The Deadly Sin of PRIDE! (Meaning and Examples)

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  • 7 Deadly sins - the deadly sin of PRIDE. This is the chief of all deadly sins and the biggest to drag people to hell. In this video series, we are discussing the 7 deadly sins, and in this video, pride, its meaning, examples, and tips on how to overcome this sin.
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  • @Nick-wn1xw
    @Nick-wn1xw ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I just cringe when I hear things like "I'm proud to be a Catholic". Or Christian. We've forgotten the proper words: grateful, thankful.

    • @calutv5813
      @calutv5813 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i think that this "cringe" emotion is also pride

    • @mrbuck5059
      @mrbuck5059 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Or "youre lucky you have a good wife or husband." Blessed is the right word.

  • @kasiaseubert
    @kasiaseubert ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another huge form of pride that humans are so susceptible to is protecting our egos. Not being willing to admit when you're wrong or apologizing when you should. Or justifying things you do so you don't have to feel bad. These are very subtle and require a lot of self awareness and humility to overcome.

  • @GrandmaLynn
    @GrandmaLynn ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you, Bryan, for clearly explaining the differences between good and sinful pride. So many have it so wrong, that it can create havoc in their mind and soul! God bless you and your family!

  • @luthangangmei121
    @luthangangmei121 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for explaining pride so well.

  • @Robyn53
    @Robyn53 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for this ! I really needed to hear this

  • @Eulampia
    @Eulampia ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We all needed to hear this because it’s so true and good. I think most of us can get caught up in these qualities without realizing that it’s damaging . Thank you Brian for another epic video ! It was like a bucket of cold water splashing on the face !
    God bless you and your family ✝️🙏🏼✨🕯️🕊️

  • @LovedbyJesus23
    @LovedbyJesus23 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video. I’m excited for this series!🥰

  • @raymundbelleza1279
    @raymundbelleza1279 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the encouragement, God bless you.

  • @MM22272
    @MM22272 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I needed this! What a blessing!

  • @marcihf217
    @marcihf217 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Bryan for these talks.

  • @englishproit
    @englishproit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much for this video!

  • @patricksee10
    @patricksee10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Congratulations Bryan on this very important and uplifting vid

  • @nelsonluciamiranda462
    @nelsonluciamiranda462 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fantastic break down 😊

  • @marietav7342
    @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "To acknowledge the gifts of God in us is not pride, but to attribute them to ourselves is." - St.Therese of Lisieux

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      False humility is also pride.

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      The opposite of pride is humility.
      The mother of all deadly sins is pride. It means when you have pride and you don't control it, your sin increases or multiplies as well.
      The mother of all virtues is humility. It means if your humility grows, others virtues increase in you also.
      Truth is humility. Humility is truth.

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are 2 kinds of pride:
      1) sinful pride
      2) good/holy pride

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      Almost all people have sinful pride including very holy and very spiritual person but in different degrees. Those who accused me of being prideful are correct in one side because I still have some sinful pride but incorrect in other side because I am not as prideful as they think. People who have no sinful pride are infants or children who have not yet reached the use of reason, people having full mental retardation and people who have already reached spiritual perfection.

    • @TheTwinHearts
      @TheTwinHearts ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marietav7342 hello, 🤗 you can see my response to "not youraveragecentris"..
      Sobrang prideful.. grabe!!! 100th floor Yun angas! 😅 Lol

  • @fionamoody1432
    @fionamoody1432 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for expanding on this Brian. Not enough has been shared on deadly sins and if done then there was not enough clarity.

  • @jasonwilliamson8027
    @jasonwilliamson8027 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Prayer intention.. please pray for me jason and for my godmother Diane and for all of our families and friends and neighbors for conversion and salvation and holiness and healing and for our journeys of faith

  • @user-rv5ms9oq2k
    @user-rv5ms9oq2k ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

  • @navinfernandes747
    @navinfernandes747 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for this video Brian... thanks for making a distinction between pride and false humility ( I am good for nothing ).. I learnt this the hard way.. the solution i found is what you mentioned in the video, when someone praises you, give the glory to God and automatically I realised that I am created and I dont own the good I do.. similarly when life is going too bad, praising God and asking for strength to come out of the situation has helped me..

