go through the samples with such obsolete software lmao. thank you for comparing the samples, really. hearing these gave me such nostalgia

  • @bouncyclouds276
    @bouncyclouds276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    as someone who has never played Zelda, these songs are so creepy xD

    • @sheepaleepz
      @sheepaleepz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      as someone who had played, you’re absolutely correct haha. the forest temple feels so unsettling when you’re walking through it haha

    • @justcomments
      @justcomments 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Then they are doing exactly what they’re designed for :3
      Hope you get a chance to play one of the games someday, they are a journey

    • @bouncyclouds276
      @bouncyclouds276 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@justcomments they're not really the types of games i like playing :)
      btw I remembered i did play the switch one ! i can't believe i forgot

    • @AuroraSilverFox
      @AuroraSilverFox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's what makes them so enchating. uwu

    • @Lhama666
      @Lhama666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      these specifics tracks are actually some of the darker ones because of the dark theme of their respective dungeons/moments but the full OSTs from Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask aren't made of darkness only!! really recommend that you check them out even without playing the games

  • @buttercupkat
    @buttercupkat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    4:54
    The fact that "undecu-like" is in the subtitles vocabulary makes me happy.

    • @justcomments
      @justcomments 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Top englishing happening right now

  • @Nehji_Hann
    @Nehji_Hann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Is it just me or does the cover of "Distorted Reality" look like it features Midna?
    Just blur your vision and I'm sure you'll see it.
    3:38

  • @nicolasgaticamarcotti6070
    @nicolasgaticamarcotti6070 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    i wonder now if bongo bongo was designed because of the drums background, or the other way around

  • @Korbsio
    @Korbsio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Always love the music related videos! keep up the good work!

    • @JC20XX
      @JC20XX 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're right

  • @wyrmster4886
    @wyrmster4886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    This channel is heavily underrated

  • @marcovoltage
    @marcovoltage 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was an excellent video, and I’m sure quite a feat in tracking those origins down. Kudos 🎊

  • @jhovanielperez4763
    @jhovanielperez4763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This really show how if you want to create anything using Inspiration wouldn't hurt. Almost nothing its 100% Original these days. Koji Kondo is a living legend and I hope I can see him, shake his hands and thank him for such good ost. 🤝

  • @anttheman2332
    @anttheman2332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    TH-cam HAS NOT BEEN GIVING ME NOTIFICATIONS EVEN THO I AM SUBBED WITH THE BELL

    • @gooolixx
      @gooolixx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      angery mode activate

    • @flflflflflfl
      @flflflflflfl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      THAT SOUNDS HORRIBLE HOW ARE YOU COPING SO FAR?

    • @Bryan-es2tl
      @Bryan-es2tl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unsub the bell and redo it @Ansel

  • @al201103
    @al201103 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating! Also, completely free of filler. Just the story laid out with the samples and the music. Awesome, thank you!!

  • @_SSGB_
    @_SSGB_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, this kind of thing is so fascinating to me! So many video games used to employ samples and production sound effects, I love getting to know their origin and being able to hear them in their original quality.

  • @DL-rq2vr
    @DL-rq2vr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It’s interesting that zero-g made parts used for zelda, I only knew zero-g for its vocaloids

    • @maggiethegamer1271
      @maggiethegamer1271 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      zero-g's samples were also used for HL2

    • @ghoulchan7525
      @ghoulchan7525 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      funny because Vocaloids are also basically a bunch of samples XD.

  • @StephanS
    @StephanS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got the original DR sample CD and almost every sample is linked to a game, TV show or movie somehow. Those sounds are iconic, even thought that there is a lot of rubbish and unusable sounds on it. I'm currently working on my own sample CD, inspired by that particular Distorted Reality sample cd. Wish me luck, maybe one day there will be a video with a Zelda game, using my sounds

  • @midierror
    @midierror 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so cool. Before the days of Splice and Loopmasters, a company called Time & Space used to sell sample CDs in the UK and abroad. They used to be really expensive and in a similar way to your story - were available to listen to in some stores. Amazing to find huge computers use samples as inspiration!

