I've been averaging anywhere between 3.7 and 4.2 kwh on my Ioniq 6. But yes, long straight roads :D. Maximum regen and lots of cruise control. It does have a pretty wide swing on it's guessometer for range.
For comparison, we did a 900 mile european trip in our 2024 Tesla Model Y RWD in chill mode, 3-up + full luggage + wine/cheese/bread/chocolate to feed an army, at the speed limits in UK, Belgium and France a week ago, and did 4.6 mi/kWh average. MY RWD gave us 260 miles with a full 'tank'. Supercharger network was fantastic EVERYWHERE. For road trips Tesla's are superb and efficiency blows others away.
and....matrix LED lights convert to left hand drive config when you select km/h and nav detects foreign soil coming off the eurotunnel (which we did at 9pm).
@@Jonse70 Was that RWD model or AWD? How are you finding public charging network in UK now? We only use Tesla Superchargers. I work in the Netherlands a lot and public charging excellent there of all types.
Charge and discharge rates on all these batteries are non-linear, and their curves will slightly differ, so intermittent observations will be confusing. No need to charge past about 80%, between 30-80% is the sweet spot, and the battery's performance over time will be better if you do.
Don't forget that most EV charging is done at home, so DC fast charger cost, availablity and reliability is only relevant for road trips, for most people.
The statement that the Hyundai has better efficiency than the Seal because it has a smaller battery, is incorrect. The actual measured efficiency during your test shows the Hyundai was 3.5mi/kwh and the Seal was 3.7mi/kWh.
I would buy the green seal just for looks. Cbb bout efficiency and range. Pricewise its cheaper than petrol any how and we have chargers everywhere. I have used 1 fast charger in a year and mostly charge at the company i work
@@BuckleUpShow thanks. In Australia there are 3 options. Dynamic: base model. Rwd and 61kwh battery. Premium: Rwd and 82.5kwh battery. Performance: AWD 82.5kwh battery. Sounds like you have what we would call “premium “
Why do a range test with 2 fly weights and a super heavyweight? 🙄 The fact that you can't figure out the efficiency figures before leaving the parking lot, baffles me. And I loved the end comment. "If I had to spend my own money, I'd buy the BYD Seal"
We assume you missed the bit where we each swapped cars and drove each others' for 1/3 of the total journey? Where were we unable to figure out the efficiency?
The range remaining that is displayed by the Seal is purely the SOC multiplied by the claimed NEDC range. I find Tesla is similar, but it adjusts the claimed range according to battery degradation, over the life of the car. Neither is an accurate estimate because they don't take actual driving situations into account. I don't have any first hand experience with the Hyundai.
I consider the Hyundai very ugly (outside and inside). The BYD is a copy of the Model 3 (outside), the inside looks OK. Without a doubt I'd go for the Tesla: I like the exterior and interior the most. The simplicity inside: I love it. No stalks: no problem.
The Model 3 does have positive characteristics (as we covered in our other video in this pair, about the cars' ranges) but it is not the most well-rounded car of the three and has some issues, as all cars do.
Very frustrating. I want the Tesla for the software and apps but the BYD for the looks and build quality. Why does the Tesla have to look so boring and cheap. Sigh.
Jasper must have had too much sodium in his breakfast, because he was a VERY salty boi in the Tesla. Cant say I blame him though. Tesla is on their way to having their next car literally just be an ipad with a steering wheel app
Not sure what the issue with the Teslas but there seems to be some bias against it. The Hyundai is soooo ugly looks like a slater bug. Today I’d probably buy the BYD as in Australia it’s $10-20K cheaper than equivalent Tesla but love the Tesla if money was no object
Our main issues with the Tesla are: - Touch screen reliance, taken even further than VW or MG by removing steering wheel stalks - Lacklustre styling inside and out - Oddly judged control weights and feedback (not intuitive or engaging) - Unsupportive seat
car specs? AWD? RWD? curb weight and wheel size effect efficiency the most. the wheels on the Ioniq 6 look 21 ish and tesla m3 20ish. this difference alone makes this comparison useless
A lot of this was covered in the first part of this triple test: th-cam.com/video/DmiZEs3BCRM/w-d-xo.html, but the wheels on the IONIQ 6 were 20 inches and the Tesla MODEL 3 were 18 inches
@@BuckleUpShow sorry i'm not gonna watch your 30 min video and extract all the spec details you' ve hidden in there. but that alone puts the Ioniq 6 on a huge disadvantage and sabotages this comparison. how could you overlook this? i suggest you to redo this test bc this testdrive is totaly flawed in favor for tesla
You can’t get the Hyundai on anything other than 20” wheels in the UK and the Tesla is only available on 18” wheels in non performance models. What exactly would you like us to do about that you massive flute?