  • @AbsurdScandal
    @AbsurdScandal ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really appreciate the example you gave of your own struggle with some pride at a talk! And it really prompted the question for me...is it always sinful to accept & enjoy compliments & praise? Not in the prideful sense of saying _"Yeah, I KNOW that! Of course! I'm the stuff!"_ which is obviously bad, but just saying _"Thanks for the praise! Appreciate it!"_ and taking some real enjoyment in the praise? Now the example you gave of sharing your testimony *IS* indeed sinful pride because any grace or spiritual benefit comes directly from God, *NOT* us, and I'm glad you are open enough to use your own fault as an example in this! I myself intuitively recognise we should give *all* glory to God in anything that lifts people closer to Him, directly or indirectly, and I thank God He gave me the grace to not be influenced by praise in this! But I still wonder whether or not one CAN still enjoy praise in *some other* cases perhaps - maybe for non-religious accomplishments or actions, such as sports or winning at games you play with friends? What do you think?

  • @Gee21302
    @Gee21302 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this great video. Could you go further into a topic about pride and fraternal correction? Such as noticing someone else's sin (which you mentioned) and when it is not prideful to say something to that person if we should only be focusing on our own sins.

  • @williamavitt8264
    @williamavitt8264 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Pride was Luther's downfall, and look at the havok his pride has wrought

    • @CatholicTruthOfficial
      @CatholicTruthOfficial  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      True!

    • @williamavitt8264
      @williamavitt8264 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Not Your Average Centrist There was no "stranglehold," there was the truth, and Luther preached comforting untruths. Faith Alone contradicts Scripture

    • @andreeattieh2963
      @andreeattieh2963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@notyouraveragecentrist4536 those verses don't say anything about faith alone since faith alone is unbiblical and wrong

    • @williamavitt8264
      @williamavitt8264 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Not Your Average Centrist why do I need anything OTHER than James 2:24? James is in the Bible, therefore Fsith Alone contradicts the Bible. You don't get to pick and choose which parts of the Bible you accept

    • @williamavitt8264
      @williamavitt8264 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notyouraveragecentrist4536 I can explain to you why you don't understand each and every one of those 10 verses. It will mostly come down to you not understanding the difference between "works of the law" and "good works." They aren't the same

  • @mariamcogill45
    @mariamcogill45 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    body pride and the dangers of lack of body pride (circumcision)etc

  • @magaman6353
    @magaman6353 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @7:21: Humility is NOT thinking that others are better than you.
    And pride does not consist in knowing that you are better than others.
    Our Lady, was the greatest human being ever AND also the most humble.
    And she knew that she was.
    She states in her Magnificat [Luke 1:46-55]:
    "My SOUL MAGNIFIES THE LORD,
    and my spirit rejoices in God my Savior,
    for God has looked with favour on the lowliness of the Almighty’s servant.
    Surely, from now on ALL GENERATIONS WILL CALL ME BLESSED.
    for the Mighty One has done great things for me,
    and holy is God’s name..."
    Mary is aware of being the crown of humanity, how could she not, but attributes her greatness to God.

  • @stellarknight_user_crystal39ds
    @stellarknight_user_crystal39ds 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So even if I don't believe in God because I am unsure if he exists. And I have done some of those sins yet I have changed since then and have been stick with a nassissist can I be forgiven.

  • @MrCheesywaffles
    @MrCheesywaffles ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amen, all our vain toys and talents are gifts from God. They are for a purpose, for his glory.
    We are nothing, less than ants are compared to us, when compared to him. we are created in his image, but he is our creator.

  • @rebeccawari3242
    @rebeccawari3242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bryan, a Protestant friend, asked me, "Why do you believe in infant baptism ? He said it is not Biblical? And he said that John the Baptist's Baptism alone is Biblical. I told him that John's Baptism is only the symbolic of being humble and accepting God, it's not in a true sense then he said why then you make so many ready-made prayers even our father is an example or a symbolic prayer only. I said Catholic don't pray only ready prayers, all the spontaneous and intercessary prayers come from Catholic only.

