20:05 In her comics here, Atom Eve says with tears in her eyes: "For one moment I had the power. I could have fixed it. ..I could have brought you back. But I used it for revenge instead. ..I'm sorry mom and dad. ..I love you." I think those lines have a really powerful emotional impact. Also, as her last standing brother dissolves, he says (in her comics) "...They don't care about us now. ..Now they have you. ..Goodbye, Eve." Maybe they could have kept all of these lines in the episode as well.
They cut a really important line from the ending in the comic. When she powers up and makes him forget, she tells him that for a moment he could feel and control it all, she had the power to restore her mother, her family, but instead she wasted it on revenge.
I personally don’t think it was important, since it’s basically just spoon feeding us the tragedy of it all when I think it’s already shown quite well. But it’s a great comic line
@@lotus2001The problem is you might never really get that if you don't know the comics, that she had the power to save them. You could just take it was her having the power to make him forget her and never think twice about whether that power could be used for something else.
Tatiana Maslany has unfairly been criticised for poor acting by people who only know her from She-Hulk. Anyone who watched Orphan Black knows what she can do.
Lowkey, but I love how you completely skirted around the “Amber problem” when talking about Mark’s love life at the beginning of the video. ;-) I really liked how Brandyworth’s morals being kind of skewed to start (but not nonexistent) tracks with his actions; he swapped baby Eve with a conveniently-dead infant and tracked her out of remorse for what he’d done to her. The siblings, “Phase Two” specifically, has understandable reasons to see him in contempt… but he’s not a monster like his former colleagues. And it’s easy to see why Eve sees him as a father.
It's so cool to see you react to this! I think her dad is processsing doubts about his daughter's parentage. Eve is brilliantly green eyed and reheaded. Both recessive traits. Both parents are shades of brown with dark brown eyes. He can tell she isn't his, and you wouldn't generally consider "switched at birth" as a possibility. The obvious go to is that his wife had an affair, but he's afraid to confront it so it just festers as an unspoken resentment.
The fact that they don’t know that Eve isn’t either of theirs, nonetheless, means that his bad attitude is in spite of that rather than because of it. Which I appreciate because it’s clearly on him for being distant: if Samantha had actually been their daughter but everything else was the same, his crummy attitude would’ve been the same more or less.
Lance Reddick was phenomenal in The Wire, if you haven't seen that. It's one of the top five or top ten greatest TV shows for almost everyone who's seen it, up there with Breaking Bad and Avatar: The Last Air Bender (though closer tonally to the former than the latter).
Agree re Lance Reddick, but, imvho, The Wire, along with The Sopranos, is either #2 or #3, no lower, (Band of Brothers is clear at #1 - yeah I know it's a miniseries, pfft) in tv goat terms. opinions opinions etc of course. 🙂👍 with that said, I'm not sure Breaking Bad is top 20 for me, so what does MY opinion matter. 😅 (It IS brilliant but cos I'm old I remember so much more stuff & can't be sure I put it above stuff like Engrenage, Cracker, M*A*S*H*, Fawlty Towers, It's Garry Shandling's Show & others that broke the mold or set new trends) 🤷♂️
NO SPOILERS FYI: Atom Eve has the same power set as Marvel Comics Molecule Man (Owen Reece), but hers is to a lesser extent. She has similar mental block limitations that Molecule Man had in his introduction back in 1963. Owen Reece's mental blocks (before he overcame them) included all organic tissue. In Eve's case - she has mental blocks preventing her from affecting living tissue. This block doesn't seem to affect her with living plant tissue as we have seen her growing trees, etc. Since then, Molecule Man broke through his mental block limitations. The "Marvel Comic Book Power Creep & Retcons" came in, making Owen evolve into a being of immense "Reality Bending Multiversal Power".
Brandyworth explained it directly. "Never people or animals" What's interesting is because it's a mental block, there is room for the mind to interpret and work around it. What's an "animal" exactly? Is an insect an animal? Could she create swarms of recluse spiders?
"I hate that I love him so much" is it the voice? I'd kill for a voice that cool, and I'd give a REALLY mean wedgie to get salt-and-pepper hair that cool...
There's something to be said for the idea that Eve sees matter as somewhat less than real because she can restructure it at will, but that people, living things, are MORE real to her because they have their own independent existence that her conditioning won't let her touch.