  • @kevinkite3418
    @kevinkite3418 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing discoveries!! I totally want to check these discs now. I love these atmospheric sounds.

  • @senritsujumpsuit6021
    @senritsujumpsuit6021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When your feeling down about your music skills remember even big projects from companies are simply samples put in a blender just mess around until it clicks

  • @mesastreatexit
    @mesastreatexit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    are those the real sample compilation album coverS?! someone could make a whole video on the aesthetic of those cover art designs lmao

  • @drake2quared
    @drake2quared 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought the chanting/flute sample from the forest temple was Link yelling. The chanter's voice and Link do sound similar, when you think about it.

  • @AuroraSilverFox
    @AuroraSilverFox 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's amazing!!

  • @midnightkitty8172
    @midnightkitty8172 3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I call this inspiration, not 'sneaky tricks'.

  • @hazimarif9042
    @hazimarif9042 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:36 : that's not the call prayer that's more of a surah or a zikir. (It's really beautiful if you know the meaning).

    • @MrDoodleBrian
      @MrDoodleBrian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hate, they were put the song in place with lava.

    • @hazimarif9042
      @hazimarif9042 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrDoodleBrian reminds you of allah before you go to hell 😌😌

  • @HumanoidMachine
    @HumanoidMachine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those exact CDs were very common in the industry at that time. You can hear those same samples in a variety of games from Spyro to the entire Silent Hill series.

  • @davidconlee2196
    @davidconlee2196 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a cool video! I'm glad Kondo was able to find some cool samples to help generate ambience music.

  • @tileguy918
    @tileguy918 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Tom you’re the best TH-camr for these videos, and yet you hardly pull more views than the channels with 60k subs

  • @Blueeyedmerle
    @Blueeyedmerle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is an amazing video, thomas. Great job! Top notch research. As soemone who samples a lot of music this is very fascinating

  • @DrawtoonzStudio
    @DrawtoonzStudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This has been a fascinating topic for me for years. Stock samples and tracks are and always have been used everywhere, and I love it when a sound or a song I've recognized before ends up being found. Heck, even when something hasn't yet been uncovered, it's fun to pick up on a sound you've heard from one piece of media playing somewhere completely different. For example, there's a drum beat at the beginning of the Jojo's Bizarre Adventure song "I'm in Control" that I've heard in the scores of a couple other shows (and a movie). It doesn't really matter what library it's actually from, I just like noticing these sorts of things.

  • @LocalManMakesMusic
    @LocalManMakesMusic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You make it seem like he stumbled into a magical shop and found a Mogwai. Those kinds of sample CDs were well known and widely used by professional media composers of the time. I find it hard to believe Koji Kondo wasn’t already familiar with them.
    That said, nice work tracking down and matching the source material. I’m sure those are as rare today as they were common place at the time.

    • @counterinfluencer5684
      @counterinfluencer5684 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are right on the money @Local Man. THOMAS completely fabricated that part of the story, because Koji Kondo had already used these exact same CDs to make the Starfox 64 and Mario 64 music.
      THOMAS didn't do the sample research either, he ripped off all of these other TH-camrs who already did the work:
      GAME TRAILERS Ocarina Of Time Episode (2013)
      th-cam.com/video/U34MFcJdGCo/w-d-xo.html
      PYTHON BLUE archive of Distorted Reality samples (2013)
      th-cam.com/video/l8e8DbXOa7E/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=PythonBlue
      WANNATRADEPLANTS Ocarina of Time Library Samples (2017)
      th-cam.com/video/Wpp7U-f5JD8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=WannaTradePants
      SAVE DATA Music of Ocarina Of Time (May 2, 2020)
      th-cam.com/video/FmaTX53-nUM/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=SaveData
      The reason why THOMAS blurs the "sample source" website in his video is because he didn't actually find them, he just copied the content from these videos above. There are entire forums dedicated to researching this, and these samples have been archived on archive.org - but THOMAS wouldn't know this because he didn't do the research and he lied about the overall narrative for Koji Kondo.
      THOMAS is a total TH-camr fraud.