    • @CatholicTruthOfficial
      @CatholicTruthOfficial  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your question. We have a video that will answer your question. th-cam.com/video/GDUZAHu6eDM/w-d-xo.html

  • @AssyrioChaldean
    @AssyrioChaldean ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Brian, Great Video! I am a teenage Chaldean Catholic (devout) and I am confused on weather or not to choose the Catholic Church or the Eastern Orthodox, I know that protestantism cant be true because they are divided and came 1500 years later. And I know I have problems with the oriental orthodox church with their miaphisite Christology. I have also considered the Assyrian Church of the East whom are mislabeled as "nestorians". Although I am leaning towards Catholicism this topic is confusing to me, do you recommend any books or writings I should look into? (Btw I have been watching your channel for 2 years now and you have made me defend my catholic faith)

    • @AssyrioChaldean
      @AssyrioChaldean ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@notyouraveragecentrist4536 they arent apostolic thats my problem they are protestants still

    • @AssyrioChaldean
      @AssyrioChaldean ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@notyouraveragecentrist4536 there has to be one church that is Christ made

    • @navinfernandes747
      @navinfernandes747 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Read about the early church fathers... I found it useful.. try to read about the major church councils and their reply to heretics,that will help as well..
      Lastly, pray to mother Mary to intercede for your salvation.. she will lead you into the bosom of her Son and his only bride the catholic church..

    • @CatholicTruthOfficial
      @CatholicTruthOfficial  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      AssyrianCatholic, Thank you so much for your question. Of course, we would recommend the Catholic Church. Here's why...

    • @CatholicTruthOfficial
      @CatholicTruthOfficial  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      1. We love our orthodox brethren, but they separated from the Catholic church in the 11th century. They came back...

  • @marie13579
    @marie13579 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!! Not quite related, however, but I've noticed that you make a lot of videos refuting anti-Catholocism. Could you possibly refute Fred Tarsitano?? He is an Anti-Catholic TH-camr with an entire video series on why he believes Roman Catholicism is wrong. His arguments are convincing and he is leading many astray. A refutation of his series would be a blessing to many. Thank you and God Bless!! 🙏🙏

    • @CatholicTruthOfficial
      @CatholicTruthOfficial  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This video has nothing to do with debunking people. So you can stop your hatred for Bryan. This is an apologetics channel, after all, and if you don't like it, you don't have to be here. We will pray for you, though.

    • @CatholicTruthOfficial
      @CatholicTruthOfficial  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Happy little weirdo. He is on our list of videos to debunk. Thank you for the suggestion.

    • @marie13579
      @marie13579 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CatholicTruthOfficial Awesome, thanks!! I'm excited to see it when it comes out!!

  • @nosuchthing8
    @nosuchthing8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm proud to have watched this show about the evils of pride...oh wait...ieeeehhh

  • @praylove9040
    @praylove9040 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello brother, May I ask what is the right version of the Holy Bible for the catholic?

    • @killianmiller6107
      @killianmiller6107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A Catholic Bible will have a total of 73 books, as opposed to non-Catholic bibles which usually have 66. The 7 books in question are Baruch, Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, and 1+2 Maccabees, so if you see these in a Bible, it’s likely Catholic. As for English translations, one that’s recommended is the RSVCE, and the one read during mass is typically a NAB.

    • @praylove9040
      @praylove9040 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@killianmiller6107 Thank you so much brother🙏❤️ You know, I never read a bible in my life now I’m planning to buy a Holy Bible and I’m interested to read. That’s why I asked what’s the right Holy Bible for the catholic cuz some of my friends says there are some Bible which are non-Catholic Version. Thank you 🙏❤️

    • @killianmiller6107
      @killianmiller6107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you haven’t considered it yet, I think a great way to help your Bible reading is with the “Bible in a Year” podcast with Fr Mike Schmitz, he’ll read a few chapters and explain some things as well. Go at your own pace, I myself am on my third year of Bible in one year, funnily enough!

    • @CatholicTruthOfficial
      @CatholicTruthOfficial  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We would recommend the Revised Standard Version Catholic edition (or version 2 if you dont like old English). Or the Douay Rheims (old English).