As a comic reader who read it a pretty long time ago and therefore doesn't remember a whole lot, I do remember one thing: Atom Eve might be one of the most absurd and broken characters ever. I think this special did a good job into cueing us to it.
So Eve is like a combination of Green Lantern and Scarlet Witch if I got that right then her stepfather can go to hell so I guess he thinks Albert Einstein was a freak omg
Even tho we saw many, many amaizng villans and antiheros, when Homlander or Omniman's face goes angry for second, our buttcheeks are crack'd, don't lie, we all do it.
Lance Reddick... He was such a legend, such a unique voice. 16:01 See 12:41 It really speaks for Eve's character that she is such a good person, despite having such a fucked up past. When she momentarily lost that block she could've also done SO much worse to those guys. She could've turned them into soup, or something that would give them lifelong pain and suffering. This episode could've literally been a villains tragic backstory. Also, those were a LOT of different emotions Nolan went through in those short few seconds there.
It’s easier to hate a banal character who is petty and plain unlikeable, than it is a much more dangerously powerful villain with a body count who has charisma…
I really don’t like when characters are written like her dad. I know it’s a cartoon superhero show, but a parent/spouse written to be so simplistically like a complete asshole makes the other characters who still love him seem like dummies. Like, he can be a dick, but give him some nuance so you understand why people aren’t just leaving him like any sane person would
I disagree. I have seen enough case of people just like Adam being loved for literally no good reasons, while being absolute jerks, in real life to know that sometipmes it's just like that... Hell, even Adam, both in S1 and S2, shows at least some level of concern for Samantha, and you can almost understand how he wants to protect her but is blocked by his view of how things should be in what he consider like the "norm". I've known worse people being worse for absolutely no reasons at all.
I've been watching channels the read the comics to see what could happen, but it's still not really "spoilers" because they've already started changing things from the comic book, so you still don't really know what will happen on the show, maybe just another alernate universe, but I think we follow the only one where he didn't join with his dad.
So at the beginning of S2 we get to see Mark and Nolan team up to take over earth, and according to Angstrom Levy that's the case in most universes. I think the key difference between the universe we are watching and most others isn't Mark, it's Nolan. In other universe Nolan might have been focused on raising Mark to be a viltrumite rather than letting him be a regular earth kid.
I don’t think I’ve wanted to beat the sh*t out of a fictional character more than I do to Eve’s dad. Quite possibly my least favorite character in the whole series lmao
There are people like Adam everywhere. Scared of things they don't understand, that are outside the norm, that don't fit into their worldview - this leads to lashing out. Think of all the LGBTQIA folk rejected by their family, just as an example. Or racism - honestly, there's a lot of places this behaviour comes up. It doesn't make it a good thing, but it's not hard to understand. Humans aren't particularly evolved, when you think about it...
I love the fact that both Invincible and Atom Eve defeated the same guy as their first supervillain. ^^
Imagine what that's like for him. He thinks he's someone, but keeps getting shit on by teenage superhumans just testing out their new powers.
@@arishunt9125 dude is literally the tutorial boss.
Things they have in common when they get to talk about when they date
20:05 In her comics here, Atom Eve says with tears in her eyes: "For one moment I had the power. I could have fixed it. ..I could have brought you back. But I used it for revenge instead. ..I'm sorry mom and dad. ..I love you." I think those lines have a really powerful emotional impact. Also, as her last standing brother dissolves, he says (in her comics) "...They don't care about us now. ..Now they have you. ..Goodbye, Eve." Maybe they could have kept all of these lines in the episode as well.
They cut a really important line from the ending in the comic. When she powers up and makes him forget, she tells him that for a moment he could feel and control it all, she had the power to restore her mother, her family, but instead she wasted it on revenge.
I personally don’t think it was important, since it’s basically just spoon feeding us the tragedy of it all when I think it’s already shown quite well. But it’s a great comic line
@@lotus2001The problem is you might never really get that if you don't know the comics, that she had the power to save them. You could just take it was her having the power to make him forget her and never think twice about whether that power could be used for something else.
Notice that she subconsciously? fully healed herself, too, when she briefly broke through the mental block.