  • @hollywang227
    @hollywang227 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Honestly the most terrifying TGD video ever.

  • @sohaybm.3216
    @sohaybm.3216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Okay so, I'm muslim and the "call to prayer" sample is NOT a call to prayer. It's actually the first part of one of the last surats : al-ikhlas. It looks like it would be taken straight from quran recitations, they circulated a lot over time. Who knows, maybe it's from a famous coranic recitation ?

    • @wiredcoati
      @wiredcoati 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool. Thanks for your perspective on this particular element.
      Knowledge is power.

    • @iceman00behave
      @iceman00behave 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info, as I have wondered about this ever since it was removed from later versions of the game. Can you specify which lines exactly from Al-Ikhlas are used? I found the full translation, but noted that you said it was only the first part.
      EDIT: After trying my best to decipher the words of the in-game sample (probably due to audio compression), the snippet used in this video appears to be 2 lines, with the first being repeated multiple times. This comes from the last 2 lines of Al-Ikhlas...
      _Lam yalid walami yū lad_
      _Wala mia yaku l-lahū kufu’an aḥad_
      This (according to the webpage I found), translates to:
      _He begets not, nor he was begotten_
      _There is no one like him. And there is none co-equal or comparable to Him._
      It seems that the sample straight from the CD at 7:38 is the full 4 verses.

    • @silmiha5239
      @silmiha5239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In the sample CD, they recite just the first 2 lines from surah al-Ikhlas, then segue into a takbeer call(?) commonly used in Eid days:
      Allaahu akbar, wa Lillaahi’l-hamd (Allah is Most Great, and all praise be to Allah)

  • @Helsionium
    @Helsionium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    8:21 Motoi Sakuraba used the same sample (and probably others from the same set) in his Baten Kaitos track "Rumbling of the Earth". And the "ICELAND" sample was re-used in Wind Waker as the sound effect for the warp portals at the end of the dungeons.

  • @lucasmelo010
    @lucasmelo010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    After all those Zelda videos, you still managed to make an interesting one. Thanks!

  • @DavidStarrUSA
    @DavidStarrUSA 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Kondo finding the shop is like Myamoto taking that exploration as a child. They were there to witness the lighting strike, twice. And we are all so so thankful for that!!

  • @Zizaco
    @Zizaco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I instantly recognized some of these samples from silent hill. I googled and found out that they used these same CDs

  • @wallywutsizface6346
    @wallywutsizface6346 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is so cool! Awesome example of how sampling can help make music even better.

  • @beyondthesky2140
    @beyondthesky2140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is crazy. Definitely one of my favourite videos you've made so far!
    Oh, and may I add? If I'm correct, I feel like I hear that folk music style sample in Zant's battle theme as well. Or it may just be me.

  • @_laryssa
    @_laryssa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Man i always forget that this channel is name "Thomas Game Docs" instead of "Nintendo Game Docs"

  • @Ryaify
    @Ryaify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've Never Played Zelda But This Is A Good Video

  • @editdev
    @editdev 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing as always. love watching ur vids as inspiration

  • @zackwatson8358
    @zackwatson8358 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to have a CD of various Zelda songs and I would listen to that mug religiously It truly is a masterpiece

  • @Randinator
    @Randinator 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    10:11 Giygas

  • @xplaygamer
    @xplaygamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm impressed you were able to track all of this down.

  • @PenniniFroze
    @PenniniFroze 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOO another Thomas Game Docs video

  • @daphne-blue
    @daphne-blue 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another solid video, great work 👍🏼✨

  • @FerHivore
    @FerHivore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Who’da thunk listening to new music could be helpful when composing new music.