  • @ronfraser2267
    @ronfraser2267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🥰🥰❤️💯💯💯

  • @maxwelljacobfreedom
    @maxwelljacobfreedom 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And now it's a holiday

  • @TheTwinHearts
    @TheTwinHearts ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Pride of the Protestants, that will lead them to hell.. Just like Martin Luther, pride.. he thinks he is better than the Pope and Bishop, he doesn't need the church to guide them on the correct path thus creating his own man made churches and doctrines, and ultimately he is in hell now...

    • @evannuh-koo-la4054
      @evannuh-koo-la4054 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We're not supposed to judge people's souls

    • @MrCheesywaffles
      @MrCheesywaffles ปีที่แล้ว +3

      While it doesn't look good for Martin Luther we ought to leave the judging up to the Lord. Pray that the various splinterings from the branch would be healed and rejoin the one true Church.

    • @william31372
      @william31372 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@notyouraveragecentrist4536 yes, God created a hipotetical church. He never meant creating a real one. How could we be so blind for two thousand years? Thanks for the info, bro. Now I am going to create a church inside my head. Wish me luck 👍

    • @CatholicTruthOfficial
      @CatholicTruthOfficial  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Catholic Church that we are part of today is the same Catholic Church that Jesus started 2000 years ago and there is an unbroken line of popes going back 2000 years to Peter himself. People authority goes back to the beginning as well, and you can even see it in church Councils before the Orthodox broke away.

    • @MrCheesywaffles
      @MrCheesywaffles ปีที่แล้ว

      @@notyouraveragecentrist4536 Nothing in scripture according to your interpretation. I wonder are you following the wisdom of the Church fathers, or are you forging your own path?

  • @mrbuck5059
    @mrbuck5059 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vanity and pride. The biggest sin of small town Minnesota women.

  • @marietav7342
    @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best way to conquer our sinful pride (and our other vices) is to pray the Rosary everyday asking for the following graces:
    1) The grace of perfect contrition for our pride
    2) After we asked for the grace of perfect contrition for our pride, we must repent sincerely from our pride and beg God to forgive us.
    3) Ask God for the grace to remove your pride completely and the grace to make you humble
    4) Go to confession to confess your pride and other sins.

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is my formula for combatting my pride (and my other deadly sins). By God's grace, my sinful pride keeps decreasing while my humility keeps increasing. I am not yet freed or purified completely from sinful pride as there are still some sinful pride in my soul but what is important is I keep improving everyday in humility and am hoping I will reach the perfection of humility or I will become 100% humble sooner just like I have attained the perfection of the virtue of chastity or I am already 100% chaste in thought, word and deed or my soul has 0% lust and 100% chastity and this is permanent already in me. Praise be to God!

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      The first step to acquiring humility is to acknowledge our sinful pride. We all have sinful pride (except some people like infants et al) but in varying degrees. Even holy and spiritual people have some sinful pride. But they keep growing in humility and their pride keep decreasing because they keep acknowledging their sinful pride and keep repenting from it and keep confessing their pride.

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very prideful people are those who don't believe they are prideful and they have no sinful pride and they don't acknowledge their pride and they think they are humble. These people won't grow in humility. I keep growing in humility because I keep acknowledging my sinful pride and keep repenting from it. The pride of these people are under mortal sin pride.
      There are 2 kinds of pride:
      1) mortal sin pride = e.g. You don't acknowledge your pride and other sins and don't want to repent of them. This pride will send people to hell.
      2) venial sin pride = e.g. A person does thing to glorify himself not God but later repent of his sinful pride. This pride won't damn us.

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      "I am full of pride". - said St. Maximilian Kolbe sorrowfully and repentantly.

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even if I am already 99% humble and only 1% proud, I will still repent from my 1% pride.