@@BuckleUpShow thats bad product policy by hyundai and very unfortunate. but smaller wheels are more efficient thats fact and should be minded. also the AWD weighs 100 kg heavier then the RWD version and eatz up range
It doesn't matter if you run them until empty or not - we were comparing efficiency. Driving the same distance and then comparing energy usage is a perfectly valid test.
Let's have the actual DATA on that? You could search for 3rd party companies actually REPAIRING packs who will indicate it's often NOT "The Battery" (cells) but the "Electronics" which have issues... On *Out of warranty packs* (older than 8 years.... Which is the warranty) . Those experts pull the electronics, repair or replace components, *reseal* (often the problem) and reinstall the pack. . Cheaper than an ICE rebuild on say a .... Ford Ecoboost with a failed Cam belt? (Google it) . Please don't just regurgitate unsubstantiated FUD.
Have my Model 3P since 5 years and 135000kms. 0 repair costs. Only changed brake fluid, AC filter and wipers. Its the cheapest car to run I‘ve ever had so far.
@BuckleUpShow so in this caseyou should charge them to 100% and check how much exactly they spent/took. While in you video you trust numbers on screen. Which as everyone knows LIE.
As can be seen in the video we compared the numbers on screen with our own calculations, to attempt to account for that. We were not doing a full range test from 100% charged to 0%, as that is not how people drive EVs. We were showing what kind of consumption the cars would have in direct comparison with one another, on a journey representative of a reasonable commute.
@@BuckleUpShow you do not trust numbers on screen. charge to 100%, do your test. charge to 100% again. Observe how much of energy exactly car spent. it is so easy. same way as you determine actual gaz consuption.
Had my BYD Seal RWD Space Black for a week now and love it!
Glad you're enjoying it!
Had my Seal AWD for 5 months in shadow green and I love it especially after the last 2 software upgrades
@daverouth you and me too 👍
From what we know, BYD have done some really good gesture updates for the climate control since this was filmed!
@@Jonse70 we are 3 😂
I've been averaging anywhere between 3.7 and 4.2 kwh on my Ioniq 6. But yes, long straight roads :D. Maximum regen and lots of cruise control. It does have a pretty wide swing on it's guessometer for range.
It absolutely does seem to be a guessometer for range 🤣🤣🤣
For comparison, we did a 900 mile european trip in our 2024 Tesla Model Y RWD in chill mode, 3-up + full luggage + wine/cheese/bread/chocolate to feed an army, at the speed limits in UK, Belgium and France a week ago, and did 4.6 mi/kWh average. MY RWD gave us 260 miles with a full 'tank'. Supercharger network was fantastic EVERYWHERE. For road trips Tesla's are superb and efficiency blows others away.
and....matrix LED lights convert to left hand drive config when you select km/h and nav detects foreign soil coming off the eurotunnel (which we did at 9pm).
Cool story
Ev6 the same figures this summer.
@@Jonse70 Was that RWD model or AWD? How are you finding public charging network in UK now? We only use Tesla Superchargers. I work in the Netherlands a lot and public charging excellent there of all types.
Charge and discharge rates on all these batteries are non-linear, and their curves will slightly differ, so intermittent observations will be confusing. No need to charge past about 80%, between 30-80% is the sweet spot, and the battery's performance over time will be better if you do.
Yes, this is currently the case for all EVs
Don't forget that most EV charging is done at home, so DC fast charger cost, availablity and reliability is only relevant for road trips, for most people.
We know this, but for long trips it is an important consideration.
I used fast charging 1x in a year
The statement that the Hyundai has better efficiency than the Seal because it has a smaller battery, is incorrect. The actual measured efficiency during your test shows the Hyundai was 3.5mi/kwh and the Seal was 3.7mi/kWh.
We did the maths, and in our testing the Hyundai was more efficient.
@@BuckleUpShow You need to revise what you said the video then.
Did you actually listen to the bit where we talk through the maths?
@@BuckleUpShow You are right. The presenter was sort of mumbling and rambling on a bit, so I missed it the first time around.
Seal only show last 50km efficiency
Tesla has the best motors and power management software.😊
Yes, this is what our testing showed us.
That's why I bought a tesla as the main car. For a second car, I'll pick the cheapest one
marketing bs
And the worst build quality
Yes, and the lowest price. This doesn't mean it gets a free pass on all its other failings.
Poor Jasper seems like he is the butt of the jokes 😂.