    • @typho6279
      @typho6279 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This was of course only effective in the past

    • @myamacke4159
      @myamacke4159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@typho6279 not really, it’s pretty common to listen to other music for ideas or inspiration and sampling is still incredibly common place, it’s just made much easier via the internet’s massive catalogs of music

    • @typho6279
      @typho6279 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@myamacke4159 It has been scientifically proven that you can't find inspiration in music made after 2003

    • @user-kb1su7mg1g
      @user-kb1su7mg1g 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@typho6279 what did you mean by this

    • @2thBrush
      @2thBrush 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@typho6279 I’d love a source on this wild claim

  • @Mote.
    @Mote. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Zelda music is king

    • @vibe-oz2qu
      @vibe-oz2qu 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought this as well. Then I played chrono trigger.

  • @TheSecretProvider
    @TheSecretProvider 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    10:02 sounds like some Gamelan music in particular. Super cool to find out video games are part of the reason I like sampling based music so much.

  • @melee9183
    @melee9183 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is actually so interesting love this!

  • @HyruleGamer
    @HyruleGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    LOVED this video, super interesting secrets. I never knew any of these! :D

    • @anttheman2332
      @anttheman2332 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ayyyy I know you you make cool content

    • @HyruleGamer
      @HyruleGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@anttheman2332 Why thank you 🙏

    • @christopherr8441
      @christopherr8441 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yo, Hyrule Gamer is here?!?!

    • @HyruleGamer
      @HyruleGamer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@christopherr8441 Yessssir

  • @SireOblivion
    @SireOblivion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How were you even able to track these CDs down? Amazing.

  • @SamPearman
    @SamPearman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here I was thinking I was gunna sub to you purely because of the extensive research here, but instead I find out I'm already subbed.

  • @jonpatchmodular
    @jonpatchmodular ปีที่แล้ว

    10:50 I mean, the shop was close to his office, and he was in real need of inspiration, so maybe he would have stumbled upon it another day, or he might have found sample CD's elsewhere... Maybe he would have recorded his own samples? In any case, amazing work tracking those samples down, this was a VERY inspiring video for an ambient musician as myself (although my technique normally relies more on synthesis than sampling). Thank you for this awesome video

  • @parsuli.
    @parsuli. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey, so great video with a lot of research but I have a question out of pure curiosity: why did you put a timestamp to skip to at 6:46? What is a reason one may not want to hear the call to prayer?

    • @oversleep3608
      @oversleep3608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Some people live under a rock and hate everyone that is different in any ideology, faith, skin color, ect. I'm kind of curious as "why" as well except; conjecture could be reached that it was to cater towards those blinded by prejudice and small views.

    • @thegrim418
      @thegrim418 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oversleep3608 Could be for Muslims themselves. I know they consider it heresy for someone to just say Mohammad without his titles. Perhaps he considered some may take similar issue with a distorted version of their call to prayer.

  • @WillSellari
    @WillSellari 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think you might be selling these compositions a bit short when it comes to using samples. Prior to samples, people used synthesis and emulation to get at sounds and it wasn’t frowned upon or described as “this is going to change the way you hear the Neptunes once you find out what this Korg sounds like!”. I think the meaningful thing about a composers job is to sew together different elements and influences to inform the scene, or in this case stage, in which they’re writing for. The other thing I think people often forget is that this wasn’t some purest passion project, this was a job. And not only was it a job but an AAA title for a giant corporation, even if it’s an amazing an lovable corporation.

  • @sabo-vf3xj
    @sabo-vf3xj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:48
    I have the same CD. If anybody's interested, the tracks name is "ENIGMATIC.wav" from the "Drones" section.
    Pretty good stuff, btw.

  • @Fuzy2K
    @Fuzy2K 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Jabu-Jabu percussion is also in the song A Thousand Years by Sting off his album Brand New Day :D

  • @danjohnson3203
    @danjohnson3203 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    This guy's just slappin' music together. Meanwhile my professors get all riled up when I don't put quotation marks, page number and citation around any two-word combination.