When Mark and Eve date
1. First villain Killcannon.
2. First time they met Flaxan invasion
3 First team up Doc Seismic
The lizard queen at the beginning is played by Tatiana Maslani (spelling? She-Hulk)
Omg I love her and I didn’t even realize that it was her!
Tatiana Maslany has unfairly been criticised for poor acting by people who only know her from She-Hulk. Anyone who watched Orphan Black knows what she can do.
She acted superbly for what she was given in “She-Hulk” (it wasn’t all bad either, just mostly mediocre writing).
My heart hurt when I heard Lance Reddicks smooth, sultry voice. Gone too soon. RIP.
Lowkey, but I love how you completely skirted around the “Amber problem” when talking about Mark’s love life at the beginning of the video. ;-)
I really liked how Brandyworth’s morals being kind of skewed to start (but not nonexistent) tracks with his actions; he swapped baby Eve with a conveniently-dead infant and tracked her out of remorse for what he’d done to her. The siblings, “Phase Two” specifically, has understandable reasons to see him in contempt… but he’s not a monster like his former colleagues. And it’s easy to see why Eve sees him as a father.
I really appreciate you and Xander taking the time to edit this for us
It's so cool to see you react to this!
I think her dad is processsing doubts about his daughter's parentage. Eve is brilliantly green eyed and reheaded. Both recessive traits. Both parents are shades of brown with dark brown eyes. He can tell she isn't his, and you wouldn't generally consider "switched at birth" as a possibility. The obvious go to is that his wife had an affair, but he's afraid to confront it so it just festers as an unspoken resentment.
The fact that they don’t know that Eve isn’t either of theirs, nonetheless, means that his bad attitude is in spite of that rather than because of it. Which I appreciate because it’s clearly on him for being distant: if Samantha had actually been their daughter but everything else was the same, his crummy attitude would’ve been the same more or less.
Atom Eve's the one I think of when I hear the old quote "I will send them without wings, so that no-one will know they are angels..."
16:01 that was a mistake I made in the moment too, but she just mended her costume since she "can't" alter living tissue. Only caught it on rewatch
i wasn’t expecting this to drop today but excited it did! i personally thought this episode has the best action sequence in all of the series so far.
Lance Reddick was phenomenal in The Wire, if you haven't seen that. It's one of the top five or top ten greatest TV shows for almost everyone who's seen it, up there with Breaking Bad and Avatar: The Last Air Bender (though closer tonally to the former than the latter).
Agree re Lance Reddick, but, imvho, The Wire, along with The Sopranos, is either #2 or #3, no lower, (Band of Brothers is clear at #1 - yeah I know it's a miniseries, pfft) in tv goat terms.
opinions opinions etc of course. 🙂👍
with that said, I'm not sure Breaking Bad is top 20 for me, so what does MY opinion matter. 😅
(It IS brilliant but cos I'm old I remember so much more stuff & can't be sure I put it above stuff like Engrenage, Cracker, M*A*S*H*, Fawlty Towers, It's Garry Shandling's Show & others that broke the mold or set new trends) 🤷♂️
Rest in Peace Commander Zavala 🫡
Best superhero speech EVER!!!
“I DEFY you to even remember who I am!”
NO SPOILERS FYI: Atom Eve has the same power set as Marvel Comics Molecule Man (Owen Reece), but hers is to a lesser extent. She has similar mental block limitations that Molecule Man had in his introduction back in 1963.
Owen Reece's mental blocks (before he overcame them) included all organic tissue. In Eve's case - she has mental blocks preventing her from affecting living tissue. This block doesn't seem to affect her with living plant tissue as we have seen her growing trees, etc.
Since then, Molecule Man broke through his mental block limitations. The "Marvel Comic Book Power Creep & Retcons" came in, making Owen evolve into a being of immense "Reality Bending Multiversal Power".
I originally thought of Alchemy, tbh.
But yeah, I guess that works, too.
Brandyworth explained it directly. "Never people or animals" What's interesting is because it's a mental block, there is room for the mind to interpret and work around it. What's an "animal" exactly? Is an insect an animal? Could she create swarms of recluse spiders?
"I hate that I love him so much" is it the voice? I'd kill for a voice that cool, and I'd give a REALLY mean wedgie to get salt-and-pepper hair that cool...
this was awesome, glad you did a reaction to it
Love to see your reaction to this one
special shoutouts to a lot of my friends who worked on this episode!