BYD is the one I would go for but in a different colour
He deserves it 😂
The shadow green looks pretty cool on BYD.
Indeed it does. BYD have some good paint options.
The seal is my choice. The Tesla's controls are just stupid, and the Ioniq 6 has a ( riskier) NMC battery
Thanks for watching
Mullosk is just punking us now, in regards to the turn signals
They're completely stupid if you have to indicate mid-turn
I would buy the green seal just for looks. Cbb bout efficiency and range. Pricewise its cheaper than petrol any how and we have chargers everywhere. I have used 1 fast charger in a year and mostly charge at the company i work
Thanks for watching
I live in a city that has over 150 roundabouts (Carmel Indiana USA) & 2 miles from a EA I use 99% of the time. I’m the only 1 there 95% of the time
Do you find the indicators frustrating at roundabouts?
Not sure if you didn’t mention, or if just missed it, but what model Seal is it. The entry level, middle or AWD version?
There are only two trims available in the UK market, the RWD "Design" and the AWD "Excellence". This one is the RWD model - single motor with 313 PS
@@BuckleUpShow thanks. In Australia there are 3 options. Dynamic: base model. Rwd and 61kwh battery. Premium: Rwd and 82.5kwh battery. Performance: AWD 82.5kwh battery. Sounds like you have what we would call “premium “
@DIYMick yes, we don't have the smaller battery model here in the UK ☺️
Thanks. And I’ve really enjoyed your Seal reviews. Entertaining, informative and not just more of the same like other reviews
Thank you! Glad you've found them enjoyable!
Why do a range test with 2 fly weights and a super heavyweight? 🙄
The fact that you can't figure out the efficiency figures before leaving the parking lot, baffles me.
And I loved the end comment.
"If I had to spend my own money, I'd buy the BYD Seal"
We assume you missed the bit where we each swapped cars and drove each others' for 1/3 of the total journey? Where were we unable to figure out the efficiency?
The range remaining that is displayed by the Seal is purely the SOC multiplied by the claimed NEDC range. I find Tesla is similar, but it adjusts the claimed range according to battery degradation, over the life of the car. Neither is an accurate estimate because they don't take actual driving situations into account. I don't have any first hand experience with the Hyundai.
The Tesla seemed incredibly accurate throughout the week of testing, the other two less so.
I consider the Hyundai very ugly (outside and inside). The BYD is a copy of the Model 3 (outside), the inside looks OK. Without a doubt I'd go for the Tesla: I like the exterior and interior the most. The simplicity inside: I love it. No stalks: no problem.
No stalks do in fact = problems
@@BuckleUpShowYou seem very intent on arguing with anyone who says positive things about the Model 3 😂
The Model 3 does have positive characteristics (as we covered in our other video in this pair, about the cars' ranges) but it is not the most well-rounded car of the three and has some issues, as all cars do.
@@BuckleUpShow No stalks ≠ problems for me 🙂
@@jonathanfields4ever I guess the sales figures speak for themselves...
I will chose the tesla any time
Good for you
Me too.
Stupid buttons don’t work anywhere, just a dumb save money bugger safety idea.
Indeed
By far the best looking car there is the tesla best looking car on the road IMO
Go and get your eyes tested
@@BuckleUpShow
Ah! You like the ICE lookalike "bling" designs?
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O.....K
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(sigh)
@rogerstarkey5390 what does that even mean?
@@BuckleUpShow we love bias content outlets!
Lol that's a joke the model 3 is alright but definitely not the best looking car. The model Y is the most ugliest car on the road
Very frustrating. I want the Tesla for the software and apps but the BYD for the looks and build quality. Why does the Tesla have to look so boring and cheap. Sigh.
Because the CEO spends too much time inciting violence on twitter and not enough time on those things
Yeah... Tesla has d best looks
May we politely suggest you go and get your eyes tested?
@@BuckleUpShow dumb.. I can even see ur future 😂🤣
😅😅😅😅😅@@BuckleUpShow
Jasper seems to be a power bottom 😂
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Jasper must have had too much sodium in his breakfast, because he was a VERY salty boi in the Tesla. Cant say I blame him though. Tesla is on their way to having their next car literally just be an ipad with a steering wheel app
Please, Matt. It would be a steering yoke app.