    • @SusanIvanova2257
      @SusanIvanova2257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I mean, of they are specifically sample CDs then I'd assume they were released under a license where this use is legal and intended. Kind of like buying a stock photo.

  • @UnsightlyThinker
    @UnsightlyThinker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The two dislikes are Ganon and Ganondorf.

  • @JoPhiGURU
    @JoPhiGURU 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh boy! Your vid came as called! It helped me out, I think I should proceed with resampling... Wonderful influence! Thx, T.!

  • @Bangulo
    @Bangulo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic work dude! As a musician and composer! this is some awesome detective work! that last sample in the distorted reality also sounds like the sound used in silent hill 1, In one of the cutscenes,

  • @mikemaster43
    @mikemaster43 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a very impressive research. So fuckin Good. All music producers and sound designers are very grateful for this

  • @I-OMusic
    @I-OMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "If you don't want to hear the Islamic call to prayer"
    What a nice thing to do, going out of your way for our muslim neighbours like that.

    • @pyr3x849
      @pyr3x849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I also had a rather weird feeling about that comment...

    • @talhakayar
      @talhakayar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Acutally it’s not a problem nor offensive imo, especially muslims are very sensitive about call to prayers and music being played together (I’ve even seen people turn their tv down) and actually they might be the ones who wants to skip it. Nonetheless being safe better than sorry right?

  • @TheScienceguy77
    @TheScienceguy77 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is awesome, it really puts the OSTs for OoT/MM into perspective.

  • @KiraSlith
    @KiraSlith 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sega also made good use of that Ethic Flavors CD, specifically the clip at 8:25 is sampled repeatedly in Phantasy Star Online, most obvious is it's use for Dark Falz' second battle theme "Nearest Place To The Heaven Part 2" where's it's played as notation, other clips on that CD were taken for PSU's Dagora City and Kugu Desert themes much later.

  • @theohuotaridellgren5258
    @theohuotaridellgren5258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Why does every british guy say "Ocariner of Time"?

    • @axiezimmah
      @axiezimmah 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lindybeige has a video on that

    • @poppy6635
      @poppy6635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      How do you say it? Ocarinawww?

    • @theohuotaridellgren5258
      @theohuotaridellgren5258 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@poppy6635 no I don’t. STFU I didn’t ask you. Bottha of wattah

    • @theohuotaridellgren5258
      @theohuotaridellgren5258 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@poppy6635 anyway, let’s talk about your videos. BORING

    • @poppy6635
      @poppy6635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theohuotaridellgren5258 okay haha

  • @NikolajLepka
    @NikolajLepka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    "ethnic sounding" is such a weird phrase; literally everyone on Earth is ethnic something, it's the least descriptive descriptor of anything ever.

    • @ThomasGameDocs
      @ThomasGameDocs  3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      That's a good point! I think the word "ethnic" was in my head when I was writing the script, since about half the album names have the word ethnic in them. But in retrospect, I should've used a better description!

    • @user-kb1su7mg1g
      @user-kb1su7mg1g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its because you're an sjw. now take your medication.

    • @NikolajLepka
      @NikolajLepka 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@user-kb1su7mg1g you're just mad Ukrainians don't consider themselves Russian

    • @user-kb1su7mg1g
      @user-kb1su7mg1g 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@NikolajLepka medication now

    • @sep_timius
      @sep_timius 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @UCFMx7CXNTBVhI1RY8CR1-iQ "ethnic" used to describe traditional language, music or people has been considered offensive for years, please shut up

  • @paulhammons7537
    @paulhammons7537 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had no idea, thanks for the information!

  • @sheimr1882
    @sheimr1882 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sample from 8:55 is also used for the sound effect for the dungeon exit when you defeat a boss in The Windwaker.