  • @nmesomepeterson4616
    @nmesomepeterson4616 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just wanted to say that you are taking the Lord's name in vain by saying o my Gosh or jeez but i don't know if you were using it as a example of how other people talk

  • @davidperez6120
    @davidperez6120 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pride comes from hell…

  • @superapex2128
    @superapex2128 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's funny you should make a video on pride - I've been thinking a lot about pride these last few days.
    Have you ever looked into semi-pelagianism? No Catholic can truly be pelagian but I've come to think that semi-pelagianism is the hidden heresy of our time.
    Hear me out...
    If you ask most Catholics how they intend to go to Heaven, they'll tell you they will ask for God's Grace whenever they're tempted to stay out of sin.
    But this is a semi-pelagian attitude toward Grace: real Catholicism teaches that Grace is a partipation in God's LIFE - which is to say, Grace will do the work of sanctification for us - if only we let it!
    It is only out of Pride that we take control of this process and make it about us.
    It is OUR glory we seek rather than that of the Holy Spirit...
    Am I making sense?
    I understand there has been an ongoing debate ever since the Reformation over the nature of Grace and how it operates in our souls, the two main camps at odds being the Dominicans and the Jesuits.
    Do you know anything about this debate and what became of it?
    It's a really fascinating subject and it's of the utmost importance for our ultimate salvation: the Sacraments give us Grace but do we really know what Grace is and how it operates?
    My personal theory is that if we really did, we would be MUCH holier.
    I'd love to hear your thoughts and thanks for the timely video!

    • @biblealone9201
      @biblealone9201 ปีที่แล้ว

      . Contrary to Protestant myth and anti-Catholicism, the Catholic Church doesn't teach that one is saved by works apart from preceding and enabling grace, but that faith and works are inseparable, as in James 1 and 2. This heresy of which Catholicism is often charged, was in fact condemned by the Catholic Church at the Second Council of Orange in 529 A.D. It is known as Pelagianism, the view that man could save himself by his own natural efforts, without the necessary supernatural grace from God. A more moderate view, Semi-Pelagianism, was likewise condemned. To continue to accuse the Catholic Church of this heresy suggests a manifest ignorance of the history of theology, as well as the clear Catholic teaching of the Council of Trent (1545-63), available for all to see. Yet the myth is strangely prevalent.😊😊

    • @superapex2128
      @superapex2128 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@biblealone9201 No Catholic can possibly be pelagian as I was saying but semi-pelagianism is a different story...
      At bottom, the question is: is it MAN who saves Man with the help of God; or is it GOD who saves Man with the help of Man?
      There is a fine line between the two and I'm not so sure we always get it right...
      As a matter of fact, I would venture to say that the lines have been blurred in the Catechisms ever since Pope Clement VIII forbade further discussions between Jesuits and Dominicans on this matter.
      Jesuits held that Grace is not in and of itself Efficacious (per se) but only Sufficient; whereas Dominicans held that it was in and of itself Efficacious and that it was due to Man's resistance that it did not complete the work of the Holy Spirit in our souls.
      Reading most Catechisms today one gets the impression that Sufficient grace is rendered Efficacious only through our prayers by an added grace known as 'Actual' grace.
      If Grace is in and of itself Efficacious then all we really need to do is humble ourselves and stop resisting - in other words, say 'Fiat' to the Lord, as Our Blessed Mother did.

    • @biblealone9201
      @biblealone9201 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@superapex2128 sorry that also was condemned

    • @superapex2128
      @superapex2128 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@biblealone9201 What was condemned, by whom and when?

  • @marietav7342
    @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bryan, your video is so good! But you have one mistake. You said, "loving people more than ourselves." You are wrong. The right thing is and according to Jesus and the Bible, "We must love our neighbor as ourselves or equally not more than ourselves."

    • @e7ukr
      @e7ukr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jesus said: "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends" John 15:13
      Self sacrifice is loving others more than ourselves. Brian is absolutely right.

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@e7ukr No, Bryan is NOT absolutely right because Jesus said love your neighbor AS yourself not more than yourself. When you lay down your life for others, it does not mean you love them more than yourself. That bible passage means it is a higher/greater form of love that we give to our neighbor. It does not mean we love them more than ourselves.

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@e7ukr When you make sacrifice for others, it does not mean you love them more than yourself. It means you give a greater form of love to your neighbor. And the highest form of love that you render to your neighbor is when you lay down your life for him.