@@BuckleUpShow silly me
Not sure what the issue with the Teslas but there seems to be some bias against it. The Hyundai is soooo ugly looks like a slater bug. Today I’d probably buy the BYD as in Australia it’s $10-20K cheaper than equivalent Tesla but love the Tesla if money was no object
Our main issues with the Tesla are:
- Touch screen reliance, taken even further than VW or MG by removing steering wheel stalks
- Lacklustre styling inside and out
- Oddly judged control weights and feedback (not intuitive or engaging)
- Unsupportive seat
First time veiwer. Seems like a really poor version of TG and car throttle 😂😂😂😂
That makes sense because our budget is £0 so we’re literally very poor. 80 odd thousand people seem to quite like us, though.
car specs? AWD? RWD? curb weight and wheel size effect efficiency the most. the wheels on the Ioniq 6 look 21 ish and tesla m3 20ish. this difference alone makes this comparison useless
A lot of this was covered in the first part of this triple test: th-cam.com/video/DmiZEs3BCRM/w-d-xo.html, but the wheels on the IONIQ 6 were 20 inches and the Tesla MODEL 3 were 18 inches
@@BuckleUpShow
sorry i'm not gonna watch your 30 min video and extract all the spec details you' ve hidden in there. but that alone puts the Ioniq 6 on a huge disadvantage and sabotages this comparison. how could you overlook this? i suggest you to redo this test bc this testdrive is totaly flawed in favor for tesla
You can’t get the Hyundai on anything other than 20” wheels in the UK and the Tesla is only available on 18” wheels in non performance models. What exactly would you like us to do about that you massive flute?
@@BuckleUpShow thats bad product policy by hyundai and very unfortunate. but smaller wheels are more efficient thats fact and should be minded. also the AWD weighs 100 kg heavier then the RWD version and eatz up range
I think the word you’re looking for is ‘sorry’
350 Kw chargers, not kwh
We’re aware of that, probably a slip of the tongue
Tesla without a doubt.
In this test, yes. In our previous video of tests it finished stone-dead last.
To be honest, NO
I've tried them all... and if you add the EV6, there's your winner.
TM3 in a close 3rd
We didn't have an EV6 though
@BuckleUpShow that's why I offered my help, the EV6 wins 😉
Not in a test where it isn't an entrant
Lawwwwl these guys should be reviewing laptops or someshit not cars!
Tell me about it😅
We wouldn't have been able to drive three laptops for 70 miles to test their range though?
Why are they using walkie talkies, when they could just do a group mobile phone call on Bluetooth on the cars?
@jasonsaddington7821 walkie talkies ensures only one person speaks at a time.
By far.... the nicest is the Byd Seal❤....of course in another colour
What colour would you pick?
Ice blue....❤
What is this test lol just charge them full and run until empty.
This is a pointless test
It doesn't matter if you run them until empty or not - we were comparing efficiency. Driving the same distance and then comparing energy usage is a perfectly valid test.
Why is it pointless?
Tesla high significant repair cost and poor resale value
Leasing one, as most people do, puts that fear to bed
................. rule of thumb: never buy a brand new txsla ...................
You are the best car youtube channel!
That’s very kind, but Hagerty are probably better 😅
Tesla is shockingly costly to repair, specially when you have any problem related to the battery.
Let's have the actual DATA on that?
You could search for 3rd party companies actually REPAIRING packs who will indicate it's often NOT "The Battery" (cells) but the "Electronics" which have issues... On *Out of warranty packs* (older than 8 years.... Which is the warranty)
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Those experts pull the electronics, repair or replace components, *reseal* (often the problem) and reinstall the pack.
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Cheaper than an ICE rebuild on say a .... Ford Ecoboost with a failed Cam belt? (Google it)
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Please don't just regurgitate unsubstantiated FUD.
I don’t think that issue is exclusive to Tesla
Have my Model 3P since 5 years and 135000kms. 0 repair costs. Only changed brake fluid, AC filter and wipers. Its the cheapest car to run I‘ve ever had so far.
This test makes no sense
It shows nothing. You should use at least 90% of battery to understand real range.
Most people don’t use 90% of the range to drive to work. The point is it’s a real world test.
@BuckleUpShow so in this caseyou should charge them to 100% and check how much exactly they spent/took. While in you video you trust numbers on screen. Which as everyone knows LIE.
As can be seen in the video we compared the numbers on screen with our own calculations, to attempt to account for that. We were not doing a full range test from 100% charged to 0%, as that is not how people drive EVs. We were showing what kind of consumption the cars would have in direct comparison with one another, on a journey representative of a reasonable commute.
@@BuckleUpShow you do not trust numbers on screen. charge to 100%, do your test. charge to 100% again. Observe how much of energy exactly car spent. it is so easy. same way as you determine actual gaz consuption.
Did you actually bother to read the comment above or listen to what was said at the end of the video?