There's something to be said for the idea that Eve sees matter as somewhat less than real because she can restructure it at will, but that people, living things, are MORE real to her because they have their own independent existence that her conditioning won't let her touch.
So. You've never seen the rage of stupid parents toward smart children.
I envy you.
I truly do.
Been waiting for this! Thank you!
10:20 I feel you. Honestly I like both cream cheese and olives, but combining them on a sandwich just sounds yuck.
She can’t affect living things.. meaning she can’t heal herself
As a comic reader who read it a pretty long time ago and therefore doesn't remember a whole lot, I do remember one thing: Atom Eve might be one of the most absurd and broken characters ever.
I think this special did a good job into cueing us to it.
Loved this special and so glad your reacting to it
what are the chances we can get a reaction to cyberpunk edgerunners? its a masterpiece
So Eve is like a combination of Green Lantern and Scarlet Witch if I got that right then her stepfather can go to hell so I guess he thinks Albert Einstein was a freak omg
Eve is basically Owen Reece, The Molecule Man from Marvel Comics .
Atom Eve has the most terrifying powers, she could potentially destroy the entire planet.
Even tho we saw many, many amaizng villans and antiheros, when Homlander or Omniman's face goes angry for second, our buttcheeks are crack'd, don't lie, we all do it.
Lance Reddick... He was such a legend, such a unique voice.
16:01 See 12:41
It really speaks for Eve's character that she is such a good person, despite having such a fucked up past. When she momentarily lost that block she could've also done SO much worse to those guys. She could've turned them into soup, or something that would give them lifelong pain and suffering. This episode could've literally been a villains tragic backstory.
Also, those were a LOT of different emotions Nolan went through in those short few seconds there.
Yeah I'm gonna miss him yelling at Aloy in the Horizon Zero games. 😢😢
Hot take Eve's dad is worse than Mark's dad
It’s easier to hate a banal character who is petty and plain unlikeable, than it is a much more dangerously powerful villain with a body count who has charisma…
Rex is my favorite thank you very much
Neat
I really don’t like when characters are written like her dad. I know it’s a cartoon superhero show, but a parent/spouse written to be so simplistically like a complete asshole makes the other characters who still love him seem like dummies. Like, he can be a dick, but give him some nuance so you understand why people aren’t just leaving him like any sane person would
100% agree. Tell us why he’s like this, at least. Give us a little bit of understanding.
I disagree. I have seen enough case of people just like Adam being loved for literally no good reasons, while being absolute jerks, in real life to know that sometipmes it's just like that...
Hell, even Adam, both in S1 and S2, shows at least some level of concern for Samantha, and you can almost understand how he wants to protect her but is blocked by his view of how things should be in what he consider like the "norm". I've known worse people being worse for absolutely no reasons at all.
i really dont know this series. can someone elaborate a bit about it?
This is a special episode of a show called "Invincible", that was released between season 1 and 2. Season 2 just started on Amazon Prime.
I've been watching channels the read the comics to see what could happen, but it's still not really "spoilers" because they've already started changing things from the comic book, so you still don't really know what will happen on the show, maybe just another alernate universe, but I think we follow the only one where he didn't join with his dad.
I love how you hate her dad more than Ozai xD , also how all.reactors agree cream cheese and olives sounds gross
5:26 but for a good reason
So at the beginning of S2 we get to see Mark and Nolan team up to take over earth, and according to Angstrom Levy that's the case in most universes. I think the key difference between the universe we are watching and most others isn't Mark, it's Nolan. In other universe Nolan might have been focused on raising Mark to be a viltrumite rather than letting him be a regular earth kid.
Two minutes and a half?
That might have been your shortest intro ever!
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I don’t think I’ve wanted to beat the sh*t out of a fictional character more than I do to Eve’s dad. Quite possibly my least favorite character in the whole series lmao
Funnygirl is your necklass a molecule?
Caffeine 😬
There are people like Adam everywhere. Scared of things they don't understand, that are outside the norm, that don't fit into their worldview - this leads to lashing out. Think of all the LGBTQIA folk rejected by their family, just as an example. Or racism - honestly, there's a lot of places this behaviour comes up. It doesn't make it a good thing, but it's not hard to understand. Humans aren't particularly evolved, when you think about it...