    • @marietav7342
      @marietav7342 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@e7ukr Even St. Padre Pio said this: (Even though we have to love our neighbor as ourselves), there is an order of love that we give to our neighbor. 1) ourselves 2) family/loved ones 3) enemies/strangers.

    • @e7ukr
      @e7ukr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@marietav7342 What do you mean by the term Love?

  • @SneKyCatholic
    @SneKyCatholic ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it prideful to want the Tridentine mass, and say that that is the best mass for most people?
    I have never said Novus Ordo was invalid, but I did say it was very problematic, and indirectly led to clown masses.
    Vatican 2 was mainly a pastoral council, which means the pastoral parts are not necessarily subject to infallibility. Novus Ordo is a matter of discipline, not of doctrine, so it can be changed. Is it heretical, dare I say prideful, to want the Tridentine mass back for everybody?
    Here is my argument. I love the Pre-Tridentine mass. It’s like having a group of laity worship inside of a monastery. The reason I find spiritual fulfillment in tradition is because the more traditional the mass, the closer it is to Jesus’ time. You can more clearly see God. It’s like experiencing a type of beatific vision on Earth. Instead of being more holy to see more clearly the fullness of God, you experience mass more traditionally to see more clearly the fullness of God.
    The mass is the life of Jesus, not a performance for the laity. I feel like me and you can agree on that.
    Even though Pre-Tridentine mass was revised, it was a necessary revision to include the doctrines of the Council of Trent. I might not be in the right mind or the right authority to say that Novus Ordo is unnecessary, because it was enacted to encourage more laity involvement in the Church. But it didn’t work out the way it should have, nor did some parts of Vatican 2.
    Here is another example. You look at the Council of Lateran V. It opposed erroneous teachings about the soul; reaffirmed the doctrine of indulgences; restated the relationship between popes and ecumenical councils. But on the eve of the Protestant Reformation, it failed to make an authentic and thoroughgoing reform of the Church, inadvertently helping Protestantism.
    Infallibility is a hard subject for me to understand, but I feel like you agree with me.
    Anything the Pope says on faith and doctrine is free from grave error. Any decision the Pope makes on discipline (form of Mass) is valid, but not necessarily infallible. The mass has been revised countless times throughout history. So it depends on what’s best for the Church. And I do have to trust the Magisterium on this.
    But circling back, is it prideful to think all this, and to want it for the Church based on my arguments? Is it prideful if I want what’s best, or at least what I think is best, for the Church?

    • @jeremiahong248
      @jeremiahong248 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @sn1xkyhydra.
      1. I believe the TLM needs to be preserved and celebrated, not restricted.
      2. I adhere to Catholic dogma that The Magisterium is never wrong cos it is divinely instituted and mandated according to Matt 18:18 - whoever you bind / loosen, heaven will bind and loosen.
      3. The bible doesn't differentiate a council being pastoral or otherwise. Everything the council = Magisterium decree is binding on all Catholics. So there is no such thing as a pastoral council.
      4. Even if I grant your point of view on "pastoral council", V2 is not a pastoral council. For further discussion please refer to videos done by Michael Lofton on his channel Reason and Theology. The Pope who convened V2, Pope St John XXIII has said V2 is not a pastoral council. Hence its decisions are binding.
      5. As long as V2 has approved the NO, its valid and licit. The Magisterium has the right to introduce, restrict, replace and change any Mass based on Matt 18:18. Thus the Church had totally replaced the Mass with the Passover liturgy instituted and 1st celebrated by Jesus in Aramaic. This is the same Mass with Passover liturgy which the Early Church Fathers celebrated for 400 years before being replaced by the Latin Mass which evolved into the TLM.
      I personally find it disrespectful to replaced the Mass with Passover liturgy which had been celebrated by Jesus, the Apostles and Early Church Fathers for 400 years in Aramaic, Greek and Hebrew. This is the closest Mass to Jesus's time . The Latin Mass and TLM totally replaced all these. Why were there no protest when this happened?
      Because Catholics obeyed Matt 18:18 and believed "whoever the Church binds, Heaven will bind." The Magisterium then decided. And is obeyed. No rad